We want to find out what the players of the server think of our admin team to help improve the administration. You may put forward both negative and positive feedback for them. We also want to know if any of you feel a member is worthy of becoming an admin. We just want to get some feedback on what the players think and try and improve our Stalker Roleplay.
A few admins like to have god-like or 'magical' characters. I won't mention any names, but all of them have been or are admins. (The ones I know of)
They should play fairly like the rest of us. I'm not talking about all admins, because yes their are admins that play fair.
Fun I mean Sickness made FUCKING SLEDS SLEDS! and we rode them ask him about it
Who I think is doing the best job is Paint. The rest are doing a good job, I just think Paint is handling problems the most on the server at the moment.
Quote from: Chaos on 01-05-2010
A few admins like to have god-like or 'magical' characters. I won't mention any names, but all of them have been or are admins. (The ones I know of)
They should play fairly like the rest of us. I'm not talking about all admins, because yes their are admins that play fair.
Can you describe how they are magical and god like? I am just curious.
Well, id like to voice my opinion on a player that i think is worthy for admin.
I personally think Dug is a very worthy for such a role.
Why?
Hes had dedication to HGN for the entire time he has been here, he shows enthusiasm when RPing and with ALL of HGN's projects.
And above all, hes a rather mature player with a clear understanding of the rules, ive never had any back-chat from him, nor any abuse in any kind.
Assassinator, Midnight are worthy of admin.
I think the admin team in general needs to become more active and open to helping players. I know I'm being a hypocrite since I am taking a break but five seconds to write a line and give a player his flag after thirty seconds to check if he has it or not can't be THAT bad of a hassle, considering you chose to be an admin and help the STALKER Roleplay populace.
All things considered I can agree that in general the admin team is doing well and Paintcheck has performed excellently.
Well I am going to be more active... Which I have been getting on more often and I already caught a few little badies. So ill be active and you can count on me.
Quote from: Cobra on 01-05-2010
Quote from: Chaos on 01-05-2010
A few admins like to have god-like or 'magical' characters. I won't mention any names, but all of them have been or are admins. (The ones I know of)
They should play fairly like the rest of us. I'm not talking about all admins, because yes their are admins that play fair.
Can you describe how they are magical and god like? I am just curious.
Like I know a few who get away with powergaming, I've seen some rp to have bullet stopping powers (wtf?) and they usually just ass pull it out of nowhere.
I mean, there are X-men in the Zone. A guy who can teleport out of nowhere, or dissapear very quick, or they can freeze, giving you no chanche to fight.
I mean come on, STALKER was strange, BUT not with super humans.
Quote from: Aresty on 03-05-2010
I mean, there are X-men in the Zone. A guy who can teleport out of nowhere, or dissapear very quick, or they can freeze, giving you no chanche to fight.
I mean come on, STALKER was strange, BUT not with super humans.
Give examples of said X-men
Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 03-05-2010
Quote from: Aresty on 03-05-2010
I mean, there are X-men in the Zone. A guy who can teleport out of nowhere, or disappear very quick, or they can freeze, giving you no chance to fight.
I mean come on, STALKER was strange, BUT not with super humans.
Give examples of said X-men
Longlostblake had Mist powers or something and he could 'stop bullets' with it, then he made a droid robot and attacked Freedom base with it. (Yes I know blake isn't admin but he used to be) Also blake, you've avoided PK's before. Radek's character Vladimir 'Blaze' Stovik always wins. Crimzon_Reaper I guess your fun to talk rp with but every fight I see you power game.
Alright now to the positive side of the administration. Alright Paintcheck is doing a very good job in his new position, he's very active on the forums and the server (the first CSV to accomplish it?). Celtic is doing a good job as well and I think he deserves SA. That is all.
Quote from: Chaos on 03-05-2010
Radek's character Vladimir 'Blaze' Stovik always wins.
Radek seems to have an incredible sense of luck. Every time he beats me it's because someone else intervenes. For example on Ryan Jones I once held Blaze to knife point. Dutch then walked along on his eco and threw a knife at my face.
Thanks for the kind words every body.
And I've been hearing lots of complaints about certain other members powergaming as well. I'm going to start cracking down on it (and more than just "Kicked for power gaming")
Radek wins because he's an awesome leader. I've gone up against him in STK fights a lot of times and he still holds the better score for leading his squad. It's not like Radek can powergame winning a fight that is based on co-ordination anyways.
I admit im currently inactive, im a pretty busy person at the moment, hell look at the ammount of hours ive played on steam, hardley anything at all.
Nitro does not deserve admin. I don't know how he got it, maybe bribe or somesuch. But everyone should be well aware of his ill-mannered tendencies to 'roid-rage. And at first, I had a pretty high respect for Crimzon and Welshy, but after the stunt them and Nitro pulled on Monolith lair the other day, make me revoke almost all respect I had for them. Nitro was a STALKER who asspulled tons of different explosives and bombed the way into Monolith base. Now Welshy didn't do much to warrant any sort of hatred, but he did participate in this spectacle of powergaming/asspulling. Crimzon, as a female rp, dragged a wounded man UP a VENT from an area that was supposed to be a dead end. And lolplanted some sort of explosive on the gate, so that whoever was unfortunate to open the door died. This, in my opinion, is a horrible abuse of power. And I can't explain to you how many times Mr. Roid has threatened to ban me for the shittiest of reasons. I was once threatened for removing duty barricades. Now normally, I would agree, that is a bad thing to do. BUT, ONE, no DUTYiers were present and Nitro had just gotten online. And TWO, all day I had been getting connection errors that the people here on HGN warned, stemmed from props being near spawn. And THREE, DUTY is supposed to be a safe haven for stalkers, now it's barrricaded to shit. I don't remember this being in the games. Now this is only my personal opinion, but I feel something should be done to rectify this situation. That really isn't the end of it, but it's already wall-of-texty as it is.
I hold no respect for Nitro mainly because of his lack of care for any of the members here. Can't say much for myself, LOL! But the respect and courtesy Nitro shows to anyone is hardly present.
Quote from: Commisar Nitro on 22-05-2010
How stupid are your Crim... You know this is the worst idea in the world.
Kinda like this for the custom items thread. I mean wow, you're a community leader, erm, is this how you talk to all super-admins.
Hmm.. Well the ones who are doing good in my opinion are listed below
Paintcheck: He is active, Constantly dealing with complaints and Edrama
Nitro: Everyone bitches about how bad he is, In my Opinion he isn't all that bad. i do have trouble understanding his accent.
KingArthur: This guy is fun,mature.. He is good at settling Powergaming/UnRp bizniz.
Crimzon: He is funneh, Active, And a good staff member.
ThY: GOD DAMNIT! WHAT ARE YOU PAYING HIM! THIS ADMIN IS EPIC! :D
Quote from: Alexander Degtyarev on 22-05-2010
Hmm.. Well the ones who are doing good in my opinion are listed below
Paintcheck: He is active, Constantly dealing with complaints and Edrama
Nitro: Everyone bitches about how bad he is, In my Opinion he isn't all that bad. i do have trouble understanding his accent.
KingArthur: This guy is fun,mature.. He is good at settling Powergaming/UnRp bizniz.
Crimzon: He is funneh, Active, And a good staff member.
All the other admins are not listed, Due to me not being on when they are..
