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I have heard from several players and staff about abuse that has taken place. I have not been on MC for sometime myself but this has to and will stop.

By all means we should have a real ranking system but the permissions system did not agree with our server when last attempted. I should not have to inform everyone about this, it should be obvious.

This is a roleplay server however by allowing infinite spawning of resources factions and players have been able to build huge places with no real struggle at all. This is what happened with DEAP and has continued with other factions which has unbalanced and made the economy unstable and the playerbase angry or annoyed because of it.

What is not acceptable:
Admins Spawning Blocks for themselves and others.
Using Safezone to abuse faction territory.
Using faction commands for personal gain (e.g. using it to open another factions doors)
OPing other people not on the OP roster - What the hell are you doing?
Steampunk devices\machines\armor\guns - It was starting to get alittle stupid.

This leaves us now with a vote, to wipe the world or keep the server how it is. Wiping it would allow everyone to start over without any abuse at the cost of loosing anything you have built so far, but issues would arise still due to the huge amount of buildings out there that have been influenced by op's spawning stuff for personal gain.

The wipe would allow the server to:

• Have a clean slate without all the old junk or influences that made it unbalanced.
• Allow a different style of world, different to how it is now. Terrain would have changed.
• Give back a real economy to the players to generate more roleplay.

This choice is yours.

For.

sure, why not

when you say no More steampunk devices/armor/guns/machines etc, What does that mean for novarium?

Quote from: emperor bobby on 23-06-2011
when you say no More steampunk devices/armor/guns/machines etc, What does that mean for novarium?

Wind Powered Ships.

And Our Guns? Are those Wind powered too?

Gunpowder bro. How does it work?

Quote from: emperor bobby on 23-06-2011
And Our Guns? Are those Wind powered too?

I may consider muskets at the least, but they would be rare, very slow at firing and bad accuracy, but good fire power.

I voted yes.

Big YES from me
I hope the administration is wiped too. But Ralazo's cool

DAMN it looks like its gunns happen... I spent so much time on Valhalla :'( ... oh well. Do you mind sending me the world save though?

I think Steampunk things should stay to, now that Novarium is the only faction that uses the technology, since DEAP took it overboard and imploded itself. The same goes for the server, the map seems fine the way it is, in medieval times there were still big cities, compairable to Victory Bay, and if Safezones were finaly fixed up, we would be able to get rid of a lot of the horribly skewed terrain.

For

I'm against, and Not just because i Spent Weeks and weeks building VB to be what it is now. Everyone has put alot of work into making thier Bases and Such, and With THese WE abuses you mention, You could do what you did before, hand /op out to Trusted Players to help fix the Land, and Blackstar could finally Remove the safezones like he said he would. It seems like Such a waste of effort to wipe something that already Works Fine.

I'm up for a server wipe.

Quote from: emperor bobby on 24-06-2011
I'm against, and Not just because i Spent Weeks and weeks building VB to be what it is now. Everyone has put alot of work into making thier Bases and Such, and With THese WE abuses you mention, You could do what you did before, hand /op out to Trusted Players to help fix the Land, and Blackstar could finally Remove the safezones like he said he would. It seems like Such a waste of effort to wipe something that already Works Fine.

Agreed, we've stopped spawning things now so sooner or later the world will move out of its economic slump when the iron gets used up ect. And then it'll be back to normal

There is currently no working economy because of the people who spawned items. In the event of a server restart, I think there shouldn't be guns or anything such RPed if it can't be made with Minecraft blocks or items. Anything RPed or built should fit in the Medieval era or at least within the bounds of Minecraft materials unless we are switching eras.

Example: Cannons can be built. Tracks can be built. Locks can be built. Pistons soon and redstone stuff - it's awesome. Swords. Axes. Bows. Sure. But rifles? Nope. Powerful people who can warp and go through locked doors at will without reason (admins/OPs)? Nope! Magically making items appear from thin air? Nope. Areas of the world magically flatten or change? Nope. Zombie apocalypse? Optional.

