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Title: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Zarrick on 22-09-2009
The PK is a 7.62 mm general purpose machine gun designed in the Soviet Union and currently in production in Russia. The PK machine gun was introduced in the 1960s and replaced the SGM and RPD machine guns in Soviet service. The PK machine gun can be used as a light anti-aircraft weapon when it is put on an AA mount. One feature typical of Soviet machine guns is that the standard model feeds from the right and ejects its spent cases via an ejection port on the left side of the weapon, as opposed to the right side ejection port seen in most Western machine guns.

http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=72848 (http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=72848)

For past flaming, discussion or anything else, see here: http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/index.php?topic=3686.0 (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/index.php?topic=3686.0)

I think its a good idea, if it was to be put in place Application to use one would be a must IMO, imagine a loner running around with a PKM, it'd look like DarkRP, it wouldnt be cannon, and they'd be able to pew pew mostly anything in there way untill they ran out of ammo.
Title: Re: RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: asoldier290 on 22-09-2009
I still think it would be a bad idea to unleash such massive firepower on the server. In the Stalker Cannon i never saw a Massive Noobcannon unless your using the Desert eagle that uses VSS vintores sniper rounds.
Title: Re: RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Zarrick on 22-09-2009
Play Clear Sky
Title: Re: RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: asoldier290 on 22-09-2009
Last i checked this was Stalker SoC RP not Clear Sky, otherwise id be running around playing as the Super noob Marsh stalker who can jump a million feet in the air.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Zarrick on 22-09-2009
No no, this is STALKER RP, its not SoC or Clear Sky, so were back to HL2 models now I guess =D?

a PKm would make sense, its a russian made and its seen in Clear Sky wielded by Exo suiters and others.

This is an RP BASED off the Stalker games.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: asoldier290 on 22-09-2009
True it is but think of it this way; your guarding a checkpoint and all of a sudden you get mansacked by some minge with a shitty ass gun, he jacks your PKM and then BAM ultimate noob cannon in the hands of a complete idiot. if you want to RP a turret wielding hero of the zone why not just become a militarized stalker and your nickname should be master chief with two Warthog vulcans strapped to your arms.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Zarrick on 22-09-2009
The awnser: A gun, nah, an Exo.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: asoldier290 on 22-09-2009
Exo dont matter, if someone comes up and suprises you without you thinking you can die pretty easy. a Minge came on and killed someone got a Shitty AKm and killed a master bandit (SVD) Freedom Exo (LR 300) and a Duty Exo (Weapon Unknown) im just saying that you cant imagine the backlash if you got killed and your PKM was the cause of the whole server turning into a DM fest while a noobcheuck runs around with a 150 clip gun killing anything that even tryed to throw a /ar out there.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Lucidius on 22-09-2009
RPK-74 isn't 7.62mm, it's the same method the AK-47 base design oes through to turn into an RPK, exept smaller calibre and such.

Make it Exosuit wield-able only?

Thoroughly agreed though, it makes sense and what not. Some one requested this somewhere else but the thread mysteriously disappeared.

Here's a better idea though. (2 actually)

If you die with it out, it deletes instead of falling.

Or you have it so, Instead of having just an RPK weapon that you buy, make it an adaption kit that you use when you have an AK-74 Drawn. It'll take a minute or two to convert but when done, it'll just add a drum maazine and a longer hevier barrel. When you die, it reverts into a normal AK-74.

Want to go a step further, make the kits e used for factions only or something.

Edit: Just checked world.guns.ru, the RPK-74 only has a box mag of 45 rounds, so it's kinda pointless to add all this fuss to an AK-74 with 15 more rounds, and a longer barrel.

Edit:
Quote from: asoldier290
In the Stalker Cannon i never saw a Massive Noobcannon
CS had a PKM, it was heavy as fuck, you couldn't sprint and your mouse sensitivity got super fucked when you used it, and also you couldn't really iron sight it (if i remember right).
Also what about the RPG-7? lol.

