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So you've been around for 200 years, the time zone for SRP has only been around for about 10-20 years..Also MONOLITH
No support.
Quote from: Zstan on 02-03-2010
So you've been around for 200 years, the time zone for SRP has only been around for about 10-20 years..Also MONOLITH
No support.
I fixed that, needed more detail on it, it began outside the zone, but as a place where The Shaken can take root and not be pushed back into hiding they found "The Zone" and quickly took root, god you guys are fast on the reply :P, and think a bit more, doesn't have to be zone-created to be in the zone :D, if that was true, why the hell are we here? we weren't created here.
Second of all, we do not brainwash, we are friendly toward everyone who deserves it.
NO there's already too much supernatural shit going on (vampiric players, players that are rabid, etc). The Zone is not some mythical haven for leprechauns and dragons and the Easter Bunny. Yes there are mutants but this is pushing it.
That and you have like 30 ranks. For me to even THINK about POSSIBLY maybe giving a NEUTRAL outlook you'd need to make a back story that doesn't look like it took 10 minutes.
NO
There are no illnesses that would ever make you into a mutant, I'm tired of all this half mutant character bullshit.
Quote from: Welek on 02-03-2010
NO
There are no illnesses that would ever make you into a mutant, I'm tired of all this half mutant character bullshit.
Welek for once has hit the nail on the head. You do NOT turn into a mutant. The zone has been around for FIVE years, five. Why do i say that? Because it was created in 2006 and the timeline we're in is 2011.
Quote from: Strelok Holmes on 02-03-2010
Welek for once has hit the nail on the head. You do NOT turn into a mutant. The zone has been around for FIVE years, five. Why do i say that? Because it was created in 2006 and the timeline we're in is 2011.
Why thank you Strelok. :3
Guys, you should be nicer. It's a newer player contributing, what have you done in the past month?
/me facepalms
WHEN DID I SAY WE WERE MUTANTS? we have a disease which has been around for 200 years but has lived in the shadows until now >:| read the damn back story completely! it only makes us weaker if anything, we cough blood, spit... disgusting stuff from our throats, the only one even slightly helped by this is our leader who has a mutation of the virus, this shit's thought out, you guys just can't take it all in. Thank you assasinator.
AGAIN: The only true "Mutant" form is the Necrophel, which is unreachable as the only one has died. We follow his teachings, maybe one day, in a long time, our leader will reach that form, but it will take a very, very long time. Ask questions, don't be an ass.
(willy wonka quote)
And Good DAY to you SIR!
Quote from: Paintcheck on 02-03-2010
NO there's already too much supernatural shit going on (vampiric players, players that are rabid, etc). The Zone is not some mythical haven for leprechauns and dragons and the Easter Bunny. Yes there are mutants but this is pushing it.
That and you have like 30 ranks. For me to even THINK about POSSIBLY maybe giving a NEUTRAL outlook you'd need to make a back story that doesn't look like it took 10 minutes.
For fuck sake, we have 10 ranks, the military has the same amount if not MORE, and we have a disease, and we WILL have a longer, more in-depth backstory later today, but our leader is not on, so he can't write a longer one, just keep checking back. i really must say though, your a pessimist, look at all the good stuff inside the group, let me LIST the good things about it.
1. Many ranks
2. In-Depth roleplay will be created
3. It's original
4. it's not mono, like you guys think, no brainwash, you join on your own detail
5. the back story is going to be lengthened today
6. It includes the outer areas of "The Zone" into roleplay
Bad things:
1. back sto- oh wait it's going to be re-written later... so N/A
2. N/A
3. N/A
4. N/A
5. N/A
6. N/A
So what's the score...
Good: 6
Bad: 1
I think this is a good idea if you ask me...
oh and all the "NO!"s i've seen are un-constructive and have no real reason other than to flame, re-do your answers, and be more, oh, i don't know, constructive?