That's my view.

... So I voted yes. And we don't even have to keep the factions the same, because I don't think warping, guns, flying ships, etc... fit with Minecraft at all.

I agree.
Steampunk ruined the server.

Why is the forum for server status suddenly locked? There is now no forum topic for saying stuff like this. :(

I can connect but can't login.

I just got an idea! In the case that the server will be wiped (which it probably will), I vote that you save the world. Just in case.

Before going to the new world, we should have a couple days of fun on the old one. I don't know what that entails, but maybe build a spleef arena and have a tournament. I also have ideas for games that involve redstone. Or, I would like to build an arcade or amusement park or casino type thing in the new world somewhere. I will get a person or 2 to help me. And with people being attracted, a city will be built around it. Gamble with iron on who will win. That'd be enough fun for me to play like 5 times more often.

Those are stupid ideas, Spleef doesnt Work in survival. and How does an amusement park Fit the medieval setting more then British colonials?

Quote from: emperor bobby on 24-06-2011
Those are stupid ideas, Spleef doesnt Work in survival. and How does an amusement park Fit the medieval setting more then British colonials?

British colonials who have machine guns, flying ships, ships that use steam and smoke, and have bionic parts.
Both are too advanced for the medieval setting.

Quote from: geccoy on 24-06-2011

Quote from: emperor bobby on 24-06-2011
Those are stupid ideas, Spleef doesnt Work in survival. and How does an amusement park Fit the medieval setting more then British colonials?

British colonials who have machine guns, flying ships, ships that use steam and smoke, and have bionic parts.
Both are too advanced for the medieval setting.

When did we have machine guns?

Quote from: Maxi96203 on 24-06-2011

Quote from: geccoy on 24-06-2011

Quote from: emperor bobby on 24-06-2011
Those are stupid ideas, Spleef doesnt Work in survival. and How does an amusement park Fit the medieval setting more then British colonials?

British colonials who have machine guns, flying ships, ships that use steam and smoke, and have bionic parts.
Both are too advanced for the medieval setting.

When did we have machine guns?

Our ships dont fly and we dont have machine guns. The boinic parts have no influence on things and steam technology doesnt give much, if any, advantage becuase supposedly thiers no water.

Quote from: mrkddsmn on 24-06-2011
There is currently no working economy because of the people who spawned items. In the event of a server restart, I think there shouldn't be guns or anything such RPed if it can't be made with Minecraft blocks or items. Anything RPed or built should fit in the Medieval era or at least within the bounds of Minecraft materials unless we are switching eras.

Example: Cannons can be built. Tracks can be built. Locks can be built. Pistons soon and redstone stuff - it's awesome. Swords. Axes. Bows. Sure. But rifles? Nope. Powerful people who can warp and go through locked doors at will without reason (admins/OPs)? Nope! Magically making items appear from thin air? Nope. Areas of the world magically flatten or change? Nope. Zombie apocalypse? Optional.

That's my view.

Its near impossible to have an economy in minecraft. People know they can make thier own things for free just as well as the "blacksmith", bake thier own foods as well as the "baker" can, and dig thier own tunnels, build thier own buildings, and have more fun doing so than getting someone else to do it for them.

Then, why is it, when I go to VB, that everything seems to be normal?
No chaos.
If coal and gas disappeared from the US, which is it's superior and inferior source of energy, they would be in discord.

Quote from: geccoy on 24-06-2011
Then, why is it, when I go to VB, that everything seems to be normal?
No chaos.
If coal and gas disappeared from the US, which is it's superior and inferior source of energy, they would be in discord.

Its kind of hard to have "chaos" when most of the citizens are IC. On top of that, are you really going to be rioting and causing chaos when you're basicly living in a naval base? Probably not, becuase you know you'll wind up with a bayonet in your gut if you try.

