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The Situation - A cover-all announcement for 1.8 and 1.9

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16-09-2011 #25
Quote from: Alltrusion on 16-09-2011
:) Ok ok... Announcement was awesome, love the Indoor factions idea (They're will definitely have conflict so don't worry) BUT... I think it is unfair how my friend Firenz0 was BANNED by Quin Tasin for creating a faction and not knowing that Ermor was going to be the only civilization. (Firenz0 didn't specifie to me if it was a perma or temporary ban, or if he was even told for how long). Would it be reasonable to unban him soon? :o

I didn't ban Firenz?  I just saw him on before the 1.8 update hit.
"If you don't expect gratitude, you'll seldom be dissapointed."

16-09-2011 #26
He told me when he tried to connect to the server (before1.8 )he got the Banned from server message... and he thought it would have been you because you dislike when people make factions.
16-09-2011 #27
Quote from: Feerman on 16-09-2011
Quote from: RanmaChan on 14-09-2011
Its about time you made an announcement, or said anything at all, but better late than never I suppose.  I was starting to get tired of people building towns, and responding to me with "no u" when I told them it was official policy to stop.

You asked for Ermor to be the main hub, THE city, and I did that.  Maybe not how you would have liked, but oh well.  I am just glad that we won't need to change maps.

It looks like we can now have an actual "Merchant Guild" faction, "Sellafield Industries" faction, and many more... Maybe an actual council of mages faction thingy....?  :P

An Ermorian Military/ Imperial Military faction too :3

Exactly what I was thinking!
(We'd make sure that the guild wars in-city aren't to out of control)
16-09-2011 #28
Quote from: Alltrusion on 16-09-2011
He told me when he tried to connect to the server (before1.8 )he got the Banned from server message... and he thought it would have been you because you dislike when people make factions.

No?  I don't recall banning him, at all.
"If you don't expect gratitude, you'll seldom be dissapointed."

16-09-2011 #29
Quote from: RanmaChan on 16-09-2011
Quote from: Alltrusion on 16-09-2011
He told me when he tried to connect to the server (before1.8 )he got the Banned from server message... and he thought it would have been you because you dislike when people make factions.

No?  I don't recall banning him, at all.

Well thats strange... Anyway he might need a pardon
16-09-2011 #30 Last Edit: 16-09-2011 by RanmaChan
I think he might have just received a message about the server (due to the 1.8 update) and overreacted.

Edit:  I will still ask Chief and Port if they banned him.
"If you don't expect gratitude, you'll seldom be dissapointed."

16-09-2011 #31
No he showed me with his lap top... I had a visual of it saying "Banned from server!"
But STILL to me it doesn't matter if you just temp banned him as long as he can get back on.
16-09-2011 #32
I took the time to downgrade, but no one was on :'(
16-09-2011 #33
I am on right now and have been on for the last couple hours, with Chief and Port.  Never saw you.
"If you don't expect gratitude, you'll seldom be dissapointed."

16-09-2011 #34
Quote from: RanmaChan on 16-09-2011
I am on right now and have been on for the last couple hours, with Chief and Port.  Never saw you.

Well, after no one was on, I waited.. and waited... and then I left and updated :3
16-09-2011 #35
Quote from: Alltrusion on 16-09-2011
No he showed me with his lap top... I had a visual of it saying "Banned from server!"
But STILL to me it doesn't matter if you just temp banned him as long as he can get back on.

Conversation with Port:

|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: bro
CommanderA: ?
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: dunno
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: what up
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: So who thinks they got banned?
CommanderA: Firenz
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: Oh
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: That's right
CommanderA: I have no idea about it
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: we banned him for being a huge faggot
CommanderA: I don't remember banning him at all
CommanderA: Oh?
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: But he's defs learned his lesson
CommanderA: What did he do?
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: He raged and flamed me
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: like
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: back in DEAP
CommanderA: He wasn't around back then?
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: Whatever
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: We're talking firath_magi right?
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: he did something like drama to the max and I temp-banned him
CommanderA: He came a little bit after Allt, which was Kondak, which was this server, lol....
CommanderA: No
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: wat
CommanderA: No yeah see
CommanderA: I thought he was the same guy too
CommanderA: I got confused
CommanderA: Its not firath
CommanderA: Its firenz
CommanderA: Totally different guy
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: oh
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: then i didn't ban his rumbp
CommanderA: Well
CommanderA: He says someone banned him
CommanderA: Firenz0
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: OH
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: Wasn't heeee
CommanderA: He says that he got banned from the server
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: That guy's brother
CommanderA: Allts
CommanderA: Yes
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: That's odd.
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: I don't remember.
|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: I'll blame ChiefOh or someone

/end, lol.  Once the server updates, have him try again, and if it says he is banned then I will pardon his username and see what it says.
"If you don't expect gratitude, you'll seldom be dissapointed."

