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Recently ive been notified of discontent about both Commisar and Crimzon being an admin by various players and i would like to see what the playerbase thinks and should be done about both of these people. This is a serious thread so no flaming or going off topic.

Please leave a comment here on this agender and vote in the poll above.

I like how things are (State in comment)

Well, I see no problems with them. Commisar, don't know who that is, and Crimzon, I guess hes an Okay admin.

Commisar should stay. He is a good admin, and has fixed/helped with every problem i have ever had.

Commisar is okay, but sometimes he tends to get a little angry. Crimzon, however, well.... I think he's a good admin, but sometimes it seems like he abuses his powers a little for that faction Black Rain. A few days ago, you've probably heard about the incident, where they some how got their hands on a RPG....and it was some how fired when they were inside of a bunker....

Quote from: Genesis on 28-05-2010
Commisar is okay, but sometimes he tends to get a little angry. Crimzon, however, well.... I think he's a good admin, but sometimes it seems like he abuses his powers a little for that faction Black Rain. A few days ago, you've probably heard about the incident, where they some how got their hands on a RPG....and it was some how fired when they were inside of a bunker....

This.

Commissar really should work on his rage. You say like "hi" and he instantly rages... If he gets rid of that he's good as admin, else I vote for demotion.

About Crimmy... Well ,haven't seen him minging arround as admin yet ,just some PG sometimes, but that's not about admin-stuff.

I have Zero problems with Nitro and he is a great admin, but rages to much and makes half the Community feel bad about there work for the Community.

Crimzon I have some problems with, he usually abuses his powers quite alot, sometimes with overusing the Ban System, or overpowering his group, BR.

Moral of the story, I pick both for reasons I like to keep to myself..

Personally, I like Crimzon, he is a fun guy and knows how to deal with things.

I'm not to keen on Nitro as he does get very snappy at times, and in my opinion doesn't really seem fit to be an admin.

I hope my views make some difference on this issue.

They are both doing good jobs, Commisar does what he needs to do to get shit done, he's an assertive admin and we only need one like him (For the love of god, I hope there isn't another one). Commisar has been around since the beginning of S.R.P. from what I have heard, in my opinion we need someone who knows what it is all about, and Commisar is said person. He deserves the position.

Crimzon is also a good administrator, a little screwy at times, but he keeps a simile on a lot of peoples faces (Like Commisar when we record him raging). Crimzon has never once abused his administrative position in S.R.P., not once have I seen him do so either. He deserves his position, he has earned it.

Nothing should really change. By the way, why the hell aren't the people voting to demote not commenting, either say something as to why or get the hell out.

Quote from: Genesis on 28-05-2010
Commisar is okay, but sometimes he tends to get a little angry. Crimzon, however, well.... I think he's a good admin, but sometimes it seems like he abuses his powers a little for that faction Black Rain. A few days ago, you've probably heard about the incident, where they some how got their hands on a RPG....and it was some how fired when they were inside of a bunker....

Get the correct information about both sides of the story before you even comment, please.

Quote from: Pawx on 28-05-2010
I have Zero problems with Nitro and he is a great admin, but rages to much and makes half the Community feel bad about there work for the Community.

Crimzon I have some problems with, he usually abuses his powers quite alot, sometimes with overusing the Ban System, or overpowering his group, BR.

Moral of the story, I pick both for reasons I like to keep to myself..

A) I have never onced abuse ADMIN powers to get any gear for Black Rain. Nor is actually possessing common or above common knowledge anything I should be punished for.

B) I do use the ban system - After each player recieves at least one warning and one kick pertaining to each unique reason. If the ban is ever going to be over ten minutes, the player will be informed prior to their ban.

Yep. I'm a dick.
Yep. I'm smarter than quite a lot of people.
Yep. I think more in terms of realism, as opposed to an unrealistic view some players hold.

And nope. I don't particularly enjoy being raged at for things I don't do, and by people who only possess part of the picture . . .

All that bollocks aside - Everyone has faults, not one person is perfect. And to my knowledge, no serious abuse has ever taken part under either my term of administration. If you feel there ever has been - Feel free to take it up with me myself, or a CSV. (<- Assuming Welshy doesn't take a break due to receiving some of the same treatment as I.)


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I'd also like to see the reasons behind people opting for demotion. It'd help sort out useless bias from useful opinions and observations.

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 28-05-2010
They are both doing good jobs, Commisar does what he needs to do to get shit done, he's an assertive admin and we only need one like him (For the love of god, I hope there isn't another one). Commisar has been around since the beginning of S.R.P. from what I have heard, in my opinion we need someone who knows what it is all about, and Commisar is said person. He deserves the position.

Crimzon is also good administrator, a little screwy at times, but he keeps a simile on a lot of peoples faces (Like Commisar when we record him raging). Crimzon has never once abused his administrative position in S.R.P., not once have I seen him do so either. He deserves his position, he has earned it.

Nothing should really change. By the way, why the hell aren't the people voting to demote not commenting, either say something as to why or get the hell out.

Well Ping Pong said it all..If you disagree give some reasoning or fall in a hole.

My only issue with Nitro is the fact he becomes inactive at times whereas Crimzon is on the server day in and day out. I really don't feel either of them deserve a demotion as they are both fit admins when they are on the server.

Yes, Nitro can be ragey but he is very good at using his admin powers to fix problems when he is on the server so please stop flaming him for no reason.

NO Crimzon does not power-game so stop picking on BR for having admins in it. I'm in BR and there's no way in hell Exile would ever give me admin so I'll say it as simply as I can, Shut the fuck up.

You should know how i feel about Nitro. I DID tell you not to re-add him.

I believe I relayed the same intentions as Tundruff

 

Quote from: Genesis on 28-05-2010
Commisar is okay, but sometimes he tends to get a little angry. Crimzon, however, well.... I think he's a good admin, but sometimes it seems like he abuses his powers a little for that faction Black Rain. A few days ago, you've probably heard about the incident, where they some how got their hands on a RPG....and it was some how fired when they were inside of a bunker....

Same with me. But i dont think both of them should get there ass kicked, not Cimmosar Nitro he is cool.

Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

Well as for feelings. I believe that Crimzon should get another chance change his ways. Nitro eh you know what nitro is

When you say demoted do you mean brought down to BA, TA or removed?

Quote from: Bielecki on 28-05-2010
When you say demoted do you mean brought down to BA, TA or removed?

If it says demoted I'd assume it means down one rank each.

I hope what Celtic said is true, I believe that these two can have a change of heart, but for now I don't want them to behave the way they are an act they way they have.

Commisar I dont have a problem with hes been quite nice to me and seems fit to stay at his current rank, on the other hand I feel Crimzon tends to...overreact, I dont know if thats the right word or not but I can note serveral occasions where he threatend to fill out PK appeals when someone for example, shot at them when only their buddy said that they shot at him, I dont know if that really makes sense but also its getting quite annoying when he goes Rambo and pulls out his dual Kites and blasts you all away within a matter of seconds and theres nothing you can do about it because hes an admin and you dont want to be punished, but thats just my opinion.

Quotedual Kites

He could have his own hands f****d up, even in a SKAT. The recoil is just too big to have a DEagle in one hand.

I suppose they are both ok, but the first impression I got from them, were that they need to calm a bit down.

The problem is though, when they do something some hates, the hater announces it for everyone to hear about. When one of them do good, no one takes notice.

Besides, all players, regardless of rank or character, abuse/powergame/metagame and other shit. It's just that when they do, people over exaggerate it.



So, give them another chance.