I lol'd. Although you had two right.
Quote from: Assassinator on 23-05-2010
Quote from: Alexander Degtyarev on 22-05-2010
Hmm.. Well the ones who are doing good in my opinion are listed below
Paintcheck: He is active, Constantly dealing with complaints and Edrama
Nitro: Everyone bitches about how bad he is, In my Opinion he isn't all that bad. i do have trouble understanding his accent.
KingArthur: This guy is fun,mature.. He is good at settling Powergaming/UnRp bizniz.
Crimzon: He is funneh, Active, And a good staff member.
All the other admins are not listed, Due to me not being on when they are..
I lol'd. Although you had two right.
Yeah, I agree, 2 were right. KA and P
But I haven't seen Nitro 'in action' so I'm not sure about him.
Quote from: Chaos on 23-05-2010
Quote from: Assassinator on 23-05-2010
Quote from: Alexander Degtyarev on 22-05-2010
Hmm.. Well the ones who are doing good in my opinion are listed below
Paintcheck: He is active, Constantly dealing with complaints and Edrama
Nitro: Everyone bitches about how bad he is, In my Opinion he isn't all that bad. i do have trouble understanding his accent.
KingArthur: This guy is fun,mature.. He is good at settling Powergaming/UnRp bizniz.
Crimzon: He is funneh, Active, And a good staff member.
All the other admins are not listed, Due to me not being on when they are..
I lol'd. Although you had two right.
Yeah, I agree, 2 were right. KA and P
I don't know about Arthur, I've only seen him once, he seems like a decent guy though. And Paintcheck upholds his end. But see above Alexander's post to see a little but of how 'well' Nitro behaves.
LOL if you think nitros bad. You should have seen Teamspeak when Clutch got kicked . . . holll shit that was funny. He was so fucking rage its like 'ARGHFGLJKDFLGJFDHLKDFHGLFDKJHFDLKJH' Get the fuck out of my faction.
Serious chat:
Ya paintcheck is doing good. I just doubt Crimzon . . .
Quote from: Flash on 25-05-2010
LOL if you think nitros bad. You should have seen Teamspeak when Clutch got kicked . . . holll shit that was funny. He was so fucking rage its like 'ARGHFGLJKDFLGJFDHLKDFHGLFDKJHFDLKJH' Get the fuck out of my faction.
Serious chat:
Ya paintcheck is doing good. I just doubt Crimzon . . .
People who knew him 5 months or 6 ago, sure think he is one of the worst admins ever.
PaintCheck is my favorite admin, he helps out and does alot of shit and in-game, he acts like a regular character NOT powergaming like some admins, im not saying any specific names though cause idont want to look like a jackass.
But the other thing is how a admin uses his powers to make his "group" a very powerful one. Nobody will do shit about it cause he has powers, and im pretty much sick of it.
Quote from: GeneralGold on 28-05-2010
PaintCheck is my favorite admin, he helps out and does alot of shit and in-game, he acts like a regular character NOT powergaming like some admins, im not saying any specific names though cause idont want to look like a jackass.
But the other thing is how a admin uses his powers to make his "group" a very powerful one. Nobody will do shit about it cause he has powers, and im pretty much sick of it.
Oh please SHUT UP.
Not one admin power was abused in the obtaining of IC items for a faction in which I was a part of. Every item there and used was authorized by a CSV.
Please use what little common sense you can piece together to realize that before you even open your mouth, you should have both sides of, and the complete story.
You in particular are one annoying person that I'd rather was just disciplined possessing an IQ under sixty, and a mouth like a bloody motorbike.
And if you want to prove me wrong, go ahead. You muster up some half-arsed argument against me that actually proves that I have abuse my administrative powers for the items I have. I'd be glad to beat you down with a five tonne weight, kid, 'cause I'm sick of you lot.
Quote from: Flash on 28-05-2010
That CSV was welshy leader of your faction. Yes Yes I'll SHUT UP! about it. Anyway it was volded sure sure.
"Please use what little common sense you can piece together to realize that before you even open your mouth, you should have both sides of, and the complete story."
That CSV was Paintcheck. Please just stop talking.
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Edit, after Flash removed his post:
Yeah, I thought so too, mate.
Crimzon, show some respect to the players.
Quote from: lolKieck on 28-05-2010
Quote from: Flash on 25-05-2010
LOL if you think nitros bad. You should have seen Teamspeak when Clutch got kicked . . . holll shit that was funny. He was so fucking rage its like 'ARGHFGLJKDFLGJFDHLKDFHGLFDKJHFDLKJH' Get the fuck out of my faction.
Serious chat:
Ya paintcheck is doing good. I just doubt Crimzon . . .
People who knew him 5 months or 6 ago, sure think he is one of the worst admins ever.
Forgive and forget **Censored**
Oh wow, Crimzon has mod? That's a scary thought.
Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 28-05-2010
Crimzon, show some respect to the players.
I'll show as much as I receive, because I'm not going to go out of my way to sugar-coat my posts in reply to people have shown me way more than just a bit of disrespect, despite me confronting them about it.
However, if it makes everyone feel better, I'll soften up the text a little.
So, I have a question, whats everyone's thought on Plunger/Layton?
Especially to his 'undercover' operation he did today/tonight?
Crimzon the reason you received the position that you are in now. Is because the way you help new players and resolve issues with others. The way that you were dedicated and played always super active never powergamed never metagamed. That was the crimzon we once knew but even since you received your position and got into Black Rain Mess. You've turned into a monster. That is why people have requested you demoted or possibly kicked from the adminstrator team.
Crimzon the bottem line is 'Show Respect , Get Respect'. The way you treat the players is out of frustration anger and other issues. If you want this steady steam to blow over. You have to change yourself and your characters. You've ass pulled caches your answer when players argue why you did that 'Oh , This character is like Two Years old OOCLY I have all the weapons now.'. No That isn't a valid reason Crimzon just because your character is old OOCLY doesn't mean that you can do that. Of course 2-3 years in the zone. You would get a little bit far but not alot far. Joining a Merc group started by just a couple of your average mercs doesn't mean anything. It isn't some secret military para-military merc group sent into the zone just to make money. Its just a group of mercs to get by there trying to make something of themselves.
Stop being so power hungry. 'My faction has to be number one.' No it doesn't have to be number one Black Rain can be the lowest faction you would rage. Yes that is the position of your faction. You care so much about how your character is / how powerful it is. ITs not about collecting gear getting better gear. This server is about roleplaying and developing your character as a hole not collecting twenty five exosuits or such.
Crimzon just calm down and change how your character is. Maybe just kill off the character and start a new line. Not being the same thing. Sometimes characters get old. Just calm down change your ways of roleplaying and its fine. Your here to help us not help yourself. The only reason there are admins around is to help and judge players. Not to help themselves and make there faction or character better but to the help the community as a whole. Please just follow what I said and take it lightly Crimzon its the truth ok.
Now onto Khorns post no I haven't seen Layton on in awhile. What was his 'undercover' operation about Khorn ? Like raid the zone and steal or something ?
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
So, I have a question, whats everyone's thought on Plunger/Layton?
Especially to his 'undercover' operation he did today/tonight?
One time I was playing a bloodsucker on redux, he had an exo and was hunting me. Exo can't sprint, and he was in like 5 seconds near my location, when I ran the map from bottom right to upper left. So either I saw him abusing his admin powers (observe mode) or I was coming onto him somehow.