And Welek your arguements are in the "Fail" class as they have nothing conclusive supporting your no's other than obvious things that will be fixed, you have lost this arguement Welek, good day, don't let the page hit you on the ass on the way out
Why are you triple posting? And the ranks are really like... A Monolith wannabe group...
I like that triple post.
Quote from: Joemoma on 03-03-2010
I think this is a good idea if you ask me...
I hope you think it's a good idea, the last thing people want are your bad ideas.
It seems to me you're some sort of crazy cult? Regarding the disease, how was it kept under the wraps for 200 years? Overall the whole idea seems a tad confusing. Also are you only allowed to pick one of those classes? I believe it's much better for RP when you allow people to choose a specialization of their own.
I've never even seen the monolith list X| and i triple posted cuz they all press on a different issue, and i slimmed the ranks down to 9, only 6 are attainable unless you are hand-picked. And yes, you choose your class, the disease was kept "Under Wraps" because we stayed in areas where no one went, and if they did, they went "missing" if they uncovered us. Most of the important stuff was just edited into the backstory. And yeah, we're a cult in simple form.
NO!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg2u_De8j5o#normal)
-Support
Tell me how this will support STALKER RP And I will change my answer.
This will support SRP by increasing the versatility of groups you can join and will allow other groups someone who can help them with military endeavors, say freedom needs 5 more men, and we have them, they can buy them (cheap) until the attack is over. We will only help those who we see reasonable to help. We will also allow STALKERs another safe place so if they screwed up in the past, we are safe and will protect STALKERs from anyone and everyone. Anyone who pulls a gun in our base will have 3 more at their own head.
SO: we allow STALKERs a safe place, allow our soldiers to help both sides so RP attackers/defenders can improve their chances by hiring sure-fire ppl to work for them with no chance of lying or deceiving. Finally we allow STALKERs yet another group to join so they have an even larger choice!
Pardon if my skills of reading are failing, but.
It's very plausable, started by disease, which COULD be right, considering there are probably quite afew diseases that we have not uncovered in real life, or maybe some that we don't know exist, only to be found in future...
Said diseases could have anything in store, this being one of the diseases, causing the effects it comes with...
And from the first infection, other infected contacts have been made, eventually forming this?
Seems all fine and good to me.
So your saying...Its a Merc/Religion/Military Group?
Essentially, yes, but mainly Religous, we follow the order of The Shaken. We lend our troops to friends and sell them to the Neutral. We are NOT mercenaries though, we do things for reasons, we don't go looking for missions all day.
+/- Support
We will see how this turn out.
Story edited to be a bit better
again our leader was in a rush, we'll have an epic-tale for you guys later
QuoteThis will support SRP by increasing the versatility of groups you can join and will allow other groups someone who can help them with military endeavors,
You mean like the other 50 groups?
Nope, it's joinable for the first part then we stop recruiting for a while, and we only help when either paid or we want to help, we are a peaceful group ourselves unless we need to be aggressive, or our allies need us.
Have you like..not read the other faction threads? "Lul we are peaceful but we will kill you if you are bad, and we will only help if you pay us a ridiculous amount of money"
Lol it feels like msot people that are so negative have just read the first two posts and saw that Paint said no then everyone went with that. I have to agree that the back story is a little shaky but i think there might be something to this if the people in it rp the right way. so +support, but if you guys prove me wrong i'll personaly rip your brains out.
Thanks radek :P your the best :D you get my "Fair Admin" award :3
Quote from: Joemoma on 03-03-2010
Thanks radek :P your the best :D you get my "Fair Admin" award :3
I have nothing against you or your faction it's just to..generic.
QuoteWelek, we're NOT fucking MUTANTS for fuck sake, our only mutant died a few centuries ago and the only one even possible of reaching, for the sake of RP, will not. it is a disease, not a mutation. http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/factions/the-shaken-5902/msg66197/#msg66197 (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/factions/the-shaken-5902/msg66197/#msg66197) rethink your answer, ask questions, be supportive, and be LESS of an ass when replying, please and thank you.
