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The Shaken

Started by Joemoma, 02-03-2010

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Thanks radek :P your the best :D you get my "Fair Admin" award :3

Quote from: Joemoma on 03-03-2010
Thanks radek :P your the best :D you get my "Fair Admin" award :3
I have nothing against you or your faction it's just to..generic.

QuoteWelek, we're NOT fucking MUTANTS for fuck sake, our only mutant died a few centuries ago and the only one even possible of reaching, for the sake of RP, will not. it is a disease, not a mutation. http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/factions/the-shaken-5902/msg66197/#msg66197 rethink your answer, ask questions, be supportive, and be LESS of an ass when replying, please and thank you.
(Willy Wonka pun)
And Good DAY to you Sir!

No Support.

I don't care if it's dead it would never happen.

Welek doesn't count 'cause he just says -support to all groups.

Thanks :P

I fail to see how everything I posted was "non constructive". Sorry you don't like what I have to say but the reason you post in the "Pending" forum is so people can give their OPINION on the group.

If you want me to go in depth more I will. "We are not mutants, we are diseased" is basically tomato tomato (and I just realized that saying doesn't work in text). Your "disease"/"mutation" seems to be overwhelmingly beneficial with few downsides. Especially things like "Wounds heal faster and stronger" That SCREAMS powergame to me.

And don't get mad at me for wanting to see a coherent back story. Rebuking that argument by saying "Oh we were rushed so it doesn't matter" is exactly what I don't want to hear. It's better to wait and have all your ducks in a row before applying for something this important than to half ass an early attempt and garner a lot of negative feeling.

As for arguing "Oh well the Military have like 20 bazillion ranks so we can have that many too', the military is a MAJOR faction which will always have probably 5x the number of players in it than this group will. Part of this argument isn't that important in SRP but I come from TSRP where each rank needed it's own job coded in and it was a hassle so whenever I see someone with 99 billion ranks applying for something I tend to get wary. I guess that isn't the most important flaw I can see though, you're right.

"allow our soldiers to help both sides so RP attackers/defenders can improve their chances by hiring" That's called being a merc, join Black Rain or make this a mercenary group. Do not fall into the trap of making a "super epic group that does everything" because you will not have any luck. I saw this all the time on TSRP. You cannot be a jack of all trades and expect to be good at all of them, especially when there are factions already dedicated to most aspects of what you are trying to do. Keep your purpose simple and specific and work to be good at that. For example, Black Rain is a merc group and only a merc group and they are probably one of the longest lived and best run factions on this server. The Military concentrates on being soldiers, not taking slaves or finding artifacts, and because of that, they are effective. Having a laundry list of stuff you want to do guarantees failure, especially when you are competing against groups that are specialized to do some of things you want to take part in.

tl;dr No.

This is the creator of the actual group, and this is what i have to say:

I am extremely,fully sorry for making this up, i had and still barely have an idea of the entire "STALKER Universe" and i am sincerely sorry for making this group that much like Monolith, and the Disease, Necroparia, will not take ANY part of SRP groups anymore, i swear. But with the 'OK' of the administrators who have posed, i would stil like to work on the group, i will completely transform it from its current stage, there wont be any mutants, cults, the ranks i would LIKE to stay the same, but i assure you things will change.

Please reply to this message if it seems like ive apologized enough for making this huge mistake. And to be completely honest, this thing was more of an passing fancy (always wanted to say that) than a real Idea. So please, dont think worse of me because i failed at the idea, and I really am sorry.
I see your logic, and substitute it with my own.

You can do whatever you want with your group, Paint can't do shit about it.

But if you make it overpowered and ridiculous (Mutants etc..) it will be shot down.

And I'm in a much better mood since Killdead got banned.

03-03-2010 #34 Last Edit: 03-03-2010 by Paintcheck
Airborne don't worry about it. You can still make the group more or less whatever you want but by posting it here you are inviting the players of the server to post their opinions on it and not all of those opinions are necessarily positive. Although frankly I am glad that you are going to move it more toward Canon.

