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Title: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Turkey on 14-11-2010
To start with players eyes.


Viomura= Purple eyes
Pawx = Red eyes
Shanaro= Yellow eyes.

What the fuck is this shit, Explain.


And now to the fucked up shit.


Shanaro= Has strong willpower and kantana in their title

Pawx = can speak English, German, French, Ukrainian.

What the hell is this shit? Is the zone a anime?
Every character I've approached is perfectly fine.
QuoteNo one gets sick/Diseases
No one gets cold.
No one gets tired.
No one has any physical problems.
Everyone is handsome
Everyone has different colored eyes.
Everyone can control recoil 100%
Everyone cleans their gun everyday so it works fine and never jams
No one eats three times a day. Or even roleplays it.
Everyone is ex-[insert something cool]
Everyone's seen 100000 body's before so doesn't mind them.
No one can smell anything
Everyone has toned hearing so they can hear everything, Removing all sneaking roleplay.
Mutants are puppies, Don't mind them
Mutants cloacks are easy to see.
Mutants cannot pounce more then 3 inches.
Everyone can kill a bloodsucker with their barehands
Anyone is black clothes is a bandit. OFC


Best yet, No good roleplayers want to roleplay with new people. They compeletly avoid people that can't roleplay so well.



I think we should have a better character system also..
like
Characters must chose one good preference.
-Hardworking
-Fit
etc...

Then two flaws.

-Ugly
-Stupid
-Alcoholic
-Coward
-Cheapskate
-Paranoid


Please dear god, Do something about this.
~Turkey
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Khorn on 14-11-2010
Katanas, in the Zone? My Zone? That seems silly.

But yea there are issues with people characters, but a good amount are just natural reactions people have. Such as the whole hearing everything, and seeing bodies without effects.

Not too much you can do about some of them.



Though the stupid swords, super stalkers, or oddball eyes is just plain annoying.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Steel on 15-11-2010
If I still played I would have forced the mong with the katana aswell as the idiots with stupid eyes to remove them. Shame other admins Don't do it. This shit tempts me to come back.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Khorn on 15-11-2010
Maybe you should?
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Steel on 15-11-2010
It never Changes tho'. Admins need to start doing their jobs and punishing these people. Needs to be well regulated. Admins have observe, observe peoples roleplay. I remember someone who decided to put "hunting bow with explosive arrows" asked him where he got it from, said he didn't. Even if he had a valid reason he shouldn't be allowed it. Things like that shouldn't be allowed at
All.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Tom on 15-11-2010
Now buy red eyes does Pawx mean red as in his Iris is red or red as in they are bloodshot. Also if I see said Katana person Ill tell them to fuck that out of there title. as far as the eye color issue I will see to it shit like that dosn't happen. And forcing people to pick off of a list of traits is rather well. . . I don't know I don't like it, Though My chars ussally have two or more flaws anyway along with alot of good qualities, Having people pick HUST ONE good quality and JUST TWO bad creates a bunch of generic characters, But if you say have people meet half and half or 1/3rds Bad to Good quality ratio it would be interesting, though there is really No way to force EVERYONE to pick a list of bad things and a list of good. And if anyone pulls "lol I iz ninja" inform a damn admin via SF, and please DO NOT take it to the OOC server side, it makes for a confusing lyberinthy maze of ooc shit that is in-navigatable due to "LOLOLLTROLLHEBENOOB" "OMG HE DID THAT BAN BAN BAN BAN"
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Bielecki on 15-11-2010
People need to stop having the taste of a 12 year old, I mean a katana? What a fucking moron.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Predu on 15-11-2010
Oh great, now where has the Zone gone to. And that title thing won't work, people come up with new powers pretty much as much as they want to. As well as people propably won't remember their title, so that is why title is just for outlook, and creating RP. These things should be taken to serious admin discussion, maybe admins should check the titles of a person and decide if it is alright and the 'Zone' -like, I don't know.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Bielecki on 15-11-2010
The admins make stupid lame characters like this also. Its because these people lack creativity so they have to go for the most extreme silly character they can think of, it goes nowhere beyond "Will this character be cool?".

