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Re: Trader Weapons/Suit Tiers.

Started by Steven :D, 26-09-2010

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26-09-2010 Last Edit: 27-09-2010 by Steven :D
SF Name:
|HGN| Steven
IG Name:
Stefan Devinci
Which tier you are applying for:
Level ONE suits,
Why should you get it ?: Well, here we go.

Reason 1) I'm already roleplaying I have small contacts in the zone and outside of it, since I'm selling weaponry and other supplies already.
Reason 2) I'm also pretty rich at the moment, probably richer then most other people too.

I've been mostly roleplaying with freedom lately, getting them ammo and such. I've also sold a in characterly delivered flash grenade shipment to Goose (I RP'd someone bringing it, after around five minutes (Icly its been more) then I delivered them. Next off I started to buy weaponry, doing deals with Freedom. I've purchased around Five AK74u's now and sold two to various other people, still gaining massive profits. Now I've posted a special request to sell off my three AK74u's and I'm planning on having a special possible "relation" with freedom, selling them weaponry and ammunition at a discount if they agree to my offer. In return I expect protection, while they benefit from my profiting. I've already found a group of buddies too, the stalker Quake, who I also provide discounts to. As well as the rest of the Freedomers.


I Know that its kind of upgrading earlier, and it hasn't been exactly a couple weeks, BUT I believe that the circumstances are quite in order in my opinion (I've also had around a month or two of trader experience on the old script and I already have plenty of RU.) I keep on profiting from other peoples ventures, and im pretty sure I'm doing a damn good job as a trader, helping the economy grow.


Forgot to add this one, You can only choose a tier at the time.

Then i'm applying for suits.


SF Name: |HGN-STSA|Killabreu

IG Name: Eastwood

Which tier you are applying for: Level One Guns

Why should you get it ?: To put it simply, Eastwood is a long-time veteran trader of the Zone, having been here for a good few years. He's gained contacts in the black market, in the government, and with the various factions of the Zone. He's already established a nice deal with Military, dealt with Duty, and have close ties with the Birds of Prey slaving group. He's got a fair deal of cash already, and is itching to get a shipment in from his contacts out of the Zone. He's already had to turn people down due to not having gotten his supplies shipped in yet.

((I know I haven't been a trader for the first two weeks that this new script has been up, but I've been a trader for a long damn time.))

SRP Characters:
Callsign "Faust" - Loner.
Callsign "Eastwood" - American trader.
Roger McMillan - Ex-RIRA. Ex-DUTY. Mercenary.

Ares already said that even though my app was good, he cant accept me because balance comes first and you NEED to be a trader for atleast a couple weeks more.


Ares more people need at least the basic gun/suit tier. Right now Duran is the only source of guns and when he's not on no one can get them OR people like Steven abuse the fact that no one can buy guns and sell AKs for like 4k each (which I guess is capitalism at work but isn't very fair for the players).

Quote from: Paintcheck on 27-09-2010
Ares more people need at least the basic gun/suit tier. Right now Duran is the only source of guns and when he's not on no one can get them OR people like Steven abuse the fact that no one can buy guns and sell AKs for like 4k each (which I guess is capitalism at work but isn't very fair for the players).

Agreed on that.
Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves


Fine. Killabreu and Steven, you are both accepted for weapons tier 1. And this is the only exepction. Next apps must wait atleast 2 weeks.

Oh and reguarding Steven, nothing wrong in it, if people ain't smart to turn up a deal, well, their fault.

28-09-2010 #9 Last Edit: 28-09-2010 by Paintcheck
Not everything should be about making the traders rich as possible at the expense of fucking over the player base because Silver can't make an economy that encourages competition. It's not that players aren't smart enough to turn it down it's that they don't have a choice. If you aren't on when Silver is on making stashes then you aren't getting a gun for free, since the stashes get sucked up in about 5 seconds. No traders except for Duran can sell guns so if you want to defend yourself at all (and you kind of have to since there's a lot of bandits and suckers out there) you need to get a gun which means you are forced to pay Steven's prices if your timezone prohibits you from being on when Duran is. Although now at least Killabreu and Steven will both have that flag so the competition should bring prices to a more reasonable level. At the same time though trader's attitudes shouldn't be "Let's get as rich as we can at the expense of everyone else" because that will kill the server.