I saw them both raging abit but not a big Problem. Let them stay Admins

Commisar is a very good admin he has always helped people out from what i see plus he has kept people in line and made sure people don't ruin other people's RP.
On the other hand i can not say much about crimzon because i have not seen him that much but when i do he is fine.

so they should both stay

Quote from: Khorn on 29-05-2010
The problem is though, when they do something some hates, the hater announces it for everyone to hear about. When one of them do good, no one takes notice.

Besides, all players, regardless of rank or character, abuse/powergame/metagame and other shit. It's just that when they do, people over exaggerate it.

This.

Quote from: NikkoBlob on 28-05-2010
Commisar I dont have a problem with hes been quite nice to me and seems fit to stay at his current rank, on the other hand I feel Crimzon tends to...overreact, I dont know if thats the right word or not but I can note serveral occasions where he threatend to fill out PK appeals when someone for example, shot at them when only their buddy said that they shot at him, I dont know if that really makes sense but also its getting quite annoying when he goes Rambo and pulls out his dual Kites and blasts you all away within a matter of seconds and theres nothing you can do about it because hes an admin and you dont want to be punished, but thats just my opinion.

To be honest, admin status has nothing to do with my roleplay. So long as you actually have real reason to complain to me, or another admin, you won't be punished for stating an opinion.

As for the PK part, noooooooooot quite sure I remember anything about that.

And to be hounest the posts and the poll dont match, Those who have posted here say they only have a problem with my temper and not my ability to be an admin, i suspect that those who are voting for my demotion have not posted, This could be because they do not like me but do not have a single reason for it bar my personality, An admin position is due to the ability to make freinds with everyone, I was given my position because i am a good admin, I keep players in line settle arguments teach new players who would otherwise be trolled to fuck by the comunity as a whole, The posts claiming i lol blasted the monolith gate is pure bullshit, My char Trolek Mastif is a civil engineer efectivly, I used a gas axe, a canister of propane and butane not explisives, Using an ironoxide and alunminium as a catalyste is somthing anyone with welding experiance can make in a few moments, So kindly do not over state my actions. Now this poll frankly is a waste of time and simply an insult, Every post made with my name in it dose not contain a single justafiable reason for my demotion bar "I dont like him", The poll dose not require you to post so i suspect that those polling for my demotion cannot post a reason that holds any weight, I have not been inactive, i havent abused, i havent broken rules, I have aided faction combat by my method of /eving each sides actions during STM engagments, I have not used my position for my own means. The complaints against me or my chars were only raised after i regained an admin position, This means that thoses who are complaining are crying admin abuse over things that would otherwise get the cryer a look of comtempt.

This poll is simply not required, it is insulting that the complaints are being made over trivial things, and by those who either do not have the whole story, are fabricating details, or have been called out on their own transgretions and simply want revenge.

Now onto the topic of my raging, I only rage when you do somthing stupid that any creature with even a shread of self preservation would slap you for doing, Or saying somthing that deserves your ability to reproduce being recinded. Anyone that has required my help as an admin has recived it, I answer /ars as quickly as i can, i optimise bases and even pepole like BTO who i hate with every fiber of my being gets my help when they ask, And when i rage my admin powers do not enter the equation.

Basicaly the members of HGN that want my admin removed have a personal grudge against me, either due to my personality or losing a fight to one of my chars, or they simply like the prospect of toppling the bastard called Nitro.

But i am a good admin, You dont like me? Fine dont speak to me problem solved, Dont go after my position because you dont like me, It is pathetic and juvanile, Id have more respect for somone who spent three hours slagging off my mother than someone who trys to have my admin removed because they do not have the corouge to say somthing to my face.

Quote from: Commisar Nitro on 29-05-2010
Basicaly the members of HGN that want my admin removed have a personal grudge against me, either due to my personality or losing a fight to one of my chars, or they simply like the prospect of toppling the bastard called Nitro.

This actually does pretty much sum it up - Because not one person can supply a good reason for either of us to be punished for administrative abuse.

Alright well, here's what i've got to say, i've heard from a few people and seen once or twice Crimzon's god gaming characters who can't seem to be seen or found in any way shape or form, but they sure as hell can shoot you in the face and capture one of your men

As for Nitro, Yea he rage's hard and could calm down ALOT, over little thing's, but from him i also have heard multiple time about godgaming/powergaming and saying he has auth's for it, Well here's the thing, WHO authed it? I mean i see so many people running around saying oh i have auth for this and this, but seriously, Halo trains for nine years to make her a super monolith assasin badass who can't be killed no matter what? My question is who Authed this?

Do not flame me for my opinion's in life you will have to deal with people you don't like, people who WILL at somepoint prove you wrong because no one is always right, So bite your lip suck it up and don't rage behind your oh so protective internet.

Edit :Why did i post this even though it won't change anything? To point out point's that EVERYONE else appears to be over looking, Look at the majourity of he people who have RP'd fighting with these people, It seems they NEVER loose, i know nothing will change because it's likely i am only going to be flamed for this post and nothing will be done about Nitro or Crimzon.

This thread has nothing to do with Halo goose why did you bring her up? there was a thread discusing her, i sugest you read this thread from the start.

Because i did start to get my self a bit annoyed when typing that sorry for that.

Quote from: Goose on 29-05-2010
Do not flame me for my opinion's in life you will have to deal with people you don't like, people who WILL at somepoint prove you wrong because no one is always right, So bite your lip suck it up and don't rage behind your oh so protective internet.

The problem with this statement is that everyone here is behind the internet.  So I can safely get raged at without being punched in the face.

We are here to comment on their Admin skills, not the RP stuff.

Uhm, no, if they are not good people in general, you can take into the account any wrong things they do during roleplay. That's what  suggests that they SHOULDN'T have this benefit since being admin is FOR the players.

Quote from: Assassinator on 29-05-2010
Uhm, no, if they are not good people in general, you can take into the account any wrong things they do during roleplay. That's what  suggests that they SHOULDN'T have this benefit since being admin is FOR the players.

This is clear enough so that everyone should understand it and it is incredibly true. I do not belive that Crimzon or Nitro should be admins simply because they rage to hard and godgame almost everytime.

Quote from: Goose on 29-05-2010
Because i did start to get my self a bit annoyed when typing that sorry for that.

And I've already defended myself from the tides of bawwww resulting from people not completely winning and being satisfied with a victory.

I would not say "Every time" because Nitro is a mature person, who can get a bit angry at times, but the majority of the time he is a good admin. Maybe if we got rid of all the issues surrounding why people don't like him, he could just do his job. For example, his characters are a source of controversy sometimes, especially the "Ex-Monolith Assassin".

Crimmy is a good admin, as is Commisar besides his rage tantrums he occasionally has.

Quote from: Commisar Nitro on 29-05-2010
And to be hounest the posts and the poll dont match, Those who have posted here say they only have a problem with my temper and not my ability to be an admin, i suspect that those who are voting for my demotion have not posted, This could be because they do not like me but do not have a single reason for it bar my personality, An admin position is due to the ability to make freinds with everyone, I was given my position because i am a good admin, I keep players in line settle arguments teach new players who would otherwise be trolled to fuck by the comunity as a whole, The posts claiming i lol blasted the monolith gate is pure bullshit, My char Trolek Mastif is a civil engineer efectivly, I used a gas axe, a canister of propane and butane not explisives, Using an ironoxide and alunminium as a catalyste is somthing anyone with welding experiance can make in a few moments, So kindly do not over state my actions. Now this poll frankly is a waste of time and simply an insult, Every post made with my name in it dose not contain a single justafiable reason for my demotion bar "I dont like him", The poll dose not require you to post so i suspect that those polling for my demotion cannot post a reason that holds any weight, I have not been inactive, i havent abused, i havent broken rules, I have aided faction combat by my method of /eving each sides actions during STM engagments, I have not used my position for my own means. The complaints against me or my chars were only raised after i regained an admin position, This means that thoses who are complaining are crying admin abuse over things that would otherwise get the cryer a look of comtempt.

