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Title: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Dark Scar on 23-11-2010
Ok, Haven members, WE DIED, you have no reason to set up ambushes using META'D information, Grey March has died twice infact thus from Duty and you lot so give it a rest... take it back to a state that both our groups are normal and don't know each other, ok?



-PS We are getting sick of the constant raids or whatnot that's why.
Move this if its in the wrong section.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Sharrock on 23-11-2010
My face it has this reaction, Oh yeah, the don't give a shit reaction.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Predu on 23-11-2010
You know that we are dead, or injured, for some reason you know that we are around, and attack us for some strange, possibly METAd information. This is something you should care about, METAing is breaking a rule.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Blackflunk on 23-11-2010
Uhm, YOU meta'd, how come you JUST took off the armband, when you saw us OOCly saying that we were going to raid ya': So get ready. We didn't meta, you guys basicly ran around to diffrent locations. So, stop complaining, we did this for IC reasons.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Pawx on 23-11-2010
Question, are you guys even Factions?

http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/player-based-groups/playerbased-groups-info-an-official-groups-app/msg92194/#new (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/player-based-groups/playerbased-groups-info-an-official-groups-app/msg92194/#new)

Since your not even on the Roster as a Playerbase Group...
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Khorn on 23-11-2010
They don't need to be on any list to have a group. The boards are just there for boards. If people want to band together, they can.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Pawx on 23-11-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 23-11-2010
They don't need to be on any list to have a group. The boards are just there for boards. If people want to band together, they can.

Ah, Thanks, Your the first person to answer a question of mine without Flaming me.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Dark Scar on 23-11-2010
Sharrock, If you don't have anything good to say, leave now.

And Blackfunk, we did not have 'Armbands' to begin with and you dident say anything via OOC about it, just mocking our group then walking off to destory our base.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Dark Scar on 23-11-2010
"Because we are suppose to attack bandits. If you are telling me Duty should let a bandit group STK the fuck out of everyone in S3 or any other sector to lol loot them, then by all means you can take Duty lead.

Right, you are obviously not seeing the whole picture, we DONT 'STK the fuck out of everyone in S3" and we certainly don't "lol loot them" we use RP in our killings and looting, we don't run and grab stuff from corpses either.


I wont say any further, im just clearing up the details.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Turkey on 23-11-2010
Seriously heaven needs to fuck off. They chased down One of your members without an armband and started asking him questions at gun point. Stop metagaming
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: whyku on 23-11-2010
I love how the other post was locked so you made this one

link to other http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-cordon/ok-duty!/ (ftp://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-cordon/ok-duty!/)


. Its easy to let info out you guys need to deal with that or not talk as much. And it does not people when people ask what G.M you say you don't need to know.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Pawx on 23-11-2010
Quote from: whyku on 23-11-2010
I love how the other post was locked so you made this one

link to other http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-cordon/ok-duty!/ (ftp://www.forums.hypergamer.net/the-cordon/ok-duty!/)

Both Posts were made by different people and at the same time, not because it was locked, Read Time More...

« on: Today at 11:57 AM »
« on: Today at 11:21 AM »

Derp
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: whyku on 23-11-2010
I was trying to tell you that you should not move to a different post about the same topic its locked don't have to a post about the same thing its locked because the topic is over.

You should try to understand what am saying more. Then picking at the details yes I could have been more clear.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Bucky on 23-11-2010
You guys DO realize that people can be recognized upon facial recognition, voice similarities, the way they speak, they way they do things. It wouldn't be hard to recognize the same person just because they took their armband/patch off, they may have a uniqueness to them or something that makes them stand out. Just because you remove and article of clothing does not make you "disguised". Furthermore with barely any other bandits on that day and HALF the server looking for you, you could have been extremely easy to find. Also, you saying that you have NEVER seen Haven and Duty is completely false. I recall an occasion that was oh, what? Yesterday where we killed you all at the construction site where Haven and Duty met up to kill you.