(Willy Wonka pun)
And Good DAY to you Sir!
No Support.
I don't care if it's dead it would never happen.
Welek doesn't count 'cause he just says -support to all groups.
Thanks :P
I fail to see how everything I posted was "non constructive". Sorry you don't like what I have to say but the reason you post in the "Pending" forum is so people can give their OPINION on the group.
If you want me to go in depth more I will. "We are not mutants, we are diseased" is basically tomato tomato (and I just realized that saying doesn't work in text). Your "disease"/"mutation" seems to be overwhelmingly beneficial with few downsides. Especially things like "Wounds heal faster and stronger" That SCREAMS powergame to me.
And don't get mad at me for wanting to see a coherent back story. Rebuking that argument by saying "Oh we were rushed so it doesn't matter" is exactly what I don't want to hear. It's better to wait and have all your ducks in a row before applying for something this important than to half ass an early attempt and garner a lot of negative feeling.
As for arguing "Oh well the Military have like 20 bazillion ranks so we can have that many too', the military is a MAJOR faction which will always have probably 5x the number of players in it than this group will. Part of this argument isn't that important in SRP but I come from TSRP where each rank needed it's own job coded in and it was a hassle so whenever I see someone with 99 billion ranks applying for something I tend to get wary. I guess that isn't the most important flaw I can see though, you're right.
"allow our soldiers to help both sides so RP attackers/defenders can improve their chances by hiring" That's called being a merc, join Black Rain or make this a mercenary group. Do not fall into the trap of making a "super epic group that does everything" because you will not have any luck. I saw this all the time on TSRP. You cannot be a jack of all trades and expect to be good at all of them, especially when there are factions already dedicated to most aspects of what you are trying to do. Keep your purpose simple and specific and work to be good at that. For example, Black Rain is a merc group and only a merc group and they are probably one of the longest lived and best run factions on this server. The Military concentrates on being soldiers, not taking slaves or finding artifacts, and because of that, they are effective. Having a laundry list of stuff you want to do guarantees failure, especially when you are competing against groups that are specialized to do some of things you want to take part in.
tl;dr No.
This is the creator of the actual group, and this is what i have to say:
I am extremely,fully sorry for making this up, i had and still barely have an idea of the entire "STALKER Universe" and i am sincerely sorry for making this group that much like Monolith, and the Disease, Necroparia, will not take ANY part of SRP groups anymore, i swear. But with the 'OK' of the administrators who have posed, i would stil like to work on the group, i will completely transform it from its current stage, there wont be any mutants, cults, the ranks i would LIKE to stay the same, but i assure you things will change.
Please reply to this message if it seems like ive apologized enough for making this huge mistake. And to be completely honest, this thing was more of an passing fancy (always wanted to say that) than a real Idea. So please, dont think worse of me because i failed at the idea, and I really am sorry.
You can do whatever you want with your group, Paint can't do shit about it.
But if you make it overpowered and ridiculous (Mutants etc..) it will be shot down.
And I'm in a much better mood since Killdead got banned.
Airborne don't worry about it. You can still make the group more or less whatever you want but by posting it here you are inviting the players of the server to post their opinions on it and not all of those opinions are necessarily positive. Although frankly I am glad that you are going to move it more toward Canon.
And Zstan, maybe I can't "Do shit about it" in regards to preventing it from happening (which I wouldn't do out of spite anyway, only if I saw bad things from it, if you note most of my problems with the group were stuff that looked like it was setting itself up for failure, not due to any member RP or anything) but I can still -support all I want and that does carry some weight.
Air, there's been worse ideas, and at least we tried to contribute to the community, people usually don't even bother to do what we just did, we'll be back with a better one, we'll just take this and put it in notepad or something, but we need to know what's wrong with it to fix it, please keep commenting, we'll keep editing :P and maybe this will get some supports :P
Quote from: Paintcheck on 03-03-2010
For example, Black Rain is a merc group and only a merc group and they are probably one of the longest lived and best run Minor factions on this server.
