[SRP] Banditry Issue (Ace)

[Corocan]

The Admin Involved was Ace. I'll begin just as the story had begun,


It was aprox 1:30 PM (-0:00 GMT). The server limited about 12-15 players. My Bandit Character, Sunshine, and our two allies, 'Volk' (Midgetonic) and 'Doc' (Dr. Silent Killer). There were two stalkers on board a Ship: Star (Kropfi) and Aleksandr Kirill (BAMF). The Bandits were inside of the Ship and were waiting. The three of us stood there, weapons away. Suddenly, Volk gave the signal and we all drew our weapons and demanded the stalkers get on the floor. Aleksandr got on the floor with no resistance. As he got down, Star pulled out a pistol and aimed it at Volk, firing towards him. I already had my shotgun up and ready, so I adjusted the aim towards him and cracked a shot, sending him to the floor.


I then proceeded to knocked out Alekandr and tie him up. Volk walked up and shot Star in the hand after he refused to give up the weapon, then Kropfi did a '/me' informing us of his death. As he tried to crawl away, we told him to stay, and he did so. I then proceeded to remove 500 rubles from Aleksandr's inventory and he awoke and spawned ontop of me. I tried falling over to get out of him and died (OOC Glitch). I asked Ace for a TP back to the ship and he then pronounced in Adminchat that we were to cease and desist the heist. This was very saddening to me, as it was our only successful heist in a long time. His reasons for stopping us were: 1. We can't rob Traders (Besides there being a rule about this I've ever seen and we weren't robbing the trader.) and 2. Robbing the Ship was a stupid idea (Besides the fact we outnumbered them AND killed one of them.). After the event, he threatened to take action if we tried to complain and told us to return the stolen gear.

I returned it and came here to post my thoughts about this. It's not the gear I complain about, it's the fact that bandits are the only people keeping the server economy in check and providing arms to traders so they can sell them to others. The admins CONSTANTLY through bad things at us because they feel that some Zone Justice is required, when in fact we're the good guys OOCly. We never result to torturous and humiliating acts when we do this. The plan was to loot 500 Rubles and one gun, then get out. Instead it all got thrown asunder by Ace when he decided to take it upon himself to stop us for no decent reason. I respect Ace, but this is a decision I cannot respect.

Also, no Fans of Ace posting about how he is right even when you haven't read 1/4th of this wall-o-text. Only people involved in the issue or an admin that will judge this impartially.


I'd like to make it known I'm not trying to intimidate Ace or "get back at him", it's because of the fact that Admins are constantly doing this sort of stuff because they think that person will leave because he lost one gun. You're supposed to be an admin, not "God seeking wrath upon the wicked".

[Tom]

Why are you always hell bent on attacking the Boat?

[Lent23]

Did the same thing twice yesterday.
Sorry, Corocan, but I believe Ace believed that since we did the same thing yesterday TWICE, that there was no real reason to attack it AGAIN on more characters.
I kinda support Ace's stopping of it, though he needs to defend himself.

[Corocan]

That one time before was the only time that I personally robbed the ship. This was the second time I've robbed it, not the third fourth or whatever.

Also, Lent,

Also, no Fans of Ace posting about how he is right even when you haven't read 1/4th of this wall-o-text. Only people involved in the issue or an admin that will judge this impartially.

Thank you.

[Plunger]

The Admin Involved was Ace. I'll begin just as the story had begun,


It was aprox 1:30 PM (-0:00 GMT). The server limited about 12-15 players. My Bandit Character, Sunshine, and our two allies, 'Volk' (Midgetonic) and 'Doc' (Dr. Silent Killer). There were two stalkers on board a Ship: Star (Kropfi) and Aleksandr Kirill (BAMF). The Bandits were inside of the Ship and were waiting. The three of us stood there, weapons away. Suddenly, Volk gave the signal and we all drew our weapons and demanded the stalkers get on the floor. Aleksandr got on the floor with no resistance. As he got down, Star pulled out a pistol and aimed it at Volk, firing towards him. I already had my shotgun up and ready, so I adjusted the aim towards him and cracked a shot, sending him to the floor.


I then proceeded to knocked out Alekandr and tie him up. Volk walked up and shot Star in the hand after he refused to give up the weapon, then Kropfi did a '/me' informing us of his death. As he tried to crawl away, we told him to stay, and he did so. I then proceeded to remove 500 rubles from Aleksandr's inventory and he awoke and spawned ontop of me. I tried falling over to get out of him and died. I asked Ace for a TP back to the ship and he then pronounced in Adminchat that we were to cease and desist the heist. This was very saddening to me, as it was our only successful heist in a long time. His reasons for stopping us were: 1. We can't rob Traders (Besides there being a rule about this I've ever seen and we weren't robbing the trader.) and 2. Robbing the Ship was a stupid idea (Besides the fact we outnumbered them AND killed one of them.). After the event, he threatened to take action if we tried to complain and told us to return the stolen gear.