This poll is simply not required, it is insulting that the complaints are being made over trivial things, and by those who either do not have the whole story, are fabricating details, or have been called out on their own transgretions and simply want revenge.

Now onto the topic of my raging, I only rage when you do somthing stupid that any creature with even a shread of self preservation would slap you for doing, Or saying somthing that deserves your ability to reproduce being recinded. Anyone that has required my help as an admin has recived it, I answer /ars as quickly as i can, i optimise bases and even pepole like BTO who i hate with every fiber of my being gets my help when they ask, And when i rage my admin powers do not enter the equation.

Basicaly the members of HGN that want my admin removed have a personal grudge against me, either due to my personality or losing a fight to one of my chars, or they simply like the prospect of toppling the bastard called Nitro.

But i am a good admin, You dont like me? Fine dont speak to me problem solved, Dont go after my position because you dont like me, It is pathetic and juvanile, Id have more respect for somone who spent three hours slagging off my mother than someone who trys to have my admin removed because they do not have the corouge to say somthing to my face.

Adding to this,

Name one person Halo has PK'd, Name one ocation that my RP on Halo has ended the RP of anouther member's char.

And every admin has chars that pepole dont like, I barely use Halo for this reason, Now lets get to the point Asasinator dose not like me so his entire argument that my personality is all important and not my ability to admin is a highly flawed argument and in my opinion extremly suspect as Asasinator hasent seen me RP and neither speaks to me or has any first hand knowlage of the going on that have led to this, So Asasinator why are you posting in this topic?

Quote from: Assassinator on 29-05-2010
Uhm, no, if they are not good people in general, you can take into the account any wrong things they do during roleplay. That's what  suggests that they SHOULDN'T have this benefit since being admin is FOR the players.

Remind me why you're still here and commenting about what's best for the players? - Last I remember you were making a nice and healthy rant on Facepunch telling the members of the community there that they shouldn't go to HGN due to issues regarding the admin team, and roleplay - Which really wouldn't help our members against future discrimination, and issues regarding HGN's reputation spreading.

This is turning into nothing but the "Who Has The Bigger Dick" contest.
Their skills as admins are great, their roleplay is incredible, a lot of people may dislike them, but they seem to get the job done.

This topic shouldn't have even been brought up, I think this demotion shit should be decided by the Administrators of S.R.P. and S.R.P. ONLY. In my opinion, I believe a lot of this is just biased.

Imo Commissar thinks that whoever complains about him, hates him or doesn't "LIKE" him.

Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 29-05-2010
I would not say "Every time" because Nitro is a mature person, who can get a bit angry at times, but the majority of the time he is a good admin. Maybe if we got rid of all the issues surrounding why people don't like him, he could just do his job. For example, his characters are a source of controversy sometimes, especially the "Ex-Monolith Assassin".

Agreed, We should remove all the Bull shit characters and other things that cause problems to Crimzon and Nitro.

Quote from: Jake on 29-05-2010
Imo Commissar thinks that whoever complains about him, hates him or doesn't "LIKE" him.

I absolutely love the guy, take a sit down with him some time and just talk to the guy. I know to you guys it sounds a little stupid and strange, but if you just do it, you will be good friends with him reeeeaaaaaal soon.

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 29-05-2010

Quote from: Jake on 29-05-2010
Imo Commissar thinks that whoever complains about him, hates him or doesn't "LIKE" him.

I absolutely love the guy, take a sit down with him some time and just talk to the guy. I know to you guys it sounds a little stupid and strange, but if you just do it, you will be good friends with him reeeeaaaaaal soon.

Last time i tried that i got "Fuck off"
So no thanks.

Quote from: Pawx on 29-05-2010

Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 29-05-2010
I would not say "Every time" because Nitro is a mature person, who can get a bit angry at times, but the majority of the time he is a good admin. Maybe if we got rid of all the issues surrounding why people don't like him, he could just do his job. For example, his characters are a source of controversy sometimes, especially the "Ex-Monolith Assassin".

Agreed, We should remove all the Bull shit characters and other things that cause problems to Crimzon and Nitro.

There wouldnt be no one for them to play as if you did that.

Quote from: The Jackal on 29-05-2010

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 29-05-2010

Quote from: Jake on 29-05-2010
Imo Commissar thinks that whoever complains about him, hates him or doesn't "LIKE" him.

I absolutely love the guy, take a sit down with him some time and just talk to the guy. I know to you guys it sounds a little stupid and strange, but if you just do it, you will be good friends with him reeeeaaaaaal soon.

Last time i tried that i got "Fuck off"
So no thanks.

When Commisar says "Fuck off" he means- "Hi there, what's going on?"

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 29-05-2010
When Commisar says "Fuck off" he means- "Hi there, what's going on?"

This.

Quote from: Pawx on 29-05-2010
Agreed, We should remove all the Bull shit characters and other things that cause problems to Crimzon and Nitro.

Please, just please. Give me a really good account of when my characters have done something to unspeakably impossible that it causes enough to warrant this reaction.

And no, they haven't shot one Stalker, and done an instant 180 with duck to kill the other.
^ Should ring a bell.

Quote from: Hotstarr on 28-05-2010
Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

Did no one read this?

After speaking with Both Nitro and Crimzon i would like to remove my Vote from Both

I like to do things very differently from Nitro and Crimzon, however both ways work in different situations. I'm not going to patronise them by saying something like 'Oh they will learn someday' because they are both a lot more experienced then me. They do very good jobs as admins, its just that the majority of people can't see it because its hidden behind steam chat, admin chat or a heap of bad reputation. It seems people ignore the good stuff they do.

So I'm going to say 'I like how things are' because they are doing good jobs, you just got to put some trust into them.
And I highly agree with what Hotstarr said.

Listen, Let me put my op like this.. I want crimzon to have my babbies {LOL'D AT THAT} AND COMMISSAR IS A COOL GUY!

I will try to keep this as unbiased as possible, though it will be quite difficult. My personal opinion is that they both should be removed from the admin team. I don't hate them personally, I hate their actions. I never had a problem with Nitro until he tried to PK me for not saluting to him. (Dead serious.) And up until before Crimzon got admin, I loved him. But now you state your opinion and it's "you're flaming this", or "you're flaming that", and they both immediately whip out the banhammers. Nitro is built of rage, kind of like a 24/7 hulk. I don't know why he decides taking it out on ever living creature is worth his while, but that is what he does. I've only dealt with him in RP twice. Once was the DUTY incident, and the second time... Well, there's really no way to say 'asspulling stalker' nicely. Crimzon on the other hand let the power get to his head, and is on a massive ego trip. He can 'pwn'  5 monolithians in their own base, alone. And drag an injured teammate out of a place that is supposed to be a dead end. Which means, he flew while dragging a body of a full grown man into a vent shaft too high to actually be able to get back up into once coming down. And he also planted a 'lol' explosive on the Mono door, that actually exploded and killed two monolithians, AFTER Crimzon and the teammate had flew through the vent and left. Crimzon also was able to successfully attack and kill a freedomer while in freedom base whith a bunch of freedomers online, and magically have no one know it was him. And once you confront him with any of this in OOC or whatever, he claims you are flaming and pulls out the banhammer (following Nitro's footsteps). I don't RP events with these people anymore, because what results is normally powergame or something of the like, and I prefer not getting into that. If that means I have to let down my faction, it's something I've got to do then. These are just a few of the multiple examples I've witnessed, there are more, but I think what I've listed has justified my reason for having them both demoted out of HGN staff. At least not on SRP.

