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We have recently had a few issues in HGN regarding our administration and playerbase. It's not often we have admin meetings as things are generally running smoothly however we have hit that olde bump in the road and we would like to keep our playerbase in check. There are several things i want to say in this topic, these are;
- Admin overhaul
- Dug Issue
- Crussaria Update
Admin overhaulWe are doing an overhaul of our srp administration which has not happened in some time, i considered doing a wipe an restarting from scratch however it's an easier motive to just edit the lineup.
SV - DuranBlackRaven (Trial Basis)
SV - Rebel (Trial Basis)
SV - Commisar - Demotion from SR (Further demotion applies to activeness)
SA - Royz (Probably the most inactive member of the team but still with us)
Alex\Predu are being removed from admin due to being inactive\Not Fit unless Predu can show motivation to continue his trial.
Dug is awaiting a further discussion on his situation and is being given leeway on the basis of being a long standing member at HGN.
To Note: We are now looking for new potential admins who have been long-standing members at HGN to join our srp admin team.
The Dug IssueDug was given moderation of the character boards yesterday and used his power today to authorize a pk by doomburger who has been away for several months now, to pk rebel's military leader character. This was all staged and dug stated to me that he did this to take "heat" off of stone who has a bounty. This however was totally out of order and abuse of his power to which commisar who was the SR tried to talk to Dug after this happened to which dug ignored any advice or instruction and refused to explain why he did it to commisar.
Instead Dug went straight to me and targeted commisar while doing his best to avoid the situation and problem he caused with the pk. By doing this i tried to talk to him and make him explain himself and make him see fault however Dug remained ignorant and then i said he would receive a demotion if he kept targeting commisar and did not conform and confront the situation at hand, to which he replied that he's leaving and bringing people with him.
This is a sad day when an admin does this, from what he explained this was more planned than a coincidence. I tried to make him see sense, being a long standing member and having admin for around a year now however dug was intent on sticking to a deal where he will only stay if Commisar is removed from admin. To which i called an admin meeting to talk about the issue however in the end all the admins agreed that commisar, although inactive and has had a rough reputation for along time is innocent and dug was the one at fault.
It's Dugs choice to leave, he's not being banned and i would advise anyone wanting to follow him to think twice at being a sheep. He's leaving because he didn't like another admin and wanted to force my hand to remove him and was flagged up because of the pk stunt he pulled. So if he's still going then, bye dug, overall it's his choice and abuse is not tolerated in the admin team.
Crussaria UpdateI have been continuing work on Crussaria recently and i am hoping to get a early alpha up again in the next few days. It will be a closed alpha and only members who wear HGN tags are likely to be considered to test it. Alot of things are still to be done script wise and everyone is expected to avoid powergaming careers\characters\situations and just roleplay as villagers until such time things change. Features like magic and such will be added overtime and will be controlled through the script.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JdNpj7Emn4k&autoplay=1
First Post!
umad?
Quote from: Poopship on 06-07-2011
First Post!
umad?
Unnecessary nor wanted. As for the thread, sooner Crussaria is done the better. Keep it up Silveh.
Quote from: OBrian on 06-07-2011
Quote from: Poopship on 06-07-2011
First Post!
umad?
Unnecessary nor wanted. As for the thread, sooner Crussaria is done the better. Keep it up Silveh.
Poopship if I still was in charge of forum moderation I'd give you a ban for spam.
I agree with Crussaria. W00t.
Crussaria Ftw folks.
Crussaria looks and sounds good, so I hope its good :3
Quote from: Poopship on 06-07-2011
First Post!
umad?
This isn't the GVC poopship, this is network notifications. Your not funny for posting that, and this isn't the GVC. I don't get how you haven't been banned for spamming yet.
P.S Can't wait till Crussaria finishes.
It'd be interesting to see Crussaria. Also, amazed I'm still even on the admin team.
Hope the alpha is amazing as I hope <3
Quote from: darkzerxx on 06-07-2011
Hope the alpha is amazing as I hope <3
This will be the second time it'll be in alpha actually. The first "Alpha" was really just a basic nexus script with varied custom models and props. It was GREAT role-play but it was unacceptable to Silvers standards script-wise to be used more.
I know I haven't really been there for you recently LE but I hope everything turns out well with Crussaria. I'll try and help in some way even though I'm prob not your frontman for that anymore haha.
Yeah Cutch be kind of nice to have you on I liked being your Squire and knight buddy, Plus you had somewhat of a important role on server.
I have been forgotten once more, :-(. this is not the first, nor second time someone i have been training outranks me. But congratulations on the promotions, gents! Excluding nitro that is.
Crussaria is looking good, Ill admit, Im excited. The roleplay was excellent! Im glad its top, or near top priority. I am sad to hear about dug, very sad. I hope he wont leave.
I seriously dont see why should be Duran SV,since he is pretty inactive on server now.
I agree with Rebel,he is active-he helps.
Also,why dont you just make ThY SV?
Quote from: knife_cz on 07-07-2011
I seriously dont see why should be Duran SV,since he is pretty inactive on server now.
I agree with Rebel,he is active-he helps.
