I had to make a post about this on the Terraria forums to stop asking global mods for the password.
What exactly happens when someone gets their application accepted? I mean, don't you guys PM the password to the server right away to them? Or, do they have to wait a certain amount of time? Perhaps they are being punished for something?
I got another PM a few minutes ago from someone wanting the password.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 04-07-2012
Quote from: Reginald on 04-07-2012
Since my application for terraria is accepted hence kindly provide me its pass.
No.
I might be a global mod but the focus of HGN is not Terraria so I don't know anything about Terraria or its password. You need to contact a Terraria mod.
As to why they don't just PM you the password when it gets accepted is absolutely beyond my knowledge.
Though fortunately this isn't happening as frequently as it used to. Just an innocent mistake maybe?
Not an innocent mistake sadly; i've recieved a PM from a "Regi3Australian" regarding the Terraria password, and about five others within the last two months. This is not a one off :( - infact I made a thread a while ago instructing new applicants to only PM Terraria/Minecraft mods.
Quote from: ThY on 04-07-2012
Not an innocent mistake sadly; i've recieved a PM from a "Regi3Australian" regarding the Terraria password, and about five others within the last two months. This is not a one off :( - infact I made a thread a while ago instructing new applicants to only PM Terraria/Minecraft mods.
Yes though what I do not understand is why don't the moderators accepting the application, while they are at it, simply
send a PM to the person who was accepted containing the password?
Unless there's some sort of retarded password rotation that I cannot fathom the mechanics and complexities of--in which case my next question would be why such a complicated system.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 04-07-2012
Quote from: ThY on 04-07-2012
Not an innocent mistake sadly; i've recieved a PM from a "Regi3Australian" regarding the Terraria password, and about five others within the last two months. This is not a one off :( - infact I made a thread a while ago instructing new applicants to only PM Terraria/Minecraft mods.
Yes though what I do not understand is why don't the moderators accepting the application, while they are at it, simply send a PM to the person who was accepted containing the password?
Unless there's some sort of retarded password rotation that I cannot fathom the mechanics and complexities of--in which case my next question would be why such a complicated system.
Chatting with le terraria mods now, one momento! Ill sf you
I thought I made it clear not to ask anyone but the Caphori Mods for the password.
Feel free to ban them for a week or two if they ask again.
Quote from: ThY on 04-07-2012
instructing new applicants to only PM Terraria/Minecraft mods.
Why the fuck would we know the Terraria password? Don't make our life fucking harder for us.
Quote from: Ragolution on 05-07-2012
Quote from: ThY on 04-07-2012
instructing new applicants to only PM Terraria/Minecraft mods.
Why the fuck would we know the Terraria password? Don't make our life fucking harder for us.
We thought you guys were psychic, you know, with your ability to somehow always know when Caphori steals something from Aceon.
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-07-2012
I thought I made it clear not to ask anyone but the Caphori Mods for the password.
Feel free to ban them for a week or two if they ask again.
Because it's totally my job to ban players for admins being lazy....
No, I'm already a ban-Nazi. I'm not banning people because Terraria admins don't take initiative to PM the password. What's next? Making players approve their own apps?
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 05-07-2012
Making players approve their own apps?
I now have plans to implement that.
Social groups > Players Get Added To Group By Moderator -> Can see up to date password.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 05-07-2012
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-07-2012
I thought I made it clear not to ask anyone but the Caphori Mods for the password.
Feel free to ban them for a week or two if they ask again.
Because it's totally my job to ban players for admins being lazy....
No, I'm already a ban-Nazi. I'm not banning people because Terraria admins don't take initiative to PM the password. What's next? Making players approve their own apps?
To me, having them PM the Mod who approved them for the password shows who really wants to be a part of Caphori.
Besides, plans are already in the works for updating our Current Applications. Mainly because it feels too easy for trolls/griefers to come through.
And i fucking love that avatar of yours. Just letting you know.
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-07-2012
To me, having them PM the Mod who approved them for the password shows who really wants to be a part of Caphori.
No offense but to me that sounds like, "I just don't want to perform the mundane task of sending a copy/pasted message containing the password." Currently it's just causing problems.