Whats said is said and whats done is done. Deal with it, it was fair RP, nothing is going to change what was already happened. A tip, next time try to be more low key.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: whyku on 23-11-2010
Quote from: Bucky on 23-11-2010
You guys DO realize that people can be recognized upon facial recognition, voice similarities, the way they speak, they way they do things. It wouldn't be hard to recognize the same person just because they took their armband/patch off, they may have a uniqueness to them or something that makes them stand out. Just because you remove and article of clothing does not make you "disguised". Furthermore with barely any other bandits on that day and HALF the server looking for you, you could have been extremely easy to find. Also, you saying that you have NEVER seen Haven and Duty is completely false. I recall an occasion that was oh, what? Yesterday where we killed you all at the construction site where Haven and Duty met up to kill you.

Whats said is said and whats done is done. Deal with it, it was fair RP, nothing is going to change what was already happened. A tip, next time try to be more low key.


Agree^
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Khorn on 23-11-2010
I'm sorry Whyku, but trying to decipher what you say is very difficult. I generally only get like half of what you say. The rest I have to fill in on my own.


I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say that.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Dark Scar on 23-11-2010
"
You guys DO realize that people can be recognized upon facial recognition, voice similarities, the way they speak, they way they do things. It wouldn't be hard to recognize the same person just because they took their armband/patch off, they may have a uniqueness to them or something that makes them stand out. Just because you remove and article of clothing does not make you "disguised". Furthermore with barely any other bandits on that day and HALF the server looking for you, you could have been extremely easy to find. Also, you saying that you have NEVER seen Haven and Duty is completely false. I recall an occasion that was oh, what? Yesterday where we killed you all at the construction site where Haven and Duty met up to kill you.

Whats said is said and whats done is done. Deal with it, it was fair RP, nothing is going to change what was already happened. A tip, next time try to be more low key"

Thats the thing Buck, we died, but Haven still insist on attacking us or setting up ambushes
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Bucky on 23-11-2010
Thats because YOU insisted on robbing and killing  stalkers.

The point is that its The Havens job to protect Stalkers, hence their name. Same with Duty, aslong as you rob, murder, steal, or kidnap Duty and The Haven will be up your ass. Such is the way of life.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Dark Scar on 24-11-2010
"Thats because YOU insisted on robbing and killing  stalkers.

The point is that its The Havens job to protect Stalkers, hence their name. Same with Duty, aslong as you rob, murder, steal, or kidnap Duty and The Haven will be up your ass. Such is the way of life."

Would be nice if they actually used IC ways of getting to us, not Meta gaming

Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Gokiller on 24-11-2010
Neshy is right. All i want to know is how did you get that Info IC. For sure all of are group allways kills people they rob. We have only robbed/killed about 2-3 stalkers. Soo the info you got must have been Meta'ed.
UNLESS UNLESS
Their was a stalker watching but that is very unlikly due to we all ways look around.!
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Blake.H on 24-11-2010
This tread isnt going anywhere. Sort it out - this topic gets locking in 48 hours.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: lolKieck on 24-11-2010
Quote from: Longlostblake on 24-11-2010
This tread isnt going anywhere. Sort it out - this topic gets locking in 48 hours.
In SF of course.
You should get somebody neutral to be an arbiter though.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Bucky on 24-11-2010
As I have said before and has Blake said
Quote from: Longlostblake on 24-11-2010
This tread isnt going anywhere. Sort it out.
I think you should just deal with the consequences of being a bandit and chill.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Knife_cz on 24-11-2010
In this week we didnt robbed anyone,and when we came outside the tunnel from S3 you haven were been there,on roof behind rocks,can you please fucking tell me where the hell how can  you get information we were been there?and please whyku fuck off,you are still mad cause you were banned by us,so gtfo,idk where you got that info we are bandits,yes we are,but we never told it to anyone,only ppl who knows is are GM members,and i guess noone from them said it.and yesterday how you killed SILENCE was pretty unfair,he joined like 20 mins ago before you killed us in that warehouse,impossible to see him with us before,he could be some random stalker.lock it if you want,i dont give a shit.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Blackflunk on 24-11-2010
Quote from: Bucky on 23-11-2010
You guys DO realize that people can be recognized upon facial recognition, voice similarities, the way they speak, they way they do things. It wouldn't be hard to recognize the same person just because they took their armband/patch off, they may have a uniqueness to them or something that makes them stand out. Just because you remove and article of clothing does not make you "disguised". Furthermore with barely any other bandits on that day and HALF the server looking for you, you could have been extremely easy to find. Also, you saying that you have NEVER seen Haven and Duty is completely false. I recall an occasion that was oh, what? Yesterday where we killed you all at the construction site where Haven and Duty met up to kill you.