Also,why dont you just make ThY SV?
I have not had a chance to talk to him yet. He's been away for several days.
Yea, I
+support ThY For being SV
Quote from: GoKiller on 07-07-2011
Yea, I
+support ThY For being SV
I feel that "Thy" is a active member aswell and should have the chance to trial for SV. As Exile said "He doesnt fully understand situations yet.
"He's not on when I am so he's inactive." I really hate that excuse. I'm on when most of you people are not, when most admins are not on, actually. So stop using the fact we're in different timezones to call my activity.
"lol +supporting is how we get what we want"
it doesn't work that way, kiddies
Congratulations to everyone.
Congrats to the admin team members. Not use to seeing that many SV's, but they're well earned in any case. Thy, I understand how you may feel, but a specific rank of admin doesn't change the rules that'll still be enforced, so you just keep doing a good job like you have been.
On a second note, I am still looking forward to Crussaria, hope to see a potential test of it again in the near future.
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 07-07-2011
"He's not on when I am so he's inactive." I really hate that excuse. I'm on when most of you people are not, when most admins are not on, actually. So stop using the fact we're in different timezones to call my activity.
Trust me, I know how you feel about that..
Duran is very active I see him all the time. He's usually on later than most of you all. Knife your timezone and his don't match.for example Dug is like 8 hours ahead of me so I never saw him but that doesn't mean he was inactive.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 08-07-2011
Duran is very active I see him all the time. He's usually on later than most of you all. Knife your timezone and his don't match.for example Dug is like 8 hours ahead of me so I never saw him but that doesn't mean he was inactive.
Garry's Mod
8.5 hrs last two weeks / 2294.9 hrs on record
That is alittle bit troublesome. But i am sure Duran has been busy.
I stay on until the map crashes me twice then I'm done for the day, LE. If you'd like to see me on more switch to a map that doesn't assrape my computer. Because I don't exactly like reconnecting three times just for an hour of gameplay.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 08-07-2011
Duran is very active I see him all the time. He's usually on later than most of you all. Knife your timezone and his don't match.for example Dug is like 8 hours ahead of me so I never saw him but that doesn't mean he was inactive.
I wouldnt say that,but when I was playing like..5 months ago,I seen Duran alot of times on server-while was my time and my timezone,thats why I said that.
Also,about the map-most of people voted for srp_redemption in that vote on forums.And it is supposed to be on server,why are we on occult anyway?
Here is a recent conversation between pictowolf and dark scar\Dug. I have been in several conversations myself, however now i truly believe dug had this planned for some time and has said he planned on trying to reinstate doomburger and pk rebel several months ago out of pure spite for rebel and his character and also claimed he accepted the pk on the grounds that it would take heat away from "stone" due to his 300k bounty. So this whole thing was not just a character issue, but a personal issue which is abuse.
http://pastebin.com/cHFse7ZK (http://pastebin.com/cHFse7ZK)
It appears by what is said here that Dug tried to frame Duran. Duran was as a SA responsible for several global management forums and was allowed to approve applications, however when it came down to authorizations SV's had the final say. As shown in this chat he is using this information to entice some of our members into believing there is some kind of conspiracy in the admin team or something along those lines. However this further proves Dugs motives as a malicious, planned exploit of HGN from a high respected position in our admin team. Dug received moderation not one day before this incident and abused his powers in doing so. He is hereby banned from HGN.
Tbh, there should be a wipe of the whole srp admin team so there can be a fresh start
And then who would be the admins Frosty? Most of the admin team is more than competent and most of the newer players I know of are certainly not fit to be admins. An admin wipe would most likely lead to the same people getting admin again.
Just loook at 2 of the newer applicants, 2 people applied for admin. And now are banned for causing havok.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 08-07-2011
And then who would be the admins Frosty? Most of the admin team is more than competent and most of the newer players I know of are certainly not fit to be admins. An admin wipe would most likely lead to the same people getting admin again.
Words. Mouth. Out of.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 08-07-2011
And then who would be the admins Frosty? Most of the admin team is more than competent and most of the newer players I know of are certainly not fit to be admins. An admin wipe would most likely lead to the same people getting admin again.
. Yeah, guess your right
Is it just me or does this shit happen way too often?
Person X has apparently done something bad, and has since been banned
Exile makes post telling story of what Person X has done, and what has been done to punish person X etc.
Friends of Person X leave with him, shitstorm ensues etc etc
Person X says his side of the story, people go and spread it around
Nothing changes, people get mad at each other and start throwing shit
???
profit
Didn't Duran take part in the authorisation of Rebel's PK?
Quote from: El Presidente on 09-07-2011
Didn't Duran take part in the authorisation of Rebel's PK?
Read this: http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/network-notifications/update-on-current-hgn-situation/msg123847/#msg123847 (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/network-notifications/update-on-current-hgn-situation/msg123847/#msg123847)
Quote from: Last.Exile on 09-07-2011
Quote from: El Presidente on 09-07-2011
Didn't Duran take part in the authorisation of Rebel's PK?
