An Unresolved Matter.

Started by Dragon, 14-06-2011

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Dug

#25
Every admin has overlooked your situation. As they have voted. Those rounds also look deadly.
I have provided what you have originally said to the admin team. And no where have I lied. I have merely expressed my opinion of the rounds looking deadly. And I will say it again. Even these look deadly. Your ignorance towards the situation it self is beyond comprehension. You would have died either way, so what's the point of discussing this? If the bullet wouldn't have killed ya, we would.

I will say it once more the admin team can not be influnienced upon no matter what you think of it.

I am giving it a fair look. I have stuided your damn case and I know more of it than you do.

Blanks without protection that are shot to the head result in skull fracture and you can't heal that in the zone. With protection your ear drum pops and hello ungodly and unforgiving pain. No it won't knock you out. Also not to mention, why do people think a trader would sell blanks in the zone? No ordinary stalker needs it so no one would sell it. There for it is a rare IC item, you probably would need an auth for those.
Why the auth? Because if someone sees one guy using blanks to fake death, everyone else will too.

What's next? Blowout survival pills?

Renay

Bandit: Give me all your stuff.

Stalker shoots himself in the head.

Dragon

Hm, it's such a damn shame there is no actual evidence to back up whether the blank would actuall-
Oh wait.

Concussions usually occur at 90 joules of energy hitting the head.
A 9x18mm Makarov round can dispatch 313 joules.
Looks like I would of been knocked out afterall.

And with ample protection, I would of been fairly safe from any form of Skull fracture or depression of the head.
Oh, and they are not really deadly.
Let me bring up a quote;
QuoteJon-Erik Hexum was killed when he placed a blank-loaded .44 Magnum revolver to his head and pulled the trigger—the powerful shock-wave from the blank cartridge penetrated his skull, sending bone fragments deep into his brain. He died a few days after the accident.

.44 Magnum rounds are 2,078 Joules in power, and it was a few days later when he died, and with all that power to an unarmored head?
9x18mm rounds are 313 Joules, it's going to CONSIDERABLY less than a .44 magnum round, and to an unarmored head as well.

Thus, your theory about the blanks being fatal are flawed, whilst I would suffer a concussion, I would also walk away quite happily afterwards due to having protection a bit of protection.
Tell me Dug, is that Ignorance?

The bullet would not have killed me, and you were too busy trying to apprehend Gearhead at the time, and none of you went to inspect the body for lifesigns or signs of death.
That's a fault on your part, but yet you cannot accept that and deal with it, so instead you have to make an unfair argument to the Administration team, just so you can get your way.

And it's funny you mention the Authorization part now, instead of possibly before, or all that time ago.
Running out of points for your arguments?

Oh, and you suggest the admin team cannot be influenced, but that's like saying that in court, the Jury or the Judge/Magistrate are unafflicted by all evidence and pull either the word 'Guilty' or 'Innocent' out of their ass on their own accord.
It does not happen like that, you provide evidence, and peoples views can be altered so long as you provide evidence that can persuade them as such.
Such is life, Dug, people have their own mind, it's just a challenge to change it, you do not realise that.

And I will continue saying it's unfair, you provided evidence for your own point whilst providing no actual evidence on my behalf, you started the votes on false information, and you ended the discussion based on the votes, which is hardly fair at all looking at the circumstances.


Quote from: Renay on 17-06-2011
Bandit: Give me all your stuff.

Stalker shoots himself in the head.

Quality contribution, please post again, I am in awe from how inspiring your words of wisdom contribute to this in any way, shape or form.
"Is it just me, or have peoples' hands been growing out of their asses lately?"

Dug

You are again ignoring the fact I was right next to you.
So if nothing happened. I'd notice. You were wearing a steel helmet , like you said 9x18.
I still say, you wouldn't have been knocked out but rather scream in pain of your bursted ear drum.

Comradebritish

This thread, it reaks of butthurt and stupidity. Can we please just let this go, it's been so damn long since it happened, you seem to have attachment issues Headcrabs. Why can't you just let it go, it's just one damn character.
Suspiciously cheesy man sighted on east pier at 9pm.