I don't as much care about the Medieval setting as I do with stuff that can be done in Minecraft. And THERE ARE flying ships. Not in Novarium, but over the desert there is a ship in the air. It can be seen from Novarium I think.

Guns can't be done in Minecraft. That's what I was getting at. And Medieval times had tournaments and games. Minecraft has minecarts, so rollercoasters are possible. Minecraft has redstone and switches, so anything using that is fine. And who says spleef can't work in survival? It's on peaceful. You don't have to have lava at the bottom either if that's what you meant. But anyone could clear out their inv anyway. Just have a small drop at the bottom and they can't get back up until the game is over. And a place with games would be more fun than RPing being in a city doing normal daily stuff like: get some wood, get some reeds. Make some books. Walk around. Nothing to do. Exit.

I have a maze that I made on a different server. I took screenshots from above so I know how to make it. Mazes are fun and fit in with any setting.

Quote from: mrkddsmn on 24-06-2011
I don't as much care about the Medieval setting as I do with stuff that can be done in Minecraft. And THERE ARE flying ships. Not in Novarium, but over the desert there is a ship in the air. It can be seen from Novarium I think.

Guns can't be done in Minecraft. That's what I was getting at. And Medieval times had tournaments and games. Minecraft has minecarts, so rollercoasters are possible. Minecraft has redstone and switches, so anything using that is fine. And who says spleef can't work in survival? It's on peaceful. You don't have to have lava at the bottom either if that's what you meant. But anyone could clear out their inv anyway. Just have a small drop at the bottom and they can't get back up until the game is over. And a place with games would be more fun than RPing being in a city doing normal daily stuff like: get some wood, get some reeds. Make some books. Walk around. Nothing to do. Exit.

They didnt have rollercoasters in medieval times. Thats honestly just as retarded as the air ship. Also, reseting the server will only mean people have to build new cities. People will spawn things to make said cities, cycle continues. Unless you have am admin on 24/7 to moderate everything that happens, it'll end up as the same thing as before, only without the World Edit fuckups.

Rollercoasters don't fit, And niether does the massive airship, Which Blackstar made, not us. And if you don't care about the medieval setting, why are you going on about us Not fitting in the era? And to geccoy, Novarium's Technology Gives us Practically No Advantage ic, and No advantage OOC. We don't have machine guns, our Bionic parts are part of our faction's Backstory, And don't give us any real advantage. and if people had a problem with Our Faction's technology, They should have Wiped us out When both icly, and oocly, we were a Single ship, and 5 armed crewmembers. Nobody cared then, But as soon as we got Remotely Powerful, everyone want's us Nerfed... i don't get it.

I hated the idea all along, but, I was in DEAP at the time, so, if I stepped out against Novarium, I would have to against DEAP.

Well, Some people don't Enjoy the Idea of Role playing as some Mage wizard, or whatever. fantasy doesn't Mean Magic Only, Steampunk is a type of fantasy, and this server -is- Aceon Fantasy RP, it says so right up there. And another thing, I hate the idea of Magic Oracles, mind controllers, etc. But I Don't Demand they are removed or downgraded.

I vote yes, the only reason I'm sad is I'm losing my gold armor  :'( Took me about 2 hours to find the gold.

Quote from: Lord_Blair on 24-06-2011
I vote yes, the only reason I'm sad is I'm losing my gold armor  :'( Took me about 2 hours to find the gold.

You think you're sad about 2 hours of work, imagine losing dosens of hours becase a certain few OPs don't know how to use WE and others cheated.

