I was thinking this morning and I thought of an idea. Tropico or Island Roleplay. It's basically the same thing I'm just stating it's on an island. If you have played Tropico I think you would get the idea of the game.
You basically start on a island you pick as "El Presidente" aka President. You have complete control of the island. It is up to you how you will work. Capitalist or Communist? Religous Zealot or an Intellectual? Militarist or Loyalist, perhaps Nationalist? Or maybe you would like to please everyone on the island?
At any rate here is my idea.
Tropico Roleplay
Tropico roleplay would be mainly consisted of passive. However it would have it's fair share of action dependant on the situation on the island. You begin either as a Tropican or an immigrant who has come to seek fortune on the tropican island. The island we would be starting on would have a name of our choosing and a president aka "El Presidente" of our choosing. Applications would be put up for that position. El Presidente has full power over the island. It's up to him how he will expand the island, make it prosper , or take everything for him self. However citizens of tropico aren't that helpless in this matter. They can protest and after a while they can decide to become rebels and remove the president from control over the island.
Here, there would be no major factions / minor factions, at start that is. Like stated before, a president must be picked, who will recieve a palace and a few soldiers to protect it. As he develops the island, so must the mappers build. I know this is demanding and somewhat rediciolus. However to build certain buildings , El Presidente needs cash, and by the time he collects it , the mappers could add that building. El Presidente begins with 10.000 $. Certain buildings can't be constructed, certain buildings make a yearly revenue that must be payed, some requier electricty, some are dependant on other buildings. Everyone living in a house of any sort beside a shack, must pay taxes which are set by El Presidente. How to collect taxes? I haven't thought about this but I'm sure something can be done inside the script.
The island starts out with:
- El Presidentes Palace
- Construction Workers Office
- Few houses / Tenantments / Apartments / Shacks/ Country houses
- Max of two farms of corn / banana / papaya or ranches of cattle / sheep / lama
- A dock, to sell resources and recieve immigrants or others to emmigrate It's all about politics, happyness of people on the island and their needs. El Presidentes job is to manage to win all the elections and keep people happy or fill his coffers and run away.
People can form groups/factions like:
- Capitalists
- Communists
- Nationalists
- Loyalists
- Enviromentalists
- Intellectuals
- Religious
- MilitaristsEach group can demand what they want to see on the island. They act independantly and have their faction leaders, supporters, members , etc. Some groups have opposite ways of thinking, there for their interests can collide. Presidente can dediced how to remove these collisions , by force or by pleasing both of the groups or doing nothing at all.
A major faction can be made if a certain group manages to outnumber other groups. Which would make that group the prominent faction.
You would think a major faction would be the military? No. Unless Presidente builds and army base right away or too many outposts, it won't happen. However, everything has an application. From farmers to profesors.
There are no set paychecks. El Presidente decides who gets payed and how much, and he can change it whenever he wants to, he can fire who he wants to fire, improve a building , basically whatever he damn pleases. He can issue edicts, such as anti-litter ordinance, contraption ban, free housing, national day, etc. And the island doesn't automatically start with cars. Only construction workers recieve a truck.
I know this project would demand a lot of dedication, sweat and constant updating of map. However if done right, it can thrive and be unique in many ways. I'm very aware right now it's impossible to do, due to current projects under construction. However sometime in future it could be attempted and experimented on. NOTE: A thing I forgot to add is everyone who applys for position of El Presidente must be voted for. That means the playerbase picks it's president. Quiet frankly, it's all about the people and presidente, they do what they want to do, inside the limits of normal. There will be no 1337 ninjas who haven't went trough spec ops training which presidente needs to allow. USSR and US would be event factions. The timeline is during the cold war. Up to presidente if he is going to keep neutral policies and please both factions or side with one and ally with it.
Thoughts? Suggestions?
It sounds like it could be rather reasonable. I agree with your own words though, it would be a very demanding project to undertake, though I believe the rewards outweigh the potential risks involved.
Good idea but as Irondeity already said, it is very demanding. And it stays that way because everything keeps changing. It would be a project where you need a whole lot of people for like mappers because the map keeps changing after a few days.
That's true. But, for 10.000 $ , you can't really buy that much to overload the mappers. And it takes time to build. Not to mention you have to start off the economy somehow with 10.000 $.
