Re: |Freedom| Suggestions & Complaints

[Khorn]

Maybe it's not the leader but the followers.


People may join thinking this faction is the easiest to run since its about smoking weed and drinking.

[Dug]

The fact is, it's not about smoking weed and drinking.

Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

I don't even know why is drinking and druging your self to lala land even a part of freedom.
Because in freedom base a guy tells you "Come back later! We should roll a joint together!". Is that it?
Well if you all think that way, consider your faction helpless.

The current mindset needs to change.
You guys are fighting for this:
Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

You aren't fighting over who will smoke more weed nor drink more alcohol.

EDIT: And it certainly isn't about who is the bigger badass.

[OBrian]

The fact is, it's not about smoking weed and drinking.

Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

I don't even know why is drinking and druging your self to lala land even a part of freedom.
Because in freedom base a guy tells you "Come back later! We should roll a joint together!". Is that it?
Well if you all think that way, consider your faction helpless.

The current mindset needs to change.
You guys are fighting for this:
Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

You aren't fighting over who will smoke more weed nor drink more alcohol.

EDIT: And it certainly isn't about who is the bigger badass.

1. Dug you are not the Freedom Leader so you have no say in how the faction is run.
2. As far as I know you've never had a Freedomer so your analysis of all we do is "smoke weed and drink" is horribly mistaken. In fact my character is probably the only drug user in Freedom that I know of, this is because of his drug-related history IC. Most Freedomers that I know of don't even use drugs, perhaps rarely smoke pot, or drink. What YOU don't seem to get through your thick skull is that Freedom isn't like DUTY or Military, its not a "LOLCOD LETS SHOOT PPLZ" faction. Freedom is much more about Passive, which is why I believe it to be better as it increases much more in-depth character development. So you say we need to learn "tactics" and how to "shoot" better by "training", well we don't. We can be the source of role-play for the server while you can continue to be the source of e-drama and shooting. Now stop making useless threads/posts proclaiming we need new leaders when you yourself know absolutely nothing about Freedom. You may lead DUTY and be a server admin but that in no way qualifies you to determine whom should lead another faction, especially one that you clearly know so little about.

[lolKieck]

The fact is, it's not about smoking weed and drinking.

Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

I don't even know why is drinking and druging your self to lala land even a part of freedom.
Because in freedom base a guy tells you "Come back later! We should roll a joint together!". Is that it?
Well if you all think that way, consider your faction helpless.

The current mindset needs to change.
You guys are fighting for this:
Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

You aren't fighting over who will smoke more weed nor drink more alcohol.

EDIT: And it certainly isn't about who is the bigger badass.

1. Dug you are not the Freedom Leader so you have no say in how the faction is run.
2. As far as I know you've never had a Freedomer so your analysis of all we do is "smoke weed and drink" is horribly mistaken. In fact my character is probably the only drug user in Freedom that I know of, this is because of his drug-related history IC. Most Freedomers that I know of don't even use drugs, perhaps rarely smoke pot, or drink. What YOU don't seem to get through your thick skull is that Freedom isn't like DUTY or Military, its not a "LOLCOD LETS SHOOT PPLZ" faction. Freedom is much more about Passive, which is why I believe it to be better as it increases much more in-depth character development. So you say we need to learn "tactics" and how to "shoot" better by "training", well we don't. We can be the source of role-play for the server while you can continue to be the source of e-drama and shooting. Now stop making useless threads/posts proclaiming we need new leaders when you yourself know absolutely nothing about Freedom. You may lead DUTY and be a server admin but that in no way qualifies you to determine whom should lead another faction, especially one that you clearly know so little about.

Only one phrase must be used here:
-NO U.
Dug had Freedomer, and lol at your first post, isn't the suggestion post for suggesting and discussing ? You are not in USSR in Stalin's time. Here we can discuss what we want other than something REALLY not on-topic. And he was a Freedomer before you, so ktybb.
EDIT: On a side note, Dug here is longer in HGN than you, so it'd be very possible he was in every faction here.
EDIT NO. 2: Though going "Celtic must be the leader" is not fair for Negative. Give him some time, we gotta see if Freedom is gonna live again.

[Dug]

The fact is, it's not about smoking weed and drinking.

Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

I don't even know why is drinking and druging your self to lala land even a part of freedom.
Because in freedom base a guy tells you "Come back later! We should roll a joint together!". Is that it?
Well if you all think that way, consider your faction helpless.

