SRP Serious Discussion

[Zstan]

EDIT: Other than that we need an IC reason for PK.

Other than 'lol i kill u'

[Locke]

I agree so much with the bloodsucker issue, it pisses me off to no end when people figure that just because the game mechanics don't let bloodsuckers go apeshit on them that they can take one down.

In Clear sky a bloodsucker grabs a Dutier, and leaps 20 feet into the air with him, they are fucking insane animals that cannot be tamed and that will fuck shit up where ever they go.

And to Welek, stop trolling the topic.

[Celtic]

10.  Believe it or not I've gotten harder on who I accept into Freedom but still most people resort to being a bandit or a mercenary.  Why?  Most likely due to it being where they think the money is.  STALKER's should work in groups and pool their money together.

And that my friend is the idea me and Jackal have. See our two stalkers do that. They help each other out. Put their money together buy something, keep saving, buy something.

My STALKER does the same thing, him and his friends help each other out.

[Bielecki]

On my Mono, i've taken alot of Stalkers, Bandits, Mercs and even a Freedomer to the big bad scary pit to be killed and eaten.
Alot of them have projected some great Fear Rp, people are doing it.
For example, I took G-Man [AMT]'s Freedom character and brought him to the pit.
We left a Bloodsucker in with him... He was screaming, crying and shouting for help, was some great Fear Rp on his behalf.

[Duranblackraven]

I agree on closing the trader apps, we have way more then enough to get people by, and that's good. Though also I've yet to see a rush of traders, most I've seen on were three, including me. And on the note of traders needing to give out jobs, I can't exactly at this time. I don't have enough money saved up to start really offering them, and I won't for a while, so enjoy listening to me broadcasting over the PDA offering trading services until I can save up the money to make jobs.

I also don't agree with wipeing the characters, it'll just piss ALOT of people off and cause them to leave SRP for good. I agree on people actually killing off the higher ranking people to clear the way for others, it's done all the time, especially when that person is someone of power, and the other person wants it.

[Chaos]

First thing that has come to my attention is that there is hardly any fear rp and everyone roleplay as a badass. There is no normal human being, or stalker should I say. And even if there is. They are usually different than others as in being badass or something else that is simply rediciolus.

I think your thinking more of a small population on SRP, take a bigger look and see some of the other stalkers.

Second , I've seen a bloody ninja in srp. Now that is so uncanon it can't be described. Of all things, a ninja. I won't name anyone, but it's simply unbelievable and I think many of other players agree with me. No , I don't care about explanations, gtfo , ninjas are not present in the zone.

I haven't seen a ninja, but there is some really off-canon, magical, and unbelievable rp, but again, only a small population.



Third, there are too many traders, applications should be closed and roster cleaned up a bit. Having many traders raises the chance of people giving stuff from one char to other or glitching somehow. There should be a rule about how many traders can be present on one server. Faction traders should be assigned for all factions.

I agree, except faction traders should be exempt from the 'how many traders can be present' rule. There should be faction trader flags, so we can't buy anything that our faction wouldn't have. (Freedom Nato, Duty Warsaw, etc..) Faction traders should also be made to sell higher prices to people not in their faction, and normal price to friendly factions.



Fourth, everyone seems to be asspulling money out of no where. I've watched this closely, the server was really poor and suddenly it erupted with money, everyone wearing expensive armor and weapons. Basically most of the SRP roleplayers have all the gear they need and all the money. This was proven by a huge number of exos and fn2000s which have been moved back to applications, instead of everyone wearing them around.

Not really.. Kind of, but that's how SRP mostly always has been, well before the wipes. I only se a few people with exo's but they are really dedicated and get on the server a lot.



Fifth, I believe there should be a wipe of characters and prices raised on everything, make the economy tremble to it's knees again. Lower paychecks. Major factions should spawn with default armor and weapon. Note it shouldn't be anything too powerful. I have learned that if you have less money and low classed armor or weapons it , or noting at all, it generates roleplay.

Have you been on the server recently? The economy isn't that good, it's just traders have to lower prices to make any money. When the prices were set the traders made more money and everyone else had little money. 200 rubles an hour is not a lot of money. The paychecks are pretty low.




Sixth, artifacts should be really rare, I've seen people having simply too many artifacts that they are now a common thing. This is probably the source where all of the exos and fn2000s came from before. There is probably a way to get around this somehow. There should be different kinds of artifacts which should have their own spawning rate , rare, common etc. etc. If it's possible to do.

Artifacts are rare and extremely cheap (if you sell it as a trader to your inventory) compared to the way they used to be. I believe admins making events and spawning them was way better, the anomaly system and spawning is stupid.




Seventh, now, about passive roleplay, some people do it , some people don't. I on my trader have done some excellent passive roleplay and if Exile has the log of it, he should post it as an example to everyone. Roleplaying with trader should be a bit more passive and not just "HURR DURR GIEF MONEY, ITEM KTYBAI." Also when it comes to passive, your char needs to rest obviously, you should rp being tired, hungry, thirsty, I have hardly came across this. I strongly suggest that not just admins should enforce, fear rp, passive rp, but the players them selves should make an example, attract the other player to do it.

