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Reply #1 on: 16-08-2010
Knowing you Exile, I bet you don't approve.



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Reply #2 on: 16-08-2010
Obama is a sick bastard, He can go straight to hell for what he has done to this country.



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Reply #3 on: 16-08-2010
Obama is a sick bastard, He can go straight to hell for what he has done to this country.

Wrong.

Obama, he has some pretty valid points. Americans blame all Muslims just because some psychos who are not good in the head decided to blow up their twin towers and kill them selves. There is also talk about Bush being involved in that and being guilty. Not to mention incindeary(don't have a clue how to spell it) grenades that were heard by the janitor. Look it up on youtube there was an investigation, If America decides to be a Muslim hating and killing nation then by all means they are as bad as the terrorists are. There will always be terrorists, no matter what religion. Those who are like I said not good in the head. Not to mention how media twists and turns the story and tries to make Obama guilty as much as possible. Everyone has a right to choose any religion they like and believe in whatever they want as it's in human nature to believe into something.

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Freedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion. Freedom of religion is considered by many people and nations to be a fundamental human right. Thomas Jefferson said (1807) "among the inestimable of our blessings, also, is that ...of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable to His will; ..." In a country with a state religion, freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion, and does not persecute believers in other faiths.

Also Binladen, I don't know if you lot watch National Geographic but one of the soldiers who was assigned to a team to capture him was ordered from the top to stand down and not move into the complex in which Binladen was. Even when they requested an air strike to simply bury them in their tunnels , it was denied, giving Binladen enough time to escape.
Just watching this video made me lol at the media the way they put the story to blind all of America and to hate more and more innocent Muslims. Yes I said innocent Muslims. Because some people don't mean you harm no matter what.

And to be quiet honest, my family is, most of them, muslim. Which makes me one too. But you can't call me one, since I was never that religious.






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Reply #4 on: 16-08-2010
You go Dug^



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Reply #5 on: 16-08-2010

Yup. Told'ja he's a gurd-damned Muslim. I bet he's in on the 9-11 too! He gave the gurd-damned Muslims all the stuff to do it with I tells ya!
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I don't see the problem. I have a few friends who are Muslims, they're not Muslims because they want to be out of personal choice, they are indoctrinated into the religion. They're not really strong members of their faith, they don't try and force Islam upon others and such.

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Reply #6 on: 16-08-2010
Knowing you Exile, I bet you don't approve.

He lied about his religion to gain the trust of others and favors islam over christianity and America for the most part is a christian and now potentially athiest nation. Obama got in by lies and bullshit- "CHANGEEEEEE!".

By the way, obama does not write his speeches people write it for him he just reads it off the telepromter - he's been dubbed the telepromtor president for that. So his "valid" points are just some script by a script writer.


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Reply #7 on: 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.



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Reply #8 on: 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Exactly.

Also Exile I think in a country like that he had to do it. At least he admitted it.
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Reply #9 on: 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Obviously but obama is infact a muslin; he was born to a muslim father and his mother married another muslim who put obama into muslim schools. It was only until he decided to go into politics that he "went christian" obviously for the benifit of playing the "good christian politician".


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Reply #10 on: 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Obviously but obama is infact a muslin; he was born to a muslim father and his mother married another muslim who put obama into muslim schools. It was only until he decided to go into politics that he "went christian" obviously for the benifit of playing the "good christian politician".

That's politicians for ya. They always have to lie about something.



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Reply #11 on: 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Obviously but obama is infact a muslin; he was born to a muslim father and his mother married another muslim who put obama into muslim schools. It was only until he decided to go into politics that he "went christian" obviously for the benifit of playing the "good christian politician".


Its not his fault that americans are arses and put such a heavy load on Muslims, claiming them all to be extremists.
Id do the same if i was in his position.



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Reply #12 on: 17-08-2010


He lied about his religion to gain the trust of others and favors islam over christianity and America for the most part is a christian and now potentially athiest nation.

It was a necessary evil, since alot of Americans have such an extremist view over Muslims.



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Reply #13 on: 17-08-2010
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Reply #14 on: 17-08-2010
Obama is a sick bastard, He can go straight to hell for what he has done to this country.

Wrong.

