Lately things have not been too great on SRP over the past year things have started to go spiraling out of control to the extent where people have changed it into something it is not. This is S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay, not female infested cyber-whore dm dupe town. Over the next week our administration is going to be working on rewriting the rules, gameplay and aspects, we may go as far as a full faction wipe because right now, not faction is "ok". Somewhere along the line SRP was torn from it's roots which made it fun and enjoyable and some people really took the piss, that's going to stop now.
Most factioners should be ashamed of their commitment to their job in your factions, all have been wasting away due to lack of activity (on the server) and faction roleplay (Patrols, training, raids etc) Sitting in your base and passiving does not count for shit, this isn't half life 2 roleplay where you do jack shit, this is STALKER, a hostile zone in ukraine.
QuoteThis is S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay, not female infested cyber-whore dm dupe town.
Agreed
QuoteSitting in your base and passiving does not count for shit, this isn't half life 2 roleplay where you do jack shit, this is STALKER, a hostile zone in Ukraine
Also agreed. I don't see why the server needs a shut down, though. I think it would just be simpler for the admin team to start cracking down on things like this. Example, people needing a authorization for female characters, and abolishing cybering. Perhaps the faction leaders can help too, by closing their applications until the other factions also gain members, and one is not overpowered. We need change and commitment to our ways.
Quote from: Genesis on 01-07-2010
Also agreed. I don't see why the server needs a shut down, though. I think it would just be simpler for the admin team to start cracking down on things like this. Example, people needing a authorization for female characters, and abolishing cybering. Perhaps the faction leaders can help too, by closing their applications until the other factions also gain members, and one is not overpowered. We need change and commitment to our ways.
Its not as simple as that, there are alot of issues, thus its going to take some time and planning to eradicate them.
The admin team cant concentrate on that AND the server.
Is there any estimated date of when the server will be back up and running?
When it's done.
FUUUU D;
**facepalm**
The reason I as a faction leader encourage ALOT of passive roleplay, it is beacuse this is a roleplay server. Character development is one of my primary concerns, for everyone. Simply beacuse almost every "battle" roleplay is always followed by massive bitching, and this just drains everyones will to play. I've also found in Freedom, that people don't much like patrols or training. So i've listened to them and cut back on it.
On the "Stalker rp has changed" note, in my opinion people have changed and alterd it to what they like, and whats wrong with that? I agree that the cyber-whore dm dupe town needs to get burned down.
If the server gets wiped, thats not going to help peoples activity. May help in the subject of mega powerd bandits robbing every stalker they lay eyes on, and mega wealthy traders sucking up everything. But why can't you just target those players, that would cause alot of bitching, but so would a server wide wipe.
Tasker you accepted Freedom apps left and right :V
Quote from: Mrtasker on 01-07-2010
On the "Stalker rp has changed" note, in my opinion people have changed and alterd it to what they like, and whats wrong with that? I agree that the cyber-whore dm dupe town needs to get burned down.
What do you mean whats wrong with that?
YOU RP TO A LORE, NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
Everything is wrong with that.
There is so much rubbish on the server, and thats why changes are happening.
Quote from: Steel on 01-07-2010
Quote from: Mrtasker on 01-07-2010
On the "Stalker rp has changed" note, in my opinion people have changed and alterd it to what they like, and whats wrong with that? I agree that the cyber-whore dm dupe town needs to get burned down.
What do you mean whats wrong with that?
YOU RP TO A LORE, NOT WHAT YOU WANT.
Everything is wrong with that.
There is so much rubbish on the server, and thats why changes are happening.
When good roleplay is happening Steel, cannon has to take a backseat to ensure that the good roleplay continues and flowers to its best.
And thats the reason there is so much crap.
Like stupid super human characters and everything.
Good RP can happen AROUND the Lore.
Quote from: Steel on 01-07-2010
And thats the reason there is so much crap.
Like stupid super human characters and everything.