This "Steampunk vs. Medieval" thing really needs sorting badly. I'm fine with either (would like Fantasy more but whatever) but it needs to be consistent. Now that Ranma/Anton rage quit that will cut down on a lot of the issues with abuse/DEAP/everything so a wipe would probably be good. But some sort of canon would be nice also, even just a barebones "This is Aceon, it has [list of creatures] [list of technology]" paragraph. [/list][/list]

OKOKOK! Lets stop arguing over whether steam ruined the server. It didn't, but it didn't help it either. Novarium are from the 1700s correct? well this is a medieval server so i would think that means you cant go past 1500.  Novariums only difference to any other faction is their muskets. Which are shit anyway. A musket can only shoot one, is incredibly inaccurate and generally doesn't kill with the shot (the wound would over time because of the lack of medical in that era). I now agree with the server wipe. And also agree that steam, not 'such' a good idea. But still the amount of stuff that can be powered with coal. Should be fun for you to play around with. Now back to the topic. If we do wipe we can either spend the last days having a big world war. But that would be pointless seeing as the world means nothing, it would be rushed meaning no tatics. Ect. Really I or another member could just write a non biased ending to the world (working on it now will post later) so fuck any last days on the server. Now after that we need to delete ALL faction topics, or topics Specifically related to the world of aceon. And start COMPLETELY new. perhaps though keep the world save in some folder and one day we can have an event when we are warped to a parallel universe and see all these massive abandoned buildings. Decaying beauty. And a world, ended, by war.  I know i wrote alot but if you read to this point thank you.   

Wait! When did all these people start complaining about steampunk technology? They never complained early on. If they had we could have changed it. It's a fantasy server for gods sake. It's not going overboard, we aren't exactly hurting everyone. It's like as soon as one of the biggest fantasy factions get's big, EXACTLY LIKE DEAP. You all suddenly start complaining on the technology that faction uses. I was there when DEAP was created and I remember everyone being like, "oh magic will be great!" and then when they got big, "They're too overpowered..."? So is this how it is? As soon as a faction gets big you instantly think "Oh no, they're a threat" even if they're quite a neutral faction? I voted no to the server reset because the problems you are stating can easily be fixed. Steampunk technology, is mostly for looks half the time. Like the bionic parts and the steam ships. We don't have any machines that are overpowered? And for our guns the disadvantage of them is their reloading time and their accuracy. I don't see how muskets and flintlock pistols don't fit into the period 20XX which is what blackstar posted on another thread somewhere as the year of the server. If someone told me one reason why our technology is overpowered and I couldn't answer it then I might consider changing the faction abit. And Lupus, I believe many people want to continue their characters and factions over from this world to the next.

Exactly, If people had a problem with Novarium, They Should have Bloody done something when we were 5 Men and a boat Hiding on a island in Dirt Bunkers. Instead, everyone ignored us, and we Played our way from 1 ship, and soem dirt houses, to 2 cities, and the Most powerful faction on the server (valhalla being a very close second.) Novarium outlived every other major faction, Not because our technology was too great, but because We Played our cards right and made it to the top. If people had a problem with us, You should have shot the admiral Dead On first contact, when we didn't have a backup, you should have destroyed the cove, leaving us to Retreat back to novarium, You should have denied us food when we first arrived, starving us, you should have Sunk the Heart of novarium, leaving the Speartip, the admiral and colonel and their body guards stranded. But you Neglected us, and when we're too strong to beat back, people jump at an ooc excuse to Destroy us. -_-

Might be a little late, but HGNTurkey is being a troll, and griefing. He might be an OP, I don't know. Just saying. He's griefing Kargate (Novarium City) by flooding it.

Quote from: Feerman on 25-06-2011
Might be a little late, but HGNTurkey is being a troll, and griefing. He might be an OP, I don't know. Just saying. He's griefing Kargate (Novarium City) by flooding it.

Not an op. You killed me and stole my shit/

Quote from: Turkey on 25-06-2011

Quote from: Feerman on 25-06-2011
Might be a little late, but HGNTurkey is being a troll, and griefing. He might be an OP, I don't know. Just saying. He's griefing Kargate (Novarium City) by flooding it.

Not an op. You killed me and stole my shit/

Not to crowd this up, but 1, it'd be hard to kill you, it's on Peaceful, 2, you never died, and 3 you were tping around and disappearing.