Renay

Quote from: Comradebritish on 17-06-2011
This thread, it reaks of butthurt and stupidity. Can we please just let this go, it's been so damn long since it happened, you seem to have attachment issues Headcrabs. Why can't you just let it go, it's just one damn character.

And you already agreed to letting it go ealier, just after Thy gave his opinion you took it up again.

Knife_cz

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Quote from: Comradebritish on 17-06-2011
This thread, it reaks of butthurt and stupidity. Can we please just let this go, it's been so damn long since it happened, you seem to have attachment issues Headcrabs. Why can't you just let it go, it's just one damn character.

I do not see this full of stupidity,Headcrabs actually made alot of valid points.
As the dug did too.
I agree it happend long time ago,but this character means to Headcrabs same like Stone to Dug,every character has its own "history" and "story" I do not see a reason why should you actually should keep Dragon PKed.
Just give him permament damages,but let him have the story of the character atleast.


Dragon

Quote from: Dug on 17-06-2011
You are again ignoring the fact I was right next to you.
So if nothing happened. I'd notice. You were wearing a steel helmet , like you said 9x18.
I still say, you wouldn't have been knocked out but rather scream in pain of your bursted ear drum.

You were behind a desk from what I remember, I was slouched down against the ground after promptly shooting myself in the head, you may of been able to see it, but at the same time, you were also focused on a member of Orion Platoon who was trying to fight himself free, one less threat, one still a threat, which one would take your focus?

You got to remember basic science, the gun was literally touching the helmet of Dragon as it fired, which would mean a lot of the energy would transfer into the helmet, then into the Head of Dragon, which is where he would be KO'd from the force, as it is not far for any force to travel at all, it would retain most of it's power and still have plenty enough to knock him out.

It may be a Steel Helmet, but the Muzzleflash and expanding gas of which would be extremely hot would still burn it considerably, giving a scorch mark and possibly imitating the appearance of a wound.

I think a compramise can be met Dug, but I do not think it ends with a PK, I think it can end at a TK/PI, I also do not mind having the items taken away, as they were left with the Dutiers IC.

Which would end this whole contraversy and we could all go on a lot better than we are arguing here, giving points that can counter and conflict eachothers forever does not really appeal to me, and I know it would not appeal to you either.
"Is it just me, or have peoples' hands been growing out of their asses lately?"

Dug

Quote from: knife_cz on 17-06-2011
Quote from: Comradebritish on 17-06-2011
This thread, it reaks of butthurt and stupidity. Can we please just let this go, it's been so damn long since it happened, you seem to have attachment issues Headcrabs. Why can't you just let it go, it's just one damn character.

I do not see this full of stupidity,Headcrabs actually made alot of valid points.
As the dug did too.
I agree it happend long time ago,but this character means to Headcrabs same like Stone to Dug,every character has its own "history" and "story" I do not see a reason why should you actually should keep Dragon PKed.
Just give him permament damages,but let him have the story of the character atleast.

Knife is right. You are deff on one ear. Enjoy and no hard feelings.

Goose

Alright all of you stop those not involved in the matter get out, take this thread and post it in ok appeals where Duran and I will deliberate on the subject, good day
~"Victory isn't sweet, Victory is the absence of the taste of fear and stench of death"


Dragon


I think this is resolved now, is it possible this thread can be locked?
"Is it just me, or have peoples' hands been growing out of their asses lately?"

Dug

You can lock it yer self.

Duranblackraven

QuoteBlank cartridges frequently contain a paper, wood or plastic plug called a wad which seals the powder in the case. This wad can cause severe penetrating wounds at close range and bruising at medium ranges. There is also the phenomenon of "muzzle blast" - the cloud of hot, expanding gas expelled at extremely high velocity from the muzzle of the firearm. These high velocity gases can inflict severe injuries (see powerhead for an example) at close ranges. Additionally, if there is any small debris lodged inside the barrel it will be expelled at a velocity similar to that of a bullet, with the ability to inflict a severe or lethal wound. Additionally, the extremely loud noise of blanks being fired can damage the hearing of people in the immediate area.


With that said, you have a blown ear drum and your equilibrium is off. Enjoy having a hard time walking and hearing. That's the end of it.