Good RP can happen AROUND the Lore.
And better, and more interesting roleplay can happen when you don't take cannon as law. Cannon in my opinion functions as guidelines.
Well it needs to function as the Guidlines, right now it dosent, just you wait, if it was to carry on, fairies and leprechauns will make their way into SRP somehow.
Quote from: Steel on 01-07-2010
Well it needs to function as the Guidlines, right now it dosent, just you wait, if it was to carry on, fairies and leprechauns will make their way into SRP somehow.
I seriously doubt it will get that far, admins can always step in and put a stop to stop this particular roleplay. From what i've seen alot of this uncannon roleplay comes from the admins themselves.
Quote from: Mrtasker on 01-07-2010
Quote from: Steel on 01-07-2010
Well it needs to function as the Guidlines, right now it dosent, just you wait, if it was to carry on, fairies and leprechauns will make their way into SRP somehow.
I seriously doubt it will get that far, admins can always step in and put a stop to stop this particular roleplay. From what i've seen alot of this uncannon roleplay comes from the admins themselves.
Well Tasker, Whats happening is happening.
End.
How about we Just get a Wipe already. . . We need to start over because well. . . Freedom is to Powerfull Duty is dead and Military are underpowered. . . Maybe the wipe would work buuut. . . It would kill the playerbase. If you do a Wipe and promise something in return then players might stay.
Quote from: bto on 01-07-2010
How about we Just get a Wipe already. . . We need to start over because well. . . Freedom is to Powerfull Duty is dead and Military are underpowered. . . Maybe the wipe would work buuut. . . It would kill the playerbase. If you do a Wipe and promise something in return then players might stay.
Sounds all well and good, but what people are going to be complaining about is equipment they earned. Not to mention Rubles.
I have a feeling that since you mentioned DUTY Nitro is going to rampage in.
On a side note, Jackal is right, we even had NINJA it was so bad at one time. Tasker, you are right in the sense that canon should function as a guideline, but we have let people violate that guideline for too long. If people are going to take advantage of our patience and lax attitudes, the administration team will come down hard on you. By hard, I mean Stalin hard, with an iron fist!
Canon is law. (For those who don't understand, this is stalker roleplay and it's serious, not darkrp or lightrp or some other crap. You can't have ninjas in the zone, you can't have ex monolith super soldiers, you can't win every fight)
Admins have the last word.
This was much needed, an overhaul, I look forward to the wipe.
Quote from: Last.Exile on 01-07-2010
Somewhere along the line SRP was torn from it's roots which made it fun and enjoyable and some people really took the piss, that's going to stop now.
So your saying your not going to make it fun anymore?
In my Opinion, the Passive I've seen is fine, the only problem, the Characterbase. Ex- Monoliths and C-Con Agents I can see Canon, but characters that try to pull Flesh characters and Humans that turn into Bloodsuckers, That pisses me off. Why everyone else has to suffer also pisses me off. And a wipe, would yes, probably make everyone leave SRP, including me, after years of work, yeah, You would leave too.
Inb4 flaming my Opinion, Don't, Thank You.
Unfortunately, not everyone is the exactly the same. It's called diversity, welcome to it.
In my opinion, this was sort of needed and sort of not. More and more people is making über super fury killer characters, that can kill a bloodsucker by hitting it in the face and shit.
On the other hand, you don't have to fight every single day in SRP. It sounds like passive RP is forbidden now. But this is just my opinion.
But if the admins think an overhaul is needed, then an overhaul is needed. And overall, Im looking forward to this wipe
Quote from: Nova on 01-07-2010
In my opinion, this was sort of needed and sort of not. More and more people is making über super fury killer characters, that can kill a bloodsucker by hitting it in the face and shit.
On the other hand, you don't have to fight every single day in SRP. It sounds like passive RP is forbidden now. But this is just my opinion.
