This topic is simple, yet effective.
List here, 5 things you wanted edited/changed/removed/added to srp.
Example:
1. I think... that penguins should be added to srp
2. Bloodsuckers should have top hats
3. Add monsta trucks
4. Add monsta trucks 2
5. Add monsta trucks 3
That was a dumb example, however it gets over the point that things should be layed out with numbers, keep this on topic and serious please, i won't hesitate to give you a forum ban.
1. There should be stashes, that randomly generate RU; and small items.
2. The paycheck for Stalkers should be increased dramatically.
3. Please decrease the prices of items. Even though this will cause a "Rich" economy, We will have many more players.
4. Random Trader NPC's that can give jobs, and Sell small items. (Ammo, and Small rifles.) They should not be allowed to sell suits, and High tier weapons.
5. I'm undecided on the last one, I'll edit it later.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 13-10-2010
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1. Make
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5. Please
1. Back to redemption.
2. Gimme my veteran trader back.
3. Fix the ecologist faction
4.Mutant npc's
5. Make the sunrise suit cheaper. Since that suit should be more common, then the merc.
1. A well made hunger mod.
2. No paycheck. It causes inflation.
3. Anomalies that are randomly scattered around with server restart.
4. Artifacts with some properties.
5. More variant of suits with different stats.
All of this has to do with my idea about the economy. So don't say it's bad yet until you fully read my thread. And I am still trying to iron out issues that people should present me with.
1. No more trader "tiers"
2. stashes with randomly generated items ie. 5-10 RU, or a box of ammo.
3. Artifacts. Now.
4. More suits/wepons
5. As you said, monster trucks.
1. Less ninjas
2. less 'im a 4year old who dosn't understand shit' RP
3. Fear RP
4. Make items easy to obtain.
5. Make a Trader whitelist
1. A richer economy.. The money has to come from somewhere, and it's certainly not from the factions. Traders are rare and pay out of their own pocket for missions. So what we need is..
2. SA admin powers back. Spawning items/rubles and making missions for stalkers. Maybe they will get on more too because I'm sure they enjoyed making missions, with the RP that comes from giving the mission.
3. Artifacts back. Again, you just need admins for this. Anomalies require more scripting, and they're a lot more boring than the admin stashes and spots.
4. Tooltrust by steam ID instead of by character.
5. Khorn's ideas. Really like the barmen and advanced hunger mod idea.
6. Smoking anim, for when you auctually use cigarettes.
7. Drugs for Freedom. Realistic, not like the dark rp drugs.
1. Traders that acutally ACT like Traders (No fighting, Low Combat Skills, Just simple Trading)
2. Artifacts (There a main source of a Stalker Economy, every Stalker wants one..)
3. Military that actually wear the right suits (Recruits dont get Spetnaz Suits...)
4. Hunger Mod (It's annoying, but it forces Players to eat and drink, also supports Passive RP)
5. Fix the fucking Admin Team
Quote from: Alucard on 13-10-2010
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I had too many things I wanted to change. I'm sure he'd rather have me input everything than keep it to just 5. Another idea.. Wich I'm sure has been mentioned but would be really nice. A guitar to play around the campfire.
1. Either cut off the super mega load paychecks right now or make things more expensive, The value of the RU is starting to die.
2. Imlement a light,keyword LIGHT!!!!Ass pulling rule. Like you can't have a fucking uber mega fort that has been built in one day, you have to roleplay it.
3. More horror aspect on sector 42 perhaps?
4. Since of new character stats,characters can get hungry but won't die just if your character doesn't eat for more than 6 hours game time his/her stats will go down.
5. Since of new character stats, mercs,military, high ranked dutiers and freedomers, and experianced and up stalker/bandits get better stats because no one wants to rp that a merc has better combat skill than an average stalker.
Why are we pushing for a hunger mod.
And why are we worried about "Inflation" on a game. . . It makes no sense to me
Why can't you people just RP instead of having a script force you to do it. Its retarded to me.
Someone please explain.
Next thing you know people will be asking for a condom item and a Sex anim and some sort of stat oriented thing to do with sex or some sort of script mod for sex, Its stupid.