Get a god damn imagination people.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: jaik on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Turkey on 14-11-2010
Shanaro= Has strong willpower and kantana in their title

Not surprised, when I was an SA on XH he did pull that kind of shit.
Nothing I could do about it, tho.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Blake.H on 15-11-2010
I agree with Turk here. I mean if we don't sort it then we might as well have these added to go with the Karma:

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Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Dug on 15-11-2010
Good luck pulling that katana against Duty, we'll just cut you down and ignore your silly katana.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Steel on 15-11-2010
It shouldn't be there full stop. Just ignore people with stupid titles and don't rp with them.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Dug on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-11-2010
It shouldn't be there full stop. Just ignore people with stupid titles and don't rp with them.

I try to correct titles of players when I run into them. Certain people don't understand that the only thing you put in your title, is what can be seen on your character.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: lolKieck on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-11-2010
If I still played I would have forced the mong with the katana aswell as the idiots with stupid eyes to remove them. Shame other admins Don't do it. This shit tempts me to come back.
Then PLAY and DO something.
If you think the admins aren't good, why don't you get admin back and SHOW them HOW IT'S DONE.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Dug on 15-11-2010
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-11-2010
If I still played I would have forced the mong with the katana aswell as the idiots with stupid eyes to remove them. Shame other admins Don't do it. This shit tempts me to come back.
Then PLAY and DO something.
If you think the admins aren't good, why don't you get admin back and SHOW them HOW IT'S DONE.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Nargotah on 15-11-2010
You know, I guess they could just be wearing contacts.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Turkey on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Longlostblake on 15-11-2010
I agree with Turk here. I mean if we don't sort it then we might as well have these added to go with the Karma:

(https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi402.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp105%2Flonglostblake%2Fach.png&hash=816c18a6e91668472d0f95bf15398e90e5c73e0e)

LOL! HOLY SHIT BLAKE! I farted laughing at this


Quote from: Nargotah on 15-11-2010
You know, I guess they could just be wearing contacts.

Heres the thing. It's the zone. Not a fashion show. That would just be... I don't..


Pawx. I am sorry I judged you. Your title was misleading quite a bit though.

Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Commissar Nitro on 15-11-2010
the thing to do is not remove them or avoid RPing with them, We need to teach folk to balance their chars, For instance sevral of you know i have a char who carries a claymore, AKA a five and a half foot long anti cavalry sowrd. Thus making him a scary as fuck oponant in hand to hand. But he dosent carry a gun, Only time he used one was to throw it at a stalker in a bar who spilled his drink.

And before you rage about him having it, It was authed by paintcheck a few mounths back. And im in the proces of writing his backstory, Short version is: The zone dosent just attract the dregs of sociaty My char is from a scotish aristocrat family never had to work a day in his life and spent most of his life as an adrenalin junkie, Hes in the zone for one reason! Hunting mutants for sport.

Before you judge someones chars and bitch about it report it to an admin who will investigate it.

Fuck PM me and ill do it.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Steel on 15-11-2010
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-11-2010
If I still played I would have forced the mong with the katana aswell as the idiots with stupid eyes to remove them. Shame other admins Don't do it. This shit tempts me to come back.
Then PLAY and DO something.
If you think the admins aren't good, why don't you get admin back and SHOW them HOW IT'S DONE.

Because i really cannot be bothered, you do one thing, then it only gets undone a few days later, lack of motivation.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Paintcheck on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Commisar Nitro on 15-11-2010
the thing to do is not remove them or avoid RPing with them, We need to teach folk to balance their chars, For instance sevral of you know i have a char who carries a claymore, AKA a five and a half foot long anti cavalry sowrd. Thus making him a scary as fuck oponant in hand to hand. But he dosent carry a gun, Only time he used one was to throw it at a stalker in a bar who spilled his drink.

And before you rage about him having it, It was authed by paintcheck a few mounths back. And im in the proces of writing his backstory, Short version is: The zone dosent just attract the dregs of sociaty My char is from a scotish aristocrat family never had to work a day in his life and spent most of his life as an adrenalin junkie, Hes in the zone for one reason! Hunting mutants for sport.

Before you judge someones chars and bitch about it report it to an admin who will investigate it.

Fuck PM me and ill do it.

When the hell did I auth a claymore?

