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Started by Lucidius, 12-03-2010

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Now, I know there's experimental FTL drives, I know that we have space ships, but what we don't know, is weapon and armor tech.

Sure, the world was blown up but in the span of 260+ years, we manage to make Spaceships and shit, and your telling me that we're still using weapons made and designed in 1998-?

Can you bring some enlightment on this section here? I mean, from 1890-1980, look at the VAST advancements in weapon tech, that's 90 years. We're talking about 260+ years and yort telling me that they havn't bothered to advance any further? I mean, some weapon designs ARE reliable, but you have to keep in mind, that these things need to function in very dusty, sometimes lowgrab-vaccum enviroments, and they still keep IMI Jerico's?

Armor is always going to be improving, and with armor improvement, new ways to counter that in weapons will be needed, thusly weapons are going to need to be re-designed around that. Look at Dragonskin (just an example), now imagine Dragonskin after hundreds of years of refinement and additional tech research. It'de be thousands of times better, and most handbun calibres would be completely defunct.

Another thing you need to keep in mind, Technology is EXPONENTIAL, discoveries in technology/science only lead to a bunch more discoveries, which only lead to more.

/rant.

Please clarify.
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The thing is that Desertia is too far away for the best tech to arrive, therefore, 21th century tech is mostly the best tech available, but you do see special weaponry around. Like the experimental Mark 24 Particle Splitter, used by high class XEM Officers only.
There is high tech around, just hard to get.

He does make a good point, even if it is far our many of the people there whether they're miners or with CE or whatever other faction would have some more high tech shit then 21st century technology.

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IMI Jerico
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12-03-2010 #4 Last Edit: 12-03-2010 by Lucidius
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IMI Jerico
Someone read my character sheet.

I read everyone's, and yeah I HAD posted on there saying something along the lines of 'I don't think they have those in 23xx", but I figured that 1) that was a bit rude and 2) I read Sniper's profiles and he listed real world guns on both of them so i'de make a thread discussing it as to avoid in-inentional personal violation and to make it more general.

Srsly though, manufacturing would be so much easier for more advanced or just different designs then pre-2000 crap :/. Or even simpler designs.

Honestly this needs serious addressing because from reading character profile it already sounds like Paintcheck's 'ass pulled weapons and gear' thread. Shall I quote?"
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Quote from: Lucidius on 12-03-2010
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IMI Jerico
Someone read my character sheet.

I read everyone's, and yeah I HAD posted on there saying something along the lines of 'I don't think they have those in 23xx", but I figured that 1) that was a bit rude and 2) I read Sniper's profiles and he listed real world guns on both of them so i'de make a thread discussing it as to avoid in-inentional personal violation and to make it more general.

Srsly though, manufacturing would be so much easier for more advanced or just different designs then pre-2000 crap :/. Or even simpler designs.

Honestly this needs serious addressing because from reading character profile it already sounds like Paintcheck's 'ass pulled weapons and gear' thread. Shall I quote?"
I had the same issue when I first tried to make a desertia character. Wondering what all the 21st century guns were doing, but go with what they give you, so I chose my favorite 21st century gun.

By the way. My Diary Entry states that customs took my guns, just so it would be a fair start with no weapons.

Indesul is a little fort made out of debris and destroyed building..lol.

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Excuse me, get the fuck out of here.

Back on topic, There's probably a shortage on tech SWEP's anyways.

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I don't really understand how that is post whoring, you saying that is basically post whoring. I was just saying that my trade post is a shit-hole.

If you think I'm post whoring..Look at Dark Angel.

I sort of thought the tech would be reminiscent of like what you see in say Borderlands. Familiar designs but obviously more...sci fi-y. Or like the guns in Firefly. Plus god particle lasers and personal energy shields are stupid and powergame-y. Suspend your disbelief and just go with it.

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I sort of thought the tech would be reminiscent of like what you see in say Borderlands. Familiar designs but obviously more...sci fi-y.

This is mostly what I thought aswell. Obviously your not gonna have SUPER LAZAR BEEM RAFFLES out in the middle of ass fuck no where, but by now the 'low production' weapons wouldn't be 20th century.

I know the whole 'familierity' is nice, but it's 23xx, throw that shit out the window or atleast keep it near by, not in the same room.

Look at BattleField 2142, in fact I think that'de make a semi-decent basis in terms of semi-futrey but old tech for weapons.
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I was just going to use guns similar to what is found in Borderlands because they are kewl and they have awesome revolvers.

The guns in Borderlands seem like they would be an almost perfect model type that could be found on Desertia. Deserted colony in the middle of no-where? Seems pretty similar to me and those guns are 21st centuryish but they're home-made from parts around the planet.

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There are futuristic guns, but some dumbass loner isn't gonna be walking around with one. Only the XEM will usually be seen with futursitic guns, or other high-class factions.


Missing the whole point of the thread.

Low Production value shit that's semi-futuristic, would be more abundent then fucking 20th century shit.
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Quote from: Lucidius on 13-03-2010
Low Production value shit that's semi-futuristic, would be more abundent then fucking 20th century shit.
Then if you're willing to model that, by all means do.
But in the mean time, we made due with what we had and could get.

And Borderlands-esque weapons really would be pretty perfect...2142 weapons as well. But since we can't find those in a usable amount, we had to pass them up.

It should be noted that certain vehicles factions employ, like tanks and planes, are highly futuristic. Mainly because they're cobbled together and loaded with Advanced Duplicator, but still...

As creator of the SWEPs (though not the one who put the models together), I included a few futuristic weapons, like the cloaking devices and the favorite, the Particle splitter. I tried adding a "pulse" sound to the weapons once, but it didn't sound good, and failed to catch on.

I suppose if someone dug up some futuristic weapon models, I could slap some things together. Simple pulse weapons (AR2-style), or maybe even a laser. SENT-based "energy pulse" weapons are doable, but impractical and would probably lag.

13-03-2010 #18 Last Edit: 13-03-2010 by Cobra
Should Parent those airplanes with the Parent tool this time around Star :P Remember those times with all those laggy air planes in dog fights oh lord. (So about tech will we be seeing that good old XEM suit or Nanosuit back? And you could just use an assortment of weapon mods sense there would be a diversity of advance weapons. District nine stuff and some battlefield 2142 weapons out there.)

XEMs will just be suits I believe that sit in offices doing paperwork.

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13-03-2010 #20 Last Edit: 13-03-2010 by Cobra
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XEMs will just be suits I believe that sit in offices doing paperwork.
I know but they had ODST looking armor that said XEM backwards.. A few pieces could be floating around.. Anyways many more models for armor are floating around these days. I just like having lot's of choices :\ hope I am not the only one with that stance..

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Cobra, they also had "cocks" written on their knife sheaths.

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Cobra, they also had "cocks" written on their knife sheaths.
I know that :P.

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