Whats said is said and whats done is done. Deal with it, it was fair RP, nothing is going to change what was already happened. A tip, next time try to be more low key.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Blackflunk on 24-11-2010
Quote from: GoKiller on 24-11-2010
Neshy is right. All i want to know is how did you get that Info IC. For sure all of are group allways kills people they rob. We have only robbed/killed about 2-3 stalkers. Soo the info you got must have been Meta'ed.
UNLESS UNLESS
Their was a stalker watching but that is very unlikly due to we all ways look around.!

Just to mention, we didn't meta, not at all. We obviously had no idear where they were, untill we saw them running. They metagamed, they knew exactly when we were gonna come, as we disgussed it OOCly.

This thread is meaningless, "Haven helps Stalkers in the zone" Yes, we do. And, WE got told that GM robbed them, etc.
We got complaints about lots of people ICly, that GM is robbing them etc. , so stop complaining about getting killed by haven and duty. Now, problem solved, we got it straight in that way.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: N3gativezero on 24-11-2010
One of the side effects of being a bandit is that people will tend to metagame, and factions will tend to ROFLstomp you. If you can't deal with those, don't be a bandit.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Gokiller on 25-11-2010
Quote from: N3gativezero on 24-11-2010
One of the side effects of being a bandit is that people will tend to metagame, and factions will tend to ROFLstomp you. If you can't deal with those, don't be a bandit.

That is very True.!
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Turkey on 25-11-2010
Quote from: GoKiller on 25-11-2010
Quote from: N3gativezero on 24-11-2010
One of the side effects of being a bandit is that people will tend to metagame, and factions will tend to ROFLstomp you. If you can't deal with those, don't be a bandit.

That is very True.!

This this.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Khorn on 25-11-2010
You guys haven't figured that out yet?

The scoreboard in general causes metagaming.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Cutch on 25-11-2010
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Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Joemoma on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 25-11-2010
You guys haven't figured that out yet?

The scoreboard in general causes metagaming.

       Metagaming is everywhere, trust me, the server would be plenty better off without it, but it's a fact of the game, truth is though, people have to grow a pair and do things for themselves instead of holding tab and looking at who's on. And might I ask how one is informed that someone else is a robber when they haven't robbed anyone in quite awhile...?
       It's called metagaming, it's an issue, people, grow a fucking pair, and do things the right way instead of taking every little shortcut you can, the only real reason the scoreboard exists is so you can know: How many people are on, whether an enemy faction has enough players for a conflict, if anyone you know is on whom you would like to PASSIVE RP with, anything hostile would be considered Meta, however going into OOC to begin a passive RP around a campfire isn't a bad thing, mostly, Metagaming is good or bad, depending on the situation, but normally, it's bad, so think before you act, I lost my first, most well-developed character because two people walked around on their normal STALKERs, than got on their Mercenary characters, walked right on over to where they were before, and shot me for 20K, thus creating a PK. Metagaming in any way, shape, or form is a waste of time and energy, and ruins the game for others, remember, we're not here for personal gain, but to have some god damn fun.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: andrewhatesyou on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Joemoma on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 25-11-2010
You guys haven't figured that out yet?

The scoreboard in general causes metagaming.

       Metagaming is everywhere, trust me, the server would be plenty better off without it, but it's a fact of the game, truth is though, people have to grow a pair and do things for themselves instead of holding tab and looking at who's on. And might I ask how one is informed that someone else is a robber when they haven't robbed anyone in quite awhile...?
       It's called metagaming, it's an issue, people, grow a fucking pair, and do things the right way instead of taking every little shortcut you can, the only real reason the scoreboard exists is so you can know: How many people are on, whether an enemy faction has enough players for a conflict, if anyone you know is on whom you would like to PASSIVE RP with, anything hostile would be considered Meta, however going into OOC to begin a passive RP around a campfire isn't a bad thing, mostly, Metagaming is good or bad, depending on the situation, but normally, it's bad, so think before you act, I lost my first, most well-developed character because two people walked around on their normal STALKERs, than got on their Mercenary characters, walked right on over to where they were before, and shot me for 20K, thus creating a PK. Metagaming in any way, shape, or form is a waste of time and energy, and ruins the game for others, remember, we're not here for personal gain, but to have some god damn fun.