How can you claim i constantly powergame when you just stated youv only RP'd with me twice?

And as for the Duty incident i truly have no idea what you are talking about.

And ill tell you this now, When you openly critisize insult or bait an admin on the server in global ooc you are liable to be booted from the server, /ar exists for a reason, or use forum PM use the systems in place to report your concerns. Do not sit on the server disrupting RP with global ooc flames whitch is how they come across fyi.

And your stating you have witnessed these events when you state you avoid us means you are giving a highly jaded and 4th person perspective.

Quote from: kisftw on 29-05-2010
I will try to keep this as unbiased as possible, though it will be quite difficult. My personal opinion is that they both should be removed from the admin team. I don't hate them personally, I hate their actions. I never had a problem with Nitro until he tried to PK me for not saluting to him. (Dead serious.) And up until before Crimzon got admin, I loved him. But now you state your opinion and it's "you're flaming this", or "you're flaming that", and they both immediately whip out the banhammers. Nitro is built of rage, kind of like a 24/7 hulk. I don't know why he decides taking it out on ever living creature is worth his while, but that is what he does. I've only dealt with him in RP twice. Once was the DUTY incident, and the second time... Well, there's really no way to say 'asspulling stalker' nicely. Crimzon on the other hand let the power get to his head, and is on a massive ego trip. He can 'pwn'  5 monolithians in their own base, alone. And drag an injured teammate out of a place that is supposed to be a dead end. Which means, he flew while dragging a body of a full grown man into a vent shaft too high to actually be able to get back up into once coming down. And he also planted a 'lol' explosive on the Mono door, that actually exploded and killed two monolithians, AFTER Crimzon and the teammate had flew through the vent and left. Crimzon also was able to successfully attack and kill a freedomer while in freedom base whith a bunch of freedomers online, and magically have no one know it was him. And once you confront him with any of this in OOC or whatever, he claims you are flaming and pulls out the banhammer (following Nitro's footsteps). I don't RP events with these people anymore, because what results is normally powergame or something of the like, and I prefer not getting into that. If that means I have to let down my faction, it's something I've got to do then. These are just a few of the multiple examples I've witnessed, there are more, but I think what I've listed has justified my reason for having them both demoted out of HGN staff. At least not on SRP.

I will not kick people for stating opinions in ways that are not insulting to any member of the community. And my admin status does not influence any of my actions that are taken ICly, they never have, nor will they ever.

As for the Freedom incident, did you see me do it? - No?
Surprise, you'd prefer to metagame that I'd done it than step back and mind your own business.

Quote from: Commisar Nitro on 30-05-2010
How can you claim i constantly powergame when you just stated youv only RP'd with me twice?

And as for the Duty incident i truly have no idea what you are talking about.

And ill tell you this now, When you openly critisize insult or bait an admin on the server in global ooc you are liable to be booted from the server, /ar exists for a reason, or use forum PM use the systems in place to report your concerns. Do not sit on the server disrupting RP with global ooc flames whitch is how they come across fyi.

And your stating you have witnessed these events when you state you avoid us means you are giving a highly jaded and 4th person perspective.

Ask Welshy. He'll know what I'm talking about.

Quote from: Crimzon_Reaper on 30-05-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 29-05-2010
I will try to keep this as unbiased as possible, though it will be quite difficult. My personal opinion is that they both should be removed from the admin team. I don't hate them personally, I hate their actions. I never had a problem with Nitro until he tried to PK me for not saluting to him. (Dead serious.) And up until before Crimzon got admin, I loved him. But now you state your opinion and it's "you're flaming this", or "you're flaming that", and they both immediately whip out the banhammers. Nitro is built of rage, kind of like a 24/7 hulk. I don't know why he decides taking it out on ever living creature is worth his while, but that is what he does. I've only dealt with him in RP twice. Once was the DUTY incident, and the second time... Well, there's really no way to say 'asspulling stalker' nicely. Crimzon on the other hand let the power get to his head, and is on a massive ego trip. He can 'pwn'  5 monolithians in their own base, alone. And drag an injured teammate out of a place that is supposed to be a dead end. Which means, he flew while dragging a body of a full grown man into a vent shaft too high to actually be able to get back up into once coming down. And he also planted a 'lol' explosive on the Mono door, that actually exploded and killed two monolithians, AFTER Crimzon and the teammate had flew through the vent and left. Crimzon also was able to successfully attack and kill a freedomer while in freedom base whith a bunch of freedomers online, and magically have no one know it was him. And once you confront him with any of this in OOC or whatever, he claims you are flaming and pulls out the banhammer (following Nitro's footsteps). I don't RP events with these people anymore, because what results is normally powergame or something of the like, and I prefer not getting into that. If that means I have to let down my faction, it's something I've got to do then. These are just a few of the multiple examples I've witnessed, there are more, but I think what I've listed has justified my reason for having them both demoted out of HGN staff. At least not on SRP.

I will not kick people for stating opinions in ways that are not insulting to any member of the community. And my admin status does not influence any of my actions that are taken ICly, they never have, nor will they ever.

As for the Freedom incident, did you see me do it? - No?
Surprise, you'd prefer to metagame that I'd done it than step back and mind your own business.

Hypothetically speaking, let put the freedom incident aside. How about the powergaming monolithian raid?


But to be honest, I'd rather have Nitro as an admin then Crimzon.

Quote from: kisftw on 29-05-2010


But to be honest, I'd rather have Nitro as an admin then Crimzon.

Agreed

Quote from: Hotstarr on 28-05-2010
Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Hotstarr on 28-05-2010
Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

It really is a false democracy... It may turn into a flame war soon.

Who votes shutting down the polls and throwing this all behind us?

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 30-05-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Hotstarr on 28-05-2010
Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

It really is a false democracy... It may turn into a flame war soon.

Who votes shutting down the polls and throwing this all behind us?

Like what Kisftw just said, our votes only count if SilverKnight acts on them, and I suspect he'll act on the current poll before acting to delete it.

Quote from: Plunger on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 30-05-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Hotstarr on 28-05-2010
Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

It really is a false democracy... It may turn into a flame war soon.

Who votes shutting down the polls and throwing this all behind us?

Like what Kisftw just said, our votes only count if SilverKnight acts on them, and I suspect he'll act on the current poll before acting to delete it.

Silver already acted before the polling was anywhere near done.

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010
Hypothetically speaking, let put the freedom incident aside. How about the powergaming monolithian raid?

And what raid would that be?

Quote from: Crimzon_Reaper on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Plunger on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 30-05-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Hotstarr on 28-05-2010
Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

It really is a false democracy... It may turn into a flame war soon.

Who votes shutting down the polls and throwing this all behind us?

Like what Kisftw just said, our votes only count if SilverKnight acts on them, and I suspect he'll act on the current poll before acting to delete it.

Silver already acted before the polling was anywhere near done.

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010
Hypothetically speaking, let put the freedom incident aside. How about the powergaming monolithian raid?

And what raid would that be?

Read my original post.

Quote from: Plunger on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Ping-Pong on 30-05-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010

Quote from: Hotstarr on 28-05-2010
Is it really necessary to let something like the status of two admins be decided by a bunch of people, many of which would probably so incredibly quick to say "Demote them both, for god's sake!"? Silver, there were things that should've been decided by the playerbase that you've denied them the chance to, but for something like this? I have to say that you've just lost it.