But if the admins think an overhaul is needed, then an overhaul is needed. And overall, Im looking forward to this wipe
99% OF THESE CHARACTERS ARE ADMIN CHARACTERS WHY DOES NOBODY UNDERSTAND THIS.
Ergergerger, flamewar.
I wouldn't even say that all the admins are doing this.
I'd say a bit of all of us are. Or at least attempting to. Or doing it without knowing.
None of the admins seem to mind it......oooh do I wonder why...
Ive seen two admins with characters like that.
The rest of you are just as bad.
Quit the shit, whats happening is happening.
Quote from: Steel on 01-07-2010
Well it needs to function as the Guidlines, right now it dosent, just you wait, if it was to carry on, fairies and leprechauns will make their way into SRP somehow.
Really? I thought there was a admin team......
One person said, long time ago a great thing.
QuoteThe only people that will rage, are people that are nothing without their "Items".
Quote from: Dug on 01-07-2010
One person said, long time ago a great thing.
QuoteThe only people that will rage, are people that are nothing without their "Items".
Or, a faction that has spent alot of effort and time obtaining said items. And now we have to do it all over again.
You will manage. Just like you did the first time.
Yeah, i'm not arguing that it shouldn't happen. Its going to be a bitch, but it might work out well.
I don't mind the uncannon characters unless they powerplay like idiots, cannon just gets in the way of plot/character development. The Stalker cannon is a base for the Rp, and it has to be built on to improve it.
Quote from: Dug on 01-07-2010
You will manage. Just like you did the first time.
The First time, everyone I knew left :/
Quote from: Pawx on 01-07-2010
Quote from: Dug on 01-07-2010
You will manage. Just like you did the first time.
The First time, everyone I knew left :/
That's going over the top Pawx.
They return sooner or later.
I really don't think everyone's understanding the wipe.
Quote from: OPOver the next week our administration is going to be working on rewriting the rules, gameplay and aspects, we may go as far as a full faction wipe because right now, not faction is "ok".
Faction wipe. Meaning FACTIONS. Unless I'm being too literal here, and Exile meant something other than what he said.
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And on Canon. Yes, it is important. No, it should not be as strictly enforced so that it's exactly like STALKER. If it was, I'd go and play Shadow of Chernobyl. It's probably more fun, too. 100% of the shit that happens on the server is uncanon. Just because something didn't happen in the games is no reason to blow your top off. None of our characters are canon. All the things that happen in the server are UNCANON. Because we're not playing STALKER. Canon should only serve as a guideline, as previously stated. The only canon stuff that needs to happen is TIMELINE, ENVIRONMENT, and MAJOR DETAILS. First two are completely self explanatory. Major details = Factions, weapons, locations, mutants, etcetera. The basic stuff that everyone knows.
This isn't aimed at Dug/Stone, but to canon in general. Argue if you must, but this is bare bones opinion and the only comments I will have on the topic.
The only uncanon bullshit that I completely disagree with so far is female characters being so common.
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This reform NEEDS to happen. STALKER has degenerated, degraded, dissolved over time. There have been a lot of changes that have taken away from the experience that it once was. Female characters as stated before. Last year, ZERO fems existed. ZERO. Factions have slowly spiraled out of control. In the days of old, when Nines lead DUTY, and someone else lead Freedom. There were almost daily conflicts, and faction battles were common. Tensions were high, the risk of being killed was almost certain. STALKER used to be one of the best experiences in RP that I ever had. I don't know exactly what happened, but now it's a little less appealing.
Please dont hit me.
This man has a point. I believe I was talking about the same thing when it comes to canon, others might have misunderstood me.
EDIT: I remember my first days in Duty, every single one of them was tense, you would expect to get killed any minute. People would shoot at you and you would run for your life or you would be shooting at them.
EDIT 2: You would lose things often, and have to buy them over and over again.
Anyone who says "Female characters are the reason the server sucks now" needs to be shot. The reason the server sucks now is because combat is absolutely dreadful and no one is afraid of anything. We need to get that fear back to create the atmosphere again. Right now it's still sort of fun but it definitely is pretty far from the STALKER games.