On topic I am back from Water Polo Nationals and ready to beat the shit out of idiots with stupid chars. Shanaro also is trying to do the same shit in the (nonexistant) FORP server as well (see IC section of those boards). "Strong Willed" isn't THAT bad but weeabo anime katana shit is and will be dealt with.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Steven :D on 15-11-2010
I thought Pawx got mindfucked by a controller and escaped with permanently red eyes or some stuff like that.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Tom on 15-11-2010
Red as in Irises red or red as in bloodshot?
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Ravanger on 15-11-2010
Everyone makes stupied characters which I believe to be a fact and I think no one is out of this.  I took mention of this while back when a thread like this was made and I made Fellow a ugly bastard and tried to make him not so over powering, sometimes people are mislead by first aperances. But yes I remember always seeing people with funky ass hair and usally full built bodies and what not in stalker. You cant really stop it is all I am saying but you can urge people to change a little bit.

Aswell as Hugo I tried to make him this short, rich and creepy bastard. I think Hugo was my best character I made besides Lucious, my orignal stalker who got pked by blake.

Also if Fallout roleplay does actually even come out the admins for it will have to watch for silly people who take funny looks and all sorts of things instead of focusing on survival, like pink hair and shit. Since me and Plunger had a good conversation about this almost a year ago or so.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Khorn on 15-11-2010
My weirdest character is my bandit.

But that's cause he's old and crazy and talks to a skull on his belt. I have a back story with it, and I have an IC reason to have it too.


Now I think of it, all my characters except my merc have somewhat average mental issue.

Stevon is crazy, talks to a skull. Khorn is Monolithized, depressed by death of brother. Stovik lost his memory, may be dead, haven't decided. Torik, was a zombie, started as a foolish treasure hunter. Yuran, just an average and annoyed mercenary.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Ravanger on 15-11-2010
well I mean none of my characters has been over the top insane/powerful and perfect adcept Kranzer, but I mean I had him for about my entire time on HGN and I have evolved him from the start. As well Fellow is somewhat anti-social.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Steven :D on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Ravanger on 15-11-2010As well Fellow is somewhat anti-social.
I dont think leading a PBG makes you antisocial. Especially since you tell me all your ideas and such usually (Icly)
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Turkey on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Steven :D on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Ravanger on 15-11-2010As well Fellow is somewhat anti-social.
I dont think leading a PBG makes you antisocial. Especially since you tell me all your ideas and such usually (Icly)

How did he in anyway mention his PBG be related to that? Don't go off topic.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Bielecki on 15-11-2010
The majority of you guys make characters focused on visuals, Clothes, styles and stuff. If its not looks, it's based on some ridiculous back stories based on magic (You call it science), eccentric settings and over the top personality issues.

For the love of god, stop making such one dimensional characters! Like I said before, get a god damn imagination.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Turkey on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Bielecki on 15-11-2010
The majority of you guys make characters focused on visuals, Clothes, styles and stuff. If its not looks, it's based on some ridiculous back stories based on magic (You call it science), eccentric settings and over the top personality issues.

For the love of god, stop making such one dimensional characters! Like I said before, get a god damn imagination.


I agree with you 100%.. You took the words outta my mouth.. My trader= Ugly. Freedom=Ugly.
Stalker=Ugly
Merc=Ugly
Not a single one of my charceters is uber attractive that every girl wants to cyber b0ne
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: N3gativezero on 15-11-2010
People tend to want to RP as something they're not. So if everyone is making thier characters 6'5" bodybuilders with no family, then what does that say about them?
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Paintcheck on 15-11-2010
Stop posting "Well my character isn't like that." You are just cluttering this topic congratulating yourselves for not breaking rules during character creation.

Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Ravanger on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Paintcheck on 15-11-2010
Stop posting "Well my character isn't like that." You are just cluttering this topic congratulating yourselves for not breaking rules during character creation.



What else are we meant to post? Still I think we cant always control it completely just encourage. Also if we try to give a good example of a character people might follow and so forth. So talking about a good character might make people want to make a char somewhat like yours. So you don't have to look at it that way Paintcheck. Even though I am not trying to gloat to much and congratulate myself I think giving a example or giving a good example of a char and some things not to do might help other people.

Also one more thing not to get off topic, but if you have some sort of nice gear like a exoskeleton or something or some epic merc helmet...It doesn't make you invincible people like to think having a helmet stops anything from hurting them. I mean sure some of the things stop a bullet and such but it still hurts like a motherfucker and such. No offense Taylor but when you had that steel/Kevlar cup you got kneaded in the nuts and acted like nothing happened.