17-09-2011 #36
Quote from: RanmaChan on 16-09-2011
Quote from: Alltrusion on 16-09-2011
No he showed me with his lap top... I had a visual of it saying "Banned from server!"
But STILL to me it doesn't matter if you just temp banned him as long as he can get back on.


|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: I'll blame ChiefOh or someone


XDD
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17-09-2011 #37
Quote from: Beano on 17-09-2011
Quote from: RanmaChan on 16-09-2011
Quote from: Alltrusion on 16-09-2011
No he showed me with his lap top... I had a visual of it saying "Banned from server!"
But STILL to me it doesn't matter if you just temp banned him as long as he can get back on.


|HGN-MCM| cannonInspector: I'll blame ChiefOh or someone


XDD

Like I said idc who did banned him.. but if he still is he needs to be unbaned. Oh and he's not my brother :D
17-09-2011 #38
I have mentioned this to some people but would a form of black market trading guild thing be possible in conjunction with the in-city guilds? And if there were to be multiple thieves guild operating in different parts of the city would a large 10 second PvP brawl be allowed with people escaping and taking off armour or putting it on to stop themselves being recognised be possible? this is a bit long-winded but it seems a cool idea to me, though I am aware more people would probably be needed to do the multi-thieves guild idea.
pffft
17-09-2011 #39
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
I have mentioned this to some people but would a form of black market trading guild thing be possible in conjunction with the in-city guilds? And if there were to be multiple thieves guild operating in different parts of the city would a large 10 second PvP brawl be allowed with people escaping and taking off armour or putting it on to stop themselves being recognised be possible? this is a bit long-winded but it seems a cool idea to me, though I am aware more people would probably be needed to do the multi-thieves guild idea.

I agree.

The Loners: A group of thieves specializing in anonymous trading
The Greed: A group of thieves specializing in stealing from the wealthy, only treasures and money
The Wolves(?): A group of all around thieves, they're extremely loyal and never travel alone
The Fangs: A group of thieves that steal on their off-time. Better known to dispose of enemies, rather than steal their belongings. More of Assassins.
17-09-2011 #40
Quote from: Feerman on 17-09-2011
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
I have mentioned this to some people but would a form of black market trading guild thing be possible in conjunction with the in-city guilds? And if there were to be multiple thieves guild operating in different parts of the city would a large 10 second PvP brawl be allowed with people escaping and taking off armour or putting it on to stop themselves being recognised be possible? this is a bit long-winded but it seems a cool idea to me, though I am aware more people would probably be needed to do the multi-thieves guild idea.

I agree.

The Loners: A group of thieves specializing in anonymous trading
The Greed: A group of thieves specializing in stealing from the wealthy, only treasures and money
The Wolves(?): A group of all around thieves, they're extremely loyal and never travel alone
The Fangs: A group of thieves that steal on their off-time. Better known to dispose of enemies, rather than steal their belongings. More of Assassins.
i was thinking a thieves guild in the merchant area, one or two in the residential area and one in the docks (if we have them anymore), the names are a cool idea. if they each have their own area the possibilities of a protection racket go up and of toll paths,
pffft
17-09-2011 #41
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
Quote from: Feerman on 17-09-2011
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
I have mentioned this to some people but would a form of black market trading guild thing be possible in conjunction with the in-city guilds? And if there were to be multiple thieves guild operating in different parts of the city would a large 10 second PvP brawl be allowed with people escaping and taking off armour or putting it on to stop themselves being recognised be possible? this is a bit long-winded but it seems a cool idea to me, though I am aware more people would probably be needed to do the multi-thieves guild idea.

I agree.

The Loners: A group of thieves specializing in anonymous trading
The Greed: A group of thieves specializing in stealing from the wealthy, only treasures and money
The Wolves(?): A group of all around thieves, they're extremely loyal and never travel alone
The Fangs: A group of thieves that steal on their off-time. Better known to dispose of enemies, rather than steal their belongings. More of Assassins.
i was thinking a thieves guild in the merchant area, one or two in the residential area and one in the docks (if we have them anymore), the names are a cool idea. if they each have their own area the possibilities of a protection racket go up and of toll paths,