I agree we don't need need people who have Exo think they doesn't afraid of anything They are in Exos a more HIGH PRIORITY TARGET
Quote from: Paintcheck on 01-07-2010
Anyone who says "Female characters are the reason the server sucks now" needs to be shot. The reason the server sucks now is because combat is absolutely dreadful and no one is afraid of anything. We need to get that fear back to create the atmosphere again. Right now it's still sort of fun but it definitely is pretty far from the STALKER games.
Nobody is blaming Female characters for making the server suck. It's just that most of them are cybering morons, and they take away some authenticness from the game.
Everyone should be scared of mutants. /end.
Your all saying different things.
I think woman should be more afraid, And not some bad ass who doesn't afraid of anything
That should hold true with every character not just the female ones. Everyone should be more afraid in general.
Wait, wait. So what you're saying paint is that there should be gay pervs in SRP, too?
If they are afraid of stuff then yes there should be.
Quote from: RG4ORDR on 01-07-2010
I agree we don't need need people who have Exo think they doesn't afraid of anything They are in Exos a more HIGH PRIORITY TARGET
He speaks the truth, I have experienced this my self. Also those voice coders you all have, they just expose you even further. I don't even know where do you asspull those from.
I asspulled my vo-coder with an admin auth :3
Just take note, Voice Coders are stupid, its just a way of you avoiding things, do not ask me for auth for one, because i will deny you and ensure every other admin does :)
Voice coders are retarded. It's an excuse to get away with doing things because people can't recognize your voice. Also, I don't recall ever seeing vo-coders in STALKER.
Its simply a way to Escape PK for alot of people.
Hopefully this will make Traders useful again, as the rich people don't need anything and the poor people can't buy more than a beer or some ammo.
Also, faction wars are just stupid now but I'm not sure how that's to be tackled as every person who lost wants to blame the other side because they can't take loosing, and the other side gets a bit over-defensive and points the finger back the other way, a 10 min RP battle becomes an hour of bitching.
Quote from: Steel on 02-07-2010
Its simply a way to Escape PK for alot of people.
Exactly. I've had experiences with people where they will have a PK auth on their head, and then they go "Oh, throw on a vo-coder, change my name and I'm good"
Edit 1: Also, I'm kind of looking forward to this wipe now. ISPY is right, traders have become useless because everyone is rich. Also, I have yet to be on the server without at least one person in an exosuit on too. Exosuits are too common, nuff said.
Quote from: Dug on 02-07-2010
Quote from: RG4ORDR on 01-07-2010
I agree we don't need need people who have Exo think they doesn't afraid of anything They are in Exos a more HIGH PRIORITY TARGET
He speaks the truth, I have experienced this my self. Also those voice coders you all have, they just expose you even further. I don't even know where do you asspull those from.
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^ What he said. Also, we've got too many people thinking they are bulletproof. In the games, you can usually take out a Exo with 1 magazine from a AK-74m.
Particularly, we are actually trying to balance the script so it emulates some of things that you guys do in RP, this way, there is no temptation to break the rules.
Most factions agree that they fight once a week, even if they usually can fight more than once a week. With the script and map changes, this will happen naturally, to prevent temptation of a faction fighting another faction far to soon or frequently.
Here is a good one, STM was made to make firefights longer. With the script and SWEP base change, weapons have much more recoil and a little reduced accuracy. This way, players have to take pot shots (shoot, readjust their sight, shoot again). This extends the time that firefights occur. We are accomplishing the same thing STM does, but more naturally, and without players having to make the effort of it happening. It also prevents "sore losers" from switching to STK just to win the fight.
Everyone is just shitting bricks for no reason, and their assumptions are brought upon by their impression that just the rules are being changed. I can assure you there is script and map changes to counterbalance a change in play style.