So basically we could try to help give a example, even if people don't follow it.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Steven :D on 15-11-2010
If your a mutant and see someone with a  pretty face, mutilate it and then leave them there. See someone whose a tall muscular body builder? Shoot him in the knee cap as a bandit. We need people out there who will hunt people with 'perfect' characters.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Paintcheck on 15-11-2010
That's...actually a really really good idea.

Only problem is getting said idiot to accept being injured which they won't since they already are powergaming. Better to just admin pwn them. Did ban ever get fixed?
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Locke on 15-11-2010
my newest character didn't see a dead body until a freedomer killed a dutier who was mortally wounded.
shit got real very fast.

i know i dont play much, but i at least kept some realism and humanity about my characters.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Turkey on 15-11-2010
Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 15-11-2010
my newest character didn't see a dead body until a freedomer killed a dutier who was mortally wounded.
shit got real very fast.

i know i dont play much, but i at least kept some realism and humanity about my characters.

I remember that, dude. your the greatest roleplayer ever.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Aresty on 16-11-2010
About your chars Rov, I rember Dardy shooting a shotgun at you up-close... And he just got up and ran away.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Bielecki on 16-11-2010
Quote from: Turkey on 15-11-2010
I agree with you 100%.. You took the words outta my mouth.. My trader= Ugly. Freedom=Ugly.
Stalker=Ugly
Merc=Ugly
Not a single one of my charceters is uber attractive that every girl wants to cyber b0ne

No you're missing my point. You can still have a completely one dimensional character that happens to be ugly, its still a focus on looks.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Tom on 16-11-2010
Personally myself I asspull numbers out of a hat, like Joel is 5'11 and 176Lbs or some shit like that, But I have nothing describing weather or not he is attractive, I mean I have glasses in his title and curly hair. I also did the same for the rest of my chars. What I am getting at is, you don't HAVE to point out rather a person is "Ugly" or "Handsome" I ussally let people imagine what my chars look like by only giving a weight, a height, some hair/eye Description and then I give the char i personallity. For instance, I think people would have imagined my character Tommy as being Extremely attractive due to his confidence and the fact that it seem'd like EVERY chick within' a 100 Mile radius wanted to hang out with him.

Example of one of my titles "136Lbs|5'9|Brown Short Hair|Hazel eyes|Female|Slave Collar" No where in there do I point out that this female is "Attractive" in any way, I ussally allow the other RPer to develope a physical appearance based on what they find out ICly.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Khorn on 16-11-2010
You should know, if you start to describe a character and you get to the part that says female, it will make everyone kid want to RP with you.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-11-2010
http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/roleplay-guides/character-creation-or-'how-to-make-a-character-that-won't-make-you-look-12'/ (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/roleplay-guides/character-creation-or-'how-to-make-a-character-that-won't-make-you-look-12'/)

I'll just leave this here.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Tom on 16-11-2010
Yeah BUT Tommy WASN'T female either, yet alot of people RP'd with him since he was interesting with alot of personallity flaws, I NEVER had ANYWHERE in his title saying "Handsome" or "Sexy", people just percieved Thomas Wainscott as attractive since he was very confident.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Chaos on 16-11-2010
Quote from: Turkey on 14-11-2010
QuoteAnyone is black clothes is a bandit. OFC
You mean with?
Cops in real life judge all the time. They'll call you a thug or something if you dress like one.
People made an advertisment calling for help, and I came late and found a guy with a black coat and a guy in a trenchcoat, next to a dead body.  I thought robbery+murder, and told them of my suspicion. They complained that I can't judge them by the way they look, even under the circumstances. There's no rule in Duty about that kind of discrimination, why would we change something that is logical in real life, or even stalker terms.


Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Khorn on 16-11-2010
Quote from: Tom on 16-11-2010
Yeah BUT Tommy WASN'T female either, yet alot of people RP'd with him since he was interesting with alot of personallity flaws, I NEVER had ANYWHERE in his title saying "Handsome" or "Sexy", people just percieved Thomas Wainscott as attractive since he was very confident.

After the first impression, I didn't like Tommy to much. He kicked my guy in the chest after I tried to help him up.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-11-2010
That is different though Chaos since you have reason to believe that guy is sketchy. What Tom and others are complaining about is when you have someone wearing a trench coat walking down the street doing nothing sketchy looking and get STK'd by idiots because they go "lol clearly a bandit".

