Alright I posted a (much longer) version of this in the admin room but some of it deals with specific players and so this is the "safe for public consumption" version.
First off, stop RPing having ridiculously modified suits using custom bulletproof stuff that makes you invincible. It's stupid, makes no sense, and is powergaming. You know who you are and I am not just talking about Wazer's "Dragon skin" because I've seen stuff even more outrageous than that. This is the Zone, not Eagle Industries, you do not have access to prototype American body armor that never saw production, you do not have exoskeletons capable of supporting 10 inch titanium plates, and you do not have a hazmat suit (unless you have a SEVA). Chances are you have a piece of crap Russian surplus flak jacket and maybe a load bearing harness. If you are a richer merc you might have some modern American gear but you're still not going to have Interceptor 5 top of the line body armor. I don't care who your "contacts" are, you cannot power game having unbreakable armor.
Another thing I take offense to is these people with like 8 pounds of tacticool gear on their weapons. This isn't really a powergaming offense like the armor issue but I see people with titles like "M4A1 552 holosight laser, silencer, M203" and it's like "Look dude you're a fucking random civilian who snuck into the Zone. M203s are expensive, EoTech sights are expensive, M4A1s don't really make any sense to be in Ukraine, like why are you kitted out like a fucking armory?" People need to get out of this "lol Mw2" mindset and have realistic gear. Sights are expensive, they break, need batteries, etc. Not to mention very few people have the capacity to gunsmith in ways that some players are advertising (and before any of you point out Kirill's custom LR300, most of that is just cosmetic mods that anyone with a drill could do for fun. I'm talking about people who have AK74s that are apparently ".5 moa with a 5 knot crosswind" For those of you who don't know what that means, basically that is accuracy that the best sniper rifles in the world with the best marksmen in the world struggle to do. Your pos AK is never going to shoot like that, period). People are acting like this high end military surplus is all over the place in the Zone. It isn't. Most guns in the Zone are pieces of shit or bone stock Russian surplus. If you are a merc or army, then congrats you have bone stock new rifles, maybe with a red dot or Acog or something. But you do not have a heart beat sensor, thermal scope, silencer, 14in upper 20 in upper, 7.62 lower, 6.8 lower, 5.56 lower, and 9 different stocks for your gun (and if you didn't know what half that gear was then you probably aren't guilty of doing this).
Yeah it seems stupid to complain about, and I am one of the first people to say "RP over actual items" but be realistic. Stop power gaming with your gear. The Zone loses some of its fun when everyone walks around with top of the line gear. The Zone should be about scavenging and field repairs, not about brand new prototype rifles and 20 thousand dollar + armor and gear.
So true man so true. We connected for a moment there, all of this is true (Btw Dragon skin is weak if shot at from an elevation, now go meta game that to Welek) you were probably smuggled into the zone or bribed your self in and that in it's self exhaust's lot's of a resources and once you get in it is hard to find a decent or new weapon. Your lucky to find a NATO weapon at all, you are now just trying to survive with what you got. You are no damn special op team. (Excuse my shitty spelling I am tired)
I totally agree with you.
When I'm on my bloodsucker, and I try to attack people with exo-suits they say "Lol nope I have a upgraded exo suit you can't pierce my suit."
It's getting ridiculous.
Agreed with this...
if anything your title for your damn weapon should be a fucking rusty ak with the butt falling to pieces.
But what if you are like me. I Like the LR300 and the only upgrade I have for it is the M203, I RP bought it off of cutch so that I could still "Have" a Grenade launcher but not have to use the Groza, Or FN. But as far as people walking around with top notch gear. Yeah it is very rediculus, Specaily since now it seems like EVERYONE has "Upgraded suit" in there title or some other bastardized from of it in there title.
Quote from: Tom on 12-03-2010
But what if you are like me. I Like the LR300 and the only upgrade I have for it is the M203, I RP bought it off of cutch so that I could still "Have" a Grenade launcher but not have to use the Groza, Or FN. But as far as people walking around with top notch gear. Yeah it is very rediculus, Specaily since now it seems like EVERYONE has "Upgraded suit" in there title or some other bastardized from of it in there title.
Theres a solution to this...
I think to a degree you should be able to have something upgraded, but require SA permission and have to be put on an "Upgrade" roster.
Via filling out an application, with a list of upgrades you can have. So somethings you wont be able to have, like epic exo armour.