I say that because it's an excuse I'd also make for the same underlying reason if I were feeling lazy in my own work. >_>
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 05-07-2012
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-07-2012
To me, having them PM the Mod who approved them for the password shows who really wants to be a part of Caphori.
No offense but to me that sounds like, "I just don't want to perform the mundane task of sending a copy/pasted message containing the password." Currently it's just causing problems.
I say that because it's an excuse I'd also make for the same underlying reason if I were feeling lazy in my own work. >_>
I don't know why people go out of their way to ask people they shouldn't ask for the password, even though there is a list of people to message on the forums. Its not my fault they decided to go ask the wrong person.
re:lazyness
Go ahead and search any sort of "Terraria Roleplay" in google, we obviously must be doing something right if we have links on page 1. It's not YOUR guys's job to run it, its my team that does it.
The fact HGN comes up after that search is nothing to do with individual server progress, I believe you're just one of a very small list of roleplay servers for Terraria which is correctly set up and organised.
Quote from: ThY on 06-07-2012
The fact HGN comes up after that search is nothing to do with individual server progress, I believe you're just one of a very small list of roleplay servers for Terraria which is correctly set up and organised.
then why change if our system works.
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
Quote from: ThY on 06-07-2012
The fact HGN comes up after that search is nothing to do with individual server progress, I believe you're just one of a very small list of roleplay servers for Terraria which is correctly set up and organised.
then why change if our system works.
Because it
doesn't actually work?
You're spending more time an effort defending your laziness than it would take to just send the bloody PM or invite the people to a group. But hey, if you want us to ban everyone who asks about Terraria's password because you want to make them do the work that's fine too.
I never asked you to ban anyone, that was your guys's own idea. What I did say though is that they have to be really something to not be able to follow simple instructions. We'll revise the system at a later date possibly.
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
I never asked you to ban anyone, that was your guys's own idea. What I did say though is that they have to be really something to not be able to follow simple instructions. We'll revise the system at a later date possibly.
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-07-2012
I thought I made it clear not to ask anyone but the Caphori Mods for the password.
Feel free to ban them for a week or two if they ask again.
Wasn't my idea, but it's one way of dealing with it. Please do revise the system. It is NOT the players' responsibility to PM for the password.
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
I never asked you to ban anyone, that was your guys's own idea. What I did say though is that they have to be really something to not be able to follow simple instructions. We'll revise the system at a later date possibly.
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-07-2012
I thought I made it clear not to ask anyone but the Caphori Mods for the password.
Feel free to ban them for a week or two if they ask again.
Wasn't my idea, but it's one way of dealing with it. Please do revise the system. It is NOT the players' responsibility to PM for the password.
Says who exactly and when?
You're all retarded.
Why the FUCK can't the person who approves the app PM them the password?
IT SOLVES EVERYTHING AND TAKES ALL OF FIVE FUCKING SECONDS AND PRE-COMPILED COPY-PASTED MESSAGE.
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
You're all retarded.
Why the FUCK can't the person who approves the app PM them the password?
IT SOLVES EVERYTHING AND TAKES ALL OF FIVE FUCKING SECONDS AND PRE-COMPILED COPY-PASTED MESSAGE.
This is what we proposed
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Spades_Neil on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
I never asked you to ban anyone, that was your guys's own idea. What I did say though is that they have to be really something to not be able to follow simple instructions. We'll revise the system at a later date possibly.
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-07-2012
I thought I made it clear not to ask anyone but the Caphori Mods for the password.
Feel free to ban them for a week or two if they ask again.
Wasn't my idea, but it's one way of dealing with it. Please do revise the system. It is NOT the players' responsibility to PM for the password.
Says who exactly and when?
Only says ThY, Spades, and a majority of your admins and a few of your playerbase. NO BIG DEAL AT ALL
Quote from: ThY on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
You're all retarded.
Why the FUCK can't the person who approves the app PM them the password?
IT SOLVES EVERYTHING AND TAKES ALL OF FIVE FUCKING SECONDS AND PRE-COMPILED COPY-PASTED MESSAGE.