The answer is very easy, Tom. We need to have a script to force doing this things, like Hunger, because nobody will ever RP it.
Quote from: Aresty on 17-10-2010
The answer is very easy, Tom. We need to have a script to force doing this things, like Hunger, because nobody will ever RP it.
If no one is RP'ing now, and a script is added forcing them to, then they will all bitch to the high heavens. GG.
Yeah but why is it a big deal? The reason we have no players is because there is no events or jobs, not because we don't have a hunger mod or "Inflation" which inflation in SRP is a rediculus concept, since the value of a ruble dosn't go down or fluxuate because Hmm. . . IDK ITS A GAME. lol you people are thinking to in depth about stupid shit and not wrpaing your head around the important shit.
The best roleplay came out of me when I stopped caring about items, that was at the point when I had lots of money, nice suits and guns.
Was also the time when I had the most fun.
So I suggest you let people get the whole 'must have items!' thing over and done with as soon a possible.
Yea, basically, everyone now just plays to get items and money.
Most people wait around for a stash, or wait for someone to die. Then they rush the area in droves to grab what they can.
Most of the roleplay is dead due to people only wanting items.
Alot of people strive to get all of the best guns and suits because they want to "Win The Game".
I didn't know it was possible to "win" SRP. Or any RP server.
So what I'm saying is give them the damn items.
Make it easy to obtain them so everyone can focus on more important things.
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.
It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.
Still, Making the economy more shitty and adding a hunger mod won't fix item hoarding at all it will make it worse.
People will be like "OMG FOODZ MUST NOM" and would cut out a bit the "OMG MUST GET GUNZ AND TOTALY NOT EAT SLEEP NOR TAKE A CRAP"
Not really, Its like adding a day and night system, its more of an anoyance then its worth.
(IE): *Tom raises his gun at the guy with the hostage
Terrorist: If you do. . . She gets it
Girl: Please dont!
*The Terrorist laughs maniacally
*Toms stomache grumbles
*Girls stomache grumbles
*Terrorists stomache grumbles
Tom: // Shit I need to eat
Girl: // Me too
Terrorist: // Damn hunger mod.
It would ruin epic RP and stuff since most hunger mods are a 'Starve to death' mod. and if it modifies stats whats the point? Stats count for shit anyway cause everyone is paper thin, weak, and can only jog for 5-8 seconds.
Quote from: Tom on 18-10-2010
Not really, Its like adding a day and night system, its more of an anoyance then its worth.
(IE): *Tom raises his gun at the guy with the hostage
Terrorist: If you do. . . She gets it
Girl: Please dont!
*The Terrorist laughs maniacally
*Toms stomache grumbles
*Girls stomache grumbles
*Terrorists stomache grumbles
Tom: // Shit I need to eat
Girl: // Me too
Terrorist: // Damn hunger mod.
It would ruin epic RP and stuff since most hunger mods are a 'Starve to death' mod. and if it modifies stats whats the point? Stats count for shit anyway cause everyone is paper thin, weak, and can only jog for 5-8 seconds.
You and Alucard both have good points, how about this then, if you eat food you get a temporary buff, but its not like you can start staking buffs like eating 200 suasages and then being able to be stronger than an exo.
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Quote from: Tom on 18-10-2010
Not really, Its like adding a day and night system, its more of an anoyance then its worth.
(IE): *Tom raises his gun at the guy with the hostage
Terrorist: If you do. . . She gets it
Girl: Please dont!
*The Terrorist laughs maniacally
*Toms stomache grumbles
*Girls stomache grumbles
*Terrorists stomache grumbles
Tom: // Shit I need to eat
Girl: // Me too
Terrorist: // Damn hunger mod.
It would ruin epic RP and stuff since most hunger mods are a 'Starve to death' mod. and if it modifies stats whats the point? Stats count for shit anyway cause everyone is paper thin, weak, and can only jog for 5-8 seconds.
You and Alucard both have good points, how about this then, if you eat food you get a temporary buff, but its not like you can start staking buffs like eating 200 suasages and then being able to be stronger than an exo.
Or, you can stop being lazy, and actually RP.
Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.
It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.
Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?
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Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.
It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.
Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?