Things like Sprint Hydrolics for the Exo, which is witnessed in CoP game, is reasonable.
But also require getting the upgrades for a price ICLY.
And these upgrades should be expensive.
So anything that dosent make powergaming possible.
Yeah, That seems logical. Cause I've seen even people with ROOKIE JACKETS have "Upgraded suit" in there title... Wtf is that?! so yeah SA Approval and roster is reasonable along with a list of possible upgrades for the weapon/suit.
Ukraine has a GDP of $7,342, that's lower than some 3rd world African nations. Now considering that the mili are seen to have some of the best (Bar a few very experienced stalkers) how the hell are you going to afford such expensive gear?
Not to mention the fact that when you factor in the cost of smuggling top end NATO gear into bloody Chernobyl, it's going to be several times the normal price.
Chances are, you're going to be stuck with some shitty 'Ak' that was made in somebodies garage in Romania.
And it's going to be nigh on impossible to get prototype stuff. If a governments secret prototype armour is found on a corpse halfway across the world, it isn't going to look good. With such a high risk of death, people simply will not be willing to risk it.
And to finish this little rant off; what are the chances YOU got that gear? No matter who you are, there's always going to be a richer, more well connected person in the zone who would've got that gear before you.
Agreed, I guess later there will be a working upgrade system.
And lets not talk about the Modified ExoskeletonSEVASunriseTrenchCoatSuits.
And not the Automatic Makarov Launcher.
About the Upgrade Roster thats a good idea too. If someone puts some upgrade in their title without being on the roster, will get punished. (ASSLAPPED)
I loled at upgraded stuff paintcheck told about in his post.
Simply loled, as it doesn't make any fucking sense to have all that stuff on you.
Yeah, I agree.
But I guess I can't use my semi-auto P99 with the GL-30 attachment on it anymore.
We should get a list of characters who have upgrades, so they can't just asspull top of the line gear.
One day I met a bandit who killed a stalker, and I tried to tackle him, but he says "no you can't, I'm super strong, at least 6 feet tall, and I used steroids"
Quote from: Hotstarr on 12-03-2010
We should get a list of characters who have upgrades, so they can't just asspull top of the line gear.
One day I met a bandit who killed a stalker, and I tried to tackle him, but he says "no you can't, I'm super strong, at least 6 feet tall, and I used steroids"
And Viagra, I guess.
Too many rosters as is. Agreed with ass pulling though.
as for "shitty flak jackets", I have a replica MOLLE carrier IRL, costed like 85 dollars, and it can use real kevlar plates (not that i'de ever RP carring it over into SRP), just figured i'de mention it's not absolutely impossible.
Where the fuck is everybody getting their upgraded shit from?
I've not seen anybody except ISPYUDIE who is a technician/mechanic IC, and there is no work for me.
I've never really had problems or met anyone claiming they have upgraded stuff, (Never in fights much) But if they're doing what you say they're doing then wow... Why do people think they can get away with that type of crap?
Like i said I have no problems with people haveing "Upgraded" suits... As long as the upgrades make sense. so no "LOL TEN INCH TITANIUM ON MAI ROOKIE SUIT!"
Upgrades are fine in my opinion, as long as the user knows how to use them.
I am a mechanic ICly, and thus upgrade my stuff. But I do it canonly- i.e. things like improved servomotors, so I can actually sprint; 2nd gen night vision; etc.
And before you say "Where did you get them?" I have RPd looting several specnaz corpses throughout my days, and quite often the half-broken nightvision gear is left behind as a pile of junk. My character can repair them, and through tons of fine-tuning, insert them into most gasmask, or just make them external. I, however, do NOT condone the use of things like "titanium-steel skin" and shit that makes you immune to bullets.
Any upgrade I do or sell strictly offers only a MINOR RESISTANCE against a certain thing. A chainmail inlay can SLIGHTLY reduce a mutant's claw's damage. EVEN THEN- only the first few swipes would actually be affected, before the chainmail rapidly decays to a near-useless state.
I reccomend making them application only. Perhaps something like this:
name, flag, faction affiliation, PERSON WHO IS PREFORMING THE UPGRADE, what the upgrade is, etc.
This way, we can maintain only a limited number of "expert craftsmen," thus creating quite a bit of roleplay as rookies and experts alike come to get their suits, guns, and items repaired or upgraded.
Sprinting in an exo is stupid, period.
