Nitro.

[Steel]

And this Ladies and Gentlemen, is why i dont play SRP anymore, sort it out.
Super fucking soldiers and what not.
Commissar, Lead by example please.

[Szenti]

So, That means, I can go up, and make a character with the name of "Albert Wesker" and put in title: Fast|SuperStrong|MinigunOnBack nope? Hell no.

And if these are true, and since the people's 72% said its true, then seriously get back of powergaming, if you do it players will get bored of getting owned by powergame, losing everything they worked for, and others. Make your characters die(PK) in a blowout and everything will be fixed, or something. I'm still not going to install GMOD, I think... If things like this are happening... :sigh:

[Commissar Nitro]

Here's the deal:

Nitro did not get admin out of the blue, he had it for a while and then due to health issues had to give it up. That's why he has admin.

As for Halo's auths I also find it absolutely retarded and would really like to know who originally authed an unkillable supersoldier with impenetrable armor and reflexes that move at the speed of light.

One: She is not unkillable she is just as easy to wound as anyone elles.

Two: She has about the same level of training as a green beret/Spetnaz/SAS solider.

Three: Relexes are the same as anyone ellse she just stacks her manuvers, AKA starts to do somthing elles while finishing her original move.

Four: She dosent move at the speed of light, My "/me Halo moves insanly fast as she stands pushing off the wall", Was to itarate the imediate obediance to Blazes comand.

Five: Her armour is moulded Steel Kevlar comprising of a chestplate, Upper backguard, Forarm bracers, Thigh plates, Knee pads and elbow pads, Most of her body is exposed so explain to me how i have a reputaion for unstopable armour? The only shot i was in /me range of was a SINGLE .45 round to the chest whitch i responded to before Stleck even arived.

[Crimzon_Reaper]

FFS if everyone else is civil when trying to argue their point Crimzon I expect you to be able to do it as well. Editted to remove your flame bait. -Paintcheck.

Pistol > Rifle in terms of weight and maneuverability.
When a .50 caliber projectile strikes some air-tanks on your back, I highly doubt your rifle would be pointing anywhere near your previously intended target.

You weren't powergamed, you put yourself in a very awkward and exploitable position and subsequently paid the full price, failing harder than Communism.

You decided to ignore my /me a bit, and from what I know, you didn't not /me raising your rifle.
Therefore, Schelk should not have been able to fire anything close to accurately towards Halo.

Now, another point. You left the server to avoid roleplay, Nargotah. That is unacceptable, and I find it highly amusing that you brought this topic to the forums, incriminating yourself for infringing a rather major rule. That, and the one count of powergaming.


If you want to keep bitching, take it to SF.

[Dug]

Ex Monolith Assassin?
Steel Kevlar armor?
Insane Speed?

FULL STOP

There's no such thing.
Not to my knowledge, in the zone.
Insane speed is for bloodsuckers and some other mutants.

Zone = full of criminals
Criminals = not super soldiers

You are probably a guy who got here by misfortune if you play the stalker games most of them want to get out of the zone.

Duty, Freedomers, Monolith, everyone is basically a criminal from the outside world or a guy who wanted to get into the zone(they are considered criminals by the Military). Now see here that's mostly Ukranian/Russian people if we are going to stick to the canon.

I'd also like to see those auths. I do not like powergame it ruins overall experience on the server for the players and they will spread a bad word about it.

Now to make this really clear, I'm not on anyone's side. I'm just being civil and I'm open for discussion.

[Zstan]

Ex Monolith Assassin?

Wrong. He's actually a "Ex Mololith Asasin".

[Paintcheck]

Here's the deal:

Nitro did not get admin out of the blue, he had it for a while and then due to health issues had to give it up. That's why he has admin.

As for Halo's auths I also find it absolutely retarded and would really like to know who originally authed an unkillable supersoldier with impenetrable armor and reflexes that move at the speed of light.

One: She is not unkillable she is just as easy to wound as anyone elles.

Two: She has about the same level of training as a green beret/Spetnaz/SAS solider.

Three: Relexes are the same as anyone else she just stacks her manuvers, AKA starts to do somthing elles while finishing her original move.

Four: She dosent move at the speed of light, My "/me Halo moves insanly fast as she stands pushing off the wall", Was to itarate the imediate obediance to Blazes comand.

Five: Her armour is moulded Steel Kevlar comprising of a chestplate, Upper backguard, Forarm bracers, Thigh plates, Knee pads and elbow pads, Most of her body is exposed so explain to me how i have a reputaion for unstopable armour? The only shot i was in /me range of was a SINGLE .45 round to the chest whitch i responded to before Stleck even arived.

We argued about this already on Saturday with your "Nikki's 5.56 bullets ping off of Halo's armor" from about 3 feet away.