But I guess it doesn't really matter to me if people want to keep gouging the player base and ensuring that they leave the server forever.

Traders are traders not for the love of helping humanity, but themselves, by getting rich.
I mean.. let's look in the Real life, people that actually do weapon smuggling and drug dealing, which is a sort of trade. So if you are saying Traders shouldn't think to get rich, then what the hell they should do ? Stay in the selling nothing ? 'Cos you need money to buy guns and then to sell them, but if you don't aim to be rich, how you can do that ?

I agree that being a trader is about earning money. You wanna be the richest, and if you don't well........ then you ain't a creature from this planet for sure. Tho it's indeed a bit lameish that most stalkers can't defend themselfs for shit and they can't pay the expensive guns of the traders.

I guess that's the disadvantage of a fresh start..... It's totally unbalanced.
Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves


Quote from: Aresty on 28-09-2010
Traders are traders not for the love of helping humanity, but themselves, by getting rich.
I mean.. let's look in the Real life, people that actually do weapon smuggling and drug dealing, which is a sort of trade. So if you are saying Traders shouldn't think to get rich, then what the hell they should do ? Stay in the selling nothing ? 'Cos you need money to buy guns and then to sell them, but if you don't aim to be rich, how you can do that ?


Way to completely misinterperet what I am saying. I'll try and make this simpler.

Yes irl you want to make money. This is not irl. This is a GAME, a multiplayer one at that. That means there are a bunch of people who all want to have fun. When you have all the weapons/power/money concentrated amongst very few players that is not fun for the majority of the server. Since Traders are where most of the server's wealth starts at it is their responsibility to make the server fun for other players. What they should not be doing is hording all the money for themselves and taking advantage of the fact that they are the only people who can sell stuff. Because that means being a loner sucks and people won't play. And if people won't play then the server will die even more than it already has and no one will give a flying fuck about how rich you are.

Tl;dr Don't be selfish, greedy assholes. You'll kill the server. (I'm talking about OOC greed, obviously ICly you're chars are probably expected to be greedy but what is frustrating is when traders have 500k and loners can't find work).

You know you don't HAVE to be ICly greedy bastards. Its not said in rules and its not set in stone that all traders are expected to be greedy.  People should start being more individual with there characters instead of bad-ass own the entire blackmarket super stars that plagued the server beforehand. Whenever I get on my trader my prices are usually low and I try and make jobs even though I only have a thousand.


<22:23:04> "Puffles": gofuckyourselfaggot
<22:25:12> You were banned for 5 hours from the server by "Cole" (For trolling)
Never in my life have I ever had to endure 9 yearolds calling me a banana picker, and then get banned afterwards for doing nothing wrong.
Promising Young admins.

Lol'd hard at Steven marking shit up 500% earlier today in Freedom base.

If all you want to do is make e money you'll find yourself bored very quickly.

Alright Gentlemen, can you please stop talking about this here, and let the applicants to apply ? If you have to continue, make another post. Thank you.

01-10-2010 #16 Last Edit: 02-10-2010 by Aresty
SF Name: |HGN-STTO|DuranBlackraven(SW)
IG Name: Imani Karkunov
Which tier you are applying for: Tier 2 weapons.
Why should you get it ?: First off, unlike most of the traders claiming all their 'contacts', I've actually RPed getting every one of mine. First off with Imani taking over Hawk's contacts and business (Yes I know he's back, but I didn't just lose them because of that.), and recently I've worked out deals with the Military, all IC and with Doom, to have my goods brought in safer, guarantee they'll get through the border, and get them in cheaper.

I've been ICly tradeing for months, this trader wipe doesn't erase all that RP. And, unlike a lot of them, I now have ties in the Military to explain how I can get high end shit into the Zone.