Read this: http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/network-notifications/update-on-current-hgn-situation/msg123847/#msg123847 (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/network-notifications/update-on-current-hgn-situation/msg123847/#msg123847)
I'm looking at photo evidence of Duran approving of the PK, would you like to see?
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa31/Emir94/DONOTDELETEPKACCEPTFROMDURAN.png (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa31/Emir94/DONOTDELETEPKACCEPTFROMDURAN.png)
The link to the snapshot taken for those who are interested.
Quote from: El Presidente on 09-07-2011
Quote from: Last.Exile on 09-07-2011
Quote from: El Presidente on 09-07-2011
Didn't Duran take part in the authorisation of Rebel's PK?
Read this: http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/network-notifications/update-on-current-hgn-situation/msg123847/#msg123847 (http://www.forums.hypergamer.net/network-notifications/update-on-current-hgn-situation/msg123847/#msg123847)
I'm looking at photo evidence of Duran approving of the PK, would you like to see?
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa31/Emir94/DONOTDELETEPKACCEPTFROMDURAN.png (http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa31/Emir94/DONOTDELETEPKACCEPTFROMDURAN.png)
The link to the snapshot taken for those who are interested.
Presidente's right. Here is the photographic evidence before you, you can choose to ignore it, or you can actually
do something that is
fair. Don't know what fair means? Hang on, let me get you a dictionary definition.
fair/fe(ə)r/
Adverb: Without cheating or trying to achieve unjust advantage: "he played fair".
Adjective: In accordance with the rules or standards; legitimate
Good day, gentlemen. Do whatever you want in the face of legitimate evidence.
Or, y'know, we can pull an OJ.
Dug sent me this infomation as well.
Quote from: Cutch on 09-07-2011
Or, y'know, we can pull an OJ.
The lack of shrinking gloves is quite disconcerting!!!
Quote from: PistolKid on 08-07-2011
Is it just me or does this shit happen way too often?
Person X has apparently done something bad, and has since been banned
Exile makes post telling story of what Person X has done, and what has been done to punish person X etc.
Friends of Person X leave with him, shitstorm ensues etc etc
Person X says his side of the story, people go and spread it around
Nothing changes, people get mad at each other and start throwing shit
???
profit
Pretty much true.
Quote from: PistolKid on 08-07-2011
Is it just me or does this shit happen way too often?
Person X has apparently done something bad, and has since been banned
Exile makes post telling story of what Person X has done, and what has been done to punish person X etc.
Friends of Person X leave with him, shitstorm ensues etc etc
Person X says his side of the story, people go and spread it around
Nothing changes, people get mad at each other and start throwing shit
???
profit
Lol, that's pretty much true. You won the game.
And derp, I'll be back. Sooner or later.
For those incapable of clicking a link and reading, my job over PK's GIVEN to me by Nitro was nothing more then making sure the application was lined up and in order. I don't give PK auths, that's SV+, AKA at the time DUG or NITRO. Not me. And even after the fact I was told not even to approve apps anymore, to just send them to Nitro due to this entire thing. So believe what you want do, it won't change anything because either side is going to stay. However if you want to leave, leave, stop being drama queens about it.
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 09-07-2011
For those incapable of clicking a link and reading, my job over PK's GIVEN to me by Nitro was nothing more then making sure the application was lined up and in order. I don't give PK auths, that's SV+, AKA at the time DUG or NITRO. Not me. And even after the fact I was told not even to approve apps anymore, to just send them to Nitro due to this entire thing. So believe what you want do, it won't change anything because either side is going to stay. However if you want to leave, leave, stop being drama queens about it.
/thread
Quote from: Nerosis on 09-07-2011
Dug sent me this information as well.
For the record because necrosis did not get admin at HGN after the two applications and badgering me and my admin team about it. He's decided to create his own community which is no doubt very similar to HGN and dug is now a head admin there. Literally a day after this, coincidence i think not.
Now they are planning to do SRP, he's made his close threads admins and yet another leech community begins.
The same somewhat I confused him for someone else for the start, he asked me frequently about his chances at being admin and hopefully he will be admin within the weak etc. I talked to him a bit and so forth and now I hear this somewhat makes me sad. So he doesn't become admin so he rages and makes his own community?
Quote from: Ravanger on 09-07-2011
The same somewhat I confused him for someone else for the start, he asked me frequently about his chances at being admin and hopefully he will be admin within the weak etc. I talked to him a bit and so forth and now I hear this somewhat makes me sad. So he doesn't become admin so he rages and makes his own community?
dumb and powerhungry children
ban for bad parenting now
If that is the case, how sad.
Being an admin isn't all what it's made out to be. It can be very challenging for people who can't set aside emotions or remain neutral to all sides, regardless of what occured.
And being an admin basically forces you to cut back in your play time in order to help players out.
I wonder how many applicants want adminship just for the power?
Admin
Good side
You are able to do events and make roleplay better for everyone
Able to kick/ban minges
Middle
You have to be mostly active
Bad
You have to be able to put up with bullshit
Have to listen to both sides of a story
Not lol spawn weapons for a faction/Players
Not abuse admin by Seeing/watching/looking for players In obsever For IC reasons
And so on.