This is what we proposed
THEN WHY IS THIS STILL AN OPEN TOPIC
HOLY FUCK STEVEN GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS.
AND BEFORE YOU SAY
"PEOPLE WHO ARE TOO STUPID TO READ A MESSAGE SHOULDN'T BE IN TERRARIA"
THEN YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG
THAT'S THE POINT OF APPLICATIONS YOU FUCK.
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
You're all retarded.
Why the FUCK can't the person who approves the app PM them the password?
IT SOLVES EVERYTHING AND TAKES ALL OF FIVE FUCKING SECONDS AND PRE-COMPILED COPY-PASTED MESSAGE.
I love you sometimes, Rag.
This is exactly what I'm trying to say.
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
THAT'S THE POINT OF APPLICATIONS YOU FUCK.
fuck all im on vacation, i don't even know why rag or any of you have access to these forums, talk to James Almasy as I already posted my loa notice
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
fuck all im on vacation, i don't even know why rag or any of you have access to these forums, talk to James Almasy as I already posted my loa notice
Give the position to someone else. You clearly can't be assed to do your job normally if you can't do a simple policy change while you're having a 'leave of absence'. Grow the fuck up; You run the server, it's expected you run it well or let someone else do it.
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
fuck all im on vacation, i don't even know why rag or any of you have access to these forums, talk to James Almasy as I already posted my loa notice
Give the position to someone else. You clearly can't be assed to do your job normally if you can't do a simple policy change while you're having a 'leave of absence'. Grow the fuck up; You run the server, it's expected you run it well or let someone else do it.
I'm trying to do it. I suck at it, I can admit that. Hopefully I can obtain some of your Mod wisdom.
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
fuck all im on vacation, i don't even know why rag or any of you have access to these forums, talk to James Almasy as I already posted my loa notice
Give the position to someone else. You clearly can't be assed to do your job normally if you can't do a simple policy change while you're having a 'leave of absence'. Grow the fuck up; You run the server, it's expected you run it well or let someone else do it.
lol ragolution, why would I change a system that works. I don't see any flaws in Caphori right now besides people pming the wrong people (like I said before there may be something wrong with people unable to follow a procedure correctly) I'm not going to be spoonfeeding all of these people who apply, there are so many of them. If they really want to join the community, it shows initiative if they actually go out and seek the password.
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
fuck all im on vacation, i don't even know why rag or any of you have access to these forums, talk to James Almasy as I already posted my loa notice
Give the position to someone else. You clearly can't be assed to do your job normally if you can't do a simple policy change while you're having a 'leave of absence'. Grow the fuck up; You run the server, it's expected you run it well or let someone else do it.
lol ragolution, why would I change a system that works. I don't see any flaws in Caphori right now besides people pming the wrong people (like I said before there may be something wrong with people unable to follow a procedure correctly) I'm not going to be spoonfeeding all of these people who apply, there are so many of them. If they really want to join the community, it shows initiative if they actually go out and seek the password.
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Resign.
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
fuck all im on vacation, i don't even know why rag or any of you have access to these forums, talk to James Almasy as I already posted my loa notice
Give the position to someone else. You clearly can't be assed to do your job normally if you can't do a simple policy change while you're having a 'leave of absence'. Grow the fuck up; You run the server, it's expected you run it well or let someone else do it.
lol ragolution, why would I change a system that works. I don't see any flaws in Caphori right now besides people pming the wrong people (like I said before there may be something wrong with people unable to follow a procedure correctly) I'm not going to be spoonfeeding all of these people who apply, there are so many of them. If they really want to join the community, it shows initiative if they actually go out and seek the password.
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Resign.
I still don't know why you're here flaming to put a point across that we've already known about for a while.