Obama, he has some pretty valid points. Americans blame all Muslims just because some psychos who are not good in the head decided to blow up their twin towers and kill them selves. There is also talk about Bush being involved in that and being guilty. Not to mention incindeary(don't have a clue how to spell it) grenades that were heard by the janitor. Look it up on youtube there was an investigation, If America decides to be a Muslim hating and
killing nation then by all means they are as bad as the terrorists are. There will always be terrorists, no matter what religion. Those who are like I said not good in the head. Not to mention how media twists and turns the story and tries to make Obama guilty as much as possible. Everyone has a right to choose any religion they like and believe in whatever they want as it's in human nature to believe into something.

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Also Binladen, I don't know if you lot watch National Geographic but one of the soldiers who was assigned to a team to capture him was ordered from the top to stand down and not move into the complex in which Binladen was. Even when they requested an air strike to simply bury them in their tunnels , it was denied, giving Binladen enough time to escape.
Just watching this video made me lol at the media the way they put the story to blind all of America and to hate more and more innocent Muslims. Yes I said innocent Muslims. Because some people don't mean you harm no matter what.

And to be quiet honest, my family is, most of them, muslim. Which makes me one too. But you can't call me one, since I was never that religious.





I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\



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Reply #15 on: 17-08-2010
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I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\


Um, not true, what are you a xenophobic, 12 year old who's isolated from the mainstream in a security blanket, perhaps somewhere in the deep south? I'm going to rebuke your claim in one simple step. I have Muslim friends, they do not want to kill anyone. Once again, distinction between two different sects: Moderate (regular, overwhelming majority) VS. Minority, terrorist, extremists.





Oh wow, fallacies abound in that video, *coughs* QUOTE MINING*. *puts on Southern accent* I KNEW OBAMA WAS GOD DAMNED MAWSLIM! LIBERAL, SOCIALIST, MAOIST, MAWSLIM! Seriously? Might as well through some NWO, and Alex Jones in this thread to top off the stupidity. You know what? Even if he was a Muslim so what? It's better than a raving, fundamentalist, pentecostal who thinks the world is 6000 years old. Also what is wrong with Obama praising MODERATE Muslims, yes I used that word. I don't care if you say that the WHOLE of Islam says you have to be an extremist, the fact is there ARE moderates, and these are good people just as most atheists, Chrisians, Hindus, etc. are, so what, you'd rather have them believe what you say their religion truly says, and have there be 1.5 million Jihaadists in the world?! Okay, have it your way. Good for Obama saying that America isn't a Christian nation, it isn't, it's a nation of many faiths, beliefs and lack thereof. And to be honest I think it's a lot, lot more likely that Obama is a closet atheist than a Muslim. I'd say he's just a liberal Christian, I'm not one to delve into conspiracy BS, or start spewing Islamophobia. :V
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Reply #16 on: 18-08-2010

I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\


Oh look, an american said that.

Notice how your troops do the same? I mean americans getting blown up by a small ammount of explosive compared to you idiots droping 2000Lbs JDAMS on civilian populated areas, no wonder they hate you.

I have a friend in the British Army, and he witnessed a group of US Marines that thought it would be funny to fire a bunch of M203's through a school window full of children in afghanistan, kids died, a teacher lost her arm, and you say muslims are bad, perhaps you should also look into the dozens of other horrific things American soldiers have done before you critizise the entire muslim populace of being extremist.
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Reply #17 on: 18-08-2010

I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\


Oh look, an american said that.

Notice how your troops do the same? I mean americans getting blown up by a small ammount of explosive compared to you idiots droping 2000Lbs JDAMS on civilian populated areas, no wonder they hate you.

I have a friend in the British Army, and he witnessed a group of US Marines that thought it would be funny to fire a bunch of M203's through a school window full of children in afghanistan, kids died, a teacher lost her arm, and you say muslims are bad, perhaps you should also look into the dozens of other horrific things American soldiers have done before you critizise the entire muslim populace of being extremist.

Every single nation in Afghanistan has some retards in the army who try to amuse themself by killing/wounding/raping others.
Poland - fired mortar rounds onto a village, which was possibly clear of terrorists.

Wings, if you think ALL muslims are extremist fucks, try to see Bosnia & Herzegovina. Majority of them are muslims (right Dug ?).
Are they fighting christians or doing any bad to us ? No. They live peacefully with christian minority.