Is any of that legal? Because I can give you many reasons to why if you try to stick this guild in Ermor you will be arrested. Unless Ermor is lawless I doubt you will last long. Especially if you move into the merchant area (Which I'm still not clear as to whether I control building in the area as head merchant), and open a black market aswell as stealing, forcing protection money and toll booths. Merchants are probably equally ruthless as thieves are and I have witnessed this first hand. Inhibiting the business of the merchants is going to make my IC character very unhappy. He can easily take it to the military to deal with so I would think this through ALOT more before carrying through with this. Because otherwise you will likely not last long...
Awesomeness is the best trait one can have
17-09-2011 #42
Quote from: Demonizer877 on 17-09-2011
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
Quote from: Feerman on 17-09-2011
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
I have mentioned this to some people but would a form of black market trading guild thing be possible in conjunction with the in-city guilds? And if there were to be multiple thieves guild operating in different parts of the city would a large 10 second PvP brawl be allowed with people escaping and taking off armour or putting it on to stop themselves being recognised be possible? this is a bit long-winded but it seems a cool idea to me, though I am aware more people would probably be needed to do the multi-thieves guild idea.

I agree.

The Loners: A group of thieves specializing in anonymous trading
The Greed: A group of thieves specializing in stealing from the wealthy, only treasures and money
The Wolves(?): A group of all around thieves, they're extremely loyal and never travel alone
The Fangs: A group of thieves that steal on their off-time. Better known to dispose of enemies, rather than steal their belongings. More of Assassins.
i was thinking a thieves guild in the merchant area, one or two in the residential area and one in the docks (if we have them anymore), the names are a cool idea. if they each have their own area the possibilities of a protection racket go up and of toll paths,

Is any of that legal? Because I can give you many reasons to why if you try to stick this guild in Ermor you will be arrested. Unless Ermor is lawless I doubt you will last long. Especially if you move into the merchant area (Which I'm still not clear as to whether I control building in the area as head merchant), and open a black market aswell as stealing, forcing protection money and toll booths. Merchants are probably equally ruthless as thieves are and I have witnessed this first hand. Inhibiting the business of the merchants is going to make my IC character very unhappy. He can easily take it to the military to deal with so I would think this through ALOT more before carrying through with this. Because otherwise you will likely not last long...
Ok I will admit to some minorish flaws but if Ermor after 1.9 was bigger with established quarters to the city such as merchant, residential, industrial etc it could work, the protection racket might be a bit far fetched but, a criminal underworld is a near essential part of most cities that would give a feeling of realism in Ermor, but I still prefer the idea of small short fights between two opposing guilds that are broken up by the military, a way in which the city could look like is Imardin, a city in series of books by Trudy Canavan, and a similar criminal society
pffft
17-09-2011 #43
Sounds more like a collection of gangs than a guild. You can't really establish yourselves as a guild if you are operating in illegal circumstances.
Awesomeness is the best trait one can have
17-09-2011 #44
I would not partake in anything illegal, but a thieve's guild sounds nice.
Pick one, and as the playerbase grows, another one can be picked.
17-09-2011 #45
fair enough criminal gangs operating everywhere apart from the merchants district and the military base bit
IC i will be head though being overthrown is possible
but no one will know apart from members themselves and if you accuse someone you must have evidence and preferably an eye witness, who wants to join, this will be a sort of second job and you and one person of your choice will be exempt from criminal abuse
that sound good?
pffft
17-09-2011 #46
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
fair enough criminal gangs operating everywhere apart from the merchants district and the military base bit
IC i will be head though being overthrown is possible
but no one will know apart from members themselves and if you accuse someone you must have evidence and preferably an eye witness, who wants to join, this will be a sort of second job and you and one person of your choice will be exempt from criminal abuse
that sound good?
You'll get metagamed to extinction, most likely. Not by admins (I hope), but players.
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17-09-2011 #47
Quote from: lolKieck on 17-09-2011
Quote from: CPftw on 17-09-2011
fair enough criminal gangs operating everywhere apart from the merchants district and the military base bit
IC i will be head though being overthrown is possible
but no one will know apart from members themselves and if you accuse someone you must have evidence and preferably an eye witness, who wants to join, this will be a sort of second job and you and one person of your choice will be exempt from criminal abuse
that sound good?
You'll get metagamed to extinction, most likely. Not by admins (I hope), but players.

Quite honestly, being a high ranking military officer *hmph hmph* I wouldn't even interfere, unless someone reported, or they became a major problem (IC and just stealing to frequently).
Maybe meta, by a few, and as far as I know, if admins were to encourage guilds to be made, why metagame them... to extinction?
17-09-2011 #48
If I was being really naive I would say people would RP properly and play as if they don't know I'm a criminal however, I'm not that stupid I know it will happen but it would be a fairly fun way to waste a day or two and if anyone wants to join me they are welcome
pffft
17-09-2011 #49
Well, you kind of just made it public that you were making one.
If I were you, I would lay low about this for a while, and then create it under a false name, like a cover-up business.
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