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Title: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Dark Scar on 25-06-2012
Hello fellow HGN members and staffer's alike, I would like to take a moment of your time today to present and idea which could be very a very good feature/script for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay;

This tool being PAC, or PAC 2 which is a tool allowing the player to customise himself for instance, giving himself a backpack, ammo pouches and so on. It would be a nice addition to STALKER because of all the things you will be able to accomplish with it such as if you brought a backpack for Sunrise or psz9d, you'll be able to add said item to your character which in my opinion is a lot better than writing out a giant description including backpacks, gas mask and so on which would add a lot more freedom for the players to express themselfs and make STALKER ROLEPLAY have more variety in the way people look.

Now most people who have been in HGN some time know that we did have said PAC tool once before and that it got abused, but with the new script (Radiationscript 3.3) it could be a possibility again if said tool were to be a flag like your tooltrust and phystrust but with a seperate application form you have to fill out.

Simply put PAC will be made application only and will NOT be included when you apply for TT/Phys trust, server side it will be a flag or whitelist so people who have no applied will not be able to use it, in the event it is abused on the server by an applicant their flags will be removed and they will be punished based on the severity of the abuse, such as giving yourself super armour or just plainly inappropriate things would most likely get them blacklisted from ever using the tool again and a strike.

The current administation team is more than capable at regulating the use of said tool and keeping people from abusing it as before with new systems of regulation and the ammount of staff avalible to keep an eye out.

If you would like to support this idea please give a green + Support in the comment's below.
If you don't like the idea please give a -Support in the comments below and a reason why if possible.

Thanks, Dark Scar.

Edit: Added some pictures for you to see, there is also a height changing feature.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493144415/716C45D981CE102F642EDE219F44E2495CA263D9/ (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493144415/716C45D981CE102F642EDE219F44E2495CA263D9/)

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493091190/9506EEB731F9B287B75089EF5C43E2593CD5119A/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493091190/9506EEB731F9B287B75089EF5C43E2593CD5119A/)

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493106345/D8E8B2332EB999073AA6BD146228D7207C09AD3C/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493106345/D8E8B2332EB999073AA6BD146228D7207C09AD3C/)

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493283394/1F6A44A45B49A9C68AD886ABC152FD4DCD53650A/ (http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493283394/1F6A44A45B49A9C68AD886ABC152FD4DCD53650A/)

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493497968/66108CD3B6A7C7500F8602C9C53E9A8D44DDBF07/ (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595848151493497968/66108CD3B6A7C7500F8602C9C53E9A8D44DDBF07/)






(Link to tool : http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=887940 (http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=887940))


Quote from: Last.Exile on 29-06-2012
We are now trialing pac on all servers. Go ahead and try out what you can create however some ground rules:

1. No content that we do not support this goes for:

Team fortress 2, Day of defeat, Portal.

2. Player sizes should match your character description! Also preferenced to "legit" playersizes.

3. Don't use too many props! Don't dress up like a whore with the full works, it's going to drag the server down with everything it's rendering.

4. Make sure what you have is realistic, nothing in mid-air or something that breaks the theme of the server you are on. This goes for weight of objects you are wearing, extra guns etc.

Failure to comply with these rules may loose you your pactrust, tooltrust or you may even be banned from the server entirely.

Admin code of conduct for PAC:

Warn
Warn
Warn
Remove TT
Ban


Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: TheAndyShandy on 25-06-2012
+Support

It seems to be a fairly simple tool to regulate, screwing around with it can be solved with some sort of whitelist system.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Iam333 on 25-06-2012
+support

As long as its not going to be abused and punishment is gonna be big enough if they will pull shit out.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Gokiller on 25-06-2012
Sounds good to me :)
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Ari on 25-06-2012
"Where did you get the bushes for those ghillie suits?"
"We tore them from the ground."

+support for the idea of it, though it's been around for quite a while and I'm sure there are tons of reasons why it's a shitty idea.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: BAMF! on 25-06-2012
+ Support

Looking like a badass without the description. Woo
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: nKe on 25-06-2012
Sounds good.
+support
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Paralyzed on 25-06-2012
+support

Sounds really good!
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Kelse on 25-06-2012
I'm nothing special on S.T.A.L.K.E.R. not an admin, a player, or even a forum reader but I'm trying to change that and start playing there, I also see no problem with this, so +SUPPORT
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Lent23 on 25-06-2012
Am I late to the party?
+Suppurt
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: CC on 25-06-2012
Sounds like a pretty neat idea, I support this all the way; As long as people don't go overboard with it, of course.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: StickyWicket on 25-06-2012
Remove their tooltrust if they act like retards.


+Support
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Archangel94 on 25-06-2012
Could make it an application thingy for it.


