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Title: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: KillSlim on 10-08-2010
I see all of the traders have EVERYTHING in stock. If you play the Stalker games, you will find that different traders have different amounts of varying stock.
I suggest that the lower ranks of traders are forbidden to sell certain more expensive and rarer items. You don't all have a personal warehouse full of shit.

As an example, a few days ago I saw a trader sell 20 boxes of 9x19 mm ammo. 20 boxes, each one has 60 bullets! That's 1200 bullets in total, and usually traders in Stalker have 200 at most in stock. Believe it or not situations like this are very common in SRP.

I know it's bad to be on the receiving end of limitations and that it would be bad for business, but when things like the above happen frequently I think limitations need to be put in place.

Solution:
Varying trader flags: Experienced, Veteran, Master, Leader(?). Traders at the bottom of the chain have access to the least amount of supplies, and traders at the top have access to much more supplies.

Cons:
People may travel to other traders at the top of the chain for supplies, thus resulting in the smaller businesses failing. However, a rule forcing higher-end traders sell for higher prices compared to the lower-end traders will encourage Stalkers to stay local and support their less experienced trader who sells for cheaper prices.
To enforce this rule, we could raise the supply prices for more experienced traders, forcing them to up their prices (Not too much of a supply menu price increase however).

Solution:
Add a time limit to the frequency of buying from the supplies menu. Lower end traders' time runs out slower. When the time limit is in-place after a trader has bought so much of an item, this item cannot be bought again until the timer has run out; after the time limit you can buy X amount of Y depending on how experienced of a trader you are.

Feedback and criticism welcome.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Bucky on 10-08-2010
I recived my flags maybey a week ago and started playing on it today, giving out missions for the first time and all that, I plan to somtimes if I sell alot of that item or maybey jsut randomly I will not ahve it and tell the buyer that im fresh out. It makes for good RP and I agree with Killslim.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Aresty on 11-08-2010
The idea is good. However I don't think higher ranks should pay more for supplies just to let the less experienced Traders earn some. We ain't a faction, so each Trader haves his own prices.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Comradebritish on 11-08-2010
THe idea is sound, if your an inexperienced trader in the zone you have limited connections so you'd be able to get your hands on less goods, not quantity but the goods themselves.

Amatuers should be able to get makarovs and hutning rifles and corresponding ammo and some medical stuff, higher traders can get stalker suits and more high caliber firearms.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Dug on 11-08-2010
I suggested this a couple of times, never was put into action.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Comradebritish on 11-08-2010
Vell it should, for Rp reasons and such.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Bucky on 11-08-2010
I dissagree because if your only allowed to sell 5 or 6 items how the hell are you gonna make money? What if some guy comes in wanting a Skat or a SEVA? Possibly a SVD? If he was willing to pay for it all, you make lots of money. I think if your an amature or not, your still a trader, you have connections but they wont always have guns and suits flying out the ass.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Turkey on 11-08-2010
Quote from: NikkoBlob on 11-08-2010
I dissagree because if your only allowed to sell 5 or 6 items how the hell are you gonna make money? What if some guy comes in wanting a Skat or a SEVA? Possibly a SVD? If he was willing to pay for it all, you make lots of money. I think if your an amature or not, your still a trader, you have connections but they wont always have guns and suits flying out the ass.


This. I don't like the idea, In-fact, Traders job is to supply the SRP economy with weapons, Nothing more.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Aresty on 11-08-2010
Giving it a second tought, this isn't neccesary.. there are alot of un-cannon thing in SRP, and having traders with limited items will ruin the Economy, because there are many stalkers who ask FOR alot of ammo. Not to mention prices would just go higher and higher because they become less and less avaible. Rookies wouldn't have a chanche to get hands on ammo due to costing it too much.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: KillSlim on 11-08-2010
Quote from: Aresty on 11-08-2010
Giving it a second tought, this isn't neccesary.. there are alot of un-cannon thing in SRP, and having traders with limited items will ruin the Economy, because there are many stalkers who ask FOR alot of ammo. Not to mention prices would just go higher and higher because they become less and less avaible. Rookies wouldn't have a chanche to get hands on ammo due to costing it too much.

The prices needn't increase to the extent of ruining the economy.
I don't suggest a limitation to 200 bullets of ammunition as an example, because the traders in the Stalker games are there to have enough for the player, not for larger amounts of Stalkers.

There should be a modest limitation, nothing too heavy to iron out ridiculous trading.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Ravanger on 11-08-2010
Just say ohh I dont have that for sale or say I have to get it shiped in. Like I go on my monolith trader I go the other part of the base to retrive more supplies.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: KillSlim on 11-08-2010
Quote from: Ravanger on 11-08-2010
Just say ohh I dont have that for sale or say I have to get it shiped in. Like I go on my monolith trader I go the other part of the base to retrive more supplies.

Do you honestly believe that people will do this? It's easy to say 'Oh yeah I do it in game for Rp', however when they join the server it's a different story.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Pawx on 11-08-2010
Quote from: KillSlim on 11-08-2010
Quote from: Ravanger on 11-08-2010
Just say ohh I dont have that for sale or say I have to get it shiped in. Like I go on my monolith trader I go the other part of the base to retrive more supplies.

Do you honestly believe that people will do this? It's easy to say 'Oh yeah I do it in game for Rp', however when they join the server it's a different story.

They do, just the Experienced RPers, there's a few traders that have endless supplies, not really a big deal...
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Mikhail on 11-08-2010
why not, and hear me out on this, every trader, no matter their skill level has every item. But each item has a maximum amount you can have at a time and a corresponding cooldown time until you get more.

For example you can have a max of 50 boxes of whatever type of ammo, every 10 minutes you receive 25 more boxes of that ammo, not exceeding 50. Whereas you can have a maximum of 1 exoskeleton at a time and it takes you... an hour to get another one.

This would mean all traders are equal therefor not making it completely impossible for the new trader to have any business because they have none of the items in high demand therefor they lose customers to the old traders and then never get on their trader again because they don't get anyone to buy from them.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Aresty on 12-08-2010
I don't sell 50 Boxes of ammo, unless I sell them to MIllitary, and 25 boxes every 10 minute wouldn't change anything.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: Mikhail on 12-08-2010
the numbers can easily be changed, im talking about the concept of having a cap on how much you can store at once and theres a set time for getting more.
Title: Re: Limitless unrestricted supplies
Post by: ISPYUDIE on 13-08-2010
Been trying your suggestion out, I normally carry basic stuff, (5.45, 5.56, AK74U, PDA, Medkit, Bandage, 19x18) and ICly pick up any supplies people wanted the next day.