Quote from: Lucidius on 12-03-2010
Sprinting in an exo is stupid, period.
Oh, what, so you want me to walk from the Duty base to the Red Forest tower?
I think not.
Lol'd Dutch, it's all legit in CoP you can upgrade a Exo to run so stop being angry about it.
I know, that's what I meant. Most, if not all, of my upgrades are canon.
So it's cool.
You got a point on how people sometimes asspull stuff but it is usally not to much of a big deal.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 11-03-2010
People need to get out of this "lol Mw2" mindset and have realistic gear. Sights are expensive, they break, need batteries, etc.
B-B-But.. My riot shield that's a piece of tank armor...
What bugs me about having an upgrade roster or whatever is that it ruins the atmosphere a bit since everyone would be like "Lawl I has American everything!" and apply for it. In the STALKER games there was a feeling of desperation because your gear was worn, your gun was rusty, and you had to really struggle to make it through the day. I think a lot of that atmosphere is lost when everyone and their brother is kitted out like a fucking Navy SEAL.
And on a side note, Exos are tough but not absolutely impenetrable. In SoC I killed a guy in an Exo with one shot to the head from a USP 45. They are not tanks, please stop acting like just because you have 500+% armor and can HPly survive 4 mags to the chest ICly you'd likely be dead.
And King Arthur I actually like your shield because it is just a random piece of scrap metal that isn't some prototype titanium bullet proof ultra lightweight...thing. It's actually cobbled together and kind of crappy. That is the kind of stuff we should be seeing in the Zone.
And going on this feeling of desperation some more, what the fuck is up with some of these "ultra traders" that have like 500 bazillion dollars and their own helicopters? What the fuck? You shouldn't WANT to be in the Zone, it's irradiated and generally a hell hole. If you had that kind of money you wouldn't be in some shit hole ex Eastern Bloc country. Yes traders do make money but again they aren't venture capitalists.
People don't understand the concept of;
"Going to the zone for 'riches'"
You go there, you get your money, you leave. Nothing binds you to stay, and as a trader, if you have bajillions of dollars, why would you keep putting your self at risk just so you can get more money if you can just fucking retire, get out of the zone and not have to deal with bullshit?
'Master Stalkers', generally you make enouh money that if you sold your shit and left, you'de buy a house, and have bills payed off for a while, so why the fuck do you still stick around? I mean it's nice ot be LOLUBER in your guy but ICly people should have goals in the one and shouldn't stick around without reason, it's completely irrational.
I agree, if I was rich enough to afford a prototype exosuit, I would sell it and go retire in Nebraska :V
Actually, guys, one million rubles is only 38,130 USD. That's hardly enough to buy a good house and spend the rest of your life in luxury.
Just pointing out that rubles are work less than toilet paper.
And I never roleplay that my exosuit is invulnerable. Often if I get shot, the exosuit is torn to shreds in the area of impact. As it should be.
Quote from: Lucidius on 12-03-2010
Too many rosters as is. Agreed with ass pulling though.
as for "shitty flak jackets", I have a replica MOLLE carrier IRL, costed like 85 dollars, and it can use real kevlar plates (not that i'de ever RP carring it over into SRP), just figured i'de mention it's not absolutely impossible.
Yeah, but keep in mind that you live in a developed western nation (I assume) where as these people are living in a 3rd world ex Warsaw Pact nation where the prices are increased further because of all the bribes you'd have to make to smuggle things in.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 12-03-2010
What bugs me about having an upgrade roster or whatever is that it ruins the atmosphere a bit since everyone would be like "Lawl I has American everything!" and apply for it. In the STALKER games there was a feeling of desperation because your gear was worn, your gun was rusty, and you had to really struggle to make it through the day. I think a lot of that atmosphere is lost when everyone and their brother is kitted out like a fucking Navy SEAL.
If it was to happen tho, we could make them expensive, and there would be a list of available choices you could do, so no random american spec ops navy seals super soldier shit.
And whilst we are on the subject of ass pulled shit... What about these Ass pulled bases people make?
There should be RP in getting the parts. I mean factions can be excused to an extent, but we have fortifications like normandy popping out of noware.
Quote from: Lucidius on 12-03-2010
People don't understand the concept of;
"Going to the zone for 'riches'"
You go there, you get your money, you leave. Nothing binds you to stay, and as a trader, if you have bajillions of dollars, why would you keep putting your self at risk just so you can get more money if you can just fucking retire, get out of the zone and not have to deal with bullshit?
