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Title: Ecologist leader
Post by: Goose on 31-01-2013
The ecologists need a leader. If you are interested post here, the closing date will be Feb. 3 2013.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Frostee on 31-01-2013
I'll bite.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Khorn on 31-01-2013
Hey, if Frostee throws his hat in, I'll offer to take part.


I'm willing to co-op the Ecos with others.




I promise to not make anything like 'That Crazy Eco'.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Steven :D on 31-01-2013
^ take these 2 guys.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Tom on 31-01-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 31-01-2013
I promise to not make anything like 'That Crazy Eco'.

We had one of those once. His name was star.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 31-01-2013
Umm me? I actually like the rp a lot and wouldn't mind co leadingwith others like rebel brought up, two or three people same powers and rank working together. The problem i had after two years leading was IRL issues and then i just ran out of ideas so now i love to get a chance to lead again.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Khorn on 31-01-2013
3 head scientist could work. It'd give more availability. But, I personally won't be part of any other faction, major or minor.


And I'm fine with standing in a lab for a hours just /me scienceing thing.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Frostee on 31-01-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 31-01-2013
Umm me? I actually like the rp a lot and wouldn't mind co leadingwith others like rebel brought up, two or three people same powers and rank working together. The problem i had after two years leading was IRL issues and then i just ran out of ideas so now i love to get a chance to lead again.

You were already Eco leader, give someone else a try. Or we could try what Khorn said, but still.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 31-01-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 31-01-2013
wouldn't mind co leadingwith others like rebel brought up, two or three people same powers and rank working together.
Quote from: Khorn on 31-01-2013
3 head scientist could work. It'd give more availability. But, I personally won't be part of any other faction, major or minor.


And I'm fine with standing in a lab for a hours just /me scienceing thing.
Quote from: Frostee on 31-01-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 31-01-2013
Umm me? I actually like the rp a lot and wouldn't mind co leadingwith others like rebel brought up, two or three people same powers and rank working together. The problem i had after two years leading was IRL issues and then i just ran out of ideas so now i love to get a chance to lead again.

You were already Eco leader, give someone else a try. Or we could try what Khorn said, but still.
Like i said i wouldn't mind having three leaders with the same power and rank, be more productive and make me happy since i would still be in only faction i liked. And frostee i don't plan on giving up on eco. I actually like the rp.

That and i didn't get eco back and active two years ago and stick with it for nothing.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: jaik on 31-01-2013
there's only one authority that can control everything. 1 leader, how ever many co leaders you want, members.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Khorn on 31-01-2013
We can have 3 co leaders that control everything, we just take a vote. There is no reason to force a single top leader.


But that's up to whoever decides this.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
I'd like to file my name in for consideration.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 31-01-2013
We can have 3 co leaders that control everything, we just take a vote. There is no reason to force a single top leader.


But that's up to whoever decides this.
Like khorn is saying, we don't need a single leader, in fact having more than two or one can act as a check and balance system with voting over activity the ecologist part take in such as organizing expeditions, hiring local help, and working together for coming up with amazing projects that will help the servers experience. I know from experience how stressful it is trying to lead on your own when you don't have inputs for others and end up dealing with irl issues and eventually like I encountered, just running out of ideas. Hopefully if this new leadership system works it can help with these problems and contacting other leads on a vote isn't very hard or stressful.
On a side note I'm willing to bury the hatchet for the sake of getting something very important for the server that needs to get done. It's a new year and lot of stuff to get off the ground so it won't be easy but I'm confident with the tight plànning we can do this.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: jaik on 01-02-2013
there must be someone at the very top regardless of your wishes because this is giving 3 people equal leadership positions in one MINOR faction -- that's not how it works. besides democracy is unnecessary and is known to fail when it comes to leading something on the internet. if you want good for this faction then you dont want to have 3 leaders.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 01-02-2013
there must be someone at the very top regardless of your wishes because this is giving 3 people equal leadership positions in one MINOR faction -- that's not how it works. besides democracy is unnecessary and is known to fail when it comes to leading something on the internet.
It's a new year, there's a new script, there's a new srp in general, why the hell not give it a try.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: jaik on 01-02-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
It's a new year, there's a new script, there's a new srp in general, why the hell not give it a try.

all of which have nothing to do with leading the faction.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 01-02-2013
there must be someone at the very top regardless of your wishes because this is giving 3 people equal leadership positions in one MINOR faction -- that's not how it works. besides democracy is unnecessary and is known to fail when it comes to leading something on the internet.
It's a new year, there's a new script, there's a new srp in general, why the hell not give it a try.

Perhaps because common sense says "No". You would not shove an icicle up your arse even if it is a new year, because you already know it's stupid.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 01-02-2013
there must be someone at the very top regardless of your wishes because this is giving 3 people equal leadership positions in one MINOR faction -- that's not how it works. besides democracy is unnecessary and is known to fail when it comes to leading something on the internet.
It's a new year, there's a new script, there's a new srp in general, why the hell not give it a try.