This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

It really is a false democracy... It may turn into a flame war soon.

Who votes shutting down the polls and throwing this all behind us?

Like what Kisftw just said, our votes only count if SilverKnight acts on them, and I suspect he'll act on the current poll before acting to delete it.

It truly dosent matter what happens in this poll Silver altered the admin poers of both myself and Crimzon before he even made this thread, His likly excuse of "It was to prevent you damaging the server" Wont work, Not even SV admin abilitys grant Rcon acces whitch is required to alter the server in any way.

Silver made this poll as this was the only posible way he could justify demoting myself and Crimzon, Now the concerns over crimzon were his rize to SA in a short space of time, It was Silver who offered Crimzon admin and it was Silver who promoted him to SA, without talking to the admin team.

Now considering how i have the support of the admin team, Using a poll in whitch no one has provided any proof or laudable reason for myself or crim to be demoted is the only way he could do it, Allso i find his timing highly sucpiciouse as my main suporters are either LOA on break MIA or unaware of the situation, The poll was allso posted while i was away for the week thus leaving me no way to defend myself.

Now what none of you realise is i havent achually "Raged" like you all claim since before i regain my admin, I allso spent sevral weeks going between HGN TS and TNB vent calming the situation down and denouncing the roumers of planned dos attaks on both sides, I have done my job as an Admin and no one can provide proof to the countray, You dont like me? fine i dont care, I couldnt care if you all hated my guts iv been hated my whole life its nothing new to me, Im a fundementaly unlikable person, But im a good admin.

Now this entire situation has escalated out of all reasnoable proportions, The complaints against me are exagurated and being used by those who hold grudges against me to try and get me demoted.

Now you lot throw more flames and insults and jibes at eachother on a daily basis that i couldnt match in a decade, Thats the way of the internet.

Fact is not one of you has taken the time to stop and take a look i achually behave very difrently from what has been claimed in this thread. If i behaved like this thread claims i would never have been granted admin in the first place, Roumer and exageration have taken this to far.

And if i was what this thread claims i wouldnt of taken the time over the last 48 hours calmly and civly talking to those concered, And Silver Knight aka Last Exile has when online refused to talk to me and on the time he did respond he told me nothing, that action alone i find very suspect.

Iv said my peice for now.

Quote from: CommisarNitro
It truly dosent matter what happens in this poll Silver altered the admin poers of both myself and Crimzon before he even made this thread,...

Silver made this poll as this was the only posible way he could justify demoting myself and Crimzon...

Quote from: Assassinator
The leader at HGN does what he pleases, whether the rest of those in the community think its in their best interest or not. He is not willing to accept anything contradictory to what his goals and ideas are.

http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/server-discussion-and-ideas/what-server-would-you-like-hgn-to-put-up/ (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/server-discussion-and-ideas/what-server-would-you-like-hgn-to-put-up/)

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010
This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

I sense a re-curring theme.

Quote from: Lucidius on 30-05-2010

Quote from: CommisarNitro
It truly dosent matter what happens in this poll Silver altered the admin poers of both myself and Crimzon before he even made this thread,...

Silver made this poll as this was the only posible way he could justify demoting myself and Crimzon...

Quote from: Assassinator
The leader at HGN does what he pleases, whether the rest of those in the community think its in their best interest or not. He is not willing to accept anything contradictory to what his goals and ideas are.

http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/server-discussion-and-ideas/what-server-would-you-like-hgn-to-put-up/ (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/server-discussion-and-ideas/what-server-would-you-like-hgn-to-put-up/)

Quote from: kisftw on 30-05-2010
This is a false democracy. It seems you don't understand how things work. This thread is just for our opinions. It doesn't matter the outcome, nothing will change unless whoever is running this decides to fix it.

I sense a re-curring theme.

Please don't misinterpret my post. SK asks our opinions, but our opinions really mean nothing unless SK acts on it. I've got nothing against SK, he runs this, he takes his time to maintain this. Therefore he has full right to decide what to do with it.

Twas only quoted for emphasis.

Ok ,short version: Commissar kind of took my arguments with these big-metaton-ass texts.

I srsly couldent careless this is just stupid this entire thing.

Quote from: Radek on 31-05-2010
I srsly couldent careless this is just stupid this entire thing.

This. I won't go any further, I know Nitro can do his job. I've seen it.

Quote from: Astarathia on 30-05-2010
Ok ,short version: Commissar kind of took my arguments with these big-metaton-ass texts.

It hasn't changed my opinion because I'm not sure if it's true or not. You can't base it by how much he says. It was only a few points that rambled.
I haven't seen Nitro admining because I've taken a break from SRP, so I don't think Nitro should be demoted, but I don't support him either.
As for Crimzon the last time I was playing, he power-gamed and he's was a bad role model for new players. I'm unsure if he has improved.

Quote from: Dug on 31-05-2010

Quote from: Radek on 31-05-2010
I srsly couldent careless this is just stupid this entire thing.

This. I won't go any further, I know Nitro can do his job. I've seen it.

Yeah, and he can go under the map and give you the items he found there to sell them. He can do his job.

Quote from: lolKieck on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Dug on 31-05-2010

Quote from: Radek on 31-05-2010
I srsly couldent careless this is just stupid this entire thing.

This. I won't go any further, I know Nitro can do his job. I've seen it.

Yeah, and he can go under the map and give you the items he found there to sell them. He can do his job.

Care to elaborate that? Screenshots? Video? Proof? That he is ghosting and gathering items for me to give? Face it , you got nothing against the man, people are making up shit. Seriously, all of you need PROOF before you start accusing the man for anything.

Quote from: Dug on 01-06-2010

Quote from: lolKieck on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Dug on 31-05-2010

Quote from: Radek on 31-05-2010
I srsly couldent careless this is just stupid this entire thing.

This. I won't go any further, I know Nitro can do his job. I've seen it.

Yeah, and he can go under the map and give you the items he found there to sell them. He can do his job.

Care to elaborate that? Screenshots? Video? Proof? That he is ghosting and gathering items for me to give? Face it , you got nothing against the man, people are making up shit. Seriously, all of you need PROOF before you start accusing the man for anything.

I admit, I don't have any proof, though I saw him do that. Though it isn't enough.

Kieck when is the last time you went on teamspeak?
Nitro always talks to the members of duty on it. And always mentions to them that they have to hand the stuff they aren't suppose to have , either to me or him. You know Nitro lost his powers as a SV for some time now. I forgot what he has been put to. He can't NO CLIP anymore. And recently I got a shitload of stuff from him. Guess where it came from? The duty members.
It's a rule in duty. You can stop making up shit now.

I have allowed votes to be changed, if you have had a "change of heart" then please recast your vote, the voting ends in 4 days.

Quote from: Dug on 01-06-2010
Kieck when is the last time you went on teamspeak?
Nitro always talks to the members of duty on it. And always mentions to them that they have to hand the stuff they aren't suppose to have , either to me or him. You know Nitro lost his powers as a SV for some time now. I forgot what he has been put to. He can't NO CLIP anymore. And recently I got a shitload of stuff from him. Guess where it came from? The duty members.
It's a rule in duty. You can stop making up shit now.

I was on teamspeak like... never ?
I don't have a teamspeak installed and I'm not planning to do it any time.
And recently ?
You have 2.2 hours played in GMod over 2 weeks. Never saw you go on.
Removed my vote, I prefer to be neutral.
And how the hell you still think Nitro is good, you weren't on the server a long time because you think that the fail RP problem is global. It is not.