Second stacking moves is fine since I do that too when I type stuff the problem is when your "stacking" prevents other people from doing anything ie on Saturday again when me, Tom and Tyr were about to charge upstairs before another grenade hit us and you said "No you can't do that I have another /me I'm about to do" which was another grenade hitting us to prevent us from going upstairs. That is...sketchy in my mind. What's to stop me from just waltzing into military land and saying "No you can't shoot me yet I'm still doing an action" with a "/me fires towards every sentry and every person who comes to investigate"?

Training level the same as a Green beret/Spetsnaz ok that's fine...I guess. I still find it extremely improbable that a single person would be able to walk into Freedom's bar as it is teeming with at least 6 people (2 of whom were in exos) and shoot all of them while simultaneously making our bullets bounce off of your armor and basically saying "No you can't shoot me you'll hit a teammate" or "/me throws 80 bazillion more flashbangs at you all so you can't shoot back at all" every time someone tries to fight back. Is it possible based on training? Well maybe but it also isn't any fun for the 10+ other people who have to be on the losing side. It comes down to a question of ethics vs. legality. Is what you do legal in terms of the server rules? Perhaps (although I know I am personally dying to see who authed some of this shit). Does that means you should do it? The answer to that is a resounding "NO". It's chasing other players away because they don't want to deal with this.

Over TS Nitro you made it clear you thought our playerbase ount sucked and TnB was going to sap it all unless things got better. Well you're not making things better with Halo and Lorgic. I would bench them or passive with them more or do something with them that doesn't involve crushing other players. Because they're going to stop coming back.

[Zstan]

Instead of whining and bitching about something: Why don't we fucking DO SOMETHING?

Solution: BAN FUCKTARD POWERGAMING CHARACTERS.

Result: NO MORE WHINING AND BITCHING.

[Turkey]

Instead of whining and bitching about something: Why don't we fucking DO SOMETHING?

Solution: BAN FUCKTARD POWERGAMING CHARACTERS.

Result: NO MORE WHINING AND BITCHING.

Mmmm.. I don't think a ban is necessary. Why don't you just say "Stop it!"? The two magic words. Power gaming:"STOP IT" Complaining"Stop IT!"
There is a large amount of stress in this conversation, I suggest a shower.
Think about this, Breathe in and out. Consider Role Playing for fun, not to win.
Dying from someone is not fun, Making a scene is even worse, Trust me i know.

And this isn't even considering the fact that he kicked Cutch and PKed all of the new Duty recruits, simply because he wasn't the one to do it himself. He can use all the fancy verbage and doublespeak he wants, but in the end that was the obvious reason. Thanks to him being the "leader" of Duty, Duty is damned near completely inactive. He basically forces his Duty members not to RP by forcing them to stay in base 24/7. He doesn't seem to understand that there is a rather large difference between real life and RP. Yeah, in real life it would definitely be an order to have some people guarding the base, but even then you would send out patrols for intel. But hey, you might say, he does allow that. Yes, he allows it if you have three people, and if you ask him personally. I say personally because there's basically nobody else they can go to.
Now, i'm sure he'll say something about how "WE COULD PATROL IF WE HAD SOME FUCKING MEMBERS OH MY GOOOOOOOOOD" but that's just a fucking joke. He had members, but since he couldn't take credit for it, he decided to get rid of them all.  

I beg to differ. Duty has had about 2 to 5 members on for the past week. We have done patrols, We built a new gate, I don't complain about staying in the base. We did a patrol yesterday and it didn't last long, But it was fun none the less.

[Radek]

Meh this text is useless, it's so out of context it's Hilarius.
And like i said, in the text. None of you did anything to stop Halo and you were all busy shooting at me.. No wait just shooting me. Well except You Nargotah you were busy removing your helmet.

[Dug]

No ban Q.Q
Like he said, stop.

[Khorn]

I have a question about 'Halo'.

First, how long did they train for? Where did they train? And who taught them? (Spetsnaz/Green Beret/Other?)

I read that it was like 1 year of training? And if it was in the zone, there is no way you would have found time or a place to train to become as good as a Spetsnaz.

I know that for a fact that it would take at minimum, atleast 2 years.

[Commissar Nitro]

Halo was created by Frost and Blaze and "Charron" at the end of 2008 begining of 2009 And the places was in the Monolith strongholds, And when you consider that she was brainwashed the training took considrably less time due to the irelivance of mental conditioning against pain hunger stress in the usual manner. 2 weeks brainwashing RP, Followed by 2 mounths of training before she went active (Training resumed during that time), a month later Monolith was disbanded, bout two three mounths later i end up in hospital and resigned from HGN admin team and HGN as a whole.

Now over the last mounth in a bit iv restored a few old chars and made some new ones, Halo is an old char and is barley used, When she is used pepole rember her, No one rembers when im on Jasper as nothing major happens.

