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Title: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 16-02-2010
So you think your fine just because you take prescription? Think again. Weed has almost no bad side effects and is a lot better than smoking cigarettes. (Plus people smoke way more cigs a day than pot)
I'm with this movement. Fuck pills, stay natural.
The War on Drugs: What a Joke! (MUST-SEE VIDEO!!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cefoV_A878#normal)
American Drug War: The Last White Hope: Pre Release Cut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CyuBuT_7I4&feature=related#normal)
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Moss on 16-02-2010
Ive always been against the politicians and dickheads who hold back weed. It causes 0 deaths a year , yet they allow Cigarettes and Alcohol. Its complete bullshit! And as I've seen on some reports , if weed was legalized the police departments wouldn't be spending so much money on chasing weed users down. And then if the country wanted to make a profit , they could put a tax on weed growers and sellers.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Lucidius on 16-02-2010
Quote from: Moss on 16-02-2010And then if the country wanted to make a profit , they could put a tax on weed growers and sellers.

The reason it's illegal in the first place is because they can't tax it. They CAN tax alchohol and Tabacco products. Therefore what they make more money from is iegal.

DURP

As for my opinion (as if it matters0, I'de rather weed be legalized over cigs, I still hate both.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Dark Angel on 18-02-2010
Quote from: Moss on 16-02-2010
Ive always been against the politicians and dickheads who hold back weed. It causes 0 deaths a year , yet they allow Cigarettes and Alcohol. Its complete bullshit! And as I've seen on some reports , if weed was legalized the police departments wouldn't be spending so much money on chasing weed users down. And then if the country wanted to make a profit , they could put a tax on weed growers and sellers.


You gotta be kidding! You know how fastly weed kills people? First of all your brain cell die , your skin goes awful and disgusting and in the end you will have alcoholic tramp face with dumb look.


That's how weed works.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Zstan on 19-02-2010
Quote from: Dark Angel on 18-02-2010
Quote from: Moss on 16-02-2010
Ive always been against the politicians and dickheads who hold back weed. It causes 0 deaths a year , yet they allow Cigarettes and Alcohol. Its complete bullshit! And as I've seen on some reports , if weed was legalized the police departments wouldn't be spending so much money on chasing weed users down. And then if the country wanted to make a profit , they could put a tax on weed growers and sellers.


You gotta be kidding! You know how fastly weed kills people? First of all your brain cell die , your skin goes awful and disgusting and in the end you will have alcoholic tramp face with dumb look.


That's how weed works.
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Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Tunddruff on 19-02-2010
. . . . Dark. . . That isn't right, PRACTICALY everyone I know smokes weed, and everyone at my school smokes weed.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Assassinator on 19-02-2010
Canadians don't give a crap. Wait, is that the secret? All Canadians smoke weed and that's why they DON'T give a crap? :O
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 19-02-2010
Quote from: Dark Angel on 18-02-2010
Quote from: Moss on 16-02-2010
Ive always been against the politicians and dickheads who hold back weed. It causes 0 deaths a year , yet they allow Cigarettes and Alcohol. Its complete bullshit! And as I've seen on some reports , if weed was legalized the police departments wouldn't be spending so much money on chasing weed users down. And then if the country wanted to make a profit , they could put a tax on weed growers and sellers.


You gotta be kidding! You know how fastly weed kills people? First of all your brain cell die , your skin goes awful and disgusting and in the end you will have alcoholic tramp face with dumb look.


That's how weed works.
I have a friend that has smoked pot since age 12, but he got straight A's and B's in Honours/AP classes in high school.
Oh and, he smoked everyday.
Does anyone realize how much worse prescription medicine is? It's extremely bad for you, ADD medicine is basically meth.
Also, %80 of America smokes weed, and the jails are filled with illegal drug users, but for some reason they're in the same prison as killers and rapists.
Pills are just a way for the government to make money.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: deluxulous on 19-02-2010
Well, I see where it's coming from and everything.

I still think smoking is dangerous to your health either way, and I'll never smoke a leaf of pot in my life. I just think it's another thing to damage your body with, plus addiction makes you want to buy more.

Just saying, none for me thanks.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Bielecki on 19-02-2010
One of the lungs of a guy from my college has collapsed.
Smoked alot of weed, but that has nothing to do with the lung, its the tobacco thats mixed in with it.

People have to realise thats its not the health issue's thats keeping weed banned.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Rhyom Guther on 25-02-2010
When I first saw this I thought it was about gangs throwing bags of crack at eachother but on the serious note, weed somtimes does kill people.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Turkey on 02-03-2010
Decriminalize it! Drugs are good for you! Proven fact!
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Lucidius on 06-03-2010
This thread is 80% fail, 5% fact, and 15 % fail.
Quote from: PistolKid on 19-02-2010
Well, I see where it's coming from and everything.

I still think smoking is dangerous to your health either way, and I'll never smoke a leaf of pot in my life. I just think it's another thing to damage your body with, plus addiction makes you want to buy more.

Just saying, none for me thanks.

This.

Just because you choose not too, doen't mean you have to force others, and just because you don't, doesn't mean others should force you.

L2  mature kiddies.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Paintcheck on 11-03-2010
The problem with Weed is that it is a gateway drug. It itself isn't dangerous but since you buy it from dealers who want to sell the more expensive and profitable dangerous stuff to you, you can get in trouble fast with hard drugs and shit like that. Plus driving under the influence is still a problem with weed. Personally I think the government would gain more from legalizing it than they are gaining by fighting it.