Quote from: lolKieck on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Dug on 01-06-2010
Kieck when is the last time you went on teamspeak?
Nitro always talks to the members of duty on it. And always mentions to them that they have to hand the stuff they aren't suppose to have , either to me or him. You know Nitro lost his powers as a SV for some time now. I forgot what he has been put to. He can't NO CLIP anymore. And recently I got a shitload of stuff from him. Guess where it came from? The duty members.
It's a rule in duty. You can stop making up shit now.

I was on teamspeak like... never ?
I don't have a teamspeak installed and I'm not planning to do it any time.
And recently ?
You have 2.2 hours played in GMod over 2 weeks. Never saw you go on.

I have a clan to commit to which I was given lead recently, and all of those 2.2 hours I spent roleplaying with duty. Mostly Nitro. And I know that he isn't abusing.

Quote from: Dug on 01-06-2010

Quote from: lolKieck on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Dug on 01-06-2010
Kieck when is the last time you went on teamspeak?
Nitro always talks to the members of duty on it. And always mentions to them that they have to hand the stuff they aren't suppose to have , either to me or him. You know Nitro lost his powers as a SV for some time now. I forgot what he has been put to. He can't NO CLIP anymore. And recently I got a shitload of stuff from him. Guess where it came from? The duty members.
It's a rule in duty. You can stop making up shit now.

I was on teamspeak like... never ?
I don't have a teamspeak installed and I'm not planning to do it any time.
And recently ?
You have 2.2 hours played in GMod over 2 weeks. Never saw you go on.

I have a clan to commit to which I was given lead recently, and all of those 2.2 hours I spent roleplaying with duty. Mostly Nitro. And I know that he isn't abusing.

I heard actually something like: "SRP sux now, because the people who play it fail hard".

To be honest that's an other thing that's stopping me from playing SRP. It does suck. As soon as a fight happens people turn into rage/whine/cry mode where no one wants to accept defeat. That's why I'm not playing it. I might even completely step out of the SRP scene and wait for FORP see how it goes. For now all I do on SRP is come on when Nitro asks me to.

EDIT: "Fail Hard" Yes they do Kieck, why would PaintCheck put up a thread about it then? Why would have I put up a thread about it? And I doubt anything has improved as I've been on just recently and people went ape shit about a fight.

Quote from: Chaos on 31-05-2010

Quote from: Astarathia on 30-05-2010
Ok ,short version: Commissar kind of took my arguments with these big-metaton-ass texts.

It hasn't changed my opinion because I'm not sure if it's true or not. You can't base it by how much he says. It was only a few points that rambled.
I haven't seen Nitro admining because I've taken a break from SRP, so I don't think Nitro should be demoted, but I don't support him either.
As for Crimzon the last time I was playing, he power-gamed and he's was a bad role model for new players. I'm unsure if he has improved.

Same deal - Got proof?
Because I sure as hell don't make a habit of power-gaming, although some would see it as such because they don't 'win'.

Quote from: Crimzon_Reaper on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Chaos on 31-05-2010

Quote from: Astarathia on 30-05-2010
Ok ,short version: Commissar kind of took my arguments with these big-metaton-ass texts.

It hasn't changed my opinion because I'm not sure if it's true or not. You can't base it by how much he says. It was only a few points that rambled.
I haven't seen Nitro admining because I've taken a break from SRP, so I don't think Nitro should be demoted, but I don't support him either.
As for Crimzon the last time I was playing, he power-gamed and he's was a bad role model for new players. I'm unsure if he has improved.

Same deal - Got proof?
Because I sure as hell don't make a habit of power-gaming, although some would see it as such because they don't 'win'.

What's the deal with this proof BS? A lot of people say you powergame. Now, that's either the truth, or it's a conspiracy. You do powergame, I've witnessed it. I'd rather have Nitro as an admin then you, and that's saying something.

Not to be unoffical or anything, but isnt this due to finish soon? Because its just turned into a flame war frankly.

Quote from: Welshy on 01-06-2010
Not to be unoffical or anything, but isnt this due to finish soon? Because its just turned into a flame war frankly.

I don't see any "FLAME" here.
I see people arguing with each other, because one likes that admin and one likes another.

It would be better if both admins would stay with their position.
If there will be a player with proof of certain admin breaking rules, then actions should be taken against admin.

I don't see how Silver ever thought this thread would be a good idea.  For almost every admin there is surely a group of people who are gonna jump on the chance to vote them off.

Quote from: kisftw on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Crimzon_Reaper on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Chaos on 31-05-2010

Quote from: Astarathia on 30-05-2010
Ok ,short version: Commissar kind of took my arguments with these big-metaton-ass texts.

It hasn't changed my opinion because I'm not sure if it's true or not. You can't base it by how much he says. It was only a few points that rambled.
I haven't seen Nitro admining because I've taken a break from SRP, so I don't think Nitro should be demoted, but I don't support him either.
As for Crimzon the last time I was playing, he power-gamed and he's was a bad role model for new players. I'm unsure if he has improved.

Same deal - Got proof?
Because I sure as hell don't make a habit of power-gaming, although some would see it as such because they don't 'win'.

What's the deal with this proof BS? A lot of people say you powergame. Now, that's either the truth, or it's a conspiracy. You do powergame, I've witnessed it. I'd rather have Nitro as an admin then you, and that's saying something.

Well , it could be a bad rumor that has spread out all across the members, because every last one of them has a different story which doesn't even make any sense. And please it's not BS. I'd really like proof of someone doing something bad before him being accused of doing it.

You don't have to like Crimzon or Nitro. No one is forcing you. You hate them? Okay , big deal. We don't care, keep it for your self. He did something actually wrong? Get proof.
Whenever I wanted to make a complaint I was told this. Get proof of an admin actually doing something wrong. Even if it's the player you are reporting, you must get proof.

Quote from: Dug on 01-06-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Crimzon_Reaper on 01-06-2010

Quote from: Chaos on 31-05-2010

Quote from: Astarathia on 30-05-2010
Ok ,short version: Commissar kind of took my arguments with these big-metaton-ass texts.

It hasn't changed my opinion because I'm not sure if it's true or not. You can't base it by how much he says. It was only a few points that rambled.
I haven't seen Nitro admining because I've taken a break from SRP, so I don't think Nitro should be demoted, but I don't support him either.
As for Crimzon the last time I was playing, he power-gamed and he's was a bad role model for new players. I'm unsure if he has improved.

Same deal - Got proof?
Because I sure as hell don't make a habit of power-gaming, although some would see it as such because they don't 'win'.

What's the deal with this proof BS? A lot of people say you powergame. Now, that's either the truth, or it's a conspiracy. You do powergame, I've witnessed it. I'd rather have Nitro as an admin then you, and that's saying something.

Well , it could be a bad rumor that has spread out all across the members, because every last one of them has a different story which doesn't even make any sense. And please it's not BS. I'd really like proof of someone doing something bad before him being accused of doing it.

You don't have to like Crimzon or Nitro. No one is forcing you. You hate them? Okay , big deal. We don't care, keep it for your self. He did something actually wrong? Get proof.
Whenever I wanted to make a complaint I was told this. Get proof of an admin actually doing something wrong. Even if it's the player you are reporting, you must get proof.

I don't hate anyone, this was stated previously. I just hate their actions. Rumors don't start unless there is some piece of truth embedded in it. The stories may differ, but they all state one particular message.

If you hate their actions, you hate them. Pretty simple. Rumors would be rumors, they might not be true at all.
You hate a person for doing something. Like you said you hate their actions which makes you hate them.
Proof beats rumors.

