Let us start with a very simple question with a very wide variety of replies. I will proceed to play devil's advocate upon whatever that topic may be. (Unless it's just stupid, like defending Nazis or racism. Save that for the GVC.)
Now, we begin.
What is the meaning of life?
Is there a meaning to life by default, or do we create it? Is there a meaning at all?
What are your opinions on the responses of your peers?
(Remember playing Devil's Advocate means I'll question anything and everything you say and attempt to find problems with it, even if I agree with it.)
Joke: 42
Not joke: Reproduce to keep reproducing.
And thats all I will say.
Quote from: Khorn on 19-04-2012
Not joke: Reproduce to keep reproducing.
Well that's a little boring now isn't it? :P Challenge accepted anyway.
If this is so, then what of mankind's conquest for knowledge and creativity? Why then, music? Art? Literature? Mathematics? Astronomy? Why do we ask the questions we do? How do lives who never reproduce or feel the need to even reproduce still find meaning within themselves? Surely there is more to life than merely having offspring.
QuoteLife
noun
1.
the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.
2.
the sum of the distinguishing phenomena of organisms, especially metabolism, growth, reproduction, and adaptation to environment.
3.
the animate existence or period of animate existence of an individual: to risk one's life; a short life and a merry one.
4.
a corresponding state, existence, or principle of existence conceived of as belonging to the soul: eternal life.
5.
the general or universal condition of human existence: Too bad, but life is like that.
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To live.
Once a human reaches the age of thirty and has had at least one healthy child, their life, by Earth's standards, is complete.
The meaning of life is to spend it.
Quote from: Khorn on 19-04-2012
Not joke: Reproduce to keep reproducing.
That. Otherwise the meaning of life is whatever the fuck you want it to be. The only "standard" in nature is reproduction. Beyond that do whatever you want.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 19-04-2012
Quote from: Khorn on 19-04-2012
Not joke: Reproduce to keep reproducing.
Well that's a little boring now isn't it? :P Challenge accepted anyway.
If this is so, then what of mankind's conquest for knowledge and creativity? Why then, music? Art? Literature? Mathematics? Astronomy? Why do we ask the questions we do? How do lives who never reproduce or feel the need to even reproduce still find meaning within themselves? Surely there is more to life than merely having offspring.
I actually have something to say about that.
What you listed is a byproduct of beings not reproducing. You know something to keep you distracted until your next encounter. Also if you created something in your down time that others liked, it shows your superiority over others, meaning more reproducing for you.
Things that help keep you and your offspring from wilting away and such. Those that can't or won't reproduce are 'mutations'. Things that aren't meant to keep going. Unwanted basically.
Survival of this fittest.
Life is essentially matter that can manipulate itself, and in the cases of humans and other intelligent animals, matter that is self aware. Is there meaning in this? Is there a reason for matter to behave in this manner? Does it have a goal or an end? Is there a reason that you as a person, are different from the ground on which you stand, or is it merely coincidence? I don't pretend to know the answers. Humans are far from discovering why-if there even is a reason-life exists.
In all likelihood the meaning of life is far too profound for humans to understand. Until the day comes when humankind is ready to know the answers, we'll just have to make up our own. You can say life exists for the sake of existing, you could say that you give your own life meaning, you could even say life has no meaning. Until such a time as the answer is definitively proven, no answer can be conclusively proven false. However, they cannot conclusively be proven true either.
As a result, there are no right or wrong answers, just answers.
The meaning of life can be split into two things, matter and one other thing.
People are not wearing enough hats.
This is a trick question, "What is the meaning of life" we usually awnser this on a view as a whole and not on the view of a individual. The awnser: Everything.
What is life? The production of a life which begins from birth to the end which is death.
What does one do during life?: Thats upto the individual, children, gamble, play, gaming, have jobs, everything which we are capable.
Combine the two and what do you get? Life can only be what the individual wants to do, to spend there life on. Think of life like a currency, we spend money on food and other items of intrest. We spend our life (Time) on things we want to do. And thats what life is. A currency that is actually a thing called time to which we spend on matters of our own personal intrest. (Why do I have a holy aura around me now, what is this?)
That is a question that one should keep questioning and never to find answer to. Maybe one will learn something through inquiring it.
