Philosophical discussion, GO.

Started by Spades_Neil, 19-04-2012

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Corocan

Quote from: Khorn on 22-04-2012
Honestly, the last thing I would do is ask serious questions to kids that are most likely at the point in time, where they think they know the answer to everything.



You know, middle/high school times.
College for late bloomers.




Just saying.
Sometimes kids are the most creative. And with questions like this, solid logic just doesn't cut it.

Ragolution

I know the meaning of life.

Does anyone want to know what it is?

nKe

#52
The meaning of life is to make it to the end alive.
End? End depends on the person. Some may die after 5 minutes they have born, some may die in the hands of others.
Still, it is the end and the person made it there alive.

jaik

Quote from: Nik3 on 22-04-2012
The meaning of life is to make it to the end alive.
End? End depends on the person. Some may die after 5 minutes they have born, some may die in the hands of others.
Still, it is the end and the person made it there alive.

So you're implying that every person has a predefined path that inevitably leads to death. What about the people that don't reach the ending?
Blake.H: And im also working on whipping him into shape
Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
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nKe

Quote from: Jake on 22-04-2012
What about the people that don't reach the ending?
What do you even mean?
Immortality?

Spades_Neil

#55
I've edited my original post to include some alternatives people have brought up to the "meaning of life" question. A few of you think there is no meaning! Depressing as that is, it's still valid to the discussion, so I welcome it. Others think we don't start with a meaning, but bring it into existence. Others debate on what the universal meaning of life for human kind could be.

So far I like where the thread is going.

Quote from: Ragolution on 22-04-2012
I know the meaning of life.

Does anyone want to know what it is?

If you have an opinion on the matter, that's what the thread is for. Do share. I'm legitimately interested in your response.

Ragolution

#56
Before I give you the "answer", this requires a short diatribe to explain what the fuck I am talking about.

The meaning of "Life" on the whole, of things that are living, is to, yes, Reproduce but Humans are of a higher intelligence (obviously) and so we tell ourselves, as we are not so simple as the more dullardly of creatures on this planet, we clearly have a greater purpose. People who say Humanity's only purpose is to reproduce or die are what's wrong with this country and the world. They are cynics, they are fatalists and they are invariably utilitarians who need a good punch. Pessimism is good but when you're so jaded that life is pointless, you've reached the deep end of the pool.

The Bible, in part, gives humanity its purpose in life. I'd argue that some wise ass caveman wrote the bible and formulated religion to motivate humanity. It's useful for that if nothing else.

If the bible is your basis for the meaning of life, I think you need to reconsider your views. Strongly.

To the people who are saying "Life is what you make of it", you'd be mostly right. Life is what we make it but even more than that. When considering life you can't simply make it come down to one tenant and say THAT IS THE CORRECT PURPOSE OF EVERYONE (unless we're somehow the zerg-like slave race of some extraterrestrial being or something like that and are effectively machines...)

Well, I mean, I guess I'll try. That's the point of posting, after all.

The meaning of Human Intelligence and in turn Human Life and existance is to slowly approach perfection.

There is nothing time has taught us more than that humans are slowly making ourselves better, technologically and that everyone has differing version of such 'betterness'. Through you entire life, you learn and you grow mentally, physically and emotionally; You approach human perfection or aspire to do so. Before people start spouting that "Perfection is impossible" I'll come out and say I agree, perfection cannot be achieved in the current lifetime humans have, but we need to look beyond ourselves. There's this thing, it's called selflessness, it used to be really popular...

Beyond that?

We might have a greater destiny in the cosmic scheme to colonize the entire galaxy, or even the entire universe. At such a point, humanity could become so perfect that we ascend to godhood or a facsimile of that unobtainable status.

And after that, what's the point?

You got me.

Spades_Neil

Quote from: Ragolution on 22-04-2012
Something pretty brilliant.

Very well said Ragolution. Though I may have to disappoint you because I have no counter-points sufficient enough to give you argument. Maybe it's because I agree too much to debate it.

Anyone else want to try arguing this one?

Khorn

Comic Form of what I was going on about.


Wolfie

#59
I'd go with 42. And until we all die, the purpose of life is to 'achieve' power, money, women, technology and the rest of that hogwash.


Or let's go with reproduction. you say 'culture' negates that. yet in most cultures, for example Germany back in dem Nazi days it's purpose was to encurge breeding. Now before you pull 'OMG HITLERSHIT', think about it, music, TV, everything idolizes reproduction. This also kind of fits in with the 'Altruism' theory I' reading about, the cynical die off or alow their youth to die, and so on. As said, it works the same way here. If you refuse the notion of reproduction, or do not engage in it frequently, your line of genetics will die off. :\
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jaik

Quote from: Wolfie on 24-04-2012
Or let's go with reproduction. you say 'culture' negates that. yet in most cultures, for example Germany back in dem Nazi days it's purpose was to encurge breeding.

Did you just say that National Socialist propaganda holds the meaning of life here? I don't think it really works that way... and Germany needed that manpower pool for their expansionist policy, nothing less.
Blake.H: And im also working on whipping him into shape
Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
Blake.H: The sheer obedience is enough to fuel my erection anyway

Spades_Neil

Oh god.

We're going into controversial territory here.

Legitimate replies though. Have fun. I'll get the fire extinguisher if it gets too heated.

Khorn

Controversial territory?

Ha, funny Spades, funny.

Wolfie

Quote from: Jake on 24-04-2012
Quote from: Wolfie on 24-04-2012
Or let's go with reproduction. you say 'culture' negates that. yet in most cultures, for example Germany back in dem Nazi days it's purpose was to encurge breeding.

Did you just say that National Socialist propaganda holds the meaning of life here? I don't think it really works that way... and Germany needed that manpower pool for their expansionist policy, nothing less.


I never said socialist. Even in current culture, most art is related to reproduction, in varying ways. Past that, yeah, Germany did need the population, but that really isn't the point. :\
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Guan- Your favorite Chinese scavenger, has a obsession with rumors of the Shi, as well as combat knives.

Tiberius- The annoying gear-lover.