Simple fact is ladds i have never abused my position as an admin, I have broken no rules admin server or cannon, There are no grounds for me to loose my position. The only thing i can even be acused of is having an over powered char, And of being a cunt, and i openly admit and warn pepole that i am fundementaly unlikable, But im a good admin, That cannont be denied or argued over as not one of you can provied any form of proof over admin abuse, And that is the only ground for removal of admin, I have broken no rules. Now if you want to take personality into acount for sutability of admins then half the admin team and even silver himself are unsutible for their roles.

Admins arent admins to be everybodys freind, Admin are apointed to administrate the server, AKA teach new players ban minges/hackers/trolls/abusers. Now admins have freinds and those freinds are often new players or younger players. Now if a player brings a freind onto the server and that freind is a problem player either refusing to learn and abide by the rules and they get banned for whatever reason.

That leavse someone disliking an admin.  Internet or not its a human being on the other end, and admins often turn a blind eye to minor things whitch can snowball into major drama's.

Simple fact is i have no freinds so i have no reason not to ban/kick a player who refuses to behave apropratly. Im the bastard of the admin team, im hated by everyone so im neutral in 99% of every problem that is brought to my atencion i treat everyone the same, If you say somthing stupid, ignorant or racist im gonna rip you a new arse hole, But if you need help you get it.

In the past admins have asked me to deal with problems because they have freinds involved, I sorted them, Shit i spend half my time giving duty members a boloking for stupid actions and teaching them.

So quite frankly hate me if you want but you cant deny im a good admin.

Months ago when you were throwing players across the map wasn't being a good admin.

Quote from: Assassinator on 01-06-2010
Months ago when you were throwing players across the map wasn't being a good admin.

Mounths ago i wasent back at HGN ...

You realize you were at HGN at before at somepoint? And this time from the past was months before now, I didn't specify an exact time.

Got proof?

Quotei openly admit and warn pepole that i am fundementaly unlikable, But im a good admin

Error: Does not compute.

Quote from: Zstan on 01-06-2010

Quotei openly admit and warn pepole that i am fundementaly unlikable, But im a good admin

Error: Does not compute.

Read the rest not just one line.

Quote from: Commisar Nitro on 01-06-2010
Simple fact is ladds i have never abused my position as an admin, I have broken no rules admin server or cannon, There are no grounds for me to loose my position. The only thing i can even be acused of is having an over powered char, And of being a cunt, and i openly admit and warn pepole that i am fundementaly unlikable, But im a good admin, That cannont be denied or argued over as not one of you can provied any form of proof over admin abuse, And that is the only ground for removal of admin, I have broken no rules. Now if you want to take personality into acount for sutability of admins then half the admin team and even silver himself are unsutible for their roles.

Admins arent admins to be everybodys freind, Admin are apointed to administrate the server, AKA teach new players ban minges/hackers/trolls/abusers. Now admins have freinds and those freinds are often new players or younger players. Now if a player brings a freind onto the server and that freind is a problem player either refusing to learn and abide by the rules and they get banned for whatever reason.

That leavse someone disliking an admin.  Internet or not its a human being on the other end, and admins often turn a blind eye to minor things whitch can snowball into major drama's.

Simple fact is i have no freinds so i have no reason not to ban/kick a player who refuses to behave apropratly. Im the bastard of the admin team, im hated by everyone so im neutral in 99% of every problem that is brought to my atencion i treat everyone the same, If you say somthing stupid, ignorant or racist im gonna rip you a new arse hole, But if you need help you get it.

In the past admins have asked me to deal with problems because they have freinds involved, I sorted them, Shit i spend half my time giving duty members a boloking for stupid actions and teaching them.

So quite frankly hate me if you want but you cant deny im a good admin.

Commisar is a hard ass, and that is what makes him a good admin. If my word means anything the guy should keep his rank.

Quote from: Cobra on 01-06-2010
Commisar is a hard ass, and that is what makes him a good admin. If my word means anything the guy should keep his rank.

This.

Warning ahead is a post that may result in you flaming what I have to say, go ahead, I have nothing more to say after this.

A friend linked this post to me, normally I stay away from the forums for good reason, I don't play on the server all that much anymore. I go around freely, but this post is just calling for me to make a post about Nitro. Last I knew Crimzon was fine, but Nitro I have a vendetta against.

You can say "o but u dun go to teh serverz anymoar ur vote dun count lolz" or "but your never roleplayed with me, how can you know?" Let me get this straight, if you say any of those things, that's a poor as hell excuse to keep me from stating my reasons.

I have a list of reasons Nitro should be demoted, or lose his admin entirely
One: Look at his grammer, what the hell is that, did you forget how to spell check? did something happen to your keyboard? Are you absolutely sure you didn't scream at the screen while typing so badly? Whatever it is, I thought the admins were supposed to be "The best of the best roleplayers who can contain the community calmly and effectively"

Two: Last time I saw the forums, I saw alot of screaming over this "Halo" character, and how "Oh god, but I did SOOOO much training horseshit, I can apparently do all this with my gear I somehow got for so and so reasons, i'm invincible lolz" It doesn't matter if you waited months, it's all about realism here.

Three: I admit, I just plain dislike you, I remember your methods and your roleplaying when I was playing last year around this month. I didn't like you, and if you don't remember me, I remember you hating me just as much. I also believe that you lied about being in the hospital, I just think its a lie that seems almost too coincidental for you.

Point being, "Your not cut out for the job, you can take it like a man, and stop crying after everyone calls you out, or just keep doing this." I'm still alright with every other admin, but I have reasons to call this one out. I'm done talking for the next month or so.

@ Zero

2 out of your 3 'reasons' to demote Nitro are crap. 1 of 3 of your reasons is weak at best.

His grammar is not a priority when it comes to being an admin. It does help to understand, but doesn't matter.

Even if you disagree with his roleplaying ideals or his  attitude doesn't mean he needs to be demoted. So he is an asshole with a hard on for being strict. If I had to take care of people bitching everyday about loosing bread to a bandit, I'm sure I'd get irritated too.

As for your argument at his 'Halo' character. It does seem ridiculous and all. But he certainly wouldn't be the first guy too make an outrageous character. So, instead of removing his admin for making a God Character, just PK it instead.

Quote from: Khorn on 01-06-2010
@ Zero

2 out of your 3 'reasons' to demote Nitro are crap. 1 of 3 of your reasons is weak at best.

His grammar is not a priority when it comes to being an admin. It does help to understand, but doesn't matter.

Even if you disagree with his roleplaying ideals or his  attitude doesn't mean he needs to be demoted. So he is an asshole with a hard on for being strict. If I had to take care of people bitching everyday about loosing bread to a bandit, I'm sure I'd get irritated too.

As for your argument at his 'Halo' character. It does seem ridiculous and all. But he certainly wouldn't be the first guy too make an outrageous character. So, instead of removing his admin for making a God Character, just PK it instead.

You don't understand at all Khorn, Zero is saying "He doesn't act like a true Admin, he's not calm, he doesn't help others when players really need it." He's saying he's not well enough to be a Admin, his grammar is just a reason, the biggest is, he's not cut out to be a Admin, simple as that. And I agree with Zero, he's not well behaved to be a Admin, Crimzon is Alright at some situations, but Nitro is the worst at handling them.

I wouldn't say Nitro doesn't help anyone at all. I'm sure he  has dealt with new players more then enough times. Besides the fact he doesn't seem like a people person, he still does his job as an admin. Dealing with new players can be handled by anyone willing to try, but taking care of trouble makers can only be handled by admins.

And saying Nitro isn't cut out to be an admin with no explanation as to why you think that doesn't help me understand your position.

Besides, hard ass admins are needed in all servers.

