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Title: NPC Arena fights
Post by: armyguy on 14-07-2010
My idea is to use NPC for fights in the arena
http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=99808 (http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=99808)
All you need to do is before a fight add a prop or two add one or two NPCs
If you win you get cash if you if you don't you die
And if you use mutant NPCs (all i know of are snork NPCs) you can do a player vs mutant
You can go up vs more NPCs for more cash or one or two players can go vs NPCs
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: RG4ORDR on 14-07-2010
:V my Duty and Freedom Soldiers shoot at Freedom and Duty exos
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Khorn on 14-07-2010
NPCs won't prove to be a good fight, it would end so quickly.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Monkeyfisker on 14-07-2010
Not to mention they'd shoot at the players :s
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Pawx on 14-07-2010
Quote from: Monkeyfisker on 14-07-2010
Not to mention they'd shoot at the players :s

I'm pretty sure there SUPPOSED to shoot at the player? Or it wouldn't be a fight :/
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: deluxulous on 14-07-2010
Quote from: Pawx on 14-07-2010
Quote from: Monkeyfisker on 14-07-2010
Not to mention they'd shoot at the players :s

I'm pretty sure there SUPPOSED to shoot at the player? Or it wouldn't be a fight :/

The spectators are who he meant.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Ping-Pong on 14-07-2010
Quote from: PistolKid on 14-07-2010
Quote from: Pawx on 14-07-2010
Quote from: Monkeyfisker on 14-07-2010
Not to mention they'd shoot at the players :s

I'm pretty sure there SUPPOSED to shoot at the player? Or it wouldn't be a fight :/

The spectators are who he meant.

We are the spectators, the NPC's can't see through walls... The place were we observe is a walled off area as to where NPC's cannot see.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Turkey on 14-07-2010
Yeah, THis is a good idea.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Ping-Pong on 14-07-2010
We really need this, I want this. NOW.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Ravanger on 14-07-2010
Sounds interesting. May give the arena a nice thing too do with less edrama. I think people can still go in and fight them to earn money and such but we dont have to worry about loseing shit and what not.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: deluxulous on 14-07-2010
It's just an excuse to grind money easily. The NPC's probably won't even do anything, they'll just sit there until it "sees" someone. And by then, the player will have fucked his face inside out with whatever gun he/she is using because they have no armor. Oh, and we'd have to make some NPC guns too.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Pawx on 14-07-2010
Actually, There's a script that makes the NPC roam around it's enviroment, the Roleplay NPC's have this certain Script. We could always script the NPC's to roam, not a easy task, but still pretty neat to try.

On the other hand, it will probably have ALOT of bugs followed with it, and will kill RP to the most possible, where all the players will be at the arena, as Pistol said, 'Grinding Money'.

The hardest part about this happening, Exile Agreeing to this.

http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=19608 (http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=19608)
-The scripted RP NPC's that roam.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Nova on 15-07-2010
Quote from: PistolKid on 14-07-2010
It's just an excuse to grind money easily. The NPC's probably won't even do anything, they'll just sit there until it "sees" someone. And by then, the player will have fucked his face inside out with whatever gun he/she is using because they have no armor. Oh, and we'd have to make some NPC guns too.

True, I have this Stalker NPC pack, and they won't even start shooting the player, unless he get's within 10 meters of them. And if they are equipped with shotguns, they won't start shooting until you standing right up in their face
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Steel on 15-07-2010
Just concentrate on the RP?
We dont need this.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Pawx on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-07-2010
Just concentrate on the RP?
We dont need this.

Just cause we can RP doesn't mean we can't have nice things.

For Example, We have guns, but we don't need it, cause we have RP. We use props to make bases, but we don't need it, we have RP. See where I'm going here?

Not everything is RP, Items and Features also take role.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Steel on 15-07-2010
Yes, and we dont need NPC's for you to all shoot up when your bored, and for the admins to clear the mess up after.
Weapons, props etc YOU CAN RP WITH, NPCS YOU CANNOT RP WITH.

See where im going here?
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Pawx on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-07-2010
Yes, and we dont need NPC's for you to all shoot up when your bored, and for the admins to clear the mess up after.
Weapons, props etc YOU CAN RP WITH, NPCS YOU CANNOT RP WITH.

See where im going here?


NPC's aren't ment for Roleplay, as I said, not Everything is Roleplay. Cutting down features like this will just make the Playerbase weaken, and that means, less RP.

Do YOU see where I'm going here?
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Steel on 15-07-2010
And you obviously didnt read my first point.
Players will just leave bodies of NPC's everywhere, its pointless.

If you want to fight, you fight each other.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Roleplay, ever read the title?
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Pawx on 15-07-2010
Actaully, They disappear after a short while, If scripted, so no bodies.

Fighting each other leads to Flaming and RDM. I'm mostly tired of that.