And i find it pathetic that allmost every post in this thread was made by mebers who were not only NOT online THEY had NOTHING to do with the RP the isusse has been raised about. You are using this thread as an  excuse to rage at me and try and get my Admin removed for your own reasons, The situation whitch began with a missed /me due to talk ranges has been exasterbated out of all resnobal proportion.

I am a cunt i make no bones about it, I dont care what you think of me. But do not use a miss understanding as an excuse to have a go at me. Its pathetic, underhanded, Malichiouse, Small minded and ignorant behaviour.

[Zstan]

I've had about enough of this fucking bullshit. When I said ban I meant no more fucking god characters, as in you dont say "no mur power characters lol" YOU FUCKING ENFORCE IT.

And i find it pathetic that allmost every post in this thread was made by mebers who were not only NOT online THEY had NOTHING to do with the RP the isusse has been raised about. You are using this thread as an  excuse to rage at me and try and get my Admin removed for your own reasons,

I'm not raging at you. I've had enough of everyone's bitching about fucking power gaming characters.

Its pathetic, underhanded, Malichiouse, Small minded and ignorant behaviour.

Right back at you mister monolith assassin.

[Khorn]

Halo was created by Frost and Blaze and "Charron" at the end of 2008 begining of 2009 And the places was in the Monolith strongholds, And when you consider that she was brainwashed the training took considrably less time due to the irelivance of mental conditioning against pain hunger stress in the usual manner. 2 weeks brainwashing RP, Followed by 2 mounths of training before she went active (Training resumed during that time), a month later Monolith was disbanded, bout two three mounths later i end up in hospital and resigned from HGN admin team and HGN as a whole.

Now normally I would say a monolith Spetsnaz would be sillly, but what I hear when it comes to monolith are kind of uncanon like.
Monolith are supposed to be basically a hivemind. What skills you had before being monolithized are somewhat kept.

But I say Halo's background is going out on a bit of a stretch. But if it was authorized, I guess it must be okay.

[Crimzon_Reaper]

So many kids, and I can see one of our administrators definitely went to Specsavers.

"FFS if everyone else is civil when trying to argue their point Crimzon I expect you to be able to do it as well. Editted to remove your flame bait. -Paintcheck."

^ AH HAH. HAH. HAH. I'm really sure no one else is flame-baiting . . . Cause I see them outright flaming. Don't selectively moderate posts, moderate them all if you're that bothered about flaming.

More to the point. Do any of you lot realize that Monolith actually reprogram Stalkers, Military and ANYONE they can get their hands on to be guardians, soldiers, snipers and yes, ASSASSINS. GASP.

-Strelok- is a Monolith Assassin. Only Monolith fucked up and had him sent to assassinate himself.

Halo is a completely legit character, and all the little raging kiddies in here need to take a firm grasp on reality and hold that bitch tight. How things play out are highly circumstantial, I personally don't stand for shitty roleplay standards, which to be honest, is what we get in-server sometimes by a good few folks.

[Turkey]

So many kids, and I can see one of our administrators definitely went to Specsavers.

"FFS if everyone else is civil when trying to argue their point Crimzon I expect you to be able to do it as well. Editted to remove your flame bait. -Paintcheck."

^ AH HAH. HAH. HAH. I'm really sure no one else is flame-baiting . . . Cause I see them outright flaming. Don't selectively moderate posts, moderate them all if you're that bothered about flaming.

More to the point. Do any of you lot realize that Monolith actually reprogram Stalkers, Military and ANYONE they can get their hands on to be guardians, soldiers, snipers and yes, ASSASSINS. GASP.

-Strelok- is a Monolith Assassin. Only Monolith fucked up and had him sent to assassinate himself.

Halo is a completely legit character, and all the little raging kiddies in here need to take a firm grasp on reality and hold that bitch tight. How things play out are highly circumstantial, I personally don't stand for shitty roleplay standards, which to be honest, is what we get in-server sometimes by a good few folks.

Never put better.

[Paintcheck]

Removed a whole bunch of useless posts. Sorry you're butthurt Crimzon but your first line didn't contribute anything anyway and people are up in arms enough. You're an admin so you're held to a higher standard. Not like I editted out your content.

This actually started out fairly productively but has since devolved into people bitching and moaning at each other for disagreeing with one another (and for being Zstan apparently....that came out of left field). I think most of the important stuff that this would produce has already been said so I think I'm going to lock this.

It would be really nice if both sides would realize that each has valid points but since this is the internet that seems unlikely. So here's the deal: Stop bitching about this, it's done, it happened, there's no way to change it, let's look towards the future. If we have more issues then we can revisit this then although perhaps in the admin forum so we don't have to deal with a bunch of people who have no idea what is going on throwing in their random flaming 2 cents.  

If people have more to say I guess PM me and I'll reopen it but I think this is just going to get worse and worse at this rate.