After being in a Totally unlogical RP with Whunyk (Or however the fuck you spell it...), I was killed after deciding that the RP wasn't worth it anymore, and said "We should both ICly die, and move on". Killbreu decided to throw us both off a Crane, to give it more feel. After respawning, I went back to gather my Gear, this is where it all happened. I decided "Hey, I had 60 rounds on my Abaken, so I'll press ammo twice, which will give me 60 rounds." As I preformed this action, Killbreu decided it was Ammo Glitching, like every admin does, and banned me for 1600 minutes.
What gave him the right idea to go ahead and ban was pretty stupid. What he could of done, is say "Hey Pawx, I think your Ammo Glitching, is this true?" It angers me to know that whenever I try to get my ammo back, I'm blammed for Ammo Glitching, when I'm clearly gathering my Ammo back. If your going to ban people for trying to gather their ammo back, then remove the Button to get it back, simple as that.
I think the ban was REALLY unfair, even though the ban can't be reversed, I still see this ban as a terrible Action, talking instead of waving your ban hammer around is always a good idea.
What I'm getting at here, Admins should stop guessing on what is happening, and actually ask the Player, instead of blindingly banning away. This is probably the second time I was banned by Admins that were guessing, As Tom decided that I was Paycheck Farming, when I was clearly AFK for only 5 minutes, checking the Fourms and gathering some food.
Maybe if you were more respectful to people admins wouldn't assume the worst of you.
Quote from: Bielecki on 01-12-2010
Maybe if you were more respectful to people admins wouldn't assume the worst of you.
That doesn't give ANY Admin the right to ban away. Just because I'm hated here, doesn't mean you should blame me for things I never did, That's just wrong...
I'm going to be blunt with you. They have every right to ban you on the spot.
Why? Because they don't trust you, and why do you think they don't trust you?
Quote from: Bielecki on 01-12-2010
I'm going to be blunt with you. They have every right to ban you on the spot.
Why? Because they don't trust you, and why do you think they don't trust you?
So your saying, I should be banned, after I did nothing wrong and only collecting my Rightful ammo, Just because they don't 'Trust me?' Fuck Trust, I don't need to fucking Impress you guys to 'Trust me', I am who I am, don't like it? Too bad.
You know, it could be an accident?
I can understand why he banned you, and I can understand why you are angry.
He thought you were trying to do the ammo glitch. People have been trying it lately, makes the tolerance of that kind of action lower and lower.
You just happen to be in a bad position. Did you try to talk to Killbreu about it? Or another admin over SF?
Quote from: Khorn on 01-12-2010
You know, it could be an accident?
I can understand why he banned you, and I can understand why you are angry.
He thought you were trying to do the ammo glitch. People have been trying it lately, makes the tolerance of that kind of action lower and lower.
You just happen to be in a bad position. Did you try to talk to Killbreu about it? Or another admin over SF?
I don't have Killbreu on my SF, and never will, and there's nothing really to talk about, Since you can't Unban anyone...
Quote from: Pawx on 01-12-2010
I actually don't know, Inlighten me..
Because of many times in the past you have broken rules, disrespected players and generally been quite unpleasant to talk to when situations like these arise.
You need to have a good think about the way you handle things because I know quite a bit of people are getting fed up with you.
This is why some people might not give you a chance, you just don't deserve it.
Well, Pawx, you could always ask someone on your SF to try to talk to Killla, and then you can explain the situation.
If you can't be unbanned, then you have to just wait it out.
Quote from: Bielecki on 01-12-2010
Quote from: Pawx on 01-12-2010
I actually don't know, Inlighten me..
Because of many times in the past you have broken rules, disrespected players and generally been quite unpleasant to talk to when situations like these arise.
That sums up pretty much most of the HGNers here, What am I doing that's different? Is it that I act out more? I flame More? What? If you guys would fucking explain to me, What singles me out from everyone else, I'll be glad as hell to change that...
Admins can, in fact, unban. I know where the option is in the admin menu on the server. However I formatted my computer and I'm trying to get everything working again, so I won't be on really for a bit.
@OP You moron.
Unban can be done through INGAME and the database.
How do you think the bans are stored?
Edit:
I thought you got banned permanently, why don't you just wait 27 hours?
It's nothing.
Edit#2:
Why did you even go back to get your gear?
Isn't that what you call breaking NLR?
Edit#3:
Clearly, you've never been an admin before.
Quote from: Jake on 02-12-2010
@OP You moron.
Unban can be done through INGAME and the database.
How do you think the bans are stored?
Edit:
I thought you got banned permanently, why don't you just wait 27 hours?
It's nothing.
Edit#2:
Why did you even go back to get your gear?
Isn't that what you call breaking NLR?
Edit#3:
Clearly, you've never been an admin before.
Pretty much- wait, why can't I see the third edit !?- everyone here asks "loot back", and they get it, since lots of us love our items, and when we get killed, we only don't get ammo back.
Quote from: Pawx on 01-12-2010
That sums up pretty much most of the HGNers here, What am I doing that's different? Is it that I act out more? I flame More? What? If you guys would fucking explain to me, What singles me out from everyone else, I'll be glad as hell to change that...
You're not getting singled out.
The other people who act the same get the same treatment. Rather then arguing, how about you try to change the overall view people have of you.
The unban command in game is broken according to Silver so even for temp bans it seems only he can unban.
And what Bielecki said. I am tired of seeing "ZOMG THE ADMINS ARE OUT TO GET ME!11!!!!one!!11!" posts. There is a reason admins are suspicious of you, we did not all decide one day to pick a random player on the server and be dicks to him. Your constant "Everyone else is doing it so punish them" is annoying too. If that is true, get screenshots, alert an admin, do something about it. Making vague reports about "them" doing things is not helping admins do their job. Plus if you actually reported shit like this the admins might think more highly of you since we'd see you as trying to help the server.
Protip also: Taking cheap shots at the people who are in charge of your continued ability to play on the server with statements like "I was just going to do the ammo glitch to get my ammo back like every other admin on the server does" is not a good way to win favor with us, especially when you have no proof.
And admins are banhappy these days because we were lenient in the past and idiot players took advantage of that by money farming, item duping, etc. So sorry that mistakes were made but clearly the server population isn't mature enough to control themselves and that's why we have to be more willing to use the banstick.
Quote from: Jake on 02-12-2010
@OP You moron.
Unban can be done through INGAME and the database.
According to Exile, Unbans don't work, 'You Moron.' I know for sure he doesn't know how to Unban players, since he tried guessing that if the Server crashed, The ban would be deleted...
Quote from: Jake on 02-12-2010
I thought you got banned permanently, why don't you just wait 27 hours?
It's nothing.
I don't think you get the point of how the Ban was Unfair, as in, I shouldn't have to wait 26 Hours (Not 27) for doing nothing wrong...
Quote from: Jake on 02-12-2010
Why did you even go back to get your gear?
Isn't that what you call breaking NLR?
As what Kieck said, Items are usually ALWAYS returned to players, unless in a STK Fight, both parties insist on not having Gear Return, or one of them at least...
Quote from: Jake on 02-12-2010
Clearly, you've never been an admin before.
I've actually have been a Admin before, but the Commands and Systems actually worked, and I wasn't a Waving Banhammer sort of guy...