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would not read your posts ever again
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Ragolution on 06-07-2012
Quote from: Steven :D on 06-07-2012
fuck all im on vacation, i don't even know why rag or any of you have access to these forums, talk to James Almasy as I already posted my loa notice
Give the position to someone else. You clearly can't be assed to do your job normally if you can't do a simple policy change while you're having a 'leave of absence'. Grow the fuck up; You run the server, it's expected you run it well or let someone else do it.
lol ragolution, why would I change a system that works. I don't see any flaws in Caphori right now besides people pming the wrong people (like I said before there may be something wrong with people unable to follow a procedure correctly) I'm not going to be spoonfeeding all of these people who apply, there are so many of them. If they really want to join the community, it shows initiative if they actually go out and seek the password.
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Resign.
I still don't know why you're here flaming to put a point across that we've already known about for a while.
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would not read your posts ever again
Why I am "flaming" is because the system
doesn't work. Go ahead and pretend it does, but it really doesn't. The HGN forums are pretty confusing if only because the Terraria and Minecraft sections are on the very bottom, out of view.
Use the fucking applications to filter out the idiots-
HGN is not your personal quality control filter. You have an application system for a fucking reason. If you're so fucking colic over a simple thing like this, you're obviously trolling the ever-living fuck out of me or there's something wrong with you.
Several admins have complained about people PMing them for the password and either someone's out there trolling everyone or you're doing something wrong. If it takes a fucking thread, and three administrators screaming at you to even get you to THINK about changing this, there is clearly much awry and you're not suited for your administrative position.
I think I'll leave your bullshit elitist "I'm-better-than-HGN" attitude out of this because it's extremely evident no amount of arguing and complaining will motivate you to be competent and run your fucking server.
Rag hit the nail on the head. Several times.
James, Steven - I've been with the server for 2 weeks, and I have been interviewing it's players and admins. The system is a problem, and so is both of your activity. A simple PM of the password from those who accept the app will fix the system, however I might apply for supervisor so I can sort out in-server issues while you two go AFK - atleast then we cover another timezone.
Quote from: ThY on 07-07-2012
Rag hit the nail on the head. Several times.
James, Steven - I've been with the server for 2 weeks, and I have been interviewing it's players and admins. The system is a problem, and so is both of your activity. A simple PM of the password from those who accept the app will fix the system, however I might apply for supervisor so I can sort out in-server issues while you two go AFK - atleast then we cover another timezone.
so you suddenly return and say "this shit sucks i should be in charge"
no.
The system works, the only thing that may change is the fact admins PM the players for the password.
I never said incharge. Scared of loosing power much?
QuoteThe system works
How many people will it take to persuade you otherwise? Be realistic
It's you vs everyone else.
You're on your ownDo you want me to get the admins and players to sign a petition then formally post it to you for consideration?
Steven I like you and all, but i'm just talking on behalf of most of your playerbase, five admins and two forum mods. You need to listen rather shrug all these things away.
Quote from: ThY on 07-07-2012
I never said incharge. Scared of loosing power much?
You've had nothing to do with Terraria and then all of a sudden decide to take interest, for reasons I could care less about. I already just said that the problem will be looked in to. Why are you guys still attempting to decapitate me after I already confirmed this.
Quote from: ThY on 07-07-2012
It's you vs everyone else. You're on your own
If I'm not counted among them, I should be. I'm siding with ThY on this, primarily because you've decided to drop any vestige of real leadership in favor of acting a twit. Its funny, because any other time I would have LIKED having someone above me on the Caphori food chain who did jack-all on the server or forums. I find it makes it EASIER to do my job.
But someone who does jack-all on the forums, on the server, and uses any and all posts he makes to both make Caphori look bad and wave his cock at his peers? I can't get behind a person like that.
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Quote from: Steven :D on 07-07-2012
Quote from: ThY on 07-07-2012
I never said incharge. Scared of loosing power much?
You've had nothing to do with Terraria and then all of a sudden decide to take interest, for reasons I could care less about. I already just said that the problem will be looked in to. Why are you guys still attempting to decapitate me after I already confirmed this.
The problem has been "looked into" 5 times publicly. I doubt you were even active for them. Maybe if you
were active, you would of noticed i've taken a
large interest in Terraria in the recent weeks.
Anyhow to keep it back on topic. Can admins please who accept apps PM the password to the player?
Quote from: ThY on 07-07-2012
Can admins please who accept apps PM the password to the player?
Yes.