The best I can describe what happen was; someone joined the server as 'dickbutts'.
New player started to ask for guns, people said no, he continued.
About 5 minutes later people ask me to kill him since I was a blood sucker. I stupidly did of course.
Then people spawn camped 'dickbutts'. (Don't ask who, was like 4 people doing it.)
I came to the spawn and clawed at the corpses. People tried to feed me.
Then all the sudden I had my flag removed and people started to get banned for 300 minutes.
I would be totally fine with a ban for 5 hours for one DM, but removing the flag is excessive.
But one thing that is strange is that Plunger gave no warning to anyone at all.
Basically, if you took part of what happen near spawn, from over DMing or just clawing at the corpses, you got a 5 hour ban. As for me though I had my flag removed.
I would consider that admin abuse. I always thought it was; Warning, Ban for X time(Depending on how much you continued after warning), and that's all.
What happen though was instant 5 hour ban(and flag removal for me) regardless of how much you took part in the 'event'.
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
The best I can describe what happen was; someone joined the server as 'dickbutts'.
New player started to ask for guns, people said no, he continued.
About 5 minutes later people ask me to kill him since I was a blood sucker. I stupidly did of course.
Then people spawn camped 'dickbutts'. (Don't ask who, was like 4 people doing it.)
I came to the spawn and clawed at the corpses. People tried to feed me.
Then all the sudden I had my flag removed and people started to get banned for 300 minutes.
I would be totally fine with a ban for 5 hours for one DM, but removing the flag is excessive.
But one thing that is strange is that Plunger gave no warning to anyone at all.
Basically, if you took part of what happen near spawn, from over DMing or just clawing at the corpses, you got a 5 hour ban. As for me though I had my flag removed.
I would consider that admin abuse. I always thought it was; Warning, Ban for X time(Depending on how much you continued after warning), and that's all.
What happen though was instant 5 hour ban(and flag removal for me) regardless of how much you took part in the 'event'.
Okay, now I'll tell how it really went.
Dickbutt asked for guns in OOC after joining, and got this response from Alex. "No guns, but I've got a bullet for you right here." - Alex. Now before he even started saying that in OOC Alex had been Deathmatching him. Then you walk up, and start hitting him as well without any RP. When he spawns Alex, you, and Turk are waiting for him there and procede to Deathmatch him some more. I didn't hear you say anything along the lines of, "Don't DM." Since all I could hear was Alex shooting, and you slashing. The reason your flags were removed was because you were using them to Random Deathmatch, which flag removal is the punishment for. And I counted that he was Deathmatched twenty times.
So I'll just tl:dr.
You were Deathmatching on bloodsucker, got your flags rempved, and banned. Now your complaining abuse by changing the story.
Quote from: Plunger on 30-05-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
The best I can describe what happen was; someone joined the server as 'dickbutts'.
New player started to ask for guns, people said no, he continued.
About 5 minutes later people ask me to kill him since I was a blood sucker. I stupidly did of course.
Then people spawn camped 'dickbutts'. (Don't ask who, was like 4 people doing it.)
I came to the spawn and clawed at the corpses. People tried to feed me.
Then all the sudden I had my flag removed and people started to get banned for 300 minutes.
I would be totally fine with a ban for 5 hours for one DM, but removing the flag is excessive.
But one thing that is strange is that Plunger gave no warning to anyone at all.
Basically, if you took part of what happen near spawn, from over DMing or just clawing at the corpses, you got a 5 hour ban. As for me though I had my flag removed.
I would consider that admin abuse. I always thought it was; Warning, Ban for X time(Depending on how much you continued after warning), and that's all.
What happen though was instant 5 hour ban(and flag removal for me) regardless of how much you took part in the 'event'.
Okay, now I'll tell how it really went.
Dickbutt asked for guns in OOC after joining, and got this response from Alex. "No guns, but I've got a bullet for you right here." - Alex. Now before he even started saying that in OOC Alex had been Deathmatching him. Then you walk up, and start hitting him as well without any RP. When he spawns Alex, you, and Turk are waiting for him there and procede to Deathmatch him some more. I didn't hear you say anything along the lines of, "Don't DM." Since all I could hear was Alex shooting, and you slashing. The reason your flags were removed was because you were using them to Random Deathmatch, which flag removal is the punishment for. And I counted that he was Deathmatched twenty times.
So I'll just tl:dr.
You were Deathmatching on bloodsucker, got your flags rempved, and banned. Now your complaining abuse by changing the story.
This was my fault, I saw that guy in spawn and thought he was a enemy of mine (From the specialist). Being a jackass i completely forget that my enemy's names/game list are different. First the name was 'dickbutts' not 'DickInYourButt' second he owned garrysmod, The other guy didn't.
tl;dr
It was my fault.
I didn't change the story at all, I told what I saw. He asked for guns, people killed him. I killed him once(which was stupid) and later clawed corpses at spawn. You then proceeded to ban without warning.
Don't go and say I changed the story, cause I haven't. You should have stepped in as an admin and gave a warning after the first incident. Instead you decided to wait and just ban everyone for 5 hours without even seeing who did what.
Oh, and here you go:
QuoteDeathmatching
Deathmatching is the act of killing people for no reason at all, or for a very silly reason. This is up to the admins to decide what deathmatching is, so try to Role Play everything you do regardless of if you think you have to.
Punishments
1: Warning and kick
2: 30 minute ban
3: Ban until restart
4: Permanent ban
And what Plunger did;
1: Flag removal, 300 minute ban
This isn't about me being banned or losing my flag. This is about you being a bad admin.
I think it is up to admin to decide what punishment he gives.
Plunger said that you massively DMed the new guy.
Do you really deserve a warning after you did the same thing over and over again?
OH and, you abused your flag, you get it removed.
FIN?
Again, I admit to killing once. Second, the rules state a warning is to be issued. If HGN is working on Admins can create their own rules, then I must say, it will become very shitty.
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
I didn't change the story at all, I told what I saw. He asked for guns, people killed him. I killed him once(which was stupid) and later clawed corpses at spawn. You then proceeded to ban without warning.
Don't go and say I changed the story, cause I haven't. You should have stepped in as an admin and gave a warning after the first incident. Instead you decided to wait and just ban everyone for 5 hours without even seeing who did what.
Oh, and here you go:
QuoteDeathmatching
Deathmatching is the act of killing people for no reason at all, or for a very silly reason. This is up to the admins to decide what deathmatching is, so try to Role Play everything you do regardless of if you think you have to.
Punishments
1: Warning and kick
2: 30 minute ban
3: Ban until restart
4: Permanent ban
And what Plunger did;
1: Flag removal, 300 minute ban
This isn't about me being banned or losing my flag. This is about you being a bad admin.
Yeah normally it applies to Deathmatching, but he was deathmatched twenty times, not once. According to your logic I can deathmatch fifty people, and only get a warning.
Well then you should have stepped in and did what should have been done.
Thing is, if someone DMs, you kick them with a warning, if they return and continue you ban for an amount of time, if they persist, you ban for longer.
Regardless of how much one person DMed, you still need to issue a warning and kick.
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
Well then you should have stepped in and did what should have been done.