Yeah, your right. I'll admit sometimes I get lazy with a lot of customers and get tired of typing a long sentence or two every time I make a trade. I do rp passively all the time too. There's only a faction battle occasionally.



Eighth, now when it comes to major factions leader, there shouldn't be like three leaders. That causes instability as people are different from each other and will cause arguments about decisions when it comes to the major faction. There should be two leaders who get on with each other. There should be an American and European leader, as that way both kinds of players can enjoy their faction. Like I've stated long time ago a leader has an aura which attracts other players, because all they want is to get up higher. Reach the highest rank they can. Other than that, there should be one leader and one co-leader who should work closely and make the faction what it's suppose to be. And remain active. I don't like people who gain leader and go fuck all. You gained leader for a reason, now go on and prove you are the right choice. Do your job ,  if you know a person is making your faction worse, talk to him or her, if nothing works, kick.


I agree.



Ninth, when it comes to mutants, people should most of the time run like hell and not go, "OH LOOK A MUTANT; KEEL ET AND SEEL ET TO DA ECOZ! OR DA TRADARZ!" You should usually run away from the mutants, as you are not Rambo who takes down a fucking military base with one never ending ammo machine gun. Stop acting like bloodsuckers are fluffy pets who can get killed by one shot. In STALKER games they could kill an FN exo alone, especially in CoP, while taking 2 or more magazines on their chest, or 15 max shots in the head(this is all on normal).


I doubt a mutant could take an exo with a FN that's experienced. But yes, you know the small population of power gamers, invincible and unbelievable characters? Yes one of them killed a sucker with a knife, he only wore a skat. Completely owned it and (of course he powergamed n stuff) he's an admin.
Crimzon_Reaper



Tenth, what's wrong with all the people avoiding being a stalker? I believe all factions should get a number of players and simply close down the applications and make people be forced to be a stalker. In the stalker games it's hard to get in a faction. It should be here too. And when I say stalker, I mean the cool neutral guy who is willing to help if you are in trouble. Now I'm not saying it's should be really hard, but I hope you catch my drift.
And why do people have a problem with wearing a sunrise and an abakan or AK74M?
They are just as good weapons and armor as any other. I remember Kieck being the only guy with a stalker clan, which was the brother wolves. It had excellent concept and it was simply sad to see him be the only member and hang alone at the underpass. I am simply sorry that I couldn't have helped him out develop it. And he actually had a sunrise and some mid classed weapon like an abakan. And that was simply great.

I don't avoid being a stalker, I enjoy it. I just like to keep factions active, so i play on my Freedomer most.

[Freeze]

Dug, Honsetly, All your raging I thought was bullshit, That's just my opinion.
A wipe? Really? If that ever happens, I preety sure as hell I'm done with SRP, others would agree with me on that. There's no bloody ninja, Stop dreaming. And there's no such thing as to many Traders, now we can buy anything with ease. Also Passive is done at a rate and One Leader is good enough, Three Max if it's doing bad, Which I agree with you.

No bloody Ninja? I disagree, ever meet Jayne or "Reaper"..Crimzon's characters.

[Goose]

Yep Jayne is not a ninja she is a trader >.> anyway...

The wipe would just seemingly cause alot of problems and discourage people from playing even more, however the PK higher up people with good gear is a decen't plan/idea i hate saying that cause i have an exo but yea it would even the balance, but it could cause alot of just "Ima kill you for you gear lolz" And people would come up with a complete BS IC reason to PK that person.

[Dug]

I think your thinking more of a small population on SRP, take a bigger look and see some of the other stalkers.

Almost most of people I roleplay with happen to do that.

I agree, except faction traders should be exempt from the 'how many traders can be present' rule. There should be faction trader flags, so we can't buy anything that our faction wouldn't have. (Freedom Nato, Duty Warsaw, etc..) Faction traders should also be made to sell higher prices to people not in their faction, and normal price to friendly factions.

I agree with this to full extent.

Not really.. Kind of, but that's how SRP mostly always has been, well before the wipes. I only se a few people with exo's but they are really dedicated and get on the server a lot.

Explain the overgrown number of merc suits, skats etc etc.

Have you been on the server recently? The economy isn't that good, it's just traders have to lower prices to make any money. When the prices were set the traders made more money and everyone else had little money. 200 rubles an hour is not a lot of money. The paychecks are pretty low.

I've been on the server recently and I've seen most people use g36 or some other powerful weapon along with armor.

Artifacts are rare and extremely cheap (if you sell it as a trader to your inventory) compared to the way they used to be. I believe admins making events and spawning them was way better, the anomaly system and spawning is stupid.

I haven't found an artifact yet, true. But they are cheap again. It used to be great when admins spawned them. I'm just saying this from my traders view, people just keep coming with artifacts.

[Khorn]

I agree on the recommendation's being to easy to get. And some people like to play the cool bad ass that can kill you with a middle finger, kinda makes me avoid them since they are all cold blooded psychos.