You can't really judge people by appearance in the Zone since everyone walks around in tactical gear carrying guns. That is why the "in real life cops judge people by their looks" argument falls flat; because in real life someone walking around wearing a skimask and wielding a gun is not normal and clearly will draw suspicions.

And now you are going to say "Well in SoC all bandits wore trench coats so clearly I can judge based on that". No, you can't. Because if game mechanics like that counted as canon, Military would STK STALKERs on site, the leader of the bloodsuckers wouldn't be a puppy dog, and bandits would be able to STK without people bitching about being DM'd. So you either have all that or you have none of that and since we don't have all of that you cannot make assumptions based solely on peoples' models alone. You CAN make assumptions based on other things (like Chaos mentioned earlier about the dude standing next to the corpse, that is fine) but not based on clothing.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Khorn on 16-11-2010
Maybe we should replace the standard player model with a trench coat. That way every new player has a trench.




I don't know, can't stop people from being stupid and paranoid.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: N3gativezero on 16-11-2010
On the topic of people judging characters by thier appearance. My Loner char wears a black trenchcoat, and the thing that made me laugh my ass off was when I got kicked out of Duty's base for being a "bandit", although to cover up the metagaming the guy used the excuse "lol i dont like your coat take it off or GTFO". That exact scenario happened a second time. I was forced to take it off, or leave, becuase apparently they where "suspicious" that I was a bandit, even though I had done no suspicious activities, other than watch a few round of arena fights.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Dug on 17-11-2010
So you are saying no one can be suspicous? If we see you as a suspicous person/don't have the right feeling about you, we might as well kill you/put you in our prison/or just throw you out. We can assume many things and think of many things hence it's our base.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Tom on 17-11-2010
Wait Wait Wait, No No, We're saying its dumb for people to run up to a random person with a trench coat and go "lol u r bandit!" even if the person is CLEARLY just stalkering.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Paintcheck on 17-11-2010
Quote from: Dug on 17-11-2010
So you are saying no one can be suspicous? If we see you as a suspicous person/don't have the right feeling about you, we might as well kill you/put you in our prison/or just throw you out. We can assume many things and think of many things hence it's our base.

That's fine provided you have a reason for the suspicion, not just "You're wearing a leather trenchcoat." Wearing a bloodstained trench coat with the pdas and wallets of 5 dead STALKERs who you can see about 100 yards away is suspicious. Wearing a trench coat is not. 
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Ace of Hearts on 18-11-2010
Quote from: Paintcheck on 17-11-2010
Quote from: Dug on 17-11-2010
So you are saying no one can be suspicous? If we see you as a suspicous person/don't have the right feeling about you, we might as well kill you/put you in our prison/or just throw you out. We can assume many things and think of many things hence it's our base.

That's fine provided you have a reason for the suspicion, not just "You're wearing a leather trenchcoat." Wearing a bloodstained trench coat with the pdas and wallets of 5 dead STALKERs who you can see about 100 yards away is suspicious. Wearing a trench coat is not. 

This.

Putting every Bandit in a trenchcoat or black jacket was just a game mechanic, so you didn't have to play investigator during a firefight and figure out who was on who's side. In reality, just about any Loner or Mercenary you meet could be a Bandit, nothing is FORCING them to wear the trenchcoats & black jackets like in the games.
Title: Re: Serious Character Issues
Post by: Tom on 19-11-2010
Quote from: SimplyStealth on 18-11-2010
Quote from: Paintcheck on 17-11-2010
Quote from: Dug on 17-11-2010
So you are saying no one can be suspicous? If we see you as a suspicous person/don't have the right feeling about you, we might as well kill you/put you in our prison/or just throw you out. We can assume many things and think of many things hence it's our base.

That's fine provided you have a reason for the suspicion, not just "You're wearing a leather trenchcoat." Wearing a bloodstained trench coat with the pdas and wallets of 5 dead STALKERs who you can see about 100 yards away is suspicious. Wearing a trench coat is not. 

This.

Putting every Bandit in a trenchcoat or black jacket was just a game mechanic, so you didn't have to play investigator during a firefight and figure out who was on who's side. In reality, just about any Loner or Mercenary you meet could be a Bandit, nothing is FORCING them to wear the trenchcoats & black jackets like in the games.

^^^^^This is what I have been saying ALL along.