Seems to me this a thread in which those who want speak about things they know nothing about.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 19-04-2012
What is the meaning of life?
To get as much as possible GEAR, in the world.
kthxbai
Post something serious or GTFO.
Quote from: Plunger on 20-04-2012
Seems to me this a thread in which those who want speak about things they know nothing about.
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You must be new to this.
Quote from: Predu on 20-04-2012
That is a question that one should keep questioning and never to find answer to. Maybe one will learn something through inquiring it.
Philosophy in a nutshell.
Quote from: Khorn on 19-04-2012
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 19-04-2012
Quote from: Khorn on 19-04-2012
Not joke: Reproduce to keep reproducing.
Well that's a little boring now isn't it? :P Challenge accepted anyway.
If this is so, then what of mankind's conquest for knowledge and creativity? Why then, music? Art? Literature? Mathematics? Astronomy? Why do we ask the questions we do? How do lives who never reproduce or feel the need to even reproduce still find meaning within themselves? Surely there is more to life than merely having offspring.
I actually have something to say about that.
What you listed is a byproduct of beings not reproducing. You know something to keep you distracted until your next encounter. Also if you created something in your down time that others liked, it shows your superiority over others, meaning more reproducing for you.
Things that help keep you and your offspring from wilting away and such. Those that can't or won't reproduce are 'mutations'. Things that aren't meant to keep going. Unwanted basically.
Survival of this fittest.
Hopefully I don't end up neglecting parts of your response with my own, but if I can properly sum up your final point of "survival of the fittest" then why does the world waste its time caring for those clearly not fit to live? People beyond their prime, beyond their ability to reproduce especially, or people who have never had that capability such as those born disabled. Some scientists believe the human race has stopped evolving. Why do soldiers go to war? Some have children, some don't. Is it really just about our own offspring? Perhaps instead it is more about the good of the species as a whole? Though if we take that route, we can go into another quagmire of questions about the real nature of human beings.
Quote from: Lent23 on 19-04-2012
Once a human reaches the age of thirty and has had at least one healthy child, their life, by Earth's standards, is complete.
So why not simply kill ourselves by then? :P In fact let me use this to further Khorn's question. What about those who have
completed that standard? Yet, while they are fully capable of mating, some even still doing so, their meaning becomes diverted elsewhere. Is the meaning of their lives still necessarily about their offspring?
Anyway I want to get to Madcombat's response but I need to get to class first. Incidentally, Philosophy class. Be back in a few hours. Discuss and debate amongst yourselves while I am gone.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Anyway I want to get to Madcombat's response but I need to get to class first. Incidentally, Philosophy class. Be back in a few hours. Discuss and debate amongst yourselves while I am gone.
This explains so much about you spades, so much.
Mass Effect 3 Reapers. And yes, I'm serious. Question that Spades.
Killing robots killing sentients so that robots won't kill sentients.
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-04-2012
Mass Effect 3 Reapers. And yes, I'm serious. Question that Spades.
Killing robots killing sentients so that robots won't kill sentients.
Challenge accepted. Look out your window. See the lovely outside world? Even if it's raining. Find the beauty in the droplets of water as they fall to the earth below. If the meaning of your life revolves around Mas Effect 3, what becomes of your life when you inevitably must move on?
Spades has lost his mind, STOP HIM AT ONCE!
Last warning. Stop trolling the thread with crap posts or I'm banning you from posting for a day.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-04-2012
Mass Effect 3 Reapers. And yes, I'm serious. Question that Spades.
Killing robots killing sentients so that robots won't kill sentients.
Challenge accepted. Look out your window. See the lovely outside world? Even if it's raining. Find the beauty in the droplets of water as they fall to the earth below. If the meaning of your life revolves around Mas Effect 3, what becomes of your life when you inevitably must move on?
You wildly misread his post.
Quote from: Plunger on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-04-2012
Mass Effect 3 Reapers. And yes, I'm serious. Question that Spades.
Killing robots killing sentients so that robots won't kill sentients.
Challenge accepted. Look out your window. See the lovely outside world? Even if it's raining. Find the beauty in the droplets of water as they fall to the earth below. If the meaning of your life revolves around Mas Effect 3, what becomes of your life when you inevitably must move on?
You wildly misread his post.