Thing is, if someone DMs, you kick them with a warning, if they return and continue you ban for an amount of time, if they persist, you ban for longer.
Regardless of how much one person DMed, you still need to issue a warning and kick.
So your telling me, if a guy DM's the entire server, I should warn, and kick him?
Yep, since that is how the rules are stated.
As I recall, it wasn't one man killing everyone. But like 4 people killing one guy.
Also, shouldn't admins stop shit before it happens? Or wait until fights break out?
Quote from: Plunger on 30-05-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
Well then you should have stepped in and did what should have been done.
Thing is, if someone DMs, you kick them with a warning, if they return and continue you ban for an amount of time, if they persist, you ban for longer.
Regardless of how much one person DMed, you still need to issue a warning and kick.
So your telling me, if a guy DM's the entire server, I should warn, and kick him?
Apparently so, hahaha. Khorn, just apologize, it is a lot easier than making a big deal about it on the forums. Plunger had all the right to do that, he was doing his job. Just wait a while and get your flags back some other time.
Again, this isn't about the flag, it's about how Plunger could have stepped in and stopped it at the Alex guy.
Quote from: PlungerDickbutt asked for guns in OOC after joining, and got this response from Alex. "No guns, but I've got a bullet for you right here." - Alex. Now before he even started saying that in OOC Alex had been Deathmatching him.
After that, Plunger should have said something and kicked with a warning.
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
Again, this isn't about the flag, it's about how Plunger could have stepped in and stopped it at the Alex guy.
Quote from: PlungerDickbutt asked for guns in OOC after joining, and got this response from Alex. "No guns, but I've got a bullet for you right here." - Alex. Now before he even started saying that in OOC Alex had been Deathmatching him.
After that, Plunger should have said something and kicked with a warning.
The point of being undercover is that you find all the people who DM when admins aren't on, not just one. Now stop making excuses for your DM.
So, in other words, it's ok to join the server with a different name and just insta-ban anyone breaking rules? And again, this isn't about trying to make an excuse for DMing, I said I was stupid to kill once. And after the first kill I stopped.
This is about how you went straight to banning players with no regard to the rules Exile made.
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
So, in other words, it's ok to join the server with a different name and just insta-ban anyone breaking rules? And again, this isn't about trying to make an excuse for DMing, I said I was stupid to kill once. And after the first kill I stopped.
This is about how you went straight to banning players with no regard to the rules Exile made.
LastxExile was DM'ed by Ping-Pong, and immediately banned him.
It is damn right. Players should know when to say: Okay ,we DM'ed him once, better stop. But you didn't, from what I understand you and the group of 4 players kept on killing the new guy.
Again, I clawed corpses at spawn, only killed him once at warehouses.
But thanks to Plunger, it has become clear to me how HGN works.
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
Again, I clawed corpses at spawn, only killed him once at warehouses.
But thanks to Plunger, it has become clear to me how HGN works.
Don't rage, my boy.
I fail to see the rage you are talking about, sport.
Quote from: Plunger on 30-05-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 30-05-2010
So, in other words, it's ok to join the server with a different name and just insta-ban anyone breaking rules? And again, this isn't about trying to make an excuse for DMing, I said I was stupid to kill once. And after the first kill I stopped.
This is about how you went straight to banning players with no regard to the rules Exile made.
LastxExile was DM'ed by Ping-Pong, and immediately banned him.
It's true, but I was unbanned shortly for kissing ass. *Wink* Then I came back a year after it happened and actually roleplayed, seeing that it was so much fun.
To be honest I feel that was a very sly move of you Plunger.
I understand that Khorn is a good member of HGN, you simple lured him into a unfair trap.
All I can say is that like 2 people asked me to kill him, so I walked after him to the warehouse. I tried to give him a chance to run. But whatever. I'm over it now.
I understand now that people are just gonna interpret the rules in ways they see fit.
Both admins and players alike.
Try reading the small print and disclaimer on the donator info. Admins have the right to take any donator related things away from you for whatever reason they see fit. Keep this in mind when you break the rules even SLIGHTLY. If you do things right with your flags you'll give them no reason to think about taking it away, but god help you when you decide to fuck up.
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 30-05-2010
Try reading the small print and disclaimer on the donator info. Admins have the right to take any donator related things away from you for whatever reason they see fit. Keep this in mind when you break the rules even SLIGHTLY. If you do things right with your flags you'll give them no reason to think about taking it away, but god help you when you decide to fuck up.
Again, I say, it's not about the flags.
People should be reporting these as they happen, not weeks/months after the fact.
People shouldn't use other people breaking the rules as an excuse to exempt themselves from the rules. "So and So did it so, I can do it too."
Most admins shouldn't be heavily involved with factions (it causes darma lawl), nor have the ability to remove donator flags _at a fucking whim_. If some one's abusing a flag, they can be banned/removed from the server, removing the flag with the in-ability to add it is fucking stupid, especially considering it costs money. Also keep in mind how often people get admin and how often people _abuse it without getting it removed_. I've seen most admins be completely exempted from rules or get a slight slap on the wrists I've said this in another thread, but admin status needs to be less permanent If some one fucks with it, remove it If you feel they've matured a bit, give it back and if they fuck with it again just bar them from it.
I've run servers before and people DO change when you fucking remove their admin powers. Showing that you will do nothing/very little when they abuse it will only result in people abusing it. Same basic princible for raising a kid.
IDTTTTTT ( I don't think they thought that through thorougly)
Actually, it partially is. Him taking your flag runs right in with the banning and other things that make him apearantly unfit for admin duty. I only addressed a small part of the problem, yes, I didn't address the fact it seems everyone got the same punishment, which should keep it from happening again. And no, he shouldn't have had to warn you. Why? Because it shouldn't have been done in the first place at all.
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 30-05-2010And no, he shouldn't have had to warn you. Why? Because it shouldn't have been done in the first place at all.
Agreed. Too many grudges around here.
Quote from: Bielecki on 30-05-2010
To be honest I feel that was a very sly move of you Plunger.
I understand that Khorn is a good member of HGN, you simple lured him into a unfair trap.
The point of undercover is finding out how they react to noobs when admins aren't on. Which we found is DM'ing them.
Quote from: Plunger on 30-05-2010
Quote from: Bielecki on 30-05-2010
To be honest I feel that was a very sly move of you Plunger.
I understand that Khorn is a good member of HGN, you simple lured him into a unfair trap.
The point of undercover is finding out how they react to noobs when admins aren't on. Which we found is DM'ing them.
It's sly for you to catch us red handed. Shame on you plunger.
You should follow rules regardless of admin presence or not.
Quote from: Bielecki on 30-05-2010
To be honest I feel that was a very sly move of you Plunger.
I understand that Khorn is a good member of HGN, you simple lured him into a unfair trap.
Unfair? So it's okay to break rules when admins aren't present, it's unfair that he didn't know an admin was on? You shouldn't be breaking rules like this regardless if there's an admin on or not.
Edit: Ehh, Ludicris, I just saw your post after I wrote the above, I didn't copy you even though it seems like I did.
I guess I'm the only person to have ever broken rules, damn...
ThY is the greatest!? WHO FORGOT ABOUT HIM? :D
I don't friendly sucker and he help on my character ICly from getting killed by the Mili
Quote from: RG4ORDR on 31-05-2010
I don't friendly sucker and he help on my character ICly from getting killed by the Mili
How is this even related to the topic?