Mapping won't be hard to manage at all.
The problem is that the players would have to download a new map every god damn day.
Also, it won't work, needs too many dedicated RPers, which HGN doesn't currently have.
Quote from: Jake on 14-01-2011
Mapping won't be hard to manage at all.
The problem is that the players would have to download a new map every god damn day.
Also, it won't work, needs too many dedicated RPers, which HGN doesn't currently have.
True, but I'm just throwing ideas out there.
Good idea dug, Get a server, script and ill play. We dont need another protect, We got fucking FORP, CRP and their not getting any sooner to being done.
Though we had all our hopes up for FORP that weekend and got the long dead Crussaria instead. Wat?
Can you all stop bitching about in my thread and just get the fuck out if you ain't got something constructive to say? I'm throwing ideas out there. So stop being a dick Turkey. If I'm presenting an idea, it doesn't mean "LOL I WANTZ IT NOW LOLOLOLOLOL". It means it's there for people to look at , maybe work on it in distant future. As far as I'm concerned it doesn't have to be worked on at all, because it's JUST AN IDEA.
This is gonna be on gmod correct?
HGN is unable to take any roleplay considerations at this time.
Quote from: Last.Exile on 14-01-2011
HGN is unable to take any roleplay considerations at this time.
I'm well aware of that. Like I said before. It's here for people to take a look at it, grade it and just mabye it might get worked on in distant future or perhaps never. Not right now that's for sure, that would be rediciolus.
Gonna make a Dark-RPish question, how rebels would get guns ?
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-01-2011
Gonna make a Dark-RPish question, how rebels would get guns ?
Dear god, The same way the military gets them.
But they would steal them
lol'd at question
GUN PLS
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-01-2011
Gonna make a Dark-RPish question, how rebels would get guns ?
Rebels can come from all walks of life. They all have good friends scattered all over tropico. They can pull strings.
But however you can't just go "OLOLOLLOL REBEL". Because that means living in a jungle and giving up on everything you had in the city. Other than that rebels don't need guns, they can wreck havoc at certain destinations.
Quote from: Turkey on 15-01-2011
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-01-2011
Gonna make a Dark-RPish question, how rebels would get guns ?
Dear god, The same way the military gets them.
But they would steal them
lol'd at question
GUN PLS
/votecop
Quote from: Dug on 15-01-2011
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-01-2011
Gonna make a Dark-RPish question, how rebels would get guns ?
Rebels can come from all walks of life. They all have good friends scattered all over tropico. They can pull strings.
But however you can't just go "OLOLOLLOL REBEL". Because that means living in a jungle and giving up on everything you had in the city. Other than that rebels don't need guns, they can wreck havoc at certain destinations.
I'd wonder, if there'd be a Tropico Roleplay and rebels, would they get automatically an AK47 and pew pew ? Or we'd make many weapons accesible for EVERYONE ?
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I did too.
Guns don't get asspulled. The military would only have them. Unless El Presidente makes a gun shop or perhaps an authed char who imports guns illegally(whatever you spell it), or the man who handles the guns decides to give someone other than military a gun.
Also. Tropicans DO NOT get AK47s automatically if they join rebels.
Matter of fact, rebels will struggle to get anything. Because they left the town obviously and headed for the jungles. There's a lot of possible situations in this matter.
Quote from: Dug on 16-01-2011
Guns don't get asspulled. The military would only have them. Unless El Presidente makes a gun shop or perhaps an authed char who imports guns illegally(whatever you spell it), or the man who handles the guns decides to give someone other than military a gun.
Also. Tropicans DO NOT get AK47s automatically if they join rebels.
Matter of fact, rebels will struggle to get anything. Because they left the town obviously and headed for the jungles. There's a lot of possible situations in this matter.
You should have it so the government buys them from other countries, and the rebels steal them. :)
Quote from: Turkey on 16-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 16-01-2011
Guns don't get asspulled. The military would only have them. Unless El Presidente makes a gun shop or perhaps an authed char who imports guns illegally(whatever you spell it), or the man who handles the guns decides to give someone other than military a gun.
Also. Tropicans DO NOT get AK47s automatically if they join rebels.