I may not be a rich fucker, but I'm not playing on this server to gather e-money. I'm here to RP, and make things better for the other people. Which explains my contacts with the Military, some contacts within Freedom, and anything else I've done. I may not have a stockpile of shit in my inv. to brag about, but I don't overcharge people to the point it's stupid, I'm not OOCly greedy for something that doesn't mean shit, and I'm here to focus on RP, which is NOT true for a lot of people claiming to be a trader for that reason.
Accepted, altought I don't think anybody haves the money to buy a pack of shipment of them weaps. Good luck with that.


10-10-2010 #17 Last Edit: 10-10-2010 by Duranblackraven
SF Name: |HGN| Steven :D
IG Name: Stefan Devinci
Which tier you are applying for: Suits, Tier 2
Why should you get it ?: Another great week of roleplaying, I've tripled the amount of RU I had before this. I'm now part of a faction, The Smilodons. We're all armed. We roleplay helping stalkers and such, and we're organized overall (Just no group page yet, for some reason even though it got accepted). I do many jobs, on and off. Give lower prices to stalkers, charge more to faction members and such. I Believe i'm ready to take on the next tier to introduce some more things to the SRP Economy.

I've rp'd bringing in my shipments from various places. I don't asspull crap, unless I actually have it on my person at the time. I'm gaining funds from other people as well, who are "Sponsoring" me, in exchange for future discounts. I've also received donations (around 2k total so far) to do jobs (Which I am planning out) and give out things for stalkers. ICLY My person, Stefan is a wealthy trader so far. I believe that if I keep on doing these things, I should at least have more potential resources. At the moment, I'm taking "Special Orders" for a new set of outfits for The Smildon co-leader, a special mask that will act as a mask icly. I've earned a contact with the stalker "Quake" for new weaponry and now I'm roleplaying I have a contact outside of the zone, who can help me bring more armor into the zone.


Steven, how about you cool the fuck down and stop thinking I have nothing better to do with my life BUT seek you out. I'm a moderator on this thread, appointed by Exile, so I WILL be looking over anything you post on here, if you like it or not. Me telling you to provide more IC examples of why YOU deserve Tier 2 over other people is not auto-denying you, it's bringing up a point, so you can drop this bullshit you have with me. And actually, since you did as I asked(Save reapping in two weeks, but we'll drop that) I'll give you tier 2, Since you decided to give more IC reason. Was that REALLY that fucking hard to do? Was it REALLY that much more of a chore to pull off then trying to make me even more of a fucking enemy?

tl:tr? ACCEPTED.


14-10-2010 #18 Last Edit: 16-10-2010 by Duranblackraven
SF Name: |HGN| Rebel

IG Name: Estov Kalashnikov

Which tier you are applying for: Weapon Tier 1

Why should you get it?: I believe I should recieve it because i've had my trader for a while now, and i've had a trader beforehand so I think I can handle it. Now, for IC reasons. As mentioned in my back story, Estov had a supplier which he worked with before he came to the zone, however that supplier died. He was working on finding a new one and just happened to finally come by some information. He not long after finding the man, met up with the colonel of the Ukraine army and struck a deal allowing him to freely come in and out. He left he zone for a week in search of the supplier and found him. He then came to a deal that he would buy small fire arms and minor rifles and have them shipped to the zone. Any legal matters were out of the way since the deal with the colonel.

ACCEPTED. Go get your tier.


<22:23:04> "Puffles": gofuckyourselfaggot
<22:25:12> You were banned for 5 hours from the server by "Cole" (For trolling)
Never in my life have I ever had to endure 9 yearolds calling me a banana picker, and then get banned afterwards for doing nothing wrong.
Promising Young admins.

16-10-2010 #19 Last Edit: 16-10-2010 by Duranblackraven
SF Name: |HGN| Steven :D

IG Name: Stefan Devinci

Which tier you are applying for: Tier 3 Suits

Why should you get it?: This week, Stefan has gained a large sum of rubles and weaponry to supply his fellow S.T.T. Members. Now arming them with some decent suits. Stefan seeks to expand his range, since he already has some people interested in suits (Quake interested in a Sunrise, etc. One S.T.T. Member wanting a mercenary suit and such) Stefan already has considerable amounts of contacts and resources at his disposal. His faction, The Smildons has also grown larger and larger. Stefan already has alot of interest in the S.T.T. Faction and plans to arm them with even better equipment, and ultimately profit from all of his investments he's made.