Quote from: RG4ORDR on 31-05-2010
I don't friendly sucker and he help on my character ICly from getting killed by the Mili
I dont agree with friendly/neutural suckers AT ALL.
As much as i love ThY.
To add my little comment to the discussion, what i think he meant with unfair is that, imagine someone holding sugar in their hands, and his waving it infront of you.
You want it and after a few minutes you decide to take it, only to find out it was a trap and that he now has a reason to ban you, because thats the way i see it, plunger setting up a trap to get someone to ban.
Now, i was not on at that time, and neither have i been on in a lot of months, so it may sound totally stupid, but as i said, this is only my way of seeing it after reading the posts on the forum.
//SmirnoFF
Quote from: Smirnoff on 02-06-2010
To add my little comment to the discussion, what i think he meant with unfair is that, imagine someone holding sugar in their hands, and his waving it infront of you.
You want it and after a few minutes you decide to take it, only to find out it was a trap and that he now has a reason to ban you, because thats the way i see it, plunger setting up a trap to get someone to ban.
Now, i was not on at that time, and neither have i been on in a lot of months, so it may sound totally stupid, but as i said, this is only my way of seeing it after reading the posts on the forum.
//SmirnoFF
Dutch wasn't even harming anyone, I hardly see how Dutch sitting in spawn with the name Strelok is asking to be deathmatched.
When I was in iRiS one of the admins did the exact same thing Plunger did. I see nothing wrong with it as it proves that people act differently without admins on and are more prone to breaking the rules.
Quote from: Cutch on 04-06-2010
When I was in iRiS one of the admins did the exact same thing Plunger did. I see nothing wrong with it as it proves that people act differently without admins on and are more prone to breaking the rules.
It's not about no admins being on, It's about tempted to make someone who annoys this shit out of everyone ragequit. "strelok: i have a gun plz?"
Meh, I know this'll just start a flame war as quick as running into a pool of gas while on fire. I have problems with Plunger/Alucard/Layton/wtfever. It mixes with both admin duties and RP. The first bit in the problem is him letting a passive faction like the Eco's raid a mercenary base to take it as their own. I don't remember anywhere that the eco's bring up arms aginst MERCS of all things in the Zone, and openly start conflict.
Another is his nack for holding some sort of grudge. A lot of bullshit stuff has been going on with him involving me. One was the merc base (And no, I'm not mad over losing the base, I'm mad over how uncanon he lets the ecos act), his Monolithian killing a mutant character of mine, and apon recently getting kicked for "Starting OOC fighting.". K, RG comes in and I joke with: "Ah! Kill RG and his 900+ ping!", because yes, 900+ ping is a 'HOLY SHIT!' type of thing, though that obviously is worth a straight kick for OOC fighting when all the other things I see in OOC which IS fighting is met with a slap on the wrist.
I agree with Duran that the ecos are getting more aggressive. Ecos rushed into a bar with guns raised, shooting etc.
Am I missing something here?
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 15-06-2010
Meh, I know this'll just start a flame war as quick as running into a pool of gas while on fire. I have problems with Plunger/Alucard/Layton/wtfever. It mixes with both admin duties and RP. The first bit in the problem is him letting a passive faction like the Eco's raid a mercenary base to take it as their own. I don't remember anywhere that the eco's bring up arms aginst MERCS of all things in the Zone, and openly start conflict.
Another is his nack for holding some sort of grudge. A lot of bullshit stuff has been going on with him involving me. One was the merc base (And no, I'm not mad over losing the base, I'm mad over how uncanon he lets the ecos act), his Monolithian killing a mutant character of mine, and apon recently getting kicked for "Starting OOC fighting.". K, RG comes in and I joke with: "Ah! Kill RG and his 900+ ping!", because yes, 900+ ping is a 'HOLY SHIT!' type of thing, though that obviously is worth a straight kick for OOC fighting when all the other things I see in OOC which IS fighting is met with a slap on the wrist.
Hiring mercs to kill other mercs is not a no no
Quote from: PistolKid on 15-06-2010
I agree with Duran that the ecos are getting more aggressive. Ecos rushed into a bar with guns raised, shooting etc.
Am I missing something here?
I was being mind fucked by a controller, TYVM :(
Don't derail the thread. This is about administration discussion as my first post was.
Alex there is NOTHING wrong with hiring mercs to kill other mercs. I don't know where you got that idea.
And Sphynx isn't a controller.
And stuff has been pruned.
I Dislike Crimzon :saddowns:
Bit of a necro dont you think?^
No, This is.... :3
SO STOP POSTING.....
Nope :3
Locked.
Unlocked - It's a ongoing topic, still serves a purpose of admin critcizm.
If you have nothing useful or contributing to say, dont say anything - Tea Guy
Dont just spam random shit, RG4ORDR
Why Commissar is still an Admin, and why all topics are closed against him.
Discuss
So here's some honest stuff from an honest person; With all respect due, the admins have problems. Wasn't always like this but there are problems here up front and for sure.
Number one is activity.
This is agreed by the larger of the playerbase. We're lucky to see an admin for an hour every second day. I understand you rely on people to post their problems on the forum for you to deal with, but being real, you need an admin in the server. There's people having problems, people needing a rank change, people needing this or that, and all the other stuff. Like how I'm trying to get TT but I can't ever talk to anyone who is capable of giving a rec. Especially at this time, where there's a lot of new players joining who don't know jack shit about RP, Stalker, how to make a name or even a phys desc.
The second one may just be me, but I'm finding bias.
Correct me if I'm wrong but regardless of how the game is supposed to work, I'm finding the admins are going against military and favoring other factions such as freedom. For the sake of RP it should be fixed. Doom will not do anything because he's afraid that he will get in trouble for moving around even. I'm pretty sure he's allowed to get auths for things every now and then when he requests them as are other factions.
Thats my opinion on what could be worked on, and I know I speak for a lot of people when I say it. Except Mili haters will probably disagree with the second part but I'm serious about what I said. Consider it.
QuoteRe: SRP Administration Discussion
« Reply #88 on: October 07, 2010, 08:03:11 PM »
QuoteSo here's some honest stuff from an honest person; With all respect due, the admins have problems. Wasn't always like this but there are problems here up front and for sure.
Number one is activity.
This is agreed by the larger of the playerbase. We're lucky to see an admin for an hour every second day. I understand you rely on people to post their problems on the forum for you to deal with, but being real, you need an admin in the server. There's people having problems, people needing a rank change, people needing this or that, and all the other stuff. Like how I'm trying to get TT but I can't ever talk to anyone who is capable of giving a rec. Especially at this time, where there's a lot of new players joining who don't know jack shit about RP, Stalker, how to make a name or even a phys desc.
The second one may just be me, but I'm finding bias.
Correct me if I'm wrong but regardless of how the game is supposed to work, I'm finding the admins are going against military and favoring other factions such as freedom. For the sake of RP it should be fixed. Doom will not do anything because he's afraid that he will get in trouble for moving around even. I'm pretty sure he's allowed to get auths for things every now and then when he requests them as are other factions.
Thats my opinion on what could be worked on, and I know I speak for a lot of people when I say it. Except Mili haters will probably disagree with the second part but I'm serious about what I said. Consider it.
I am going to hurt you for necroing.