+ support
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Rebel6609 on 25-06-2012
Well Shiiiiit.

+Support
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: KingArthur on 25-06-2012
We had this before, people just put penises on themselves.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: deluxulous on 25-06-2012
Needs to be heavily regulated. Other than that, I'm behind it.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: KingArthur on 25-06-2012
Litterally, you need to make a rule: ANY one caught ONCE oocly messing around with anything stupid, it is removed and you need to reapply.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: meetdadoom on 25-06-2012
Quote from: KingArthur on 25-06-2012
We had this before, people just put penises on themselves.

Wait didn't we have it and had like a huge amount of people wearing guile suits?
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Vladimir Frost on 25-06-2012
Support, This would be a very nice addition to STALKER. It would allow for much smaller descriptions are no descriptions at all and force players to be more observational of players.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Plunger on 25-06-2012
Everyone just makes shitty ghille suits and adds guns they don't have to themselves.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Khorn on 25-06-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 25-06-2012
Everyone just makes shitty ghille suits and adds guns they don't have to themselves.

Yea, strict regulation of the tool wont help one bit, it's just bound to fail. I mean, Plunger knows all about admins that can't keep up with abuse.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: INA7HAN on 26-06-2012
+support
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: jaik on 26-06-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 25-06-2012
Everyone just makes shitty ghille suits and adds guns they don't have to themselves.

It's true. PAC doesn't improve anything in terms of character development(implying anyone cares about it).
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Dark Scar on 26-06-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 25-06-2012
Everyone just makes shitty ghille suits and adds guns they don't have to themselves.

And the people who make ghillie suits or gives themselves weapons will have their flags removed and possibly blacklisted depending on what they added to their character unless if they have a real good reason on how they obtained it and with purchase proof but Ghillie suits and cyber armour ect will be a no no;

For instance if someone gave themselves a ghilliesuit and a SVD they will face their flags removed and blacklisted from using the tool.

All the stuff which people add to their character will be checked upon so that said items are not 'asspulled', for instance if you buy a backpack you'll be able to add a backpack to your character or you buy other items from a trader you'll be able to add them to your character depending on their positioning if it's realistic or not and whether or not you got a technician to add them there.

Quote from: Khorn on 25-06-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 25-06-2012
Everyone just makes shitty ghille suits and adds guns they don't have to themselves.

Yea, strict regulation of the tool wont help one bit, it's just bound to fail. I mean, Plunger knows all about admins that can't keep up with abuse.

Why won't strict regulation help? We'll most likely blacklist people who are prone to messing about and/or have a strike against their name. And on that note I'm fully sure the STALKER admin team are able to keep up with abuse as we do have a good ammount of staff avalible, the only reason the tool was abused last time was because lack of rules on the use and the ability for admins to blacklist people from using the tool as it was a part of Phystrust/tooltrust back on cakescript.

Quote from: Jake on 26-06-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 25-06-2012
Everyone just makes shitty ghille suits and adds guns they don't have to themselves.

It's true. PAC doesn't improve anything in terms of character development(implying anyone cares about it).

That depends on the way you look at it, it would fit nicely with Exile's technician idea about suit upgrades and so on, you give a technician 3,000 rubles to add a series of pouches on the front of your sunrise and a few other adjustments. It will enable more IC item purchasing from traders such as backpacks and pouches which in turn can be taken to a technician to be attached to your suit and give the player a reason to have said model on their character.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Vortigoat on 26-06-2012
I like the idea if it's not going get abused. And Jake, Why is the server down...  :'(  4th GVC
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: jaik on 26-06-2012
Quote from: Vortigoat on 26-06-2012
I like the idea if it's not going get abused. And Jake, Why is the server down...  :'(  4th GVC

We're updating the rule sets of the community/server and the code right now, sorry. It will most likely be up tonight, I presume.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Khorn on 26-06-2012
Quote from: Dark Scar on 26-06-2012

Quote from: Khorn on 25-06-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 25-06-2012
Everyone just makes shitty ghille suits and adds guns they don't have to themselves.

Yea, strict regulation of the tool wont help one bit, it's just bound to fail. I mean, Plunger knows all about admins that can't keep up with abuse.

Why won't strict regulation help? We'll most likely blacklist people who are prone to messing about and/or have a strike against their name. And on that note I'm fully sure the STALKER admin team are able to keep up with abuse as we do have a good ammount of staff avalible, the only reason the tool was abused last time was because lack of rules on the use and the ability for admins to blacklist people from using the tool as it was a part of Phystrust/tooltrust back on cakescript.



I was just joking.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Silver Knight on 29-06-2012
We are now trialing pac on all servers. Go ahead and try out what you can create however some ground rules:

1. No content that we do not support this goes for:

Team fortress 2, Day of defeat, Portal.