Most of the players I play around use passive rp to an extent. Some go a little to far though. I remember a player that went as far as going '/me starts to walk'. That is a bit much. But not a problem.

Also of late I played a few times my blood sucker and zombie and most seem to run away in fright. Every now and then I see a player run at me, but usually cause they are new to SRP.

On the paycheck thing, I don't really care. My Freedomer makes 100 an hour, so I won't be getting anything good soon.

I found also only one artifact so far, but it was in the Eco building when everyone was gone.

My main source of income in the game is from finding guns everywhere.

[lolKieck]

I think your thinking more of a small population on SRP, take a bigger look and see some of the other stalkers.

I play with new SRPers, and one polish thought about "lol Ill keel dat exo and taek his munneh plus gunz and suitz, k ?" And next time I was hunting for someone in the S1, I got shot by him with a makarov. He tried to kill me rather than run for a good-equipped guy. He did that, after spraying 1 or 2 mags on me, which didn't hit me because of the accuracy of the makarov.
EDIT: Who would need extra stitches anyway ?

...some people like to play the cool bad ass that can kill you with a middle finger, kinda makes me avoid them since they are all cold blooded psychos.

A helluva lot. If you want to play as a badass, you have to act or be one. We don't need wanna-be's who try to be cool by attacking bloodsuckers, having like 10 kills before coming to the Zone, then killing every single living soul on the way to that sector. About badasses ice-cold-killa-gangsta's, even when your character is Spetsnaz, he still is afraid of fight and if he is new to the Zone, he would shit his pants when he could see a pseudodog. That was even mentioned in one of the STALKERs, where one guy had heart rupture because he saw a mutant.

[Aresty]

I don't agree with the Wipe. Just because you saw people with FN and Exo's, doesn't mean the Economy is up and running. When I put high prices nobody will buy, so that's not an option.
The economy isn't good at all. All the old-timers may have money, but the new guys are hardly getting any of it. And about a job, a Trader should give out one when it comes in his interests and profit, not just because STALKERS needs to work.
Artifacts are rare, and in 3 Months I only had 2 of them, bought from other STALKERS.
A wipe wouldn't help at all, it'd just lower the population 'cos they are pissed of losing their high-tech shit. Maybe a wipe at the end of each year would help.

[Dug]

I don't agree with the Wipe. Just because you saw people with FN and Exo's, doesn't mean the Economy is up and running. When I put high prices nobody will buy, so that's not an option.
The economy isn't good at all. All the old-timers may have money, but the new guys are hardly getting any of it. And about a job, a Trader should give out one when it comes in his interests and profit, not just because STALKERS needs to work.
Artifacts are rare, and in 3 Months I only had 2 of them, bought from other STALKERS.
A wipe wouldn't help at all, it'd just lower the population 'cos they are pissed of losing their high-tech shit. Maybe a wipe at the end of each year would help.

It would piss them off sooner or later. Why delay it?

[Aresty]

A wipe isn't the solution. Because we will have the same situation 1-2 months later.

[Dug]

With Paintchecks idea I believe things would be different.

[Aresty]

I readed Paintchecks idea, and it can be applied to the server without a wipe.
Recently we had alot of new guys, and with Paint's idea, maybe more people will just stay as a loner.

[Dug]

Worth a try. But , other than that people should try roleplaying as a human. And not try to be "I'm a bigger bad ass than you"

[lolKieck]

Worth a try. But , other than that people should try roleplaying as a human. And not try to be "I'm a bigger bad ass than you"

And acting like they were killing bloodsuckers for breakfast. It should be reversed. Bloodsuckers drink blood so they kill stalkers for breakfast, ya kno wat Im sayin ?

[Dug]

Worth a try. But , other than that people should try roleplaying as a human. And not try to be "I'm a bigger bad ass than you"

I kno wat ya sayin.
And acting like they were killing bloodsuckers for breakfast. It should be reversed. Bloodsuckers drink blood so they kill stalkers for breakfast, ya kno wat Im sayin ?

[Aresty]

Fear-RP must be enforced by admins. But some of the chars fighted with sucker for along time, and after a while you just don't fear them that much.

[lolKieck]

Fear-RP must be enforced by admins. But some of the chars fighted with sucker for along time, and after a while you just don't fear them that much.

At least 3 months and getting injured, but still being alive. That should be it mate. No "I was in the Zone for years, before it created too."
I got mindf***ed by a controller once, so I think I am afraid of controllers more than a bloodsucker.
Something I wanted to say, but can't remember it.

[Zombiedance]

I remember when srp FIRST came out the admins always did events i dont remember who the admin was but there were tons of events like radiation would spread over an area due to something happening or one time he had an earthquake and the bar got destroyed and we all had to slowly rebuild it it was cool. Now the admins just watch us they don't do events or anything unless you get a good one on which seems very rare. But yet again I think everything i will be fixed soon enough.

[Ravanger]

Main reason we dont do stuff is since people bitch all the time.

[Zombiedance]

Yah there is always a group of people who get mad for some dumb reason.

[Paintcheck]

Events become no fun when you have to stop them every 3 minutes because people bitch about getting accidentally shot/dying.