ONce you guys figure out how to keep it from being 'minged' (waht ever the fuck that means), I support said support platform weapon because, if your rule is shoot too miss, then suppressive fire from an LMG/SAW would be pretty effective.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Zarrick on 22-09-2009
The FN2000 cant be dropped for this reason, a PKM shouldnt be able to be dropped anyway. thats why I said you should need admin permission or you have to apply for it.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: PimpMasterJ on 28-09-2009
Alright basically the FN2000 (Former user of it) Deletes upon death, nor can it be dropped, And only admins can spawn it and traders. So if you just give the PKM the same lua as the FN2000 Minges wont be able to get to it.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Torch on 28-09-2009
To be honest, this would be cool if we had a mounted weapon tool for faction bases (And maybe cut down on the LOLRAIDs) but a weapon you can carry around, exosuit or not would be overpowered.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Lucidius on 28-09-2009
Quote from: Torch on 28-09-2009
To be honest, this would be cool if we had a mounted weapon tool for faction bases (And maybe cut down on the LOLRAIDs) but a weapon you can carry around, exosuit or not would be overpowered.

Or you can do it like I set my HMG's up on SecondButts/Like Day of Defeat Source.

The Deployed MG would obviously be more benefitial to use but if one was to, go out on a den clearing, they'de use a heavier weapon. With the MG you'de want it to be deployable, in the sense you'de have to wait about 3.5 seconds (that's what I had mine set too, good delay for not using it offensivly, in the sense of jumping out behind cover, deploying in mid air and then laying down sick fire)

SAW's arn't THAT much harder then using an AR though.

Should give modofied weapons out aswell, like Storming Abakan and such.

Quote from: Self
Edit: Just checked world.guns.ru, the RPK-74 only has a box mag of 45 rounds, so it's kinda pointless to add all this fuss to an AK-74 with 15 more rounds, and a longer barrel.

RPK-74 would be pointless.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Crimzon_Reaper on 29-09-2009
Yeah, dudes. The PKM is actually in Stalker. But as with female models, it wasn't implemented as intended.

Now, onto the trusts department.
Make it more restricted than the F2000. Have an actual roster for it, which requires a good reputation and a good reason to be added to. Solves the RNG minge problem.

Could make it less accurate when moving, more accurate when standing, and most accurate when crouching (Or implement a "Set up" feature)



. . .  Also, there -is- a mountable turret stool. Loved it.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Tunddruff on 09-10-2009
http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/282/8/2/Screen_shot_3_by_Tunddruff.jpg (http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/282/8/2/Screen_shot_3_by_Tunddruff.jpg)

Look under weapons. There are two versions. Mounted and not mounted. Freedom WILL have a mounted gun when I am done this project
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 09-10-2009
FUCK YEA WIN^
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Radek on 09-10-2009
Quote from: Tunddruff on 09-10-2009
http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/282/8/2/Screen_shot_3_by_Tunddruff.jpg (http://fc00.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/282/8/2/Screen_shot_3_by_Tunddruff.jpg)

Look under weapons. There are two versions. Mounted and not mounted. Freedom WILL have a mounted gun when I am done this project
Military will also have one.. We use em in the game so why not here :P Our Checkpoint will be A Frikin Fort.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Tunddruff on 09-10-2009
heh. Duty doesnt get one. They are to crazy already
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 10-10-2009
Im fine with mili having one as long as they dont put it out front of they'er out post balsting us as we come out of S1.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Zarrick on 10-10-2009
Duty have them ._. I've seen about three Dutyers in Clear Sky with one.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 10-10-2009
T_T NOOOO I HATE DUTY THEY"RE FAGS T_T no offense zarrick but you do randomly go rambo by your self alot ....
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Crimzon_Reaper on 10-10-2009
No offense, but Duty is in the shitter right now.

We have inactives left right and center, allowing us only roughly three active troops. ICly, these numbers would be much greater. Hope to fix this problem later . . .

. . . You can either assume there are ICly more, or assume that the Duty are experienced combatants.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 10-10-2009
lol either is good :P
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Tunddruff on 10-10-2009
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Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Locke on 10-10-2009
Quote from: Tunddruff on 10-10-2009
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Who's this misty chick in your MSN bar
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 10-10-2009
O.o locke lol. Nice job Tund
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Tunddruff on 10-10-2009
Misty = My girl friend. She is making me mad today she's all like "LETS GO TO THE ROCKTEN FAIR" And im all like "I dont like fairs" then she's like "LETS GO TO THE ROCKTEN FAIR"

Kinda dumb if you ask me.