LuLs, Your being pricks, he has dyslexia...

1st: No, just no...
2nd: Exile, You can't let these players choose. They are taking their personal grudges and using it against them. Crimzon and Commisar are very good admins, I have not had a single problem with either of them. 

Exile probably put this up because people probably have been spamming him with messages about how Nitro/Crimzon is doing 'blahhhh'.

If he wanted to, he could have just kicked them. Maybe he's just looking for opinions.

Nitro > Crimzon

I don't see how every admin needs to be perfect, after all we are all human.

Quote from: Zero on 01-06-2010
Warning ahead is a post that may result in you flaming what I have to say, go ahead, I have nothing more to say after this.

A friend linked this post to me, normally I stay away from the forums for good reason, I don't play on the server all that much anymore. I go around freely, but this post is just calling for me to make a post about Nitro. Last I knew Crimzon was fine, but Nitro I have a vendetta against.

You can say "o but u dun go to teh serverz anymoar ur vote dun count lolz" or "but your never roleplayed with me, how can you know?" Let me get this straight, if you say any of those things, that's a poor as hell excuse to keep me from stating my reasons.

I have a list of reasons Nitro should be demoted, or lose his admin entirely
One: Look at his grammer, what the hell is that, did you forget how to spell check? did something happen to your keyboard? Are you absolutely sure you didn't scream at the screen while typing so badly? Whatever it is, I thought the admins were supposed to be "The best of the best roleplayers who can contain the community calmly and effectively"

Two: Last time I saw the forums, I saw alot of screaming over this "Halo" character, and how "Oh god, but I did SOOOO much training horseshit, I can apparently do all this with my gear I somehow got for so and so reasons, i'm invincible lolz" It doesn't matter if you waited months, it's all about realism here.

Three: I admit, I just plain dislike you, I remember your methods and your roleplaying when I was playing last year around this month. I didn't like you, and if you don't remember me, I remember you hating me just as much. I also believe that you lied about being in the hospital, I just think its a lie that seems almost too coincidental for you.

Point being, "Your not cut out for the job, you can take it like a man, and stop crying after everyone calls you out, or just keep doing this." I'm still alright with every other admin, but I have reasons to call this one out. I'm done talking for the next month or so.

One: Im dyslexic, and i dont have a spell checker on my rig as i built it for gaming only word prosesor i have is notepad.

Two: All you saw was a thread on a char, You arent aware of the situation so forming an opinion on it fine, But dont use it in a thread such as this as it is a half truth.

Three: I can show you medical records.

Quote from: Commisar Nitro on 02-06-2010

Quote from: Zero on 01-06-2010
Warning ahead is a post that may result in you flaming what I have to say, go ahead, I have nothing more to say after this.

A friend linked this post to me, normally I stay away from the forums for good reason, I don't play on the server all that much anymore. I go around freely, but this post is just calling for me to make a post about Nitro. Last I knew Crimzon was fine, but Nitro I have a vendetta against.

You can say "o but u dun go to teh serverz anymoar ur vote dun count lolz" or "but your never roleplayed with me, how can you know?" Let me get this straight, if you say any of those things, that's a poor as hell excuse to keep me from stating my reasons.

I have a list of reasons Nitro should be demoted, or lose his admin entirely
One: Look at his grammer, what the hell is that, did you forget how to spell check? did something happen to your keyboard? Are you absolutely sure you didn't scream at the screen while typing so badly? Whatever it is, I thought the admins were supposed to be "The best of the best roleplayers who can contain the community calmly and effectively"

Two: Last time I saw the forums, I saw alot of screaming over this "Halo" character, and how "Oh god, but I did SOOOO much training horseshit, I can apparently do all this with my gear I somehow got for so and so reasons, i'm invincible lolz" It doesn't matter if you waited months, it's all about realism here.

Three: I admit, I just plain dislike you, I remember your methods and your roleplaying when I was playing last year around this month. I didn't like you, and if you don't remember me, I remember you hating me just as much. I also believe that you lied about being in the hospital, I just think its a lie that seems almost too coincidental for you.

Point being, "Your not cut out for the job, you can take it like a man, and stop crying after everyone calls you out, or just keep doing this." I'm still alright with every other admin, but I have reasons to call this one out. I'm done talking for the next month or so.

One: Im dyslexic, and i dont have a spell checker on my rig as i built it for gaming only word prosesor i have is notepad.

Two: All you saw was a thread on a char, You arent aware of the situation so forming an opinion on it fine, But dont use it in a thread such as this as it is a half truth.

Three: I can show you medical records.

Don't bother with the records, just let zero flame/rant/bitch/moan.

[size=16]KEEP IT CIVIL

I dont get on very well with you Nitro.
But by what the players are saying, it actually seems your a decent admin.
Just misunderstood i guess.

Im going to take back my vote.

Thankfully, it seems a lot of people are taking back their votes.

Quote from: kisftw on 01-06-2010
Nitro > Crimzon

You've stated this opinion enough. Unless you have something else to contribute, please just stop posting in this thread.

All I can say is, if anything get's fishy start taking demos.

Coming back a week after the fact and making accusations just make you look like an idiot.

That said, accusations with proof shouldn't go without investigation :|

Quote from: Crimzon_Reaper on 02-06-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 01-06-2010
Nitro > Crimzon

You've stated this opinion enough. Unless you have something else to contribute, please just stop posting in this thread.

I've stated it twice. So stop trying to kick me out of the thread, yeah?

Quote from: Last.Exile on 28-05-2010
Recently ive been notified of discontent about both Commisar and Crimzon being an admin by various players and i would like to see what the playerbase thinks and should be done about both of these people. This is a serious thread so no flaming or going off topic.

Please leave a comment here on this agender and vote in the poll above.

Basically:

Stop fighting.
This thread is meant to state your opinion.

Quote from: Jake on 02-06-2010

Quote from: Last.Exile on 28-05-2010
Recently ive been notified of discontent about both Commisar and Crimzon being an admin by various players and i would like to see what the playerbase thinks and should be done about both of these people. This is a serious thread so no flaming or going off topic.

Please leave a comment here on this agender and vote in the poll above.

Basically:

Stop fighting.
This thread is meant to state your opinion.

You sir have won. He actually read the first post.

Quote from: Dug on 02-06-2010

Quote from: Jake on 02-06-2010

Quote from: Last.Exile on 28-05-2010
Recently ive been notified of discontent about both Commisar and Crimzon being an admin by various players and i would like to see what the playerbase thinks and should be done about both of these people. This is a serious thread so no flaming or going off topic.

Please leave a comment here on this agender and vote in the poll above.

Basically:

Stop fighting.
This thread is meant to state your opinion.

You sir have won. He actually read the first post.

Yarp, but some 'opinions' seem to be going askew, and people are pointing fingers without any argument or reasoning.

Quote from: kisftw on 02-06-2010

Quote from: Crimzon_Reaper on 02-06-2010

Quote from: kisftw on 01-06-2010
Nitro > Crimzon

You've stated this opinion enough. Unless you have something else to contribute, please just stop posting in this thread.

I've stated it twice. So stop trying to kick me out of the thread, yeah?

Once was more than enough.

Quote from: Dug on 02-06-2010
I don't see how every admin needs to be perfect, after all we are all human.

I agree, no admin needs to be perfect, I might have overreacted, but understand that even though I left, I still care that the community functions. Nitro I'm sorry if what I said might have appeared to be flaming you. Think of it as constructive criticisms. Fix all those issues and I have nothing to complain about.

I've said my piece.

I've had no problems with either, and both seem pretty decent, if not better.

**Crim for president.