And Zstan, maybe I can't "Do shit about it" in regards to preventing it from happening (which I wouldn't do out of spite anyway, only if I saw bad things from it, if you note most of my problems with the group were stuff that looked like it was setting itself up for failure, not due to any member RP or anything) but I can still -support all I want and that does carry some weight.

04-03-2010 #35 Last Edit: 04-03-2010 by Joemoma
Air, there's been worse ideas, and at least we tried to contribute to the community, people usually don't even bother to do what we just did, we'll be back with a better one, we'll just take this and put it in notepad or something, but we need to know what's wrong with it to fix it, please keep commenting, we'll keep editing :P and maybe this will get some supports :P

Quote from: Paintcheck on 03-03-2010
For example, Black Rain is a merc group and only a merc group and they are probably one of the longest lived and best run Minor factions on this server.

Fixed it for you.
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Quote from: Assassinator on 03-03-2010
Welek doesn't count 'cause he just says -support to all groups.

This is a lie.

Than say +support to my idea, oh wait, you didn't >_<, nor did you on any other idea X|

oh and, we're not a cult, a group, we don't do anything like a cult other than all have the same disease and marks

Today, Was tragic Shaken Group...Really..

I decided to rob a group of Stalkers, some of them being from The Shaken, It turned into a RDM Blood bath, And one even godmodded and ragged in .//

Really pathetic guys, I expected better...   -Support

Welek minge-looted my AKM and won't give it back because he's a douchebag >:( Welek, you are a jackass, and believe me, i would give back the other guy's stuff if i had it, but don't minge loot man, it's not the answer.

Sounds like good roleplay.
BUT there are holes and problems in your story. (Like what others have said)

Quote from: Joemoma on 06-03-2010
Welek minge-looted my AKM and won't give it back because he's a douchebag >:( Welek, you are a jackass, and believe me, i would give back the other guy's stuff if i had it, but don't minge loot man, it's not the answer.

Cool story bro, it's minge looting when your all dead for killing Zarrick.

Besides you all died, I can loot whatever I want.

This forum is down for remodeling (XD) please don't post.

This is the leader of The Shaken, I have got special permission to post:

Many things are wrong with this, very understandable, mostly because I was very Vague on things and APPARENTLY joemama decided to fill in some fields.

I did not make pros and cons, that was Joemama, and There are no Pros to the disease, Only cons, other than some good excuses to get me out of tight situations.

I will be COMPLETELY redoing this, plus the backstory will be completely transformed. it is in no way a Crazy Cult, yeah, thats how bad this is explaining it.

So i will be doing stuff to it later on, Everything will be changed.
I see your logic, and substitute it with my own.

I had to fill stuff in >_< or people complained, but yes, what he said ^

Quote3. You will die if you try to leave as the parasite will shut down your major organs if the leader commands it.

That doesn't even make sense. How can the Leader command a parasite to kill you, and it's not a disease if it's a parasite, and how does leaving the zone kill you.

09-03-2010 #48 Last Edit: 09-03-2010 by Joemoma
Who said leaving the zone killed you? and the leader has telepathic communication to the Parasite that grows out of the bacteria (Don't go all medical degree on me, it's a parasite/bacteria, the meat chunk heals you, but no one says BS to that)(A double whammy eh?) (We give out makarovs, don't need rooks coming and going for our guns ya know?)

oh and i asked to -NOT- post anymore, we're fucking working on it >_< it'll be better by the end, and layton, read for edits before you go posting plz :P

Quote from: Joemoma on 09-03-2010
Who said leaving the zone killed you? and the leader has telepathic communication to the Parasite that grows out of the bacteria (Don't go all medical degree on me, it's a parasite/bacteria, the meat chunk heals you, but no one says BS to that)(A double whammy eh?) (We give out makarovs, don't need rooks coming and going for our guns ya know?)

oh and i asked to -NOT- post anymore, we're fucking working on it >_< it'll be better by the end, and layton, read for edits before you go posting plz :P
I did read it, and you hadn't changed it so I posted how much a shitty idea it is.