And half the time, I don't even think it's STALKER RP, Since I saw a Alien attack Event and Monolith's entering bases, going "Greetings Stalker". And half the things that go on in the Server isn't even RP. I still like to play on the Server and all, just that things are going nuts with canon, sorry to go off topic and all...

Now, I see no reason to Argue any further, since Exile will probably never accept this.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Steel on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Pawx on 15-07-2010
And half the time, I don't even think it's STALKER RP, Since I saw a Alien attack Event and Monolith's entering bases, going "Greetings Stalker". And half the things that go on in the Server isn't even RP. I still like to play on the Server and all, just that things are going nuts with canon, sorry to go off topic and all...


That coming from an exo bearing bandit who has an entire french family in the zone. Well done there Pawx. Your just as bad with the Canon, and as for the flaming? If you read the new rules... you abide by them, its STK now permantly, so people should know what to expect, its people like you that bitch and whine when loosing items.

End.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Pawx on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-07-2010

That coming from an exo bearing bandit who has an entire french family in the zone.

You know when they lost the argument when they use this against me, Originality, I think not, use a better excuse besides my characters and my Exo which I put months of hard work to get, but to only get flamed by a guy that left his adminding Responsiblity cause the RP wasn't to good for him. GG

The Real. End.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Steel on 15-07-2010
Hey, you was the one blabbing on about Canon, and your far from it kid.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Pawx on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-07-2010
Hey, you was the one blabbing on about Canon, and your far from it kid.

Another word used when they lost the argument. I like how I only said  the word Canon once, and made you go off, makes me laugh, if you hate it so much, help try to fix it, and not leave and complain about it.

I'm done now, Goodnight.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Steel on 15-07-2010
The fact is, there is no argument lost.
Do not mention Canon if you do not abide by it.
You mentioned how bad the canon was on the server, when you add to the problem.

And for your information i have not left, infact im still here.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: armyguy on 15-07-2010
1st you two stop it if not go to PM's to do it
All i was asking for was +support or -support
Not a war so stop guys
2nd
Quote from: PistolKid on 14-07-2010
It's just an excuse to grind money easily. The NPC's probably won't even do anything, they'll just sit there until it "sees" someone. And by then, the player will have fucked his face inside out with whatever gun he/she is using because they have no armor. Oh, and we'd have to make some NPC guns too.
add more health to the NPC  and it will be as it is in SoC as in you use the gun the NPC gets
so the player not going to run in and get his/her FN2000 out and start killing and its not going to be you kill one guy and get 1k its going to be by the fight more NPC/higher armed NPCs = more
Quote from: Nova on 15-07-2010
True, I have this Stalker NPC pack, and they won't even start shooting the player, unless he get's within 10 meters of them. And if they are equipped with shotguns, they won't start shooting until you standing right up in their face
Its the Arena its not big at all and if the NPCs still don't see the play mod it so it can
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Steel on 15-07-2010
I do apologise armyguy.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: armyguy on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Steel on 15-07-2010
I do apologise armyguy.
its ok
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Ping-Pong on 15-07-2010
Well, I +SUPPORT it!
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: deluxulous on 15-07-2010
Quote from: armyguy on 15-07-2010
1st you two stop it if not go to PM's to do it
All i was asking for was +support or -support
Not a war so stop guys
2nd
Quote from: PistolKid on 14-07-2010
It's just an excuse to grind money easily. The NPC's probably won't even do anything, they'll just sit there until it "sees" someone. And by then, the player will have fucked his face inside out with whatever gun he/she is using because they have no armor. Oh, and we'd have to make some NPC guns too.
add more health to the NPC  and it will be as it is in SoC as in you use the gun the NPC gets
so the player not going to run in and get his/her FN2000 out and start killing and its not going to be you kill one guy and get 1k its going to be by the fight more NPC/higher armed NPCs = more
1. The player does not get the same gun as the other contestants in SoC.
2. That still doesn't fix the fact that we still need to MAKE NPC weapons.
3. Have you read the thread? We've already established that this will just be an easy excuse to get loads of money. Oh, and there's also no RP. And all fights are STK, so what's the point?
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Ping-Pong on 15-07-2010
Quote from: PistolKid on 15-07-2010
Quote from: armyguy on 15-07-2010
1st you two stop it if not go to PM's to do it
All i was asking for was +support or -support
Not a war so stop guys
2nd
Quote from: PistolKid on 14-07-2010
It's just an excuse to grind money easily. The NPC's probably won't even do anything, they'll just sit there until it "sees" someone. And by then, the player will have fucked his face inside out with whatever gun he/she is using because they have no armor. Oh, and we'd have to make some NPC guns too.
add more health to the NPC  and it will be as it is in SoC as in you use the gun the NPC gets
so the player not going to run in and get his/her FN2000 out and start killing and its not going to be you kill one guy and get 1k its going to be by the fight more NPC/higher armed NPCs = more
1. The player does not get the same gun as the other contestants in SoC.
2. That still doesn't fix the fact that we still need to MAKE NPC weapons.
3. Have you read the thread? We've already established that this will just be an easy excuse to get loads of money. Oh, and there's also no RP. And all fights are STK, so what's the point?