Everyone is shitting bricks because they don't want to lose their characters and items.
Neither do I however.
Quote from: Ralazo on 02-07-2010
Everyone is shitting bricks because they don't want to lose their characters and items.
Neither do I however.
It's natural really, I usually think of my items and characters as achievements, to see it all go down the drain and get removed, that's why everyone is freaking out.
There isn't going to be a wipe. Just for factions. At least, that's what I see. And nobody's been telling me.
Quote from: PistolKid
I really don't think everyone's understanding the wipe.
Quote from: OPOver the next week our administration is going to be working on rewriting the rules, gameplay and aspects, we may go as far as a full faction wipe because right now, not faction is "ok".
Faction wipe. Meaning FACTIONS. Unless I'm being too literal here, and Exile meant something other than what he said.
hurf durf
One thing everyone needs to realise is, the game isnt all about the items on your characters, its the passive roleplaying. If you passive roleplay, theres no need to have the best gear. But everyone thinks its just an RPG, get the best stuff, then kill everything around, no passive to be seen.
But people who passive RP with best equipment will think they can never lose
That is somewhat of an exaggeration, and most people are using that generalization as ammo in an argument. Read what I said, that is what we are aiming for, logical changes that switch what would usually be done through roleplay, into natural occurrences. Anything else that cannot be done as seamlessly as that is encouraged to be roleplayed. Everyone needs to chill out. Virtually nothing is changing, just how much effort is needed to make something happen.
Remember when blowouts were just an event? See how they are REAL in chernobyl_beta now? No admin had to take their time out to describe what was happening in the event. Nobody had to RP dieing in the blowout, it all just happens naturally. Same result, but it removes the effort of the players making it happen, and stops sore losers from avoiding death.
This philosophy is what is characterizing the overhaul.
hey guys remember when duty was active- Oh ya, that was before nitro took over, see a connection lol
Quote from: Pawx on 02-07-2010
Quote from: Ralazo on 02-07-2010
Everyone is shitting bricks because they don't want to lose their characters and items.
Neither do I however.
It's natural really, I usually think of my items and characters as achievements, to see it all go down the drain and get removed, that's why everyone is freaking out.
At least you see your items in that way. Other people are crying and whining about how they'd become "defenseless" after this overhaul.
Quote from: Welek on 02-07-2010
hey guys remember when duty was active- Oh ya, that was before nitro took over, see a connection lol
Yeah, because it's sensible to blame everything on just one person.
A fresh start would be good for some people but meh i dont think one for now would be suitable :/ Could be for non-canon characters
EXAMPLE:Ex-monolith i mean seriously ?
Fact is guys, you need to realise this is for the best.
Stop trying to resist it, your not going to win.
Steel you have beer for me
Sometimes some trash and good things must be destroyed.. for the greater good
WE CAN AGAIN BEGIN LIFE ON SERVER!
for ressurection my brothers
If there's a wipe, it'll only take a couple weeks for things to start changing back to the way they were, may not be the same but it'll still happen. The Admin Team is gonna need to crack down more on what players are actually doing in the far.. dark.. corner of the map even if they have to temporarily sacrifice roleplay to do so.
Quote from: [INVICTUS] on 02-07-2010
If there's a wipe, it'll only take a couple weeks for things to start changing back to the way they were, may not be the same but it'll still happen. The Admin Team is gonna need to crack down more on what players are actually doing in the far.. dark.. corner of the map even if they have to temporarily sacrifice roleplay to do so.
This isn't about just weeding out troublemakers/minges/trolls/rule-breakers. This is a complete overhaul for RP PERIOD.
Quote from: [INVICTUS] on 02-07-2010
If there's a wipe, it'll only take a couple weeks for things to start changing back to the way they were, may not be the same but it'll still happen. The Admin Team is gonna need to crack down more on what players are actually doing in the far.. dark.. corner of the map even if they have to temporarily sacrifice roleplay to do so.
