New way to injure someone without a PK

[Zero]

Alot of people seem to forget, there are other ways to enforce pain on another person, Temporary kills, Permanent injury, Temporary injury, things that would be better alternatives then to a full scale permanent kill. Instead people tend to forget they exist and most times, your going against a enemy who just wants to end it there and now, I think this needs to end somewhat, and allow for more ways rp can go, Cutting off someones right arm or so would be a nice replacement to a PK, if anyone else can make some comments, I'll be watching this forum.

[Joemoma]

Um... mechanical limbs that cost 10K would be pretty cool :P cut off someone's arm and they either have to deal, or buy an arm, their choice, and i think it would make RP even better, with less PKs more "I lost my Fucking ARM!!!"

Oh and.... FIRST!!! ;P

[Locke]

I think I crippled someone on my bloodsucker once.

[Zero]

Yeah see, it adds to rp, instead of ending it right there and then, leaving PKs for something epic or for suicide choices.

[Dark Angel]

Whole this stuff exists! People are just way tooooo trigger happy to realize that.

[keyfoot]

A interesting idea, ill have to think about it

[PimpMasterJ]

Happened to me way back when my Duty wasn't exiled, a monolith worked with Military. (Don't fucking get how that worked) They captured me and brought me back to there town, I ended up losing my left leg to the monolith blasting it off with a shotgun, later it was replaced with a prosthetic.

[Assassinator]

People will get angry and just come out you with a PK. I can understand where you're coming from, but enless I was really strong, I'd just go for the quick and easy solution to avoid hurting myself in the long run, but if you think you, yourself can survive an attempted PK I guess you can go for a lesser degree of damage.

[Tunddruff]

I was RPing as merc once, and Assassinator decided to stab me as a bloodsucker. He hit a disc in my back, so I was laying on the ground, bleeding to death, I SWEAR 10 loners walked by me and didnt even say a word.


I did however bleed out, so I did PK the character, but Assassinator pretended to be my merc and did some missions that he was doing.

[Zero]

It's not that we have no issues with a PK, its just that, it involves more skill with RP so in the long run, proves your better, right? (Not that I ever have this issue)

[Paintcheck]

It's not even a "proves your better", just that in that one instant it made more sense for 1 party to be permanently killed rather than just "lol 5 second respawn nlr". As someone said above no one wants to inflict a PI because the injuree will likely be furious at them and PK their ass.

And also looking at it from how my dude Hawk would see things, it makes a lot more sense to kill someone now then wound them and have them come back with a vengeance later. PIs make sense for like what Pimp said, but in terms of calculated, premeditated events it seems like any sane, intelligent person would go for the easy kill and be done.

[Tom]

PI for things that are not planned OR for people who owe you money (IE "I cut off your finger cause you haven't paid me"). But a PK makes sense for pre-meditated things, Cause if someone is bothering me to the point to were i would think about hurting them... I would not go for an injury... Cause then they could turn around like 2 weeks from the point were I PI'd them and they will PK me... (Me shooting someones limb off would be a vailid reason for that person to PK me)

[Y4L]

If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared-Niccolo Machiavelli

As has been mentioned, you don't want some pissed off, heavily armed man with one leg and an epic grudge to find you. So if you PI, it's probably best to take/destroy their weapons too (Or cut of all their limbs)

[Welshy]

PI is a good way to build backstory between two people in the zone and can be much more effective than a PK. But PI/PK has to be applied for, so they have to be somewhat pre-meditated, for instance, if you captured an enemy, apply for a PI during torture, so any dismemeberment or injury you do while tourturing it will be held with that character permenantly.

[Assassinator]

It'd be hard to get three admins, screenshot, upload, PM on the forums in a format, wait for answer, get an admin on the server to watch you, hope the server doesn't crash, and with all that effort you might as well just Permanently Kill him.

[Zero]

Y4L mentioned: Make the injury so severe, you have no need of fear for his vengence, I don't know, but Cutting off his leg, taking his weapons, and maybe cutting off his best arm, would be just that, "Also taking his money" Then throwing him say in the underpass would let him live longer, and if he isn't found by stalkers, or unable to drag himself to a camp then he can die.

It isn't the fact that its hard, its the fact theres more things to do that people don't want to bother with, and they can't just deal with the fact, that someone holds a grudge against them from then on.

[Celtic]

It'd be hard to get three admins, screenshot, upload, PM on the forums in a format, wait for answer, get an admin on the server to watch you, hope the server doesn't crash, and with all that effort you might as well just Permanently Kill him.

Amazingly I managed to make a PI app in about ten minutes today, when I needed it on the spot.   But the server crashed and our guy never came back.

[Paintcheck]

Y4L mentioned: Make the injury so severe, you have no need of fear for his vengence, I don't know, but Cutting off his leg, taking his weapons, and maybe cutting off his best arm, would be just that, "Also taking his money" Then throwing him say in the underpass would let him live longer, and if he isn't found by stalkers, or unable to drag himself to a camp then he can die.

It isn't the fact that its hard, its the fact theres more things to do that people don't want to bother with, and they can't just deal with the fact, that someone holds a grudge against them from then on.

What's the point of that? Legless and armless he's probably going to stop playing that character anyway so it's basically a PK. Again if you can injure someone that badly, you'd probably just kill them.

[Royz]

This is better than me always being bugged for PK auths.
The only auth'ing I've been asked for.

[Y4L]

What's the point of that? Legless and armless he's probably going to stop playing that character anyway so it's basically a PK. Again if you can injure someone that badly, you'd probably just kill them.

That last part was just a joke. :P

But my point still remains, you'd want to make sure they're not a threat to you if you're going to heavily injure someone.