OooOooOoo, I'm sorry for wanting something that may be useful later in SRP. Shit. All fights are going to start being STK from now on anyhow. Of course there will be no RP.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: deluxulous on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Ping-Pong on 15-07-2010
Quote from: PistolKid on 15-07-2010
Quote from: armyguy on 15-07-2010
1st you two stop it if not go to PM's to do it
All i was asking for was +support or -support
Not a war so stop guys
2nd
Quote from: PistolKid on 14-07-2010
It's just an excuse to grind money easily. The NPC's probably won't even do anything, they'll just sit there until it "sees" someone. And by then, the player will have fucked his face inside out with whatever gun he/she is using because they have no armor. Oh, and we'd have to make some NPC guns too.
add more health to the NPC  and it will be as it is in SoC as in you use the gun the NPC gets
so the player not going to run in and get his/her FN2000 out and start killing and its not going to be you kill one guy and get 1k its going to be by the fight more NPC/higher armed NPCs = more
1. The player does not get the same gun as the other contestants in SoC.
2. That still doesn't fix the fact that we still need to MAKE NPC weapons.
3. Have you read the thread? We've already established that this will just be an easy excuse to get loads of money. Oh, and there's also no RP. And all fights are STK, so what's the point?

OooOooOoo, I'm sorry for wanting something that may be useful later in SRP. Shit. All fights are going to start being STK from now on anyhow. Of course there will be no RP.

"Useful?" You're fighting a fucking NPC for money. And if you're going to cry about it, I suggest you leave now before we disappoint you even further.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Ping-Pong on 15-07-2010
Why the fuck would I cry over shit like this? And I don't mean this should just be for money. This should be used for Random events set up by faction leaders that NPC's attack other bases.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: deluxulous on 15-07-2010
Quote from: Ping-Pong on 15-07-2010
Why the fuck would I cry over shit like this? And I don't mean this should just be for money. This should be used for Random events set up by faction leaders that NPC's attack other bases.

1. Then stop making such a big deal out of it and quit flamebaiting.
2. That would accomplish absolutely nothing. If you have a faction leader on, and you have people from the faction on, why bother using NPC's? And if you didn't mean that it shouldn't be in the arena, why didn't you speak up sooner? Plus, you'd need authorizations and admins on site. It would be a hassle. We can't even control what the NPC's do. The NPC does not RP.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Plunger on 15-07-2010
I remember the first time we tried this. The NPC's could headshot you as soon as your head appeared, and if you managed to kill one then you'd be walking around with whatever weapon they were carrying, that and NPC weapons are usually broken.

Excuse for money.

All the maps would need an update for the NPC nodes, and props wouldn't work because it'd fuck up the NPCs.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Mangoman on 15-07-2010
I don't ee the point of this, do we really need an arena THAT BAD? SRP has plenty of fights as it is, we don't need npc's killing each other to add to it.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Hotstarr on 16-07-2010
Fighting against NPCs is a rather idiotic idea. Even NPCs fighting NPCs so you bet on which one would rather be an excuse to make money.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: Silver Knight on 16-07-2010
Quote from: Ping-Pong on 15-07-2010
Quote from: PistolKid on 15-07-2010
Quote from: armyguy on 15-07-2010
1st you two stop it if not go to PM's to do it
All i was asking for was +support or -support
Not a war so stop guys
2nd
Quote from: PistolKid on 14-07-2010
It's just an excuse to grind money easily. The NPC's probably won't even do anything, they'll just sit there until it "sees" someone. And by then, the player will have fucked his face inside out with whatever gun he/she is using because they have no armor. Oh, and we'd have to make some NPC guns too.
add more health to the NPC  and it will be as it is in SoC as in you use the gun the NPC gets
so the player not going to run in and get his/her FN2000 out and start killing and its not going to be you kill one guy and get 1k its going to be by the fight more NPC/higher armed NPCs = more
1. The player does not get the same gun as the other contestants in SoC.
2. That still doesn't fix the fact that we still need to MAKE NPC weapons.
3. Have you read the thread? We've already established that this will just be an easy excuse to get loads of money. Oh, and there's also no RP. And all fights are STK, so what's the point?

OooOooOoo, I'm sorry for wanting something that may be useful later in SRP. Shit. All fights are going to start being STK from now on anyhow. Of course there will be no RP.

Your Dumb.
Title: Re: NPC Arena fights
Post by: armyguy on 16-07-2010
Locking as the Topic is now a war and ppl see siting in a bar or runing out of A to B for the 1000 time is more fun