Quote from: Harly on 28-08-2011
So here's some honest stuff from an honest person; With all respect due, the admins have problems. Wasn't always like this but there are problems here up front and for sure.
Number one is activity.
This is agreed by the larger of the playerbase. We're lucky to see an admin for an hour every second day. I understand you rely on people to post their problems on the forum for you to deal with, but being real, you need an admin in the server. There's people having problems, people needing a rank change, people needing this or that, and all the other stuff. Like how I'm trying to get TT but I can't ever talk to anyone who is capable of giving a rec. Especially at this time, where there's a lot of new players joining who don't know jack shit about RP, Stalker, how to make a name or even a phys desc.
The second one may just be me, but I'm finding bias.
Correct me if I'm wrong but regardless of how the game is supposed to work, I'm finding the admins are going against military and favoring other factions such as freedom. For the sake of RP it should be fixed. Doom will not do anything because he's afraid that he will get in trouble for moving around even. I'm pretty sure he's allowed to get auths for things every now and then when he requests them as are other factions.
Thats my opinion on what could be worked on, and I know I speak for a lot of people when I say it. Except Mili haters will probably disagree with the second part but I'm serious about what I said. Consider it.
since the begining of SRP admins have taken sides :P
Quote from: FrostyFrosty on 28-08-2011
I am going to hurt you for necroing.
It's not necroposting if the topic is a valid/important discussion thread (such as a sticky) with a valid post that contributes to the thread.
SRP's admin ranks are pretty thin right now. ThY's on break, Rebel rage quit, Iron has computer problems (and I think Duran does also) so that really just leaves Tom and he just started school again so he's kind of busy. This is always a tricky time for activity because people go back to school/are on vacation. Be patient and the problem will sort itself out.
And admin bias would be easier to avoid if Silver stopped appointing faction heads as admins. For a while last year I was the only admin not in faction and it made making decisions hard because say Military had 2 admins in it and Freedom had none. Needing to arbitrate shit between them was always really fun because naturally the military guys would say "Oh 2 admins say we can PK all of Freedom so it's valid" while common sense (and I) say that's utter bullshit. (And yes things like that did happen. Frequently. Not just between military and freedom, but pretty much between any faction that had admins in it. Which was all of them except loners ironically enough).
congratulations for complaining about admin activity when College/school is starting back up for the most part. Not to mention our numbers are low as fuck. So, couple college and school starting with low admin numbers, you get rare admin activity.
It's funny to watch how people constantly complain because admins are doing TOO MUCH, then it gets to a point where they're complaining admins arn't around enough. The irony, you can cut it with a knife it's so thick.
Quote from: Harly on 28-08-2011
So here's some honest stuff from an honest person; With all respect due, the admins have problems. Wasn't always like this but there are problems here up front and for sure.
Number one is activity.
This is agreed by the larger of the playerbase. We're lucky to see an admin for an hour every second day. I understand you rely on people to post their problems on the forum for you to deal with, but being real, you need an admin in the server. There's people having problems, people needing a rank change, people needing this or that, and all the other stuff. Like how I'm trying to get TT but I can't ever talk to anyone who is capable of giving a rec. Especially at this time, where there's a lot of new players joining who don't know jack shit about RP, Stalker, how to make a name or even a phys desc.
The second one may just be me, but I'm finding bias.
Correct me if I'm wrong but regardless of how the game is supposed to work, I'm finding the admins are going against military and favoring other factions such as freedom. For the sake of RP it should be fixed. Doom will not do anything because he's afraid that he will get in trouble for moving around even. I'm pretty sure he's allowed to get auths for things every now and then when he requests them as are other factions.
Thats my opinion on what could be worked on, and I know I speak for a lot of people when I say it. Except Mili haters will probably disagree with the second part but I'm serious about what I said. Consider it.
Rank changing. . . I think you guys should just put your rank in your physdesc, makes it easier when you guys promote a Jillion people at once. And no one is siding with any factions. . . We watch every faction carefully, plus too there are no admins in any of the factions (If I recall correctly) at the exception of Monolith, who are barely active, also please provide evidence of said bias and who is giving such bias, so that I can handle it :P
As far as admin activity what everyone else has said is pretty much the facts. School/colledge keeps us pretty busy atm since its the very begining of it, Pretty soon I'll be spending more time after school to work on projects and such
Yeah I think we are really fucked on activity admin wise considering the start of schooling and so forth.
I basiclly somewhat minor factioned Monolith to hopefully provide to Military and Duty.
Will be back on the 31st currently in cuba on a very shitty internet connection sighhhhhh
Although I do understand that Admins also have lives and aren't on their computers 24/7 however, the admin activity is a problem. The only admin I see on is Tom sometimes and Duran once a day for alittle bit. The trader forums also need an admin or Tom to start bringing traders on. Traders are pretty fucking scarce. Usually the trader is either Pistolkid's Dutier since people keep asking in ooc where the trader is and one other trader that sets up in Freedom base. Also what paintheck said. A main factor that caused admins to hate each other is silver appointing admins as leaders. However, some people are just jack asses and will always get hate.
The main point is, admins. Start getting on. I don't care if it is only for a few minutes but we need atleast one admin on to atleast assure the minges that someone is always watching.
I'd love to donate some of my free time being an admin.
But I can only play on Server 2. Server 1 and FORP just keep crashing on me.
If I was ever given the chance to be an admin for SRP, sure, I'd take it because I like helping people crap, and its annoying as hell when people start derping when admins aren't on >_>
Do not derail this thread with your attempts to get trial operator status on the HGN SRP server. This is the only warning that will be issued.
Although I personally think that Frosty is too young and immature to be an Admin, I think he raises a good point. We need some new admins. I think it is time that the admins get together and start making a list of people who seem fit for Adminship.
It has already been done recently. You don't know what we've done behind the scenes.
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 28-08-2011
Do not derail this thread with your attempts to get trial operator status on the HGN SRP server. This is the only warning that will be issued.
I don't know if your directing this to me, but I'm already an admin for FORP. Which is what I was sorta refering to. But I can't play due to an annoying issue.
I can't join SRP server 1 or FORP. So. Any solutions would help.
Quote from: Khorn on 28-08-2011
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 28-08-2011
Do not derail this thread with your attempts to get trial operator status on the HGN SRP server. This is the only warning that will be issued.
I don't know if your directing this to me, but I'm already an admin for FORP. Which is what I was sorta refering to. But I can't play due to an annoying issue.
I can't join SRP server 1 or FORP. So. Any solutions would help.
Nah bro he's directing it at FrostyFrosty cause he was all like "Omg If I got admin I'd be super fly" and. . . yeah. . .
I never actually complain about anything publicly but since I've already stumbled upon this thread I might as well as write a small paragraph on the current problems(not all of them, as that will take more than decade to document every issue here) that are lying in SRP at this moment.
The very first problem in this admin team is that it usually does not seem to care about anything except themselves and that means the admins don't have any wish to make SRP or the community itself any better, in a sense that nobody will volunteer to contribute something, and if they do, it often counts as a 'favor' done for the players which is an unacceptable attitude, frankly. Actually on a more closer observation, you can find that the punishments are handed out with most absolute shortsightedness. The statement might seem like a blatant exaggeration, but it hardly is if you will care to listen to both sides and try to understand BOTH of them, not the one that you like the most because of any reason ( mostly it's just elitism ), however it doesn't always count for every case, I'm just speaking from my experience here. I won't name anyone yet, but it should be obvious for anyone that experienced this as well.