Basically. I've gained alot of stuff this week. 2 AKm's, 2 AKS74u's, a Viper 5, 2 Makarovs and other equipment (Mainly rubles). I concentrate on selling suits (And those cheaper ones) to stalkers if they are interested. Now that Exile has implemented even more suits to the menu (Leather jacket, Reinforced leather jacket and Reinforced variants to other armors as well) I provide stalkers with equipment for free, occasionally but not that often. I buy at lower prices and sell at higher prices like others as well. I'm working to help the economy too, in some ways that are profitable somehow in my eyes. I also plan on selling higher up equipment to those mercenarys employed by various other factions (Military, etc).


Denied. Allow some others to gain some tier ranks, and wait a bit longer then a week.


17-10-2010 #20 Last Edit: 17-10-2010 by Duranblackraven
SF Name: ComradeBritish
IG Name: 'Goblin'
Which tier you are applying for: Weapons, Tier 1
Why should you get it ?:
I have had my trader for a while now, around three weeks, and I feel I should recieve tier 1 guns, in some cases need to. IC reasons, my man 'Goblin' used to work with a large group outside the zone, as stated in his backstory, the group mainly operated in Tula, an area where a LARGE amount of guns are produced and the group has access to. After talking with 'Stone' (A character of Dugs) he talked to his contacts about bringing me guns into the zone. That is basically it. . .

ACCEPTED. Go bother Dug for tier 1 weps and have fun!
Suspiciously cheesy man sighted on east pier at 9pm.

17-10-2010 #21 Last Edit: 21-10-2010 by Turkey
SF Name: Turkey
IG Name: Pelican
Which tier you are applying for: Tier 2 Weapons
Why should you get it ?: I've been a trader for quite some time. I was a veteran back when strelok  holmes had control over the traders. I did a large amount of trading and I think I am quite experienced in doing so.

Denied. You just get put back on the roster without a full app if you were on there before the wipe. As tiers were initiated after the script change, there's no reason to let you jump a whole tier just because. Reapp in a week for a tier 1 slot.

18-10-2010 #22 Last Edit: 18-10-2010 by Duranblackraven
SF Name: |HGN-STSA|Killabreu
IG Name: Eastwood
Which tier you are applying for: Tier 1 Suits
Why should you get it ?: Eastwood has been a veteran of the Zone as bandit, loner, and trader. He knows  more than enough people to secure some coats and basic mercenary kit. I mean, it's a tactical vest (probably kevlar), gas mask, and a body suit. You'd be hard-pressed to not find those things in the Zone. Ever.

Accepted. Give yourself tier 1 suits since I know that's what you'll do.

SRP Characters:
Callsign "Faust" - Loner.
Callsign "Eastwood" - American trader.
Roger McMillan - Ex-RIRA. Ex-DUTY. Mercenary.

21-10-2010 #23 Last Edit: 24-10-2010 by Paintcheck
SF Name: Turkey
IG Name: Pelican
Which tier you are applying for: Tier 1 Weapons
Why should you get it ?: I've been a trader for quite some time. I was a veteran back when strelok  holmes had control over the traders. I did a large amount of trading and I think I am quite experienced in doing so.

Fucking shit app but you've been a trader for a while so go nuts.

22-10-2010 #24 Last Edit: 25-10-2010 by Duranblackraven
SF Name: |HGN| alex4576
IG Name: Boris 'The Bard' Chesnovica
Which tier you are applying for: Level one suits/weapons
Why should you get it ?: I should get teir one suits/weapons because with all the new people coming into the server they need someone to supply them with some sort of defence against mutants/bandits and so on. Also not many traders are active when i'm on except for Paintcheck on his trader Hawk and I lose a lot of business because I can only sell ammo and basic supplies. Half the people I get either try to sell me guns I cant afford or buy guns I dont have. Basicaly I lose money either way and honestly it's like a kick to the nuts.

Yeah sure why not we don't have any Tier 1 traders

Tier 1 suits approved