I returned it and came here to post my thoughts about this. It's not the gear I complain about, it's the fact that bandits are the only people keeping the server economy in check and providing arms to traders so they can sell them to others. The admins CONSTANTLY through bad things at us because they feel that some Zone Justice is required, when in fact we're the good guys OOCly. We never result to torturous and humiliating acts when we do this. The plan was to loot 500 Rubles and one gun, then get out. Instead it all got thrown asunder by Ace when he decided to take it upon himself to stop us for no decent reason. I respect Ace, but this is a decision I cannot respect.

Also, no Fans of Ace posting about how he is right even when you haven't read 1/4th of this wall-o-text. Only people involved in the issue or an admin that will judge this impartially.


I'd like to make it known I'm not trying to intimidate Ace or "get back at him", it's because of the fact that Admins are constantly doing this sort of stuff because they think that person will leave because he lost one gun. You're supposed to be an admin, not "God seeking wrath upon the wicked".

This is the second time you've done this, coincidentally it's the second time it failed, maybe you should take a hint.

[Corocan]

The Admin Involved was Ace. I'll begin just as the story had begun,


It was aprox 1:30 PM (-0:00 GMT). The server limited about 12-15 players. My Bandit Character, Sunshine, and our two allies, 'Volk' (Midgetonic) and 'Doc' (Dr. Silent Killer). There were two stalkers on board a Ship: Star (Kropfi) and Aleksandr Kirill (BAMF). The Bandits were inside of the Ship and were waiting. The three of us stood there, weapons away. Suddenly, Volk gave the signal and we all drew our weapons and demanded the stalkers get on the floor. Aleksandr got on the floor with no resistance. As he got down, Star pulled out a pistol and aimed it at Volk, firing towards him. I already had my shotgun up and ready, so I adjusted the aim towards him and cracked a shot, sending him to the floor.


I then proceeded to knocked out Alekandr and tie him up. Volk walked up and shot Star in the hand after he refused to give up the weapon, then Kropfi did a '/me' informing us of his death. As he tried to crawl away, we told him to stay, and he did so. I then proceeded to remove 500 rubles from Aleksandr's inventory and he awoke and spawned ontop of me. I tried falling over to get out of him and died. I asked Ace for a TP back to the ship and he then pronounced in Adminchat that we were to cease and desist the heist. This was very saddening to me, as it was our only successful heist in a long time. His reasons for stopping us were: 1. We can't rob Traders (Besides there being a rule about this I've ever seen and we weren't robbing the trader.) and 2. Robbing the Ship was a stupid idea (Besides the fact we outnumbered them AND killed one of them.). After the event, he threatened to take action if we tried to complain and told us to return the stolen gear.

I returned it and came here to post my thoughts about this. It's not the gear I complain about, it's the fact that bandits are the only people keeping the server economy in check and providing arms to traders so they can sell them to others. The admins CONSTANTLY through bad things at us because they feel that some Zone Justice is required, when in fact we're the good guys OOCly. We never result to torturous and humiliating acts when we do this. The plan was to loot 500 Rubles and one gun, then get out. Instead it all got thrown asunder by Ace when he decided to take it upon himself to stop us for no decent reason. I respect Ace, but this is a decision I cannot respect.

Also, no Fans of Ace posting about how he is right even when you haven't read 1/4th of this wall-o-text. Only people involved in the issue or an admin that will judge this impartially.


I'd like to make it known I'm not trying to intimidate Ace or "get back at him", it's because of the fact that Admins are constantly doing this sort of stuff because they think that person will leave because he lost one gun. You're supposed to be an admin, not "God seeking wrath upon the wicked".

This is the second time you've done this, coincidentally it's the second time it failed, maybe you should take a hint.

We failed because of OOC interferance. We actually had 99% won before Ace and Tom stepped in.

And,

Also, no Fans of Ace posting about how he is right even when you haven't read 1/4th of this wall-o-text. Only people involved in the issue or an admin that will judge this impartially.

You wouldn't be saying we lost unless you've only gotten through three sentences.

[Lent23]

Did the same thing twice yesterday.
Sorry, Corocan, but I believe Ace believed that since we did the same thing yesterday TWICE, that there was no real reason to attack it AGAIN on more characters.
I kinda support Ace's stopping of it, though he needs to defend himself.

[Corocan]

The last time we did it we were totally out of our league and acting very rash.

This time, however, we knew what we were able to win and had a plan in set and the killing of Kropfi was a perfect example that if anyone pulled a gun we could've handled it.

But we're not focusing on that event, we're focusing on how bandit issues should be handled. We can't have SAs pulling rules out their butts and advancing on a situation without educated themselves on whats going on first. That's how we get abusive admins and flame wars.

[Paralyzed]

The trader in this case was me under the name; (Vladislav 'Shadow' Ivanov') and only want to reply to one of the points you mentioned both in-game as in the forums:

1. We can't rob Traders (Besides there being a rule about this I've ever seen and we weren't robbing the trader.)

ICly I was told; to drop 800 rubles as Trader (// If possible).

[Tom]

The whole reason we shut your RP down is cause it would be the third time you did it. First time was on Suckers (Dumb) second time was on bandits (You got pwnt) third time you where sucessful. I guess. But Apparently it was a problem so I gave Ace the go ahead to stop it (Monumentally idiotic to rob your supplier) stick to normal bandit shit.

Closing dis down, SF me later.