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Question: The Master Merc flag has recently had it's FN2000 removed. Should it be returned?
Option 1: Yes votes: 10
Option 2: No votes: 15
Option 3: Yes - Strict application required votes: 9
Title: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 14-08-2010
A discussion is currently ongoing in the Donators' forum, it concerns the recent removal of the Master Merc's FN2000.
Allow me to remind you, that in Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl the Mercenary faction is the most well armed, second best to the Monolith. They use high-end 5.56 NATO weaponry and are the only faction in the game to equip attatchments.

This is more of a plea, however I believe it is fair to allow the server to have a say in the outcome as this is the technique SK often uses to decide the outcome of a big decision, the 'Script Description' thread is a good example.

The FN was removed because of one case of abuse, and the entire status was punished instead of a singular punishment, and I'm strongly against blanket punishment.
The Master Mercenaries now spawn with an LR300, the same as the Veteran Merc, it kind of eliminates the bonuses of donating for Master status as currently, the Master Stalker, Master Merc and Master Bandit all have perks identical to their Veteran siblings (Identical Weapons and paychecks). Back on track: The topic is the return of the FN2000 for the M.Merc.

May I just say, the Master donators have donated quite a considerable amount of money, and almost all of the Master Mercenaries who are few in number, have legit history, thus 'Earning' their FN (If the topic of 'Earning' is brought up.)

To those who will vote 'No' because of previous encounters of being owned on the recieving end of an FN, please vote realisticly. ICly, Mercenaries have acquired years of combat experience, either in or outside of the Zone so says the official Stalker Wikia.
To those who vote no because they don't like having someone have a bigger gun than you, kindly piss off; this is a serious debate.

Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: RG4ORDR on 14-08-2010
Give them a SIG-550 hell in wild territory I seen use Sigs and Lrs
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Welek on 14-08-2010
I've only ever seen 1 Merc in all the stalker games with a FN2000.  So ya.. I would rather them have a SIG-550 and make them earn the FN2000.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Comradebritish on 14-08-2010
Sig 550 or maybe G-36?
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 14-08-2010
Added new option.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: RG4ORDR on 14-08-2010
I mean even if you're a master Merc where did did you get FN
I say Sig-550 be more available than G36 and Fn
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 14-08-2010
Quote from: RG4ORDR on 14-08-2010
I mean even if you're a master Merc where did did you get FN
I say Sig-550 be more available than G36 and Fn

Can't you read and figure it out? Did you even read the initial paragraphs or did you just press 'No'.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: RG4ORDR on 14-08-2010
Yes - Strict application required
I did that but right now I'm semi tired
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Fibritz on 15-08-2010
Nope for fn.... ICly i saw.... i think 2 or 3 mercs with that weap of mass destruction..

No for FN2000


Yes for g36 sig etc.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Aresty on 15-08-2010
666 votes lol
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: meetdadoom on 15-08-2010
Give them the ability to be able to buy one if they save up enouh money, other wise you really don't need it if you are a MASTER at your job, just remind stalkers that you have top of the line training and you are very experianced while a d
rookie stalker has almost no real training in combat.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Steven :D on 15-08-2010
Or... Have mercs a seperate buy menu for weaponry, which they cant sell. Also specific weapons, ie. Sig's and LR's for a lower price?
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Sharrock on 15-08-2010
I'm saying no to an FN, but instead give them a G36. It makes much more sense as a FN isn't exactly a common weapon to be found in STALKER. As to where the G36 can be found more commonly. And the G36 still being a pretty strong and good assault rifle it fits the Master Merc.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Khorn on 15-08-2010
Can we get something better then a makarov also?
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Mikhail on 15-08-2010
you guys really don't understand what "master merc" means. It doesn't mean you get uber l33t guns, it means that you're so skilled you could kill someone with a (https://forums.hypergamer.net/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi229.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee254%2FMeBeBee%2Ffingergun.jpg&hash=080e330da7bc6dd95048bcf997a1f6bfa2a65ac7) if need be.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Khorn on 15-08-2010
Well with a makarov, you can't kill shit. You have a better chance having a bullet hit yourself.

Also, fear rp is mostly dead. So people won't care if you are a master at anything. They still treat you as if they can kick your ass.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: RG4ORDR on 15-08-2010
You can kill with a PMm just takes alot of ammo
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Chrono on 16-08-2010
I dont really want the fn back,But at least give us master mercs a g36,SVD,SVU or the vss any  of those would be good.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: RG4ORDR on 16-08-2010
I would say No sniper weapons
Not once at all in my Stalker games I saw a merc using a SVD,SVU
G36 is rare
FN2k is very rare for me
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Snurf on 18-08-2010
If we don't get our FNs back (which we bloody damn well should), we really need to get something better than an LR300 - Makarov combo. Really. A VSS or G36 coupled with a Deagle would be pretty nice.