QuoteThe very first problem in this admin team is that it usually does not seem to care about anything except themselves
First off all, this is untrue in so many ways, Just because you don't see something doesn't mean it doesn't happen, I.E Safeboxes are needed myself unless i am doing something important will more then gladly hop on to place a few for the players if only they ask, And we never ask for anything in return.
Quotein a sense that nobody will volunteer to contribute something, and if they do, it often counts as a 'favor' done for the players which is an unacceptable attitude
As well Alot of the admins have been running rather large events recently to help advance the story line in which place major events are taking, I fail to see how that is an admin doing anything for themselves what so ever. If something stupid happens when we are on the server we more often then not go out of the way to help resolve the problems.
Quotefrankly. Actually on a more closer observation, you can find that the punishments are handed out with most absolute shortsightedness.
Punishments are short sighted? How do you get off on this claim, You were banned for making a direct attack on another member, Not mentioning names, But by going after them and calling them a furry for no reason what so every it was entirely unprovoked, Now if this is also reffering to the situation where Vortigoat called you a "FuckTard" I looked into this for at least half an hour with your meager claims and i talked to you and to Vortigoat, He was provoked by you calling him a power gamer, Now You were unhappy with my ruling in which i gave him a verbal warning to not do it again so you took it to Yorty, I know this because i talked to Yorty, I also told him i dealt with it AND before you came to me you took it to Pistol kid who also took no further action on it as it was not required how ever you kept pushing to have him banned for something you provoked him to say.
Quoteand that means the admins don't have any wish to make SRP or the community itself any better,
Now you are over stepping your limits, Where do YOU get off saying anything like this i've NEVER seen ANYTHING productive come from you aiding in the SRP server, Right now the admins are planning and carrying out an extensive reworking of the server .
Now for the final statement from me, You of everyone, Decide to say this. The person who never plays for RP, But plays for Gear, Rushes ahead in all the events hes in just to get gear, You paycheck farm, Caught on several occasions, But to prevent us from having proof of it you binned "Disconnect" To a key so you can just D/C to prevent an admin from getting credible evidence on you.
Quote from: Jake on 25-01-2012
I never actually complain about anything publicly but since I've already stumbled upon this thread I might as well as write a small paragraph on the current problems(not all of them, as that will take more than decade to document every issue here) that are lying in SRP at this moment.
The very first problem in this admin team is that it usually does not seem to care about anything except themselves and that means the admins don't have any wish to make SRP or the community itself any better, in a sense that nobody will volunteer to contribute something, and if they do, it often counts as a 'favor' done for the players which is an unacceptable attitude, frankly. Actually on a more closer observation, you can find that the punishments are handed out with most absolute shortsightedness. The statement might seem like a blatant exaggeration, but it hardly is if you will care to listen to both sides and try to understand BOTH of them, not the one that you like the most because of any reason ( mostly it's just elitism ), however it doesn't always count for every case, I'm just speaking from my experience here. I won't name anyone yet, but it should be obvious for anyone that experienced this as well.
Quote from: Goose on 25-01-2012
QuoteThe very first problem in this admin team is that it usually does not seem to care about anything except themselves
First off all, this is untrue in so many ways, Just because you don't see something doesn't mean it doesn't happen, I.E Safeboxes are needed myself unless i am doing something important will more then gladly hop on to place a few for the players if only they ask, And we never ask for anything in return.
Quotein a sense that nobody will volunteer to contribute something, and if they do, it often counts as a 'favor' done for the players which is an unacceptable attitude
As well Alot of the admins have been running rather large events recently to help advance the story line in which place major events are taking, I fail to see how that is an admin doing anything for themselves what so ever. If something stupid happens when we are on the server we more often then not go out of the way to help resolve the problems.
Quotefrankly. Actually on a more closer observation, you can find that the punishments are handed out with most absolute shortsightedness.
Punishments are short sighted? How do you get off on this claim, You were banned for making a direct attack on another member, Not mentioning names, But by going after them and calling them a furry for no reason what so every it was entirely unprovoked, Now if this is also reffering to the situation where Vortigoat called you a "FuckTard" I looked into this for at least half an hour with your meager claims and i talked to you and to Vortigoat, He was provoked by you calling him a power gamer, Now You were unhappy with my ruling in which i gave him a verbal warning to not do it again so you took it to Yorty, I know this because i talked to Yorty, I also told him i dealt with it AND before you came to me you took it to Pistol kid who also took no further action on it as it was not required how ever you kept pushing to have him banned for something you provoked him to say.
Quoteand that means the admins don't have any wish to make SRP or the community itself any better,
Now you are over stepping your limits, Where do YOU get off saying anything like this i've NEVER seen ANYTHING productive come from you aiding in the SRP server, Right now the admins are planning and carrying out an extensive reworking of the server .
Now for the final statement from me, You of everyone, Decide to say this. The person who never plays for RP, But plays for Gear, Rushes ahead in all the events hes in just to get gear, You paycheck farm, Caught on several occasions, But to prevent us from having proof of it you binned "Disconnect" To a key so you can just D/C to prevent an admin from getting credible evidence on you.
You really just want to have Jake banned, don't you?
1). I agree with Goose on this, Admins place them when they have time.
2). I agree with Jake, mainly because I have seen alot of laziness, including my own, however I'm saying this regarding most of the playerbase who do things for 'favors' I haven't really seen an admin demand a 'Favor' so for the Other part, I also agree with Goose.
3). Banned for saying "Furry" what. Banned for saying "FuckTard" also what. I have nothing to say on that.
4). Where are the reform plans? As I see none.
The reform plans are posted in the arp hidden boards as there is -Alot- of stuff in progress and changes/updates to what we have proposed and are working on
Just one question about the safeboxes - admins are saying that they will place it for when they have time, I am alright with that.
But why aren't the safeboxes simply static, like they used to be before?I mean they just were on some places and couldn't be removed by crashes or anything.
And to admins, I guess some TO's should be promoted.
Not a complaint, just saying, this is ducussion not complaints.
One more thing, Commisar is gone for some time now...so yeah
Sv's are required to static props and as far as I know thy hasn't gotten around to it yet so wait out on that.
Quote from: Goose on 25-01-2012
Now you are over stepping your limits, Where do YOU get off saying anything like this i've NEVER seen ANYTHING productive come from you aiding in the SRP server, Right now the admins are planning and carrying out an extensive reworking of the server .
Now for the final statement from me, You of everyone, Decide to say this. The person who never plays for RP, But plays for Gear, Rushes ahead in all the events hes in just to get gear, You paycheck farm, Caught on several occasions, But to prevent us from having proof of it you binned "Disconnect" To a key so you can just D/C to prevent an admin from getting credible evidence on you.
This actually proves my point of the general maturity(and their view on things) of the administration(which I excluded from my brief post because it would cause a way more radical reaction) and how it handles and any complaints directed towards them. Simply because most of what you said is based solely on your own opinion and I consider the fact that you're You I won't take what you said really seriously, because you've got absolutely nothing to back up what you said about me. You don't actually know me, you never roleplayed with me nor have our conversations had went deeper than a petty insult at the end of them. You made a completely empty statement about me based on what you heard or assumed, congratulations.