Let me be more helpful. You misread his post a little, he ment about the boys logic in ME3 that was about reapers killing sentient life so that Sentient life could flurish stopping robots like the reapers from killing Sentient life. It had nothing to do with the actual topic question, it was just to do with ME3's terrible ending.
FIXEDA more friendly edit.
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Quote from: Plunger on 20-04-2012
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Quote from: lolKieck on 20-04-2012
Mass Effect 3 Reapers. And yes, I'm serious. Question that Spades.
Killing robots killing sentients so that robots won't kill sentients.
Challenge accepted. Look out your window. See the lovely outside world? Even if it's raining. Find the beauty in the droplets of water as they fall to the earth below. If the meaning of your life revolves around Mas Effect 3, what becomes of your life when you inevitably must move on?
You wildly misread his post.
Let me be more helpful. You misread his post a little, he ment about the boys logic in ME3 that was about reapers killing sentient life so that Sentient life could flurish stopping robots like the reapers from killing Sentient life. It had nothing to do with the actual topic question, it was just to do with ME3's terrible ending.
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A more friendly edit.
And you apparently mislead my tone as friendly, and you still misread lolKiecks post. It wasn't about ME3 being bad. Spades, and you either need glasses or corrective surgery.
Quote from: Madcombat on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-04-2012
Mass Effect 3 Reapers. And yes, I'm serious. Question that Spades.
Killing robots killing sentients so that robots won't kill sentients.
Challenge accepted. Look out your window. See the lovely outside world? Even if it's raining. Find the beauty in the droplets of water as they fall to the earth below. If the meaning of your life revolves around Mas Effect 3, what becomes of your life when you inevitably must move on?
You wildly misread his post.
Let me be more helpful. You misread his post a little, he ment about the boys logic in ME3 that was about reapers killing sentient life so that Sentient life could flurish stopping robots like the reapers from killing Sentient life. It had nothing to do with the actual topic question, it was just to do with ME3's terrible ending.
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A more friendly INFORMATIVE edit.
A more informative edit. There, does that suit you?
AND how do you read it then Plunger, please tell us.
Quote from: Madcombat on 20-04-2012
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Quote from: Plunger on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-04-2012
Mass Effect 3 Reapers. And yes, I'm serious. Question that Spades.
Killing robots killing sentients so that robots won't kill sentients.
Challenge accepted. Look out your window. See the lovely outside world? Even if it's raining. Find the beauty in the droplets of water as they fall to the earth below. If the meaning of your life revolves around Mas Effect 3, what becomes of your life when you inevitably must move on?
You wildly misread his post.
Let me be more helpful. You misread his post a little, he ment about the boys logic in ME3 that was about reapers killing sentient life so that Sentient life could flurish stopping robots like the reapers from killing Sentient life. It had nothing to do with the actual topic question, it was just to do with ME3's terrible ending.
FIXED
A more friendly INFORMATIVE edit.
A more informative edit. There, does that suit you?
AND how do you read it then Plunger, please tell us.
He's talking about the ending of Mass Effect 3 where the Reapers explain their sole purpose in life is to exterminate organics before they make synthetics that will kill the organics. They do have a meaning in life, it's just hard to interpret properly, and understand.
So ugh, what I said right?
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Quote from: Madcombat on 20-04-2012
So ugh, what I said right?
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No, you just stupidly said, "He was saying the ending of mass effect 3 was bad.", and please stop putting in all the stupid pictures with your posts.
So, we are not entitled to share our opinions and debate on a serious debates thread. We also arnt allowed to state what we interpret from a post because its not what you interpret (Although they are practically the same.) Mhm, sounds legit.
Anyway, Spades come at me Bro, try and right fully debate why my understanding of the meaning of life must be wrong or have holes in. I await you!
Quote from: Madcombat on 20-04-2012
So, we are not entitled to share our opinions and debate on a serious debates thread. We also arnt allowed to state what we interpret from a post because its not what you interpret (Although they are practically the same.) Mhm, sounds legit.
Anyway, Spades come at me Bro, try and right fully debate why my understanding of the meaning of life must be wrong or have holes in. I await you!
You two didn't actually try to interpret it, you just said he was saying the ending of ME3 was bad (He wasn't.), and Spades said he needs to stop wasting life on games. Those weren't interpretations in the slightest.