Stalker was a DM game, in case you didn't know.
Quote from: Bielecki on 18-10-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.
It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.
Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?
I do. At least in CS when item condidtions did't matter to the trader. In CoP this ended when traders realised they where buying utter shit from me. I still picked up every gun I could find, just only those that where in good condition. Assuming we make items easy-ish to get, a condition system could be put in place for wepons and maby armour. This would limit people hoarding every gun they could find, as any self respecting trader wouldn't buy an Abakan that cant fire more than one shot without jaming.
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Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.
It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.
Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?
Sorry, people don't work like that. Make everyone equal, they bitch for more. They will continue to beg for more items to have an advantage over others. Can't do anything to fix that issue. You ever heard of the tactic in that game were players would fill corpses with items and drag them to bases? People wish to become rich, and they all want advantages over others. There is nothing you can do to fix that. But giving everyone items, any items, will just make more issues.
@Tom, the hunger mod wouldn't be that stupid. So stop thinking like that. If anything it would make you run slower and make you weaker. I also suggested it follow the Server's Clock. That way you don't need to feed every 5 minutes, more like every 2 hours.
It would be more realistic, like it should. You don't need to eat, but you will slowly become weaker over the hours while you play. I don't even know if you read my idea, or even tried to. It sounds like most people read up to 'Also a Hunger mod-' And they all respond "OMG! Noooooooooooooooo! Hunger mod iz stoopidz!"
Cause people shouldn't require a script to RP for them, And I have seen more RP recently with me making items easy to aquire then I have with no one having anything at all. Making items fuck all hard to get will make new players get insanely bored fast and cause them to leavenot to mention it will make people want to clutch to weapons and hold onto them and bitch when they die.
Quote from: Tom on 18-10-2010
Cause people shouldn't require a script to RP for them, And I have seen more RP recently with me making items easy to aquire then I have with no one having anything at all. Making items fuck all hard to get will make new players get insanely bored fast and cause them to leavenot to mention it will make people want to clutch to weapons and hold onto them and bitch when they die.
Again, the hunger mod wouldn't force you to eat. Just grab a piece of bread or two, and it eat it. You're done for the day.
And if new players get bored because it takes more then an hour to get a gun, then its their issue they don't have patience. SRP is turning into a item whoring game. No one can play without having a guns given to them.
Everyone has an addiction to items, and we need to get them off. If someone gets killed while wondering alone, well too bad. Such is life in the Zone.
Zone is supposed to be harsh. There are no giving trees.
This is just getting annoying, what I hear from other people everyday. So many issues. Always revolving around items.
Why do people go offtopic? Do you have a need to discuss this? Seriously.
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Why the fuck do all of you need the RP force fed to you?
"Oh papa Alucard, I can't possibly RP eating unless their is a script requiring me to! I am just to inept, and lazy!"
If you want to RP eating, do so, you don't need a fucking script to go, "Warrior needs food - badly!", I mean for fucks sake, are you all really so lazy that you literally can't take ten seconds to type, "/me eats some bread"?
Traders need higher paychecks, the higher their paycheck the more they get to send people on missions, the more missions they do, the higher rank as a trader they get, the higher rank as a trader, the more stuff they can sell. I.E. the traders will have a bigger incentive to give out missions to stalkers, and stimulate the economy.
Bring advance dupe back, because aren't RP'ing because there is nothing on the map, if you remove advance dupe, then why make an empty map? Factions don't make bases because they have to be set by an admin, or they'll have to do it all over again, i.e. no RP from them.
Redo the admin roster, shitty admins are active, and in high positions, good admins are inactive, and in high/low positions, with exceptions of course.
People need scripts to RP cause most of the players are too lazy.
Also, depending on the person, paychecks can help. Or do nothing at all.
Wait Wait Wait, So you are admiting you are too lazy to RP?
Quote from: Khorn on 24-10-2010
People need scripts to RP cause most of the players are too lazy.
Also, depending on the person, paychecks can help. Or do nothing at all.
Thank you for completely skimming my suggestion post, and then posting a completely uninformed opinion. You're a big help.
Also, forcing people to RP things that they shouldn't even be required to do in the first place, is a completely dumb, and fucked up thing.