And really, you're going to call me out for calling somebody a 'furry', when he ACTUALLY HE IS ONE? I didn't know I've committed a crime of such high level of importance, may I ask for your forgiveness now.
Besides, you're saying that making safeboxes(also being the only thing you can tell about contribution?) require a hell lot of effort, or something? I honestly don't see how much effort does it take to write the command '/safeboxadd' and then making it static by aiming at it and typing '/addmapentity'/'/setmapentity'. I've been the supervisor of FRP and know pretty well how much time does something take and I can admit that this takes almost none, and this part isn't directly pointed at Goose.
Okay dipshit when did I say it was hard it was you making the fucking comment I will deal with complaints about me with the person but when you attack the admin team as a hole an are a general douche on the server that no one wants to help no that is not going I slide.
Making safe boxes is fuxking simple and I do it all the time boxes can only be placed by SA's and up majorit of the admin team consists of TO's now staticing I can't do because an SV is required that is something only thy can do and you I. E Steven and the reworking of SRP and knife cz with the safe boxes, now if you have a valid complaint because the entire admin team won't be fired for your claims. I'd like to see that happen.speaking about a maturity is funny comming from a blatant troll.
If you are going to make a post make it constructive, or an actual question, all I've seen from your posts are whining. I. E Steven and the reworking of SRP and knife cz with the safe boxes, now if you have a valid complaint because the entire admin team won't be fired for your claims. I'd like to see that happen.
-Snip-
Quote from: Goose on 26-01-2012
Okay dipshit when did I say it was hard it was you making the fucking comment I will deal with complaints about me with the person but when you attack the admin team as a hole an are a general douche on the server that no one wants to help no that is not going I slide.
Making safe boxes is fuxking simple and I do it all the time boxes can only be placed by SA's and up majorit of the admin team consists of TO's now staticing I can't do because an SV is required that is something only thy can do and you I. E Steven and the reworking of SRP and knife cz with the safe boxes, now if you have a valid complaint because the entire admin team won't be fired for your claims. I'd like to see that happen.speaking about a maturity is funny comming from a blatant troll.
If you are going to make a post make it constructive, or an actual question, all I've seen from your posts are whining. I. E Steven and the reworking of SRP and knife cz with the safe boxes, now if you have a valid complaint because the entire admin team won't be fired for your claims. I'd like to see that happen.
Now, um...
I don't know where do you get that I want everybody in the admin team fired? I don't hate anyone nor do I hold negative emotions against somebody on the internet. I'm just trying to point out mistakes that the administration team had made, in my opinion, and this is the thread where I can and want to state it. I really don't understand why do you think I'm trying to make a personal attack against every administrator of SRP on forums. I really suggest you to read my posts that I made here earlier this day and maybe catch some advice from them.
By the way, I honestly don't know whether you have said anything on this thread except the insults that were targeted at me, but believe it or not, they tell a lot more about the administration than every post combined here. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not saying that every admin is acting like him, but rather the tolerance and the static attitude of Silver on these matters.
Trolls trolling trolls trolls trolls.
Also Goose stop flaming. It's very hard for people to take you seriously when every response begins with "Listen up dipshit".
Quote from: Goose on 26-01-2012
Sv's are required to static props and as far as I know thy hasn't gotten around to it yet so wait out on that.
You can't static safeboxes, their classed as non physical entities according to the script. I've tried my best.
Edit; ok jake told me how to do it ill try when im next on
Quote from: ThY on 26-01-2012
Quote from: Goose on 26-01-2012
Sv's are required to static props and as far as I know thy hasn't gotten around to it yet so wait out on that.
You can't static safeboxes, their classed as non physical entities according to the script. I've tried my best.
Worked fine on Fallout RP and Server 2, surely it also will work on S1.
Quote from: ThY on 26-01-2012
Edit; ok jake told me how to do it ill try when im next on
Usually when admins make events they're either A) Not accessible to people without any UBRL33T suit and weapons because "It's dangerous and its filled with psy and gases and other supernatural shit that require a SEVA/Exoskeleton+Groza/SVD to survive." (The usual case.) or B) Its accessible to everyone but then its made so hard that Rookies almost ALWAYS die and only the l33t exo skeleton clad über stalkers survive. Usually by hanging behind afraid to lose their gear...
My point is that admins need to make the events they make more rookie friendly SOMETIMES, yes there can be hard ones of course. Don't take this wrong. Having events is awesome but please make some Rookie friendly events as well. (Go scout this area. Spawn a couple of Zombies. Reward them.) And I know admins are busy but still.... And if you're making them then excuse me but I've never seen any. (Timezones go figure.)
Quote from: Gonztah on 26-01-2012
Usually when admins make events they're either A) Not accessible to people without any UBRL33T suit and weapons because "It's dangerous and its filled with psy and gases and other supernatural shit that require a SEVA/Exoskeleton+Groza/SVD to survive." (The usual case.) or B) Its accessible to everyone but then its made so hard that Rookies almost ALWAYS die and only the l33t exo skeleton clad über stalkers survive. Usually by hanging behind afraid to lose their gear...
My point is that admins need to make the events they make more rookie friendly SOMETIMES, yes there can be hard ones of course. Don't take this wrong. Having events is awesome but please make some Rookie friendly events as well. (Go scout this area. Spawn a couple of Zombies. Reward them.) And I know admins are busy but still.... And if you're making them then excuse me but I've never seen any. (Timezones go figure.)
I think I know which event you are talking about; But to be fair, all of the people whom did go were preparing for something like this for a long while. Not to mention, anyone who pretty much spoke with the guy who was going with them could have easily prepared themselves by buying protective gear from the trader at the time. Now yes, the mission was dangerous and /yes/ people took the more well-armed stalkers but only mainly for the reason that they were more experienced and were more willing to go than any other stalker at the time. Another note I'd like to point out is that this event occurred
three times. So while I agree that things are a little bit of collum A and collum B. .
I believe that events are supposed to be challenging. The Zone/SRP isn't an action movie where everyone survives all the ordeals they go through; People die daily and you've got to have the survival skills to live there in order to make it from day to day. My suggestion is to show caution in events and don't go headlong into things; I don't think the problem here is that it's the 'uber stalkers' moreas it's the problem that people want to rush through things in order to become the best and 'win' SRP.
I do fully agree that there should be /some/ rookie friendly jobs but that isn't the admin's fault entirely seeing as the traders on the server are responsible for setting up missions for fellow stalkers instead of giving ammo and weapons and then buggering off. While I agree with some things; I can't bring myself to understand why this is entirely the admins' fault. Players just like to sit around and wait for things to happen when there's plenty of things to do between each-other; That's what I like so much about SRP. And timezones can be a problem, too.
The only real advice I can give here is to just actually interact with stalkers and travel in groups..RP; Do some passive and look for stashes. There's more to SRP than events like "There are suddenly twenty bandits storming *insert exciting place!*". I find things more enjoyable when it involves the players and the development of their characters. (Mind you I'm not saying you don't do this already. This is just some friendly advice so please don't bite my head off)
TL;DR
I agree with what you've said in many aspects but you'd enjoy SRP more if you Interacted with other players and you can find a way to enjoy your time on SRP with things other than events.
This drama is silly.