I finished writing the ending (will be up in another thread) and bobby you are such a badass in it XD

:D

Why having a new start ?

Kinda pointless to me.

Also I would have wanted to talk to you Exile, before you putted this just up.

Today I heard that bobby and someone else (forgot who) would leave if this happened. I hope not, because they put time and creativity into the server to make it fun and enjoyable. Since a rebuild seems to be the high-majority vote, just try to take the opportunity to change things for the better. Pistons are coming soon. Maps can be used in RP. I'm sure you could think of something.

I personally can't wait for the map to wipe i have big plans that i cant wait to set in motion.
And i think anyone whose fretting this shouldnt be.
I know its fucking frustrating to lose hours and hours of work.
But this new beginning holds so must promise for everyone.

^^^^^^
The last too posts are exactly how 70% of te server feel

After reading all this there r some stuff i rly dont understand tbh...

First of all: If people where so angry on the steampunk idea why not RP an assault and destroy the factory building so the technology would be unuseable / lost.

Seceondly: when the server wipe is comming up soon how r we supposed 2 join it.... Rumors says that there will be no whitelistning and random people could join and do as they wish if they just had the IP... If that is the case there will be more chaos then than we have now.

Thirdly: due to the server reset how are we going to build then? If it is still medieval then we need some limits to each individual... Even though i dont like that idea because i like to build cities/towns/castles... Are we only allowed to build 1 building and w8 until more ppl join the area and then you are allowed to expand your "territory" or how is going to be?

Even though it is a good idea im kinda sad because 7 days of hard work with kargate will disapear... I know i am not the one to talk about building for a long time cause im still new BUT it is still annoying to be unknowing on how the new server will be... i feel that people might split up and make their own little communities/factions all around the world and then we are not back to square one.

Quote from: GreenLeprechaun on 26-06-2011
After reading all this there r some stuff i rly dont understand tbh...

First of all: If people where so angry on the steampunk idea why not RP an assault and destroy the factory building so the technology would be unuseable / lost.

Seceondly: when the server wipe is comming up soon how r we supposed 2 join it.... Rumors says that there will be no whitelistning and random people could join and do as they wish if they just had the IP... If that is the case there will be more chaos then than we have now.

Thirdly: due to the server reset how are we going to build then? If it is still medieval then we need some limits to each individual... Even though i dont like that idea because i like to build cities/towns/castles... Are we only allowed to build 1 building and w8 until more ppl join the area and then you are allowed to expand your "territory" or how is going to be?

Even though it is a good idea im kinda sad because 7 days of hard work with kargate will disapear... I know i am not the one to talk about building for a long time cause im still new BUT it is still annoying to be unknowing on how the new server will be... i feel that people might split up and make their own little communities/factions all around the world and then we are not back to square one.

First: true
Second: Wtf, who said that, I don't want morons and griefers on my Server ...
Third: It will be like before with building.

what will the new system be? people are saying whitelist wont be needed, That implies you can just join if you ahev the IP.

Quote from: emperor bobby on 26-06-2011
what will the new system be? people are saying whitelist wont be needed, That implies you can just join if you ahev the IP.

Like I said in my post before, Who the fuck said that ?

Portkins.

Eh, in retrospect, maybe i should have taken that with a grain of salt, but i've heard alot of people say that, portkins being the first.

Quote from: emperor bobby on 26-06-2011
Portkins.

Hmm I dunno why he said something like that, but the whitelist will be kept as it is a stupid idea to just open the server for anyone cause morons who don't know how to rp will join and only build crap and griefer's will join and destroy everything .___.