Fixed it for you.
Quote from: Assassinator on 03-03-2010
Welek doesn't count 'cause he just says -support to all groups.
This is a lie.
Than say +support to my idea, oh wait, you didn't >_<, nor did you on any other idea X|
oh and, we're not a cult, a group, we don't do anything like a cult other than all have the same disease and marks
Today, Was tragic Shaken Group...Really..
I decided to rob a group of Stalkers, some of them being from The Shaken, It turned into a RDM Blood bath, And one even godmodded and ragged in .//
Really pathetic guys, I expected better... -Support
Welek minge-looted my AKM and won't give it back because he's a douchebag >:( Welek, you are a jackass, and believe me, i would give back the other guy's stuff if i had it, but don't minge loot man, it's not the answer.
Sounds like good roleplay.
BUT there are holes and problems in your story. (Like what others have said)
Quote from: Joemoma on 06-03-2010
Welek minge-looted my AKM and won't give it back because he's a douchebag >:( Welek, you are a jackass, and believe me, i would give back the other guy's stuff if i had it, but don't minge loot man, it's not the answer.
Cool story bro, it's minge looting when your all dead for killing Zarrick.
Besides you all died, I can loot whatever I want.
This forum is down for remodeling (XD) please don't post.
This is the leader of The Shaken, I have got special permission to post:
Many things are wrong with this, very understandable, mostly because I was very Vague on things and APPARENTLY joemama decided to fill in some fields.
I did not make pros and cons, that was Joemama, and There are no Pros to the disease, Only cons, other than some good excuses to get me out of tight situations.
I will be COMPLETELY redoing this, plus the backstory will be completely transformed. it is in no way a Crazy Cult, yeah, thats how bad this is explaining it.
So i will be doing stuff to it later on, Everything will be changed.
I had to fill stuff in >_< or people complained, but yes, what he said ^
Quote3. You will die if you try to leave as the parasite will shut down your major organs if the leader commands it.
That doesn't even make sense. How can the Leader command a parasite to kill you, and it's not a disease if it's a parasite, and how does leaving the zone kill you.
Who said leaving the zone killed you? and the leader has telepathic communication to the Parasite that grows out of the bacteria (Don't go all medical degree on me, it's a parasite/bacteria, the meat chunk heals you, but no one says BS to that)(A double whammy eh?) (We give out makarovs, don't need rooks coming and going for our guns ya know?)
oh and i asked to -NOT- post anymore, we're fucking working on it >_< it'll be better by the end, and layton, read for edits before you go posting plz :P
Quote from: Joemoma on 09-03-2010
Who said leaving the zone killed you? and the leader has telepathic communication to the Parasite that grows out of the bacteria (Don't go all medical degree on me, it's a parasite/bacteria, the meat chunk heals you, but no one says BS to that)(A double whammy eh?) (We give out makarovs, don't need rooks coming and going for our guns ya know?)
oh and i asked to -NOT- post anymore, we're fucking working on it >_< it'll be better by the end, and layton, read for edits before you go posting plz :P
I did read it, and you hadn't changed it so I posted how much a shitty idea it is.
Quote from: Layton on 09-03-2010
Quote3. You will die if you try to leave as the parasite will shut down your major organs if the leader commands it.
That doesn't even make sense. How can the Leader command a parasite to kill you, and it's not a disease if it's a parasite, and how does leaving the zone kill you.
There are disease's with parasites inside your body. But yes, the leader commanding it to be done is a bit strange, would be more realistic, if say, a sort of computer chip? Something like that. Fix the problems and it will be a really good faction if its RP'd correctly.
-Support
Taylor, I think you, Airborne, and whoever else is leading the group should talk together to change the Disease's Pros and Cons, and a how you accept people and discipline people once their in it.
-Support This all confusing and wierd, not to mention kills a bit of canon, I DUN LIEK IT!
There's a NEW VERSION >_< i asked an admin to lock this thread, and i requested ppl to NOT post, FFS, do you guys read?
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