'Master Stalkers', generally you make enouh money that if you sold your shit and left, you'de buy a house, and have bills payed off for a while, so why the fuck do you still stick around? I mean it's nice ot be LOLUBER in your guy but ICly people should have goals in the one and shouldn't stick around without reason, it's completely irrational.
Have you never played Stalker? I remember very clearly it saying.
"You got stuck here, I got stuck here all I want to do is go home."
Probably meaning they can't leave?
And also "The Other world didnt want me, but this one did"
Alot of stalkers arent there by choice, they had nowhere else to turn in the real world.
Quote from: The Jackal on 13-03-2010
And whilst we are on the subject of ass pulled shit... What about these Ass pulled bases people make?
There should be RP in getting the parts. I mean factions can be excused to an extent, but we have fortifications like normandy popping out of noware.
What are you talking about? In real life, I can walk outside and snap my fingers, and a bunker drops from the sky, it's pretty cool.
Yeah Jackal you mean you can't do that in real life? Hmm your tooltrust must be broken. Talk to an admin, they'll get you fixed up.
Asspulled bases aka Doomforts bother me but I haven't seen too many of them. I don't think people need to necessarily RP finding every piece of scrap that goes into their base but some restraint is nice. Most bases I've seen are fine.
I completely agree, i saw a guy with "Sunrise Suit" in his title, he did not have a sunrise suit, i mean, WTF? what a bunch of bull he was shittin'.
Quote from: Welek on 13-03-2010
Quote from: Lucidius on 12-03-2010
People don't understand the concept of;
"Going to the zone for 'riches'"
You go there, you get your money, you leave. Nothing binds you to stay, and as a trader, if you have bajillions of dollars, why would you keep putting your self at risk just so you can get more money if you can just fucking retire, get out of the zone and not have to deal with bullshit?
'Master Stalkers', generally you make enouh money that if you sold your shit and left, you'de buy a house, and have bills payed off for a while, so why the fuck do you still stick around? I mean it's nice ot be LOLUBER in your guy but ICly people should have goals in the one and shouldn't stick around without reason, it's completely irrational.
Have you never played Stalker? I remember very clearly it saying.
"You got stuck here, I got stuck here all I want to do is go home."
Probably meaning they can't leave?
The ones who arn't criminals hiding from the authority in the zone, or have no jobs and are trying to make money.
Not everyone is 'stuck in the zone', but a bit of money goes a long way in around russia, the entire government is corrupt. Look at the captured Captain (think it was him), in CS. He talks about how the military expect him to risk his life for jack shit (shitty pay) "for the mother land", so he decided he'de co-operate with people in the zone abit to make a bit of money.
If you check humanitarian videos about Russia's health care, you have to BRIDGE nurses to bring you feed, change your colostomy bag, etc. That alone shows how deep the corruption runs. Money Talks, and it talks enough to get a new ID, a new life.
You guys make it sound like, they're thrown in there and the military won't let them out, or that they have no choice, when your RP alone defines the choises people make and how people act which makes your argument pretty moot.
"The other world didn't want me, but this one did". Assuming it's on about the whole, no education and operating weapons and mugging people doesn't require a diploma.
I have a PhD in armed robbery.
I think any upgrades should be admin auth from now on, you either pay from it and employ CRAFTSMAN to upgrade it or you dont do it at all, can we please get this into effect?!
Quote from: Lucidius on 13-03-2010
Quote from: Welek on 13-03-2010
Quote from: Lucidius on 12-03-2010
People don't understand the concept of;
"Going to the zone for 'riches'"
You go there, you get your money, you leave. Nothing binds you to stay, and as a trader, if you have bajillions of dollars, why would you keep putting your self at risk just so you can get more money if you can just fucking retire, get out of the zone and not have to deal with bullshit?
'Master Stalkers', generally you make enouh money that if you sold your shit and left, you'de buy a house, and have bills payed off for a while, so why the fuck do you still stick around? I mean it's nice ot be LOLUBER in your guy but ICly people should have goals in the one and shouldn't stick around without reason, it's completely irrational.
Have you never played Stalker? I remember very clearly it saying.
"You got stuck here, I got stuck here all I want to do is go home."
Probably meaning they can't leave?
The ones who arn't criminals hiding from the authority in the zone, or have no jobs and are trying to make money.