Maybe the reason I misinterpreted the video game reference is because I don't play that video game?
Quote from: Plunger on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Madcombat on 20-04-2012
So, we are not entitled to share our opinions and debate on a serious debates thread. We also arnt allowed to state what we interpret from a post because its not what you interpret (Although they are practically the same.) Mhm, sounds legit.
Anyway, Spades come at me Bro, try and right fully debate why my understanding of the meaning of life must be wrong or have holes in. I await you!
You two didn't actually try to interpret it, you just said he was saying the ending of ME3 was bad (He wasn't.), and Spades said he needs to stop wasting life on games. Those weren't interpretations in the slightest.
The irony is that Spades is actually a Fallout Supervisor.
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Plunger on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Madcombat on 20-04-2012
So, we are not entitled to share our opinions and debate on a serious debates thread. We also arnt allowed to state what we interpret from a post because its not what you interpret (Although they are practically the same.) Mhm, sounds legit.
Anyway, Spades come at me Bro, try and right fully debate why my understanding of the meaning of life must be wrong or have holes in. I await you!
You two didn't actually try to interpret it, you just said he was saying the ending of ME3 was bad (He wasn't.), and Spades said he needs to stop wasting life on games. Those weren't interpretations in the slightest.
The irony is that Spades is actually a Fallout Supervisor.
Remember I'm playing devil's advocate. If I were serious about telling you to not waste life on video games, I'd be a hypocrite at its finest. :P
Philosophy quickly ends up this way - everybody starts flaming each other.
Quote from: Jake on 20-04-2012
Philosophy quickly ends up this way - everybody starts flaming each other.
/thread
See how
Sophocles Socrates ended up.
Bloody Antigone.
Quote from: Jake on 20-04-2012
Philosophy quickly ends up this way - everybody starts flaming each other.
That's what happens when fools attempt to question the ways of the world, unfortunately. When they disagree, they start slinging insults. What of you though Jake? What is your take on the meaning of life? I've known you to be one of the more thoughtful individuals in HGN. Perhaps you'd have an intelligent response to this thread.
The meaning of life is to make it through alive.
Go and figure.
Quote from: Nik3 on 20-04-2012
The meaning of life is to make it through alive.
Go and figure.
Then what of the martyrs in the world? Those who give their lives to help others.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Jake on 20-04-2012
Philosophy quickly ends up this way - everybody starts flaming each other.
That's what happens when fools attempt to question the ways of the world, unfortunately. When they disagree, they start slinging insults. What of you though Jake? What is your take on the meaning of life? I've known you to be one of the more thoughtful individuals in HGN. Perhaps you'd have an intelligent response to this thread.
Actually, I had the very first reply probably a few minutes after you posted the thread. I decided to back down and remove it however because of what you can see happening right now.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 20-04-2012
The meaning of life is to make it through alive.
Go and figure.
Then what of the martyrs in the world? Those who give their lives to help others.
They have obviously misread the instructions.
I really think there is no definate "meaning" for life. One will simply do what one wishes to do with his life.
Quoteit's whatever motives you to live, depends solely on parenting and development of the person as a child.
-Jake
Its true.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 20-04-2012
Quote from: Nik3 on 20-04-2012
The meaning of life is to make it through alive.
Go and figure.
Then what of the martyrs in the world? Those who give their lives to help others.
It is the path they have chosen and their life was ment to end to their actions.
Like I said for own response, those unable or unwilling to bear offsrping are mutations.
Those that attempt to preserve them are either blinded by the byproducts of life, or are simple trying to show superiority above others that can't preserve others.
Again, byproducts and mutations. Deviations from the goal.
Quote from: Khorn on 20-04-2012
Like I said for own response, those unable or unwilling to bear offsrping are mutations.
Those that attempt to preserve them are either blinded by the byproducts of life, or are simple trying to show superiority above others that can't preserve others.
Again, byproducts and mutations. Deviations from the goal.
You're making the assumption life itself has a goal, or a greater purpose. Reproduction is a life process, not a life goal. To speak of the meaning of life is not questioning what the goals of organisms are. It questions the very meaning of the
idea of life. It asks why life even exists, not what life forms are driven to do. To understand why life is, we first must gain a total understanding of
what life is. Sure we have a pretty good understanding of what life on our planet is, but there is a great possibility that there are completely different, even contrary forms of life. "Unlife" if you will. It is entirely possible that forms of "unlife" exist. Things that couldn't, or things that shouldn't be alive by our definitions.