All those commas. MY EYES!
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Cutch on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Joemoma on 27-11-2010

       Metagaming is everywhere, trust me, the server would be plenty better off without it, but it's a fact of the game, truth is though, people have to grow a pair and do things for themselves instead of holding tab and looking at who's on. And might I ask how one is informed that someone else is a robber when they haven't robbed anyone in quite awhile...?
       It's called metagaming, it's an issue, people, grow a fucking pair, and do things the right way instead of taking every little shortcut you can, the only real reason the scoreboard exists is so you can know: How many people are on, whether an enemy faction has enough players for a conflict, if anyone you know is on whom you would like to PASSIVE RP with, anything hostile would be considered Meta, however going into OOC to begin a passive RP around a campfire isn't a bad thing, mostly, Metagaming is good or bad, depending on the situation, but normally, it's bad, so think before you act, I lost my first, most well-developed character because two people walked around on their normal STALKERs, than got on their Mercenary characters, walked right on over to where they were before, and shot me for 20K, thus creating a PK. Metagaming in any way, shape, or form is a waste of time and energy, and ruins the game for others, remember, we're not here for personal gain, but to have some god damn fun.
Someone apparently failed in English class...
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Pawx on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Cutch on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Joemoma on 27-11-2010

       Metagaming is everywhere, trust me, the server would be plenty better off without it, but it's a fact of the game, truth is though, people have to grow a pair and do things for themselves instead of holding tab and looking at who's on. And might I ask how one is informed that someone else is a robber when they haven't robbed anyone in quite awhile...?
       It's called metagaming, it's an issue, people, grow a fucking pair, and do things the right way instead of taking every little shortcut you can, the only real reason the scoreboard exists is so you can know: How many people are on, whether an enemy faction has enough players for a conflict, if anyone you know is on whom you would like to PASSIVE RP with, anything hostile would be considered Meta, however going into OOC to begin a passive RP around a campfire isn't a bad thing, mostly, Metagaming is good or bad, depending on the situation, but normally, it's bad, so think before you act, I lost my first, most well-developed character because two people walked around on their normal STALKERs, than got on their Mercenary characters, walked right on over to where they were before, and shot me for 20K, thus creating a PK. Metagaming in any way, shape, or form is a waste of time and energy, and ruins the game for others, remember, we're not here for personal gain, but to have some god damn fun.
Someone apparently failed in English class...

You shouldn't talk Cutch, I've seen plenty of your Posts, TERRIBLE. Who cares about Grammar over the Internet? It's not like were here to impress Harvard, But really, to impress a 10 year old kid sitting at home.

Now Post something useful, if not, Get the fuck out.

Taylor does have a point though, the Scoreboard is usually used for Metagaming by alot of Factions...
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Khorn on 27-11-2010
We could make the score board shows just players online, not their current character.

If you want to know who they play as or how many factioners are on, you could always use SF. Or OOC, then be yelled at.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: lolKieck on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Pawx on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Cutch on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Joemoma on 27-11-2010

       Metagaming is everywhere, trust me, the server would be plenty better off without it, but it's a fact of the game, truth is though, people have to grow a pair and do things for themselves instead of holding tab and looking at who's on. And might I ask how one is informed that someone else is a robber when they haven't robbed anyone in quite awhile...?
       It's called metagaming, it's an issue, people, grow a fucking pair, and do things the right way instead of taking every little shortcut you can, the only real reason the scoreboard exists is so you can know: How many people are on, whether an enemy faction has enough players for a conflict, if anyone you know is on whom you would like to PASSIVE RP with, anything hostile would be considered Meta, however going into OOC to begin a passive RP around a campfire isn't a bad thing, mostly, Metagaming is good or bad, depending on the situation, but normally, it's bad, so think before you act, I lost my first, most well-developed character because two people walked around on their normal STALKERs, than got on their Mercenary characters, walked right on over to where they were before, and shot me for 20K, thus creating a PK. Metagaming in any way, shape, or form is a waste of time and energy, and ruins the game for others, remember, we're not here for personal gain, but to have some god damn fun.
Someone apparently failed in English class...