Not everyone is 'stuck in the zone', but a bit of money goes a long way in around russia, the entire government is corrupt. Look at the captured Captain (think it was him), in CS. He talks about how the military expect him to risk his life for jack shit (shitty pay) "for the mother land", so he decided he'de co-operate with people in the zone abit to make a bit of money.
If you check humanitarian videos about Russia's health care, you have to BRIDGE nurses to bring you feed, change your colostomy bag, etc. That alone shows how deep the corruption runs. Money Talks, and it talks enough to get a new ID, a new life.
You guys make it sound like, they're thrown in there and the military won't let them out, or that they have no choice, when your RP alone defines the choises people make and how people act which makes your argument pretty moot.
"The other world didn't want me, but this one did". Assuming it's on about the whole, no education and operating weapons and mugging people doesn't require a diploma.
But stalker isn't set in Russia, and whilst I imagine the situation can't be that much worse in Ukraine, it's not going to be that easy to simply bribe your way out of killing a police officer. The people you'd have to bribe would probably be friends of the deceased, so you can imagine how well that would go down...
Ah but the coin has two sides. It's just as easy to pay to get someone killed and with larger bank accounts, someone can limit your safety zone to...well the Zone. You say it's possible to get a fake ID and get a new life, but this falls apart when a strong enough preventative back-story is played such as, MY FATHER IS AN EVIL PERSUN WHO HAZ LOTS OF MUNNY HUR HUR HUR, and while that may sound like a cheap cop out, considering the fact that most people capable of hunting you down can pay, or intimidate way better than a single or a small group of stalkers could, I'm pretty sure you're stuck regardless of how badly written your character's reason for being in the zone is. Plus you can't really bribe your way out if the people you pissed off already work outside the law, such as mobsters or really really messed up sociopaths. Having worked in real estate as a secretary for my mother, I know that once you find out someone's name, and get access to a computer you know everything you need to track them in the US and since once you enter the Zone you're pretty likely to make even more enemies, the cycle is never ending if you tick off the wrong people....Alot.
As for the main topic I'm like....ghh...this is stupid. Shouldn't there only be like...you know...salvageable and reliable weapons considering how rare working parts are in the Zone and how rarely they're reintroduced? It doesn't make any sense at all. Not to mention weight should be an issue as well. The average soldier doesn't NORMALLY have to gunfight with SATAN, and I'd imagine that having an extra six pounds of AWESUM on your gun, and a stiff exosuit made entirely of STEEL wouldn't help it's efficiency too much when trying to pry it out of a Bloodsucker's hands. I honestly thought Strelok's mid-grade suit, hair pin trigger AK modification, and standard combat knife were really optimal for surviving in the Zone. Anything lighter was stupid and anything heavier was unsafe and too clumsy to work with. I think we've all played the game enough to corroborate that the Exo Stalkers and the Bandits represented those extremes quite nicely.
I useally call un-neccasary equipment "Tacticool" gear. (AKA Holo dot sight) or a Modified Rookie Jacket (Yes I have seen this 0_0) But seriously can we get off the subject of "IC logic will tell you to leave the zone" and back to the main subject of random STALKERS pulling out "Tacticool" Navy SEAL gear?
QuoteModified Rookie Jacket
How the fuck is that even possible?! What do you do add a extra pocket?
It's a leather jacket for christ's sake.
Quote from: Zstan on 22-03-2010
QuoteModified Rookie Jacket
How the fuck is that even possible?! What do you do add a extra pocket?
It's a leather jacket for christ's sake.
Water proofing.
Fur Liner on the inside.
Built in Pez dispenser?
The possibilities are endless...
Quote from: Zstan on 22-03-2010
QuoteModified Rookie Jacket
How the fuck is that even possible?!
Bandit Jacket.
Also, Ukraine became a part of the russian whatever the fuck in the STALKER universe.
You guys have apparently never been in Texas half this shit u can get at the local flee market i can buy "civilian" 203s that shoot 40mm flares and just buy the 40mm grenade shells and load them myself i have several tactical gear vests some of which are straight from the now aday military i bought each vest for maybe 20 bucks... lol yall really need to visit the south..