The current mindset needs to change.
You guys are fighting for this:
Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

You aren't fighting over who will smoke more weed nor drink more alcohol.

EDIT: And it certainly isn't about who is the bigger badass.

1. Dug you are not the Freedom Leader so you have no say in how the faction is run.
2. As far as I know you've never had a Freedomer so your analysis of all we do is "smoke weed and drink" is horribly mistaken. In fact my character is probably the only drug user in Freedom that I know of, this is because of his drug-related history IC. Most Freedomers that I know of don't even use drugs, perhaps rarely smoke pot, or drink. What YOU don't seem to get through your thick skull is that Freedom isn't like DUTY or Military, its not a "LOLCOD LETS SHOOT PPLZ" faction. Freedom is much more about Passive, which is why I believe it to be better as it increases much more in-depth character development. So you say we need to learn "tactics" and how to "shoot" better by "training", well we don't. We can be the source of role-play for the server while you can continue to be the source of e-drama and shooting. Now stop making useless threads/posts proclaiming we need new leaders when you yourself know absolutely nothing about Freedom. You may lead DUTY and be a server admin but that in no way qualifies you to determine whom should lead another faction, especially one that you clearly know so little about.

Lol you just failed hard. I had freedomers. I actually enjoyed the faction until the last wave of new freedomers came and so I left. Last time I was there people were competing who was a bigger badass.
Which made me ultimately leave it.
Get off your high horse please, this is a suggestion thread not a thread where you can insult me as much as you want.
I don't start E-drama, I reply when offended.
Tl;dr can't be bothered with your attitude.
It's the military who rapes you all the time. 90% of duty time is spent in their own sector, training, passiving, telling stories, guarding territory etc. Don't know if your leaders tell you anything but we made a ceasefire.

[Yorty]

It really doesn't matter what it was like and why you left, because that's not Freedom as it is now.

"Last time I was there people were competing who was a bigger badass."
"You aren't fighting over who will smoke more weed nor drink more alcohol."

No, that's not us. At the moment, we really don't do anything at all, being near dead and such.
So we get it, Freedom's weak.  And any of this helps how?

[Dug]

Well, here's what Duty does.
We get all the members we have, get them on, collect a lot of cash.
If it stays that way, 10k every day.

That's tip number one.

Tip number two is. I watched you do attacks.
You don't complain about your enemy abusing not to mention making rediciolus defenses.
If you see something wrong, then fucking report it.
Not to mention, your tactical and strategical way of doing things could improve.

Latest military attack , that was horrible.
Most of you just went rambo where you shouldn't have.
More situational awareness would help you out. More planing, more tactics.
Participating in profitable events is an other good idea (those are rare these days unfortunetly, but I get around doing some of them when I can).

If you see you can't win, then retreat, what's the point in wasting valueable ammo.

Lets face it , most mercs work for the military because they are swiming in cash. However there are other mercenaries willing to accept contracts or perhaps stalkers. You should develop your relations with stalker and mercenary groups if you can. It never hurts to have an ally.

To respond to Kiecks post, I ain't got nothing against Negative. I remember freedom in it's gold age when Celtic was around. That's all I'm trying to say. Hopefully Negative can bring that back.

[Yorty]

Well, here's what Duty does.
We get all the members we have, get them on, collect a lot of cash.
If it stays that way, 10k every day.
Top priority: Get active members. We already know that, not that simple.


Tip number two is. I watched you do attacks.
You don't complain about your enemy abusing not to mention making rediciolus defenses.
If you see something wrong, then fucking report it.
Not to mention, your tactical and strategical way of doing things could improve.
]Not my problem. I tried, I failed. I'm trying to deal with all the specialists, but that's two people inlcuding me. Back to problem number one.

Latest military attack , that was horrible.
Most of you just went rambo where you shouldn't have.
More situational awareness would help you out. More planing, more tactics.
Participating in profitable events is an other good idea (those are rare these days unfortunetly, but I get around doing some of them when I can).
Same as before. Also, wasn't my idea to go rambo. *Cough cough*

If you see you can't win, then retreat, what's the point in wasting valueable ammo.
I lived, I retreated. Now it's hard to get things like this in everyone's head when we have no one to do so. Problem number one.