BACK TO MODELING
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Plunger on 10-10-2009
Quote from: Tunddruff on 10-10-2009
Misty = My girl friend. She is making me mad today she's all like "LETS GO TO THE ROCKTEN FAIR" And im all like "I dont like fairs" then she's like "LETS GO TO THE ROCKTEN FAIR"

Kinda dumb if you ask me.

BACK TO MODELING
You can quote me.

"Quit with the bitchin' get back in the kitchin'"
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: KingArthur on 10-10-2009
Orgasmiccc... We need the CS sound of mili shouting "stalker sighted open fire" if we get the mounted gun lol
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 11-10-2009
Thats the gun that kept blowing me away D: lol i hated that part could never get past with out nearly dieing...
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Crimzon_Reaper on 11-10-2009
Military is already swarming with members, so they don't need extra armour, or weapons.

Freedom . . . Alright, there are a few of 'em, but they suck at combat. The turret will help 'em along.

Duty . . . We don't need no stinkin' turrets . . . Although I wouldn't mind giving one to an Exo.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 11-10-2009
It's mounted not portable ....
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Tunddruff on 17-10-2009
Quote from: Tunddruff on 15-10-2009

October 17

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I still need to fix the texture on the guns, and add the second backpack texture... Its done, just dont feel like coping it...
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 17-10-2009
O.o TUND FTW
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: darthdeath on 21-10-2009
badass gun =
my
support
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Lucidius on 21-10-2009
FUCKING LOCK THIS THREAD, it's been derailed for 2 pages FFS.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: SigismunT on 25-10-2009
RPK will be unbalanced cuz if its too cheap every1 will buy them, if too expensive ur RPK disappear if you die.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 25-10-2009
Please this was a dead thread dont revive and the RPK is going to be mounted so only factions/factionleaders can use or say who uses them. thats if it gets added to the server anyway
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Lucidius on 25-10-2009
PKM would b emounted.

fucking _read_ the thread.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Madcombat on 31-10-2009
Christ I facepalmed so hard when reading this..
Its Cannon, it was in the game.
If a Noob comes DM'ing with it, they get BANNED
If they Roleplay Correctly they do not.
If this is to be used the players should understand how heavy this is aswell as recoil.
I say ADD IT If its Cannon have it, I also seriously a Noob will suvive long enough on the server to get this.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Plunger on 31-10-2009
Well, If an admins not on a noob could just press "E" and it'd start a big DM fight.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Steel on 31-10-2009
Yer its true, maybe it could be base mounted?
But the only problem is changing territory, or possibly add a bipod system, where it has to be deployed before use? :S
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Bagelz on 31-10-2009
Quote from: Plunger on 31-10-2009
Well, If an admins not on a noob could just press "E" and it'd start a big DM fight.

If that's the case, then that's too bad. If we want new things, we need to deal with the things it brings. *LOL RHIEM*

We either deal with it, or we don't get it at all. It could be base mounted for sure, though.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Lucidius on 01-11-2009
Quote from: The Jackal on 31-10-2009
Yer its true, maybe it could be base mounted?
But the only problem is changing territory, or possibly add a bipod system, where it has to be deployed before use? :S

Read, the, thead.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Madcombat on 01-11-2009
Listen, It should be Base mounted only for all factions, TT Not needed, you buy it from a trader, but this eqipment is only reserved for Factions, doing this is more clever then a man in a exo Suit walking around with a big ass Light Machine Gun, just have it mounted and set up able.

Example:
Setting ambushes up.
Base Defence.

Bad Examples:
Patroling
Free Roaming

This type of equipment is made to supress and defend a area, not to attack.
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Goose on 01-11-2009
Okay well madcombat no offense but you just stated everything that has been said .... i think ... any way yea thats about it to sum it up hes got it ^^
Title: Re: [ Suggestion ] RPK-74 Machine Gun
Post by: Lucidius on 01-11-2009
Lock this thread.

You are all fucking _retarded_