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8742/p1020013z.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8742/p1020013z.jpg)
that gun i nthe middle is a fully moded FAL bought the orriginal gun for 300 bucks and just simple bought quad rails and a sight for another 200 this shit is extremly cheap...Military surplus stores are very abundant and can get half this gear yall are saying is super expensive.. that vest they use in iraq? is like 250 bucks down the road at the store.. same exact vest..all is needed it steel plates..that small riffle on the right is a 22 caliber rifle fluted threaded barrel that can fit a silencer which are extremely easy to make.. this gear is very very easy to get a hold of..why the fuck do u think the term "Dont mess with Texas" comes from. lol its great right..
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4906/p1020014rr.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4906/p1020014rr.jpg)
same gasmask the army uses in recruit training
STALKER takes place in the Ukraine not the US. The US has a gun culture and lots of firearms manufacturers. The Ukraine does not. Army surplus stores exist, sure but what you'd find in them would be Russian surplus, NOT top end Eagle Industries CIRAS gear and EOtech Holosights. Which is the point I am making, that the ultra modern US gear that some players have been asspulling would be either too expensive or flat out not available.
$250 isn't a lot for a US citizen, it is a lot for a Ukranian. if you are in the Zone you are likely poor and can't afford that.
Quote from: JihadiAllah on 13-04-2010
You guys have apparently never been in Texas half this shit u can get at the local flee market i can buy "civilian" 203s that shoot 40mm flares and just buy the 40mm grenade shells and load them myself i have several tactical gear vests some of which are straight from the now aday military i bought each vest for maybe 20 bucks... lol yall really need to visit the south..
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8742/p1020013z.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8742/p1020013z.jpg)
that gun i nthe middle is a fully moded FAL bought the orriginal gun for 300 bucks and just simple bought quad rails and a sight for another 200 this shit is extremly cheap...Military surplus stores are very abundant and can get half this gear yall are saying is super expensive.. that vest they use in iraq? is like 250 bucks down the road at the store.. same exact vest..all is needed it steel plates..that small riffle on the right is a 22 caliber rifle fluted threaded barrel that can fit a silencer which are extremely easy to make.. this gear is very very easy to get a hold of..why the fuck do u think the term "Dont mess with Texas" comes from. lol its great right..
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4906/p1020014rr.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4906/p1020014rr.jpg)
same gasmask the army uses in recruit training
Have you ever played Stalker before?
This isnt texas RP.
As paint has just pointed out exactly, this stuff isnt available in the Ukraine!
Not to mention if it WAS smuggled in, it would cost a hell of alot more than the original price.
-sighs- FAIL JIHADI.. I'm sorry but think dude D: ... Texas is.. Well Texas. Of course they has shit tons of gunz <3. Btw! I like this idea.. It would be cool if a system was put in place.. Scavengers and craftsmen and shit.. I would love too be a craftsmen ^.^. And then there could be scavengers that go to the garbage and look through the old houses and the train yard and shit and look for parts and then can sell them to traders who can sell them to the Craftsmen or they could just sell right too them. Then people could come too the craftsmen and get there shit upgraded.. Give em your vest or whatever and they take it for a few minutes/hours/days depending on the upgrade and then he upgrades it with parts he got from salvagers or traders and then you give it back too the guy and get payed! :D.. Of course these upgrades won't come cheap aaaand there needs to be a list compiled of what can be made.. Maybe some of these engineers can also be tinkerers of whatever and they can invent new upgrades with salvage (Of course they would run it by admins) and it would be added to the list... Maybe one day it could be actually added. A flag.. Like.. Novice engineer, exp, vet, master and whatever else.. Considering they were in the games I'm sure.. And if not, who gives a damn? They had too be in the Zone somewhere. Some of the guns were made in the Zone. And then there could be parts that could have random spawns or whatever that could be salvaged and sold, which can then be used (Like I said) by engineers in an upgrade menu.. So yeah. My first idea pitch... Oh and HAI :D I'm kind of new if you didn't notice from my post count.. Heh.. >>
Proof that it can be done..! I was just messing around in the server.. This is what I came up with :D
: ** Lorein Honiah starts to rummage through the scrap.. Looking for possible salvage
Lorein Honiah rolls the dice, getting 51
** Lorein Honiah finds some scrap metal
Lorein Honiah: Ooo.. Looky here.
** Lorein Honiah pokes his head through the window, looking
for salvage
** Lorein Honiah rummages
Lorein Honiah rolls the dice, getting 36
: ** Lorein Honiah finds nothing of value
** Lorein Honiah sighs
Lorein Honiah: Ooh baby.. Nice.