I thought it was getting changed to a
Visitor
Builder
OP
Admin
ranking, that way anyone can join and look around but you need to be given the right to build

No way, those systems are stupid. It means you can only place a certain amount of blocks and that would be extremely annoying. People can't give an app in, which means we don't know if they can actually rp. It will allow spammers and retards on the server and there would be nothing we could do about it if an op wasn't present. The biggest problem is the set amount of blocks you can place. Unless that permission was at "you can place 100,000 blocks as a builder", I might accept it...

Well black i heard it from Portkins 2 about the whitelist thing.

But i would like to ask IF there is a need of a capital somewhere I would gladly accept the offer of building it... It would take some month but I would be able to make an area within a wall where all people can meet and RP if needed... in short a place for all factions to gather to trade materials, talk and RP and also a place for people to make a home...

By saying a home i mean a house with max 2 floors + basement in a restricted area so they or I can build a house, however only with some specific allowed materials... and if they would like they can make a shop aswell but only those two things...

One big "safe zones" if you please BUT NOT MAKING IT A SAFE ZONE.. just an idea I would gladly build if accepted...


I also just want to ask are we going to ask to be whitelisted again and will the IP come on the forum in the future.. All i need to know :D

The IP will stay and I think you guys need to reapply then.

Is there any date on when the wipe will come or is it right after the vote has ended?

Quote from: GreenLeprechaun on 26-06-2011
Is there any date on when the wipe will come or is it right after the vote has ended?

I don't know when it will be wiped as Last.Exile just putted this up here without talking to me.

Very well

There will be no whitelist, Last.Exile/Silver Knight decided this.
A new permission system will be set up, in which trusted OP's will be chosen to manage the server without the spawning commands and stuff.

Black Star you are of course not aware of this because you aren't aware either of what's going on at the moment.
SK did this after I talked to him and some other people did.

Quote from: Ralazo on 26-06-2011
There will be no whitelist, Last.Exile/Silver Knight decided this.
A new permission system will be set up, in which trusted OP's will be chosen to manage the server without the spawning commands and stuff.

Black Star you are of course not aware of this because you aren't aware either of what's going on at the moment.
SK did this after I talked to him and some other people did.

How should I be aware if noone tells me anything, I am all day long online on Steam and I always write insta back, but did I even got 1 message ? No, not at all.


And someone is griefing novarium hard.

What's the point in fixing it if the server is getting a wipe anyway.

Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011
Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

you're trying too hard

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011
Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

Why would I try that, Duran?
I can't get a high position.

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011
Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

Wow. Spell much? If you were trying to look like an idiot, you did a pretty good job as well as being disrespectful.

Quote from: mrkddsmn on 26-06-2011

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011
Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

Wow. Spell much? If you were trying to look like an idiot, you did a pretty good job as well as being disrespectful.

Oh shit really?

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011

Quote from: mrkddsmn on 26-06-2011

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011
Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

Wow. Spell much? If you were trying to look like an idiot, you did a pretty good job as well as being disrespectful.

Oh shit really?

I sure smell the scent of Summer around here.

Quote from: mrkddsmn on 26-06-2011

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011
Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

Wow. Spell much? If you were trying to look like an idiot, you did a pretty good job as well as being disrespectful.

NC - Dying of Laughter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2-pHvqq_BQ#)

Quote from: Duranblackraven on 26-06-2011
Hay guiez I haz idea: Letz nawt talk to Blackstar about anything, I meanz hez only teh hed adminz on the server he haz no place in knowingz what goez awn on teh server. So anywai we talkz to Last.Exile so it lookz leik onleh we care about teh server and blackstar iznt doing his jawb se maybeh we get teh high positionz and such. Gewd idea rit?

I assumed he knew.

Just wipe it soon,because everything seems to be going to hell in VB. Also Apache's base was partially greifed.

I am not 100 % sure, but server wide war i think is going on whilst yall talk to each other in the forums...

Quote from: Sir_Therim on 26-06-2011
I am not 100 % sure, but server wide war i think is going on whilst yall talk to each other in the forums...

Nothings happening, people are just griefing thier tits off becuase they know they'll get away with it.