2. Player sizes should match your character description! Also preferenced to "legit" playersizes.

3. Don't use too many props! Don't dress up like a whore with the full works, it's going to drag the server down with everything it's rendering.

4. Make sure what you have is realistic, nothing in mid-air or something that breaks the theme of the server you are on. This goes for weight of objects you are wearing, extra guns etc.

Failure to comply with these rules may loose you your pactrust, tooltrust or you may even be banned from the server entirely.

Admin code of conduct for PAC:

Warn
Warn
Warn
Remove TT
Ban

Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: KingArthur on 29-06-2012
and so the penises begin. Pac would have been useful for Crussaria >.>
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Lent23 on 29-06-2012
Quote from: KingArthur on 29-06-2012
and so the penises begin. Pac would have been useful for Crussaria >.>
First thing Silver did when testing PAC :c
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Paintcheck on 29-06-2012
Quote from: Vladimir Frost on 25-06-2012
Support, This would be a very nice addition to STALKER. It would allow for much smaller descriptions are no descriptions at all and force players to be more observational of players.

Are you related to that kid with the unreadable dark blue text?

This resulted in disaster however many years ago it was when we tried it the first time. Suddenly "I totally have this custom G36 with an SVD bolted to it, see look at my player model!" and shitty ghille suits everywhere.

But I don't play on SRP nor plan to any time soon so I guess I don't care.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: SGT-Spartans on 30-06-2012
(https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1109.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh439%2FSGT-Spartans%2FBackpack.jpg&hash=6bf7a38dfce83fa94812be6e5d0fd4d9e56d31b5)


Successful PAC attempt. Thanks Silver!

(https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1109.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh439%2FSGT-Spartans%2FFreedom.jpg&hash=f652bf3fe7af54f0b0331e176f163f9f4d356cac)

PAC has alot of finnicky buttons, so I think it would be good to have it so people need to read a tutorial to use it.

Like, you can really fuck up your character. And the map.




Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: jaik on 30-06-2012
Why is there a black guy wearing hl2 citizen clothes? My poor SRP :(
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Knife_cz on 30-06-2012
Quote from: Jake on 30-06-2012
Why is there a black guy wearing hl2 citizen clothes? My poor SRP :(
Must be Jesus. (According to the light around his head)
And why did you pointed out he's black, thats racist :o
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Pawx on 30-06-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 30-06-2012
And why did you pointed out he's black, thats racist
out he's black, thats racist
black, thats racist
racist


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Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: nKe on 30-06-2012
Suddenly, Pawx
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: SGT-Spartans on 30-06-2012
Quote from: Jake on 30-06-2012
Why is there a black guy wearing hl2 citizen clothes? My poor SRP :(




Someone clicked Random Part instead of Part.


Like I said, we really need a tutorial up, or else people will be merging their bones and screaming for admin help
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Kelse on 30-06-2012
PAC has been breaking my game and crashing me, I can join any other server NP.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Khorn on 30-06-2012
Quote from: Kelse on 30-06-2012
PAC has been breaking my game and crashing me, I can join any other server NP.

You sure it's PAC and not the fact servers were down just now, or maybe something else?
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Kelse on 30-06-2012
Quote from: Khorn on 30-06-2012
Quote from: Kelse on 30-06-2012
PAC has been breaking my game and crashing me, I can join any other server NP.

You sure it's PAC and not the fact servers were down just now, or maybe something else?

I'm sure it is because it didn't happen before PAC, infact I maybe crashed 2-3 times before joining then when PAC was put on the servers I keep crashing at random intervals.
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: lolKieck on 01-07-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 30-06-2012
Suddenly, Pawx
Oh no, rookies, hide your starting money!
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Pawx on 01-07-2012
Quote from: lolKieck on 01-07-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 30-06-2012
Suddenly, Pawx
Oh no, rookies, hide your starting money!

Oh, You think I would actually go on SRP? HAHAHA...wait....Your serious aren't you?
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: jaik on 01-07-2012
Quote from: Pawx on 01-07-2012
Quote from: lolKieck on 01-07-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 30-06-2012
Suddenly, Pawx
Oh no, rookies, hide your starting money!

Oh, You think I would actually go on SRP? HAHAHA...wait....Your serious aren't you?

You Serious? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4#ws)
Title: Re: Player appearance customiser like system for S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay
Post by: Silver Knight on 01-07-2012
Quote from: Pawx on 01-07-2012
Quote from: lolKieck on 01-07-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 30-06-2012
Suddenly, Pawx
Oh no, rookies, hide your starting money!

Oh, You think I would actually go on SRP? HAHAHA...wait....Your serious aren't you?

Yes, get on the server.