** Lorein Honiah climbs into the bed of the truck**
Lorein Honiah looks over the bed for anything of value
Lorein Honiah rolls the dice, getting 88
** Lorein Honiah finds a few pieces of scrap metal
** Lorein Honiah pops the hood, looking for more parts
Lorein Honiah rolls the dice, getting 9
** Lorein Honiah finds nothing, the truck totally stripped of parts under the hood
Lorein Honiah: God damnit..
** Lorein Honiah pulls off the switch board on the generator,
looking for possible parts
Lorein Honiah rolls the dice, getting 18
** Lorein Honiah sighs, finding nothing
** Lorein Honiah searches for salvage
Lorein Honiah rolls the dice, getting 65
** Lorein Honiah finds some scrap metal
** Lorein Honiah Searches for salvage
Lorein Honiah rolls the dice, getting 85
** Lorein Honiah finds another piece of scrap metal and a piece of metal tubing
(Since I got a higher number I have myself two items.. I suppose it could be more then 80 could be two items, a perfect one hundred could be 3?)
Lorein Honiah: Awesome..
** Lorein Honiah works on the Makarov.. Adding a slightly extended barel
** Lorein Honiah smiles, picking up the modified weapon.. Happy with his work
Lorein Honiah | |HGN| Austin [LOOC]: Hmm.. Or maybe a roll could be done for actually modifing it as well...?
So yeah.. It's a roll of 50+ for trains/junks/etc. Each part can be salvaged once. If the car obviously has nothing under the hood then it can't be salvaged. Fully built things such as stoves etc are a 35 or 40+ chance.. I wasn't sure exactly.. And then actually applying the upgrade has to be done by a DESIGNATED engineer.. Who takes your equipment, takes the salvage needed and then upgrades it :3. Upgrading can of course be another roll but idk how it would be calculated.. Maybe it could be more than one roll depending on the upgrade/level of the engineer and then a certain number has too be reached.. So like.. An Exo suit upgrade may need like.. 250+. Obviously a rookie engineer can't get that because he can only roll one time. Get it?
That's good RP right there and a decent idea although I think rolling might be a little too much lol.
It's not the homemade mods that bother me it's the over the top stuff I've seen people with. Homemade, cobbled together stuff is fine although it would be nice if not every character knew how to make everything themselves.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 14-04-2010
That's good RP right there and a decent idea although I think rolling might be a little too much lol.
It's not the homemade mods that bother me it's the over the top stuff I've seen people with. Homemade, cobbled together stuff is fine although it would be nice if not every character knew how to make everything themselves.
Rolling just makes it so you don't get salvage everytime and don't succeed everytime.. Because you wouldn't if you think about it :\. And that's what I'm saying also.. Designated Engies.. You can't just make it yourself you have to hire someone who has a special flag too do it for you. It wouldn't be necessarily a full profession (Though it could be) but they would need the flag and need to know the upgrades, have the parts, etc.
lol i was just making a point this shit is not as hard as yall are saying i no its in the Ukraine..i udnerstand the fact about the uber gear the BlackWater group wouldnt even have just saying the gear is very simple to get ahold of anywhere in the world..an AK47 is a very very cheap gun to get ur hands on and so is many other guns why do you think the entire middle east have em lol the equipment is there and the shit u dont haft to smuggle AT ALL... nothing wrong with some "hiking equipment" im not obblivios to the fact it is ukraine i dont say or RP that i have uber gear as should noone lol and yes noone there on SRP should have Sights that cost more than most guns... and i do very agree with yall lol
Austin, if you would look in the garbage in the pile of metal, you would get irradiated as hell.
Quote from: lolKieck on 14-04-2010
Austin, if you would look in the garbage in the pile of metal, you would get irradiated as hell.
Very true.. And the Garbage would also have the best salvage.. So you would have to decide. Go to the garbage with either A. A suit or B. Some sort of radiation medication or C. Go search somewhere else. Salvaging should be dangerous, I shouldn't have too remind any of you that metal has the most residual radiation possible, therefore no matter what, it'll be difficulty to approach a broken down car without gear and medication etc. I was just more demonstrating.. I think it would be epic if one day a full system was put in place. ^^
Lol, I agree with this, unless you have shitloads of money and knowhow to get this shit more IC and maybe with Admin Allowing it you shouldn't have this stuff..