You too are extremist, thinking ALL of the Islam is bad. Ironic, isn't it ? Hating Islam, and muslims hating christians.

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Reply #18 on: 18-08-2010
Muslims aren't just in middle east. They are everywhere, worldwide. Just like Christians. Take Turkey for example , they are all mostly Muslim a well developed country and haven't done anything to the US so far.

Muslim =/= Extremist


Most of the Muslim population doesn't do shit and live like any other man, woman and child. Middle east is cursed, there was always war in it, one way or an other.

Also what do you expect of a nation to do when they get invaded?
There are a lot of cover ups behind the whole war. As we know the usual US crap, "National Security".


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Poland - fired mortar rounds onto a village, which was possibly clear of terrorists.

Wings, if you think ALL muslims are extremist fucks, try to see Bosnia & Herzegovina. Majority of them are muslims (right Dug ?).
Are they fighting christians or doing any bad to us ? No. They live peacefully with christian minority.

You too are extremist, thinking ALL of the Islam is bad. Ironic, isn't it ? Hating Islam, and muslims hating christians.


Most of us are Muslim. But we have everything over here, Jews, Christians, everything. And people get along so well. You have Mosques, Cathedrals, Churches , Sinagoge(dunno how to spell) seperated by a few meters, and people never fight/complain/argue, it's all good, everyone gets along and passes trough there every single day, letting everyone do their thing. We even have atheists and no one is even touching them.

Most Americans are just misinformed by their media and this whole war is full of cover ups and crap like that. Terrorists would be Terrorists, they appear sooner or later.
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Reply #19 on: 18-08-2010
Turkey is mostly muslim because they mass slaughted christians there.

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This debate is not about the people, it's about the intolerant backwards- hateful religion of "peace" that we call islam. The quran is the will of a war-mongering pedofile who used it to take over the middle east and beyond. Muhummad was no hero and he played on the minds of innocent people and still does to this day.

The reason some people who know muslim kids and think they are all "right" is because they actually see that islam's true message is wrong.

Also to refer to what i said before they call it the "religion of peace" for two reasons; one being that the orgininal first messages\verses that were "wrote" through mohammad by god (lol?) were peaceful before mohammad took it a step further to increase his war propoganda (Who's going to go against the word of god right?) and 2nd in the quran it states when all other nations\people are either dead\enslaved\converted\islamic there will be peace.

and potentially one of the most influental man in the world atm is muslim and is siding with islam on many fields- including that super mosque which is being build near where 9/11 happened. That's right one of the biggest mosques in america is being built right where 9/11 happened, a wise man once said, be intolerant to the tolerantless people.

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Reply #20 on: 18-08-2010
To be honest, this isnt something that should be discussed here.
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Reply #21 on: 18-08-2010
Anyways, Obama is not a Muslim and anyone who thinks he is must be a diehard Republican or racist. Then again, those go hand in hand.

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Reply #22 on: 18-08-2010
Anyways, Obama is not a Muslim and anyone who thinks he is must be a diehard Republican or racist. Then again, those go hand in hand.

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All you are spewing is typical politically correct bullshit, just shit that sounds pretty and open-minded. I will agree with your Republican portrayal, minus the racist part. I personally hate islamiphobist, mostly because they are just being phobic of them for no good reason and I can't find many except people like Pat Condell who actually have something to bitch about.

Here is where I stand on the issue. It's not impossible that Obama may be from Muslim origin, despite what he might say now since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama might have joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he was a Muslim.  I mean, Tiger Woods is a Buddhist! Whodathunkit?

Here are some facts. There is an Islamic justice system laid out in the Qaran called Sharia Law, which does strip women of many of what should be their natural rights and allows people to be stoned for the smallest of crimes, some of which may not even crimes in America such as adultery. Sharia Law is already institutionalized in the UK and serves as a double standard in laws there. Sharia Law has been proposed by Islamic politicians in places such as Germany, Sweden, among many other countries. The second fact is Taqiyya, which allows Muslims to purposely deceive non-Muslims if helps Islam.