I hate to reference television, but the "Cylons" form the television series "Battlestar Galactica" are a prime example of life that could exist outside our definition. Despite the fact that they are made in such a different way, they are so similar that they could be considered alive, but at the same time, are considered machines. It's quite possible that there are factual creatures that exist in our universe similar to the fictional "Cylons". We see the idea of "unlife" all the time in today's culture. Examples of "unlife" like vampires, or Frankenstein's monster. Creatures that are not considered alive by human standards, but still exist in an almost identical fashion of what we consider life to be. They are not alive in the human sense, yet they cannot be considered dead. So are they alive, or are they something else? It is entirely possible that different forms of life exist in a manner that is entirely alien to the human understanding. Another example in culture is the Transformers, non biological yet their nature is almost identical to humans. They can die, they feel pain, yet, they are excluded from the definition of life. This is all theoretical of course, but in the infinite vastness of the universe it is not only possible, but likely that such things exist.
The main point I'm trying to make is that as of our position right now, human kind is in no position to discover the meaning of life. Just as we cannot achieve perfection, life will remain a mystery for us for centuries to come. We may only learn the truth after we have become more than we are now. Whether is be evolution, or apotheosis, human kind will have to advance before we can find the answers.
There's a great big world out there, and we can make what we want of it. Find your own answers.
When I say goal, I don't mean the goal for life.
Its just what we are here to do.
*Cough*
Life has no meaning. It's just here. Did I blow your mind?
Quote from: HitMan5523 on 20-04-2012
*Cough*
Life has no meaning. It's just here. Did I blow your mind?
If life has no meaning then why bother living at all? :P
We can give life a meaning if we want to but it's not mandatory.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 21-04-2012
Quote from: HitMan5523 on 20-04-2012
*Cough*
Life has no meaning. It's just here. Did I blow your mind?
If life has no meaning then why bother living at all? :P
Stop encouraging members to commit suicide.I
said quit trolling the thread. Instead you just come back and edit the post back again. Enjoy your ban.
Going to just quote some folks who did all the thinking before I showed up to reply. These are just some responses I liked.
Quote from: Gonztah on 21-04-2012
We can give life a meaning if we want to but it's not mandatory.
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I really think there is no definate "meaning" for life. One will simply do what one wishes to do with his life.
I believe the meaning of life is to find a way so that we may mutually exist. Human nature is defiant. That's why we're evil by human nature, too. We're told that the meaning to life cannot be answered, so we search for our existence even when we're told "It cannot be done" and yet, we do it. A never ending struggle to discover who we are and why we exist. I believe the meaning of life is evil. It's something that we shouldn't understand, but who am I to convert an entire species nature?
Honestly, the last thing I would do is ask serious questions to kids that are most likely at the point in time, where they think they know the answer to everything.
You know, middle/high school times.
College for late bloomers.
Just saying.
Quote from: Khorn on 22-04-2012
Honestly, the last thing I would do is ask serious questions to kids that are most likely at the point in time, where they think they know the answer to everything.
You know, middle/high school times.
College for late bloomers.
Just saying.
Sometimes kids are the most creative. And with questions like this, solid logic just doesn't cut it.
I know the meaning of life.
Does anyone want to know what it is?
The meaning of life is to make it to the end alive.
End? End depends on the person. Some may die after 5 minutes they have born, some may die in the hands of others.
Still, it is the end and the person made it there alive.
Quote from: Nik3 on 22-04-2012
The meaning of life is to make it to the end alive.
End? End depends on the person. Some may die after 5 minutes they have born, some may die in the hands of others.
Still, it is the end and the person made it there alive.
So you're implying that every person has a predefined path that inevitably leads to death. What about the people that don't reach the ending?
Quote from: Jake on 22-04-2012
What about the people that don't reach the ending?
What do you even mean?
Immortality?
I've edited my original post to include some alternatives people have brought up to the "meaning of life" question. A few of you think there is no meaning! Depressing as that is, it's still valid to the discussion, so I welcome it. Others think we don't start with a meaning, but bring it into existence. Others debate on what the universal meaning of life for human kind could be.