Quote from: Tom on 24-10-2010
Wait Wait Wait, So you are admitting you are too lazy to RP?
Wait, let me rephrase what I said. People are too lazy to read anything.
Really, where did I say everyone, including myself, are too lazy?
Also, Alucard, what I was saying is that most people don't bother with the RP as much as they used to. Some do, most don't. Whenever I was in a bar, there were like 10 people inside. Only the trader and maybe 3 people said and did anything. And the so called 'Force Script' wouldn't cause anyone to be forced to do anything. They won't need to eat at all if they don't want to. But they can if they like to have somewhat better strength or speed. The script wouldn't kill you. It won't even say you are hungry if you don't want it. Have like a no notification check box.
As for the paychecks, as I said, it all depends on who is gonna use it. We had some traders hog all their cash and use it on themselves.
As for the advance dupe. It would be nice, but it caused issues. And with the current spawn a prop, lose a ruble. People will still not want to use it much. People don't build cause it has a buggy cost system. Even though its only a single ruble per item.
And as for the admin roster, I don't really know.
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Quote from: Tom on 24-10-2010
Wait Wait Wait, So you are admitting you are too lazy to RP?
Wait, let me rephrase what I said. People are too lazy to read anything.
Really, where did I say everyone, including myself, are too lazy?
Also, Alucard, what I was saying is that most people don't bother with the RP as much as they used to. Some do, most don't. Whenever I was in a bar, there were like 10 people inside. Only the trader and maybe 3 people said and did anything. And the so called 'Force Script' wouldn't cause anyone to be forced to do anything. They won't need to eat at all if they don't want to. But they can if they like to have somewhat better strength or speed. The script wouldn't kill you. It won't even say you are hungry if you don't want it. Have like a no notification check box.
As for the paychecks, as I said, it all depends on who is gonna use it. We had some traders hog all their cash and use it on themselves.
As for the advance dupe. It would be nice, but it caused issues. And with the current spawn a prop, lose a ruble. People will still not want to use it much. People don't build cause it has a buggy cost system. Even though its only a single ruble per item.
And as for the admin roster, I don't really know.
Do you know how much we can all buy with that 4 rubles we will be saving off of advanced dupes!?!?!?!
Actually it would be like how much one could buy with the 100+ rubles most of the advanced dupes would have cost in the doomfort era.
1. Make the sunrise suit cheaper then the mercenary suits.
2. We all know the sunrise is more common then the rookie one, Its way to expensive, Hardly anyone has it.
3. Make all the detector's item's, So people will have to buy one in order to have one icly.
4. Make the guitar play a sound when used. Like rp_voice sorta.
5. Anomolies, Do not destroy guns.
Quote from: Turkey on 24-10-2010
1. Make the sunrise suit cheaper then the mercenary suits.
2. We all know the sunrise is more common then the rookie one, Its way to expensive, Hardly anyone has it.
3. Make all the detector's item's, So people will have to buy one in order to have one icly.
4. Make the guitar play a sound when used. Like rp_voice sorta.
5. Anomolies, Do not destroy guns.
In stalker the sunrise suit is better then the mercenary suit.
Quote from: Khorn on 24-10-2010
Quote from: Tom on 24-10-2010
Wait Wait Wait, So you are admitting you are too lazy to RP?
Wait, let me rephrase what I said. People are too lazy to read anything.
Really, where did I say everyone, including myself, are too lazy?
Also, Alucard, what I was saying is that most people don't bother with the RP as much as they used to. Some do, most don't. Whenever I was in a bar, there were like 10 people inside. Only the trader and maybe 3 people said and did anything. And the so called 'Force Script' wouldn't cause anyone to be forced to do anything. They won't need to eat at all if they don't want to. But they can if they like to have somewhat better strength or speed. The script wouldn't kill you. It won't even say you are hungry if you don't want it. Have like a no notification check box.
As for the paychecks, as I said, it all depends on who is gonna use it. We had some traders hog all their cash and use it on themselves.
As for the advance dupe. It would be nice, but it caused issues. And with the current spawn a prop, lose a ruble. People will still not want to use it much. People don't build cause it has a buggy cost system. Even though its only a single ruble per item.