You decide for yourself. In my opinion, I would reject a Muslim that is following the Qaran text accurately. On the other hand, there are Muslims (particularly US citizens) who cherry pick and follow parts of the Qaran that they only like, in which case there is no need to an Islamic religion, they might as well be following their own hearts like they already are rather than deceive themselves.
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Reply #23 on: 18-08-2010
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I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\


Um, not true, what are you a xenophobic, 12 year old who's isolated from the mainstream in a security blanket, perhaps somewhere in the deep south? I'm going to rebuke your claim in one simple step. I have Muslim friends, they do not want to kill anyone. Once again, distinction between two different sects: Moderate (regular, overwhelming majority) VS. Minority, terrorist, extremists.





Oh wow, fallacies abound in that video, *coughs* QUOTE MINING*. *puts on Southern accent* I KNEW OBAMA WAS GOD DAMNED MAWSLIM! LIBERAL, SOCIALIST, MAOIST, MAWSLIM! Seriously? Might as well through some NWO, and Alex Jones in this thread to top off the stupidity. You know what? Even if he was a Muslim so what? It's better than a raving, fundamentalist, pentecostal who thinks the world is 6000 years old. Also what is wrong with Obama praising MODERATE Muslims, yes I used that word. I don't care if you say that the WHOLE of Islam says you have to be an extremist, the fact is there ARE moderates, and these are good people just as most atheists, Chrisians, Hindus, etc. are, so what, you'd rather have them believe what you say there religion truly says, and have there be 1.5 million Jihaadists in the world?! Okay, have it your way. Good for Obama saying that America isn't a Christian nation, it isn't, it's a nation of many faiths, beliefs and lack thereof. And to be honest I think it's a lot, lot more likely that Obama is a closet atheist than a Muslim. I'd say he's just a liberal Christian, I'm not one to delve into conspiracy BS, or start spewing Islamophobia. :V

No, I'm not a Redneck nor' do I live in the South. I live in the deep North, Don't assume things that you don't know. Like I said, Muslims read the Quran, It says to destroy the Infidels. They think that America is the Infidels or in other words, they want to destroy the USA. Well, They can suck my cock. How dare those smelly towelhead's build a Mosque at Ground Zero. Also, There is no need to say that I am a redneck, Or that I have never been out onto the Mainstream. You can bet your ass that I have traveled to more places around the world than you have buddy. Quit saying that Muslims are good people, I suppose 9/11 was a kind gesture? If Obama is a actually a Muslim, Then I think he needs to be kicked out of office. I believe that he is going to try and force Muslim ideas on people of the USA. That is very wrong, since the USA was founded by Christians ans their Christian ideas.


@Steel-You have no idea if this story was true, Where is the proof? What if you buddy was lying. I know what your going to say, "Well my buddy is a good guy, HEHEHE." Sorry, No proof, You don't even live in the USA, Don't stick your British nose in our Affairs please.
Even if that account was true, Payback is a BITCH. Don't blow up our buildings, We won't blow up your schools. Even the Children's minds are poisoned, They use them as meat shields, or to make bombs. They are just as bad as their Jihad mothers and fathers.
Also, you said "Notice how your troops do the same? I mean americans getting blown up by a small ammount of explosive compared to you idiots droping 2000Lbs JDAMS on civilian populated areas, no wonder they hate you." Well, this is a false statement. The Quran states to hate the infidels, and It was written thousands of years ago before the war. They have always hated us, your argument is invalid. Look up "The Christian Crusades" They hated us then too.

@lolkieck- Did Bosnia & Herzegovina blow up the twin towers? I didn't think so.
The reason that Bosnia & Herzegovina are not fighting us, is because they are too busy fighting other people. Yes, I am an Extremist, Too fucking bad for the muslims. They hated us billions of years ago, I am just returning the favor.

@Dug- I realize that not every muslims does these things, But EVERY  muslim reads the Quran. You know what it says, So they are either not following the Quran, or they are blowing someone else up.
"Also what do you expect of a nation to do when they get invaded?" They Hijacked an airplane and flew it into our building, We WERE over there to fight Al Queda, and then we realized that all Muslims want to kill us. Fuck it, kill them all.
The only reason that Muslims, and Christians get along so well in the US, is either that they are  blowing something up, Or they are going to blow something up.

@dutch- Yes, You are right, and Everyone else is wrong. -_-



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Reply #24 on: 18-08-2010
To be honest, this isnt something that should be discussed here.
I agree, I mean no hard feeling to anyone. I just want to get my point across.



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