Lets face it , most mercs work for the military because they are swiming in cash. However there are other mercenaries willing to accept contracts or perhaps stalkers. You should develop your relations with stalker and mercenary groups if you can. It never hurts to have an ally.
We have (had?) a few allies. They're never on. Hard to make more allies when you don't even have an leadership. Problem number one.

[Dug]

I think you have the men and the leadership you just need to do it.

Be strict, enforce your own rules.
Organize it more strictly with weekly chats where everyone can suggest what they want.
I mean that what Duty did until it took off.

It's not just about the leader, or just about the members.
It's about you overall working as a team.

[Yorty]

I think you have the men and the leadership you just need to do it.

Negative's captured. We only have MrTasker, who's bored of SRP as it is.
Have the men?
We have about 3-4 people who come on every day, and everybody else is inactive.
Pruney, never came on. Duran, never came on. RezziK, inactive and I believe leaving. Bran Flakes and MrSmiley? Inactive. Yeah...
No we don't.

[Duranblackraven]

I think you have the men and the leadership you just need to do it.

Negative's captured. We only have MrTasker, who's bored of SRP as it is.
Have the men?
We have about 3-4 people who come on every day, and everybody else is inactive.
Pruney, never came on. Duran, never came on. RezziK, inactive and I believe leaving. Bran Flakes and MrSmiley? Inactive. Yeah...
No we don't.

I haven't been on because I COULDN'T get on. If the constant join/disconnects that would happen for five minutes didn't get that through. I just recently fixed my problem.

[Dug]

I started off with four guys? Rest of the faction was inactive, I had no cash but still held back Freedom attacks. I didn't get shit from Nitro and managed to do it. I think you can too.
Negative being captured that's toff luck. You need to do something about it.

[Tom]

A Lot of our members CAN'T get on cause the fucking map is so incredibly "Crash" prone.

Saying "Well do something about it" Doesn't say shit. unless you have something useful to say STOP POSTING and SF that sort of shit.

[Paintcheck]

I started off with four guys? Rest of the faction was inactive, I had no cash but still held back Freedom attacks. I didn't get shit from Nitro and managed to do it. I think you can too.
Negative being captured that's toff luck. You need to do something about it.

They tried, I would imagine that is what their attack on mili was about. Kind of hard when the guy's captured by a faction with 8 times Freedom's members and 100 times Freedom's GDP.

Celtic doesn't want to lead Freedom, it's not that Freedom hasn't given the option to him, it's that he doesn't want to do it He doesn't play SRP much as it is and having to deal with the constant shit Freedom always has to will not help that cause at all.

[Dug]

Here's a thought. Round up your guys, round up some well equiped stalkers and mercs you can trust. Pay them. Attack.

[Tom]

They did but Mili threw up 391283 defences and hired every merc within a 38129038 mile radius.

Not saying they shouldn't do neither but from what I heard they did it RIGHT before the fight.

[Dug]

They did but Mili threw up 391283 defences and hired every merc within a 38129038 mile radius.

Now that shouldn't happen and should be prevented from asspulling defenses in matter of five seconds.
Ah hell I don't have words for this anymore.

[N3gativezero]

Realise that I've been doing everything I can do adress and fix these problems, but I can't do shit about anything now that the milifags have me captured. When I eventualy do get freed (although a PK seems more likely knowing Doom) I'll resume doing everything I can.

[Tom]

Doom will not be allowed to PK you, not as long as I am SR.

[Legit|Brandon]

Doom will not be allowed to PK you, not as long as I am SR.

Hoora

[OBrian]

The fact is, it's not about smoking weed and drinking.

Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

I don't even know why is drinking and druging your self to lala land even a part of freedom.
Because in freedom base a guy tells you "Come back later! We should roll a joint together!". Is that it?
Well if you all think that way, consider your faction helpless.

The current mindset needs to change.
You guys are fighting for this:
Anarchists and daredevils who declare themselves to be fighting for free access to the Zone
These freedom fighters believe that information about the Zone must not be hidden from humanity, and challenge the state's monopoly over the Zone's secrets and wonders.

You aren't fighting over who will smoke more weed nor drink more alcohol.

EDIT: And it certainly isn't about who is the bigger badass.