So far I like where the thread is going.
Quote from: Ragolution on 22-04-2012
I know the meaning of life.
Does anyone want to know what it is?
If you have an opinion on the matter, that's what the thread is for. Do share. I'm legitimately interested in your response.
Before I give you the "answer", this requires a short diatribe to explain what the fuck I am talking about.
The meaning of "Life" on the whole, of things that are living, is to, yes, Reproduce but Humans are of a higher intelligence (obviously) and so we tell ourselves, as we are not so simple as the more dullardly of creatures on this planet, we clearly have a greater purpose. People who say Humanity's only purpose is to reproduce or die are what's wrong with this country and the world. They are cynics, they are fatalists and they are invariably utilitarians who need a good punch. Pessimism is good but when you're so jaded that life is pointless, you've reached the deep end of the pool.
The Bible, in part, gives humanity its purpose in life. I'd argue that some wise ass caveman wrote the bible and formulated religion to motivate humanity. It's useful for that if nothing else.
If the bible is your basis for the meaning of life, I think you need to reconsider your views. Strongly.
To the people who are saying "Life is what you make of it", you'd be mostly right. Life is what we make it but even more than that. When considering life you can't simply make it come down to one tenant and say THAT IS THE CORRECT PURPOSE OF EVERYONE (unless we're somehow the zerg-like slave race of some extraterrestrial being or something like that and are effectively machines...)
Well, I mean, I guess I'll try. That's the point of posting, after all.
The meaning of Human Intelligence and in turn Human Life and existance is to slowly approach perfection.
There is nothing time has taught us more than that humans are slowly making ourselves better, technologically and that everyone has differing version of such 'betterness'. Through you entire life, you learn and you grow mentally, physically and emotionally; You approach human perfection or aspire to do so. Before people start spouting that "Perfection is impossible" I'll come out and say I agree, perfection cannot be achieved in the current lifetime humans have, but we need to look beyond ourselves. There's this thing, it's called selflessness, it used to be really popular...
Beyond that?
We might have a greater destiny in the cosmic scheme to colonize the entire galaxy, or even the entire universe. At such a point, humanity could become so perfect that we ascend to godhood or a facsimile of that unobtainable status.
And after that, what's the point?
You got me.
Quote from: Ragolution on 22-04-2012
Something pretty brilliant.
Very well said Ragolution. Though I may have to disappoint you because I have no counter-points sufficient enough to give you argument. Maybe it's because I agree too much to debate it.
Anyone else want to try arguing this one?
Comic Form of what I was going on about.
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I'd go with 42. And until we all die, the purpose of life is to 'achieve' power, money, women, technology and the rest of that hogwash.
Or let's go with reproduction. you say 'culture' negates that. yet in most cultures, for example Germany back in dem Nazi days it's purpose was to encurge breeding. Now before you pull 'OMG HITLERSHIT', think about it, music, TV, everything idolizes reproduction. This also kind of fits in with the 'Altruism' theory I' reading about, the cynical die off or alow their youth to die, and so on. As said, it works the same way here. If you refuse the notion of reproduction, or do not engage in it frequently, your line of genetics will die off. :\
Quote from: Wolfie on 24-04-2012
Or let's go with reproduction. you say 'culture' negates that. yet in most cultures, for example Germany back in dem Nazi days it's purpose was to encurge breeding.
Did you just say that National Socialist propaganda holds the meaning of life here? I don't think it really works that way... and Germany needed that manpower pool for their expansionist policy, nothing less.
Oh god.
We're going into controversial territory here.
Legitimate replies though. Have fun. I'll get the fire extinguisher if it gets too heated.
Controversial territory?
Ha, funny Spades, funny.
Quote from: Jake on 24-04-2012
Quote from: Wolfie on 24-04-2012
Or let's go with reproduction. you say 'culture' negates that. yet in most cultures, for example Germany back in dem Nazi days it's purpose was to encurge breeding.
Did you just say that National Socialist propaganda holds the meaning of life here? I don't think it really works that way... and Germany needed that manpower pool for their expansionist policy, nothing less.
I never said socialist. Even in current culture, most art is related to reproduction, in varying ways. Past that, yeah, Germany did need the population, but that really isn't the point. :\