You talk as if we dont know that, as pistol said, its a complete overhaul.
Quote from: Welshy on 02-07-2010
One thing everyone needs to realise is, the game isnt all about the items on your characters, its the passive roleplaying. If you passive roleplay, theres no need to have the best gear. But everyone thinks its just an RPG, get the best stuff, then kill everything around, no passive to be seen.
Not me. I'd honestly just be happy with a AK-74m. It's a shame people won't Injury RP realistically unless you shoot a fucking nuke at them.
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Quote from: Silence) on 02-07-2010
A fresh start would be good for some people but meh i dont think one for now would be suitable :/ Could be for non-canon characters
EXAMPLE:Ex-monolith i mean seriously ?
Agreed. Once you're a Monolith, theres no going back. It's like AIDS, it stays with you forever. Ex-Monolith is terribly un-canon
Not really Strider and his squad lost connection with monolith
We.Are.Not.In.COP.Time.Line.
Says the one who character is an Ex-Monolith
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Just so you know, Arguing about shit in this forum, Isn't going to change the fact that the server is in overhaul, And isn't changing the fact that Exile's redoing it..
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Right now factions are the main center of the role-play, meaning we could call it, "Manly Lumberjack RP", and it would be just as relevant as S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Role-play, we need to bring back Loner RP.
Ex-Monoliths we're only in CoP because: Spoilers Below
Marked One destroyed the C-Con, and brain scorcher, both of which were needed to maintain control.
There is nothing else i can say or add on because everything that was needed to be said was said and the things that are being done we don't know about yet. He couldn't even wipe a single character but we will find out soon
Quote from: Silence) on 03-07-2010
There is nothing else i can say or add on because everything that was needed to be said was said and the things that are being done we don't know about yet. He couldn't even wipe a single character but we will find out soon
If you have nothing else to say, then why are you posting?
Quote from: Jake on 03-07-2010
Quote from: Silence) on 03-07-2010
There is nothing else i can say or add on because everything that was needed to be said was said and the things that are being done we don't know about yet. He couldn't even wipe a single character but we will find out soon
If you have nothing else to say, then why are you posting?
Would you rather have people disagree for no good reason instead?
I have alot of things to say now but i hope he isn't gonna start to go to troll form like he did in the last thread D:
Quote from: Silence) on 03-07-2010
There is nothing else i can say or add on because everything that was needed to be said was said and the things that are being done we don't know about yet. He couldn't even wipe a single character but we will find out soon
You speak as if the problems could be solved just by deleting a single character. Tell me, do you really know anything about SRPs problems or are you just spewing the opinions of others you heard on the server.
Anyhow, perhaps we should just lock this thread considering "everything that was needed to be said was said."
Quote from: Cutch on 03-07-2010
Quote from: Silence) on 03-07-2010
There is nothing else i can say or add on because everything that was needed to be said was said and the things that are being done we don't know about yet. He couldn't even wipe a single character but we will find out soon
You speak as if the problems could be solved just by deleting a single character. Tell me, do you really know anything about SRPs problems or are you just spewing the opinions of others you heard on the server.
Anyhow, perhaps we should just lock this thread considering "everything that was needed to be said was said."
What i ment by that was that no characters could be deleted at all but i don't know this and that time will tell of what it's fate will be
Quote from: Cutch on 03-07-2010
Quote from: Silence) on 03-07-2010
There is nothing else i can say or add on because everything that was needed to be said was said and the things that are being done we don't know about yet. He couldn't even wipe a single character but we will find out soon
You speak as if the problems could be solved just by deleting a single character. Tell me, do you really know anything about SRPs problems or are you just spewing the opinions of others you heard on the server.
Anyhow, perhaps we should just lock this thread considering "everything that was needed to be said was said."
True, this is starting to get a bit of a "postwhore" - topic, there are good posts but people really want to say stuff like: "O noes wipe, mah character and mah EXO will go poof QQ noes."