1. Dug you are not the Freedom Leader so you have no say in how the faction is run.
2. As far as I know you've never had a Freedomer so your analysis of all we do is "smoke weed and drink" is horribly mistaken. In fact my character is probably the only drug user in Freedom that I know of, this is because of his drug-related history IC. Most Freedomers that I know of don't even use drugs, perhaps rarely smoke pot, or drink. What YOU don't seem to get through your thick skull is that Freedom isn't like DUTY or Military, its not a "LOLCOD LETS SHOOT PPLZ" faction. Freedom is much more about Passive, which is why I believe it to be better as it increases much more in-depth character development. So you say we need to learn "tactics" and how to "shoot" better by "training", well we don't. We can be the source of role-play for the server while you can continue to be the source of e-drama and shooting. Now stop making useless threads/posts proclaiming we need new leaders when you yourself know absolutely nothing about Freedom. You may lead DUTY and be a server admin but that in no way qualifies you to determine whom should lead another faction, especially one that you clearly know so little about.

Lol you just failed hard. I had freedomers. I actually enjoyed the faction until the last wave of new freedomers came and so I left. Last time I was there people were competing who was a bigger badass.
Which made me ultimately leave it.
Get off your high horse please, this is a suggestion thread not a thread where you can insult me as much as you want.
I don't start E-drama, I reply when offended.
Tl;dr can't be bothered with your attitude.
It's the military who rapes you all the time. 90% of duty time is spent in their own sector, training, passiving, telling stories, guarding territory etc. Don't know if your leaders tell you anything but we made a ceasefire.

I didn't fail hard at all, I've had 3 Freedom characters, under Tasker, Negative, Celtic and Tom. You've been in HGN 2 months longer then me, want a fucking cookie? Furthermore you start more e-drama then anyone I know. Simply by posting "Celtic should be leader again" could be taken as offensive and demeaning to the current leadership. Now unless you have anything constructive to say instead of ranting and stroking your e-penis about how you "made DUTY great from the shit Nitro left you" then gtfo.

You talk about in every one of your posts how you're making "suggestions" all you've "suggested" is that we conform to what the fuck you think should be done. Which is whatever you're doing with DUTY. Clearly my last post went right past you. Freedom = DUTY is false. That equation does not compute. Each post you've made is about how you "made DUTY from 4 active players and no money and no help from Nitro". I don't give a flying fuck what you did with DUTY, go stroke your fucking e-penis on another thread and YOU get off your high horse.

[Aresty]

Doom will not be allowed to PK you, not as long as I am SR.

Not much of my business, but what's the specific reason for him to NOT do it ? Hell, you have a guy who keeps Freedom organized, a criminal and a terrorist. Dunno you but those people get killed without thinking twice.


But anyway back on topic, I rember when Freedom was active, so were the other factions.. well excluding Duty. Mili and Freedom didn't fought so much because Doom and Tasker had some sort of ceasefire.
Most of the tiem I spent with Freedom was in passive RP, which I enjoyed. the only problem back then were the constants attack from super guys but hey, it was good.
So from what I'm seeing here that the main problem is getting attacked by other factions, well you could simply agree with them to cut it for awhile ? They are humans afterall.

[Mrtasker]

Stay on topic, for the love of god.

Why does every topic in HGN have to dissolve into pointless flaming and wagging E-dicks. Grow up.

[Killabreu]

Not much of my business, but what's the specific reason for him to NOT do it ? Hell, you have a guy who keeps Freedom organized, a criminal and a terrorist. Dunno you but those people get killed without thinking twice.

wat

[Paintcheck]

Doom will not be allowed to PK you, not as long as I am SR.

Not much of my business, but what's the specific reason for him to NOT do it ? Hell, you have a guy who keeps Freedom organized, a criminal and a terrorist. Dunno you but those people get killed without thinking twice.


But anyway back on topic, I rember when Freedom was active, so were the other factions.. well excluding Duty. Mili and Freedom didn't fought so much because Doom and Tasker had some sort of ceasefire.
Most of the tiem I spent with Freedom was in passive RP, which I enjoyed. the only problem back then were the constants attack from super guys but hey, it was good.
So from what I'm seeing here that the main problem is getting attacked by other factions, well you could simply agree with them to cut it for awhile ? They are humans afterall.

Because if you think about ti for OOC reasons for a second you will realize that it is a horribly retarded idea. For the past week people have been whining about Freedom being inactive and not fighting and now you think it's a good idea to CK one of the only Freedomers left? Jesus christ no wonder this server is so unplayable. Think beyond your own faction when you do shit like that. Will save everyone else a lot of agony and arguing later.