But getting the FN back is still much better.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Locke on 18-08-2010
FN200 is really OP. A G36 or a SIG550 would be better. You also should not be able to drop weapons you spawn with too, or suits.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Killabreu on 19-08-2010
I agree that you shouldn't have a makarov, but you shouldn't have a Desert Eagle. Enjoy a P99 or Beretta, with a nice helping of LR300 or Sig 550. Buy one of these packages and you can mix and match!
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 19-08-2010
Thanks for all of your votes.

Quote from: Killabreu on 19-08-2010
I agree that you shouldn't have a makarov, but you shouldn't have a Desert Eagle. Enjoy a P99 or Beretta, with a nice helping of LR300 or Sig 550. Buy one of these packages and you can mix and match!

LR300 - No. It's what Master Mercs have currently, and is what Veteran Mercs have too. It's the same situation with the Veteran Stalker and Veteran bandit, they have exactly the same perks and eliminates the advtantages of donating $50 more for Master Status.

I think a G36 / Walther P99 would be adequate, however I'm not causing another ruckus by starting yet another thread, it wouldn't be appreciated.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Khorn on 19-08-2010
You do remember, donating to the server wasn't so you could get an advantage over others, but to help the server itself?
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: lolKieck on 19-08-2010
For me it should have:
Exp Merc - MP5
Vet Merc - LR300
Mas Merc - G36/SiG 550
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 19-08-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 19-08-2010
You do remember, donating to the server wasn't so you could get an advantage over others, but to help the server itself?

If the server had no perks to donate for, there would be little to no donations. I was with one of Kuro's RP servers, there were very few donations because there were no perks which made people want to donate, and so the server closed.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Kenny on 19-08-2010
Honestly these people have donated so much money to aquire such a flag and your telling them what they can have? I do disagree with it as its stated they have legit storys for owning the weapon.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Steven :D on 19-08-2010
^This
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 19-08-2010
Quote from: Kenny on 19-08-2010
Honestly these people have donated so much money to aquire such a flag and your telling them what they can have? I do disagree with it as its stated they have legit storys for owning the weapon.

'Strict applications' was an option, it would have certainly involved a backstory of some sort, how they acquired the weapon or otherwise.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Steel on 19-08-2010
Quote from: KillSlim on 19-08-2010
Quote from: Kenny on 19-08-2010
Honestly these people have donated so much money to aquire such a flag and your telling them what they can have? I do disagree with it as its stated they have legit storys for owning the weapon.

'Strict applications' was an option, it would have certainly involved a backstory of some sort, how they acquired the weapon or otherwise.

Then we get self proclaimed master mercs.
And in honesty, when has anything application or auth wise been strict here.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Mikhail on 19-08-2010
exactly, if someone gets their app for an FN denied they will bitch and rant saying "But i donated this isnt fairrrrrrr!"
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: alex4576 on 24-08-2010
It could cause like scandles because people will donate and sell the fn2ks alot
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Locke on 24-08-2010
Quote from: alex4576 on 24-08-2010
It could cause like scandles because people will donate and sell the fn2ks alot

I dont think you really know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Comradebritish on 24-08-2010
Forgive him Locke, he be post whoring.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 24-08-2010
Quote from: Comradebritish on 24-08-2010
Forgive him Locke, he be post whoring.

Not that, he just doesn't understand what he is talking about regarding flag abuse.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Tom on 26-08-2010
EXP- Merc- MP5
Vet- ""- LR300
Master-""- Sig550

Exp-STALKER- AK74U
Vet-""- AK74M
Master-""-L85?

Exp- Bandit- Toz (Or keep as Sig since the Sig220 is a decent CQC weapon)
Vet- ""- Spas
Master- ""- Abakan.

Sound good?
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: Locke on 27-08-2010
The master stalker should get a Groza, to go along with the theme of russian weapons.
Title: Re: Master Mercenaries - FN2000 Return?
Post by: KillSlim on 27-08-2010
Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 27-08-2010
The master stalker should get a Groza, to go along with the theme of russian weapons.

Master Stalker getting an L85 is a good idea, as an example, the Master Stalker outside the Freedom base has a lightened L85. He's the guy who you're sent to kill for the bandit in the Duty base bar.