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Title: Change of Plans
Post by: Blake.H on 15-11-2010
If you want a faction board for your Player based group then you'll have to donate for it. Not my decision so please don't bitch and whine to me.

Sorry for the inconvenience,

Longlostblake
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Steven :D on 15-11-2010
Fuck, I was just talking to exile about something like this a couple days ago...
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Tom on 15-11-2010
This is not going to work
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Duranblackraven on 15-11-2010
Oh look, now we're becoming as money hungry as TnB. Are we going to have to donate for individual weapons and TT no- oshi- I just gave him ideas...
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Tom on 15-11-2010
Yeah I have HUGE problems with this. And I love how we where asked if we thought this was a good idea or not, Amiright?
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Paintcheck on 15-11-2010
Player based factions are just going to set up Steam Friends groups or free message boards. No one is going to pay for something that is free and doesn't cost the HGN anything (since the forums cost the same amount regardless of how many child boards there are).
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Tom on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Paintcheck on 15-11-2010
Player based factions are just going to set up Steam Friends groups or free message boards. No one is going to pay for something that is free and doesn't cost the HGN anything (since the forums cost the same amount regardless of how many child boards there are).

^This
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Turkey on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Longlostblake on 15-11-2010
If you want a faction board for your Player based group then you'll have to donate for it. Not my decision so please don't bitch and whine to me.

Sorry for the inconvenience,

Longlostblake

knock knock scene from cop out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lffwR5-U0YE#ws)
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Dug on 15-11-2010
Quote from: Paintcheck on 15-11-2010
Player based factions are just going to set up Steam Friends groups or free message boards. No one is going to pay for something that is free and doesn't cost the HGN anything (since the forums cost the same amount regardless of how many child boards there are).
Quote from: Tom on 15-11-2010
Yeah I have HUGE problems with this. And I love how we where asked if we thought this was a good idea or not, Amiright?
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 15-11-2010
Oh look, now we're becoming as money hungry as TnB. Are we going to have to donate for individual weapons and TT no- oshi- I just gave him ideas...
Quote from: Tom on 15-11-2010
This is not going to work


+1

No one is going to pay for this.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Khorn on 15-11-2010
Terrible Idea in so many ways.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Steel on 16-11-2010
I lol'd at how ridiculous this is. Someone must be desperate!
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Nargotah on 16-11-2010
Elite: 600$
Professional: 450$
Master: 1200$
Veteran: 750$
Experienced: 1080$
Total: 4080$
Time HGN Has Been Active: 2 years, 5 months, 18? days
So, how much does it cost to run the servers and forums per month that necessitates this?
I picked a random provider for a server (45 slots), the price was 345$ per year.
To date, the price for this would have been 833.75$.
Now, assuming that silver had bought an insane 250 slot server for teamspeak, the price would have been about 600$ per year, and i'm fairly sure it hasn't been up for half that quite yet.

So, let's call it half a year on teamspeak, that leaves us with around 1133.75$ that's been spent hosting all this. I'm sure there was stuff for ventrilo too, along with the servers that were funded for a couple of months, but I think i've already wasted enough time researching this.

Bottom line, where the hell is this money going, and why the hell is more of it necessary?

(Note: I took the runtime for how long Silver has been with the forum, as I assumed he was the first member. If HGN has been around longer, feel free to tell me. I doubt this has been up long enough to necessitate the full amount though)

Also, we'll need to know precisely how much the forums actually cost.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Bielecki on 16-11-2010
Damn good research Nargotah. I pretty sure the donators of HGN would like to have an answer to that.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-11-2010
Wow that was a useful post :Facepalm:

I miss having global moderator. A lot.

And yeah some actual numbers for how much it costs to run the place would be nice since I thought Afro used to host some of the servers for HGN for cheap/free.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Chrono on 16-11-2010
This is not going to work...hgn have money to keep running for like 3 years or more, why more money..seriously..no point in charging players for boards for they groups that were free for 2 years..

*edit*
We might charge players for creating groups now...
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Linxiekins on 16-11-2010
I think it's funny how you guys have been putting your money into Silvers pocket, and he doesn't even do anything. LOL LETS ALL PLAY NOVUS 2 KAY? I'm laughing REAL fucking hard.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-11-2010
Silver has stated a few times in TS that the server and forums combined cost $150/month which is way more than Nargotah's "$345/year" figure (by almost 7 times) so before you all jump on this bandwagon at least get more concrete numbers.

Although it is more than likely that a lot of the donation money hasn't gone to the server since I am nearly positive HGN at one point either owned its own box or had a very good deal on one.

Linxie you are adding NOTHING useful to this discussion so start posting useful things or go elsewhere. Especially since it isn't really that amazing/amusing for someone to create a service that people will pay for (HGN) and then make a profit on it. That's called Capitalism. You should try it sometime.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Linxiekins on 16-11-2010
How about you go fuck yourself you stupid sack of shit?
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-11-2010
Forgive me for possessing some shred of intelligence, I keep forgetting not everyone can actually think logically about things. Enjoy your ban.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Tom on 16-11-2010
Never mind unlocked
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Pawx on 16-11-2010
Alright Exile, if you don't want to have Player Base Groups, that's fine with us, good luck with your whole "Idea to Donate for a Group" Thing...
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: whyku on 16-11-2010
What about only people who have donate can start the group? That sounds fair gives more pecks to donate and people well be happy that they don't have to pay more and more for add on's and such just make donate give's you more pecks?



But if you don't want to do that^

I don't support the paying thing -support
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: jaik on 16-11-2010
Quote from: Nargotah on 16-11-2010
(Note: I took the runtime for how long Silver has been with the forum, as I assumed he was the first member. If HGN has been around longer, feel free to tell me. I doubt this has been up long enough to necessitate the full amount though)

It was way longer here.
Silver changed domains from .co to .com if I'm not wrong.
And the HGN's SRP started after The Zone died, which is around October - November 2008.
Title: Re: Change of Plans
Post by: Silver Knight on 17-11-2010
Quote from: Jake on 16-11-2010
Quote from: Nargotah on 16-11-2010
(Note: I took the runtime for how long Silver has been with the forum, as I assumed he was the first member. If HGN has been around longer, feel free to tell me. I doubt this has been up long enough to necessitate the full amount though)

It was way longer here.
Silver changed domains from .co to .com if I'm not wrong.
And the HGN's SRP started after The Zone died, which is around October - November 2008.

No it started in april, the zone was a short lived community of about 5 months if that.