And as for the admin roster, I don't really know.
1.) If you think its a good idea to give players an advantage for having more money then you tthen you clearly don't understand what rp even is.
2.) Did you even read what I posted, because it clearly states that they can only advance tiers by giving missions, meaning the traders who horde will only get to sell beer, and food, such fun.
3.) Why that is even part of the script is beyond me.
If you mean an advantage because they actually ate some food, well then good for them. I'm not sure how much food cost currently in SRP, since I play Mono mostly, and haven't been on as much due to college. Maybe its expensive right now, but I'm just basing it off my last idea for the server economy, where food was relatively cheap to get, as in scavenge a pile of trash, and you get enough to buy a day's meal.
As for the trader thing, I can only hope the players are giving out missions. Again, I play mono, so I don't go visit any bars.
And the dupe being removed had a mix of good and bad. Doom forts, crashes, and general spam was removed. Easy reconstruction, always the same build, and something else. Same for the pay per prop thing. It makes sense, but is just really annoying.
Quote from: Khorn on 25-10-2010
If you mean an advantage because they actually ate some food, well then good for them. I'm not sure how much food cost currently in SRP, since I play Mono mostly, and haven't been on as much due to college. Maybe its expensive right now, but I'm just basing it off my last idea for the server economy, where food was relatively cheap to get, as in scavenge a pile of trash, and you get enough to buy a day's meal.
As for the trader thing, I can only hope the players are giving out missions. Again, I play mono, so I don't go visit any bars.
And the dupe being removed had a mix of good and bad. Doom forts, crashes, and general spam was removed. Easy reconstruction, always the same build, and something else. Same for the pay per prop thing. It makes sense, but is just really annoying.
So basically you've been making an opinion based on something you've not yet experienced? Very reassuring.
I have experienced, just not recently. I haven't been able to get any jobs with my stalker. As for food, it was usually handed out for free at the bars(when I was with Freedom), so eating was never an issue for me. I'd do it once a day if I was on for more then a couple of hours.
I RP eating at least 1 meal whenever I am on, and as far as other people doing it I don't give a flying fuck what they do, As long as they arn't minging/being unserious I am fine. Adding an eating script won't fix peoples RP its not the root of all evil at all, it would also run rookies and new players into the ground with the current cost. SO in conclusion it should be relatively EASY for little johnny the newby RPer to start up and get training from his fellow RPers.
Why do we not see any decent RPers? Cause everytime a new guy gets on no one bothers to teach them and I am ussally busy with other shit on the server. Don't like the fact people don't RP eating? Simply teach them how.
Plunger stop trolling. Originally you were actually making points and now you are just looking for something to argue about.
And to answer your question Khorn food is more expensive than ammo currently. A lot more expensive than ammo. And ammo actually is needed. That is why people don't buy food.
1. Bandits,need more of em.cause when somebody donates,-he is merc.
2. Ammo in shipment,wtf,and lower price for it.
3. Sector42 or hgn_chernobyl is better than redemption..well..
4. Remove junk and paycheck,why should stalker-rookie get some paycheck?who is paying them?
5. Moar ppl on server :(
Jesus fuck you guys this "Stop paying paychecks" argument is retarded. It is a GAMEPLAY mechanic to allow new players to make some money. Without it things go to shit quicker than they usually do because ammo is too expensive.
Paint, it may be annoying, but this is a "5 things YOU want" thread. Its all opinions, if Exile likes any he will choose. But it ain't fair to tell others to shut up when they express their opinions.
You like paychecks, others don't. Let them express there ideas.
It's obnoxious because it keeps going back and forth and often the people saying "Hey let's remove paychecks" are then the same people who bitch and moan about not being able to earn money. Given the effort it took for me and others to get Silver to fix the economy (or at least make it less broken than it was) seeing people demand it be removed is annoying since I know down the line the other side will start whining again.
Thing is, it will just keep happening. Yea it may drive you up a wall, but its just an opinion. As for the bitching, there is always a complaint for something. You can't escape from whining.
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Quote from: Sickness on 30-10-2010
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So, you came back to get power?
How nice of you.