I am also a firm believer of "It's your body, it's your problem." Other than driving under the influence, I don't see how people sitting at home poisoning their lungs is harming me in any way. If people want to do it, let them and tax it. Free money.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 18-03-2010
Quote from: Paintcheck on 11-03-2010
The problem with Weed is that it is a gateway drug. It itself isn't dangerous but since you buy it from dealers who want to sell the more expensive and profitable dangerous stuff to you, you can get in trouble fast with hard drugs and shit like that. Plus driving under the influence is still a problem with weed. Personally I think the government would gain more from legalizing it than they are gaining by fighting it.

I am also a firm believer of "It's your body, it's your problem." Other than driving under the influence, I don't see how people sitting at home poisoning their lungs is harming me in any way. If people want to do it, let them and tax it. Free money.
Alright I didn't want to say this because I was afraid of what people would think of me. But anyways, that 'friend' that smoked since age 12, was me.
The government lies so much, I think it's funny. Yes, coke is a bad drug, but it's not as bad as it sounds. I haven't tried it, I don't touch the hard drugs, but I know many people that have done it multiple times that are fine. I've seen alcohol ruin more lives than Marijuana. Crack/Coke barely ruins more lives than booze does.

Also, most statistics are flawed because if you try Marijuana, the chances are, you will try another drug. It's not weed that makes you want to do more drugs, it's just hard to explain.. If you try weed your just more likely to do other drugs. It's just like if you steal stuff out of a car (car-hopping) your likely to do other crimes aswell.
Just think about it. In MY opinion, Marijuana is not a gateway drug.
Oh, and "The truth about drugs" is a lie.
Direct quote form it: "Yeah I started off drinking at parties. Next thing you know it was a 30 case a day."
A FUCKING 30 CASE? YOU'D HAVE TO BE INSANE.
They also mentioned that they spent $1,000 on marijuana a week. Either their dealer sucks or they're telling a lie.
I spend like $25 a week on it. That's the same amount that people use for cigarettes.
I'm tired of the government's lies. They should just tax weed, it will save a lot of prison space.


I've never had to worry about my dealer lacing my weed, he also only smokes marijuana.
So I wouldn't know about that part though. I swear I've had Coke laced weed from a nig though, gave me a bad trip, my heart felt like it was jumping out of my chest.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Paintcheck on 18-03-2010
Like I said before I agree weed should be legalized but at the same time just because you've never had "The gateway drug affect" happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all so that is a very real concern. You cannot just dismiss it because it has never happened to you.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 18-03-2010
Quote from: Paintcheck on 18-03-2010
Like I said before I agree weed should be legalized but at the same time just because you've never had "The gateway drug affect" happen to you doesn't mean it doesn't happen at all so that is a very real concern. You cannot just dismiss it because it has never happened to you.
Your right but if it's legal it would be harder to get illegal connections.
So it is an issue but wouldn't be as bad hopefully. I have seen a few people do other drugs but I'm not sure if it was because of them smoking weed.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Welek on 18-03-2010
4:20 Everyday

I've smoked weed for two years, all it does it makes you do is talk and be more social your always happy and you get the munchies.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Paintcheck on 18-03-2010
For sure it is not entirely do to smoking weed that people try harder drugs but it certainly helps. That's another point in favor of legalizing it.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Assassinator on 18-03-2010
Then why is Welek grumpy when he's online? Do you go online when you're NOT smoking weed?
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Sickness on 18-03-2010
Weed doesnt just make you happy.. It can also put you in a bitchy mood :p
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Anatoly on 19-03-2010
I like this idea.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 19-03-2010
It's going to happen eventually...
Most Americans use it regardless of law.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Locke on 20-03-2010
I'm never going to do weed as long as I live.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 23-03-2010
Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 20-03-2010
I'm never going to do weed as long as I live.
And I won't try to convince you otherwise. Some people love it some people dont care some people hate it.
I wanted to do it at a young age, I was around it all the time because I grew up in a bad neighborhood. Now it's all around me but I'm in a good neighborhood (well its turning bad) and it seems like most of the people I know smoke weed.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 27-04-2010
Quote from: Wellington on 26-04-2010
Wow chaos, what are you talking about alcohol ruins more lives than cocaine. I HIGHLY doubt that. Yes I realize alcohol and tobacco IS definitely bad for you. And from a medicinal standpoint marijuana is not as bad, in health effects, as cigarettes are. However, if marijuana was legalized imagine the social issues and the fact that it IS a gateway drug. People's lives are ruined because of it, due to the fact they do worse and worse drugs. How good do you think someones judgment is when they are high? To legalize that? I don't think so.
Alcohol does ruin more lives but I think it's only because more people use it. Also I have way better judgment on weed than on alcohol. You can still drive on weed.
Oh and I don't do other drugs.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Cutch on 27-04-2010
My friends brother does weed, and he gets straight A's. Fact of the matter is is that everyone's situation and train of thought is different. To put it in cliche, we are all snowflakes.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Paintcheck on 27-04-2010
I have a friend who smokes a shit ton and also gets straight As. I dabble in it a bit (like once or twice a month with said friend) and I have a GPA in the mid 4s. Weed doesn't make people stupid or smart. Typically the dumber ones are the ones who use it regularly but that isn't a function of the drug itself.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Chaos on 29-04-2010
Most of the people that get in trouble with the law and fail school do it before they even try Marijuana, just because they continue to do it after the use of Marijuana doesn't mean that's why they do it.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Bagelz on 29-04-2010
The ignorance within this thread is very bliss :) Not to mention the general lack of information that discusses the topic of drugs, and the general drug war taking place within Mexico's boarders.
Title: Re: American Drug War
Post by: Recreas on 23-07-2010
Don't use drug kids, it's bad ;P. Some Europians made it whilst trying to make medicine. So drugs is gewd if you use it right!