Perhaps because common sense says "No". You would not shove an icicle up your arse even if it is a new year, because you already know it's stupid.
From leading it before for long as I did I'm open to trying a new idea. Even if its a minor faction it doesn't mean it's not a important part of the server it self. And when it comes to having a single lead to keep things in check a democracy acts as a check and balance system so we don't end up with stupid and crazy experiments or crazy scientist. And I think the new core admins would have a strong part in all this as well but have other priorities so having a system that works it self out with out bothering the admins would help. Besides scientist work together anyway to come up with and act on experiments that are a big part of their job. The ecologist are sent to the zone to study it in small teams that usually act on there own and send all their results to the main head quarters so they still have a reason to be there.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
But obviously every single research group needs a leader.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Blake.H on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 31-01-2013
there's only one authority that can control everything. 1 leader, how ever many co leaders you want, members.

Ehem.

Id take -my- faction back anyday.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: jaik on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Longlostblake on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 31-01-2013
there's only one authority that can control everything. 1 leader, how ever many co leaders you want, members.

Ehem.

Id take -my- faction back anyday.

at least blake knows how to run a faction
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
But obviously every single research group needs a leader.
Yes but this does not mean it can't run with a group of individuals leading it, I mean governments are lead by groups and not a single supreme leader. Once again it's not our call and is up to the core admins to decide what to do.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: jaik on 01-02-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
But obviously every single research group needs a leader.
Yes but this does not mean it can't run with a group of individuals leading it, I mean governments are lead by groups and not a single supreme leader. Once again it's not our call and is up to the core admins to decide what to do.

experience shows that democracy or any variants of it in the internet will fail no matter what.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 01-02-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
But obviously every single research group needs a leader.
Yes but this does not mean it can't run with a group of individuals leading it, I mean governments are lead by groups and not a single supreme leader. Once again it's not our call and is up to the core admins to decide what to do.

experience shows that democracy or any variants of it in the internet will fail no matter what.
Once again instead of arguing if democracy works or not, I'll wait to see what the core admins choose.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Ragolution on 01-02-2013
Why don't we just make it so there's a leading party of like..

3 Research Directors and 1 Ecologist Leader or something.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Ragolution on 01-02-2013
Why don't we just make it so there's a leading party of like..

3 Research Directors and 1 Ecologist Leader or something.

Not enough activity for that.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Thanatos on 01-02-2013
Because we know that we base activity on the alpha that started a few hours ago.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
No, because in the last year, I never saw more than 4 ecologists online at the same time, plus Ecos require TT and only a select few have interest in joining in the first place.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
No, because in the last year, I never saw more than 4 ecologists online at the same time, plus Ecos require TT and only a select few have interest in joining in the first place.
It's called new player base. That's all I have to say.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Gonztah on 01-02-2013
Quote from: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
No, because in the last year, I never saw more than 4 ecologists online at the same time, plus Ecos require TT and only a select few have interest in joining in the first place.
It's called new player base. That's all I have to say.

Implying we have one.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Lucky Pig on 01-02-2013
I've seen a couple new names trodding along in the forums, but that hardly qualifies as a new playerbase. Besides, if the server comes up now, it'll be a few weeks before people start joining in via Gmod.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Khorn on 01-02-2013
Fine, we'll call a single Eco the leader and the next 2 can be the next rank lower. Doesn't mean we can't get input from the other 2 for decisions.


The fact we are arguing over something so soon into SRP's return is stupid. Let's just get a list of who is apply and have someone figure out who'd they like to lead it best.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: darkzerxx on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 01-02-2013
Fine, we'll call a single Eco the leader and the next 2 can be the next rank lower. Doesn't mean we can't get input from the other 2 for decisions.


The fact we are arguing over something so soon into SRP's return is stupid. Let's just get a list of who is apply and have someone figure out who'd they like to lead it best.
Fair enough , going back to what I said its up to the core admins to decide.
So far it's khorn, frostee, lucky, Blake and me. From what I seen , I think sticky wanted to also.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: lolKieck on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Longlostblake on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Jake on 31-01-2013
there's only one authority that can control everything. 1 leader, how ever many co leaders you want, members.

Ehem.

Id take -my- faction back anyday.

at least blake knows how to run a faction
yeah especially parenthenia
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Frostee on 01-02-2013
My Thoughts:

-I thought Blake was banned, and he is silly anyway.

-Darkzerxx is kay

-Lucky Pig you go away

-Khorn is kay

-Sticky is silly and completely wicket.

-I'm kay

Any questions?
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Ragolution on 01-02-2013
I second Khorne as eco leader
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Plunger on 01-02-2013
Quote from: Ragolution on 01-02-2013
I second Khorne as eco leader
Third the motion.
Title: Re: Ecologist leader
Post by: Knife_cz on 01-02-2013
Frostee or Khorne...
Voting for Khorne, he got more votes.