You shouldn't talk Cutch, I've seen plenty of your Posts, TERRIBLE. Who cares about Grammar over the Internet? It's not like were here to impress Harvard, But really, to impress a 10 year old kid sitting at home.

Now Post something useful, if not, Get the fuck out.

Taylor does have a point though, the Scoreboard is usually used for Metagaming by alot of Factions...
1. Cutch, learn to troll. That ain't even funny.
2. Cheating is in the nature of man, there's no way to stop some guy from metagaming. How Taylor stated, metagame follows everything everywhere.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Sharrock on 27-11-2010
Just going to point out the only people bothering to post seriously in here are people i have gladly pissed off and will continue to do so.
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Khorn on 27-11-2010
You pissed me off? When?
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Turkey on 28-11-2010
Quote from: lolKieck on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Pawx on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Cutch on 27-11-2010
Quote from: Joemoma on 27-11-2010

       Metagaming is everywhere, trust me, the server would be plenty better off without it, but it's a fact of the game, truth is though, people have to grow a pair and do things for themselves instead of holding tab and looking at who's on. And might I ask how one is informed that someone else is a robber when they haven't robbed anyone in quite awhile...?
       It's called metagaming, it's an issue, people, grow a fucking pair, and do things the right way instead of taking every little shortcut you can, the only real reason the scoreboard exists is so you can know: How many people are on, whether an enemy faction has enough players for a conflict, if anyone you know is on whom you would like to PASSIVE RP with, anything hostile would be considered Meta, however going into OOC to begin a passive RP around a campfire isn't a bad thing, mostly, Metagaming is good or bad, depending on the situation, but normally, it's bad, so think before you act, I lost my first, most well-developed character because two people walked around on their normal STALKERs, than got on their Mercenary characters, walked right on over to where they were before, and shot me for 20K, thus creating a PK. Metagaming in any way, shape, or form is a waste of time and energy, and ruins the game for others, remember, we're not here for personal gain, but to have some god damn fun.
Someone apparently failed in English class...

You shouldn't talk Cutch, I've seen plenty of your Posts, TERRIBLE. Who cares about Grammar over the Internet? It's not like were here to impress Harvard, But really, to impress a 10 year old kid sitting at home.

Now Post something useful, if not, Get the fuck out.

Taylor does have a point though, the Scoreboard is usually used for Metagaming by alot of Factions...
1. Cutch, learn to troll. That ain't even funny.
2. Cheating is in the nature of man, there's no way to stop some guy from metagaming. How Taylor stated, metagame follows everything everywhere.

gte on tupic. Srsly you gais r not on tupic i will report you to tom this is a tupic about mother fucking heaven not ur ouwn personul dickarounds\


Seriously though, Why does every topic end with somebody going into this massive offtopic debate. They should have stricter rules about that



((User was banned for this post: Hypocrite))
Title: Re: Ok, lets get this Straight
Post by: Tom on 28-11-2010
This thread. . . It was started as flame, and it ended as flame/trolling.

What did we learn?

That posting this sort of thing on the forums is a VERY bad idea, instead take it up with an admin and keep proof of who you killed or something. I know from experience, anything that is posted on the forum that is a server issue that has to do with player always end in the following.

1) The person accused of ((Crime here)) starts Flaming the people who are accusing him. (Which has happened here)
2) Random ass people who where not involved flaming and getting involved, Once again has happened here
3) The OP makes the post RIGHT after the incident and makes it seem flamish and ends up getting flamed. (Which has happened here)
4) It is ultimately dismissed due to lack of proof. (Which has happened here)
5) And on rare occasion something is done. But there is lack of proof here.

So Grey march, You now know, if you bandit, Bandit in moderation and be sure to keep a record of who you kill, and people who "Find out about said robberies" Be sure to keep tabs on who it came from.

Also did I forget to mention that posting shit like this is a very bad idea for the reasons stated above?

Also the first time you died was cause people thought you where banditing/ripping folks off, so Me being a bandit went with Sharrock and anouther stalker in hopes of getting loot, Which I did, I got GM's loot and Sharrocks loot AND the other stalkers loot. So it made sense for me to fight, therefore No one knew about GM's "Banditry" after that cause all parties, cept my bandit died. The second incedent was due to you guys robbing folks, so on reports from stalkers, duty came up, THEN the rest of the server rolled up as well.