Matter of fact, rebels will struggle to get anything. Because they left the town obviously and headed for the jungles. There's a lot of possible situations in this matter.
You should have it so the government buys them from other countries, and the rebels steal them. :)
That's an other possible situation unless the island has a weapon factory.
Quote from: Dug on 16-01-2011
Quote from: Turkey on 16-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 16-01-2011
Guns don't get asspulled. The military would only have them. Unless El Presidente makes a gun shop or perhaps an authed char who imports guns illegally(whatever you spell it), or the man who handles the guns decides to give someone other than military a gun.
Also. Tropicans DO NOT get AK47s automatically if they join rebels.
Matter of fact, rebels will struggle to get anything. Because they left the town obviously and headed for the jungles. There's a lot of possible situations in this matter.
You should have it so the government buys them from other countries, and the rebels steal them. :)
That's an other possible situation unless the island has a weapon factory.
Could get a basic mapper to make a large island, during that time they could allow whoever in charge to rule, construct buildings and such and then it would be applied onto the map. (as in if you build stuff on the map icly it will be up on the map when loaded etc)
for some reason, i think this could be easily done on minecraft. but of course there wouldnt be guns =p
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
Quote from: Paintcheck on 19-01-2011
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
More statues for El Presidente.
Quote from: PistolKid on 19-01-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 19-01-2011
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
More statues for El Presidente.
Juanito blown up !
Hey there Tropico, we are TNT and we are about to explo- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM !
Quote from: Paintcheck on 19-01-2011
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
Should be kept between Dark RP and "srs bsns", then it'd be cool.
But there's another issue. Timeline.
How would it work ? One real-time day - one month/year ?
+support for this idea.
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-01-2011
Quote from: PistolKid on 19-01-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 19-01-2011
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
More statues for El Presidente.
Juanito blown up !
Hey there Tropico, we are TNT and we are about to explo- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM !
Quote from: Paintcheck on 19-01-2011
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
Should be kept between Dark RP and "srs bsns", then it'd be cool.
But there's another issue. Timeline.
How would it work ? One real-time day - one month/year ?
Timeline isn't an issue at all. You just let people roleplay.
It's like a sandbox roleplay. People make out of it what they want as long as it makes sense.
As for that, one real day is one real day in tropico roleplay. Same like on stalker.
Quote from: Dug on 23-01-2011
Quote from: lolKieck on 20-01-2011
Quote from: PistolKid on 19-01-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 19-01-2011
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
More statues for El Presidente.
Juanito blown up !
Hey there Tropico, we are TNT and we are about to explo- BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM !
Quote from: Paintcheck on 19-01-2011
I think this would be a fun idea if it kept some of the humor present in the actual game. If you took it seriously it would basically turn into HL2 RP or similar which is boring and stupid for the people who weren't the dictator/secret police. But if it had a tongue-in-cheek vibe and wasn't "srs business" then I think it could be fun
Should be kept between Dark RP and "srs bsns", then it'd be cool.
But there's another issue. Timeline.
How would it work ? One real-time day - one month/year ?
Timeline isn't an issue at all. You just let people roleplay.
It's like a sandbox roleplay. People make out of it what they want as long as it makes sense.
As for that, one real day is one real day in tropico roleplay. Same like on stalker.
I meant, there were MANY events in Cold War like Cuban Crisis, USA take-over of Dominicana, and CIA take-over of some country I don't remember and which was in Latin America.
It's during the cold war.
Quote from: Dug on 24-01-2011
It's during the cold war.
And Cold War was from 1945-1989. No chance that we're gonna play this game for 44 years.
Derp I guess we would start during 1950.
If we do decide to spend time to develope it
how would it work?
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
Derp I guess we would start during 1950.
I'm thinking - one month = one year in game.
Quote from: lolKieck on 07-02-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
Derp I guess we would start during 1950.
I'm thinking - one month = one year in game.
No. It would work as stated on the first post.
Quote from: Dug on 07-02-2011
Quote from: lolKieck on 07-02-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
Derp I guess we would start during 1950.
I'm thinking - one month = one year in game.
No. It would work as stated on the first post.
On the first post there's nothing written about timeline, or either I'm blind or I understood it wrong.
I'm responding to Siths question.
The days would go just like on SRP.