Poll
Question:
Should the Caphori world map be reset?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 15
Option 2: No
votes: 2
Option 3: Maybe
votes: 0
I've been an active member of the Caphori server for a long time now, or at least I like to think it's been a long time, and I've seen it go through a lot of changes. I've seen amazing builds, chatted with amazing players, and, all around, have had a pretty fantastic time. However, I've also been on actively enough to realize that the current physical state of the server map has really taken a nosedive.
It started off small: People complaining about not finding crystal hearts as easily or about the scarcity of copper Then, it got progressively worse. There was less silver, than iron, and even elss copper. The dungeon was emptied, then started being raided for its walls and bricks and settled to the point of being pretty unrecognizable from the surface unless someone happens to drop down the large pit (which is pretty indistinguishable from the other random, large pits you might find on the server). Buildings were erected, then left, then raided and left dilapidated and empty and as absolutely amazing as some of the larger builds like Einherjar, Gemcross, the full town of Mideel's Creek, and the Pirate Ship are...the majority of them have essentially been abandoned. and the rest of the map is pretty much in the same state.
People join the server and can't find places to build homes and have to search, back and forth, along a limited amount of space on the map because either there's already a building there or they're too worried about breaking some IC law by building within the extensive and needlessly large land claimed by factions that don't really do anything anymore. Nowadays, some of the huge places get griefed and they're fixed but a lot of the time I can't help but wonder why when no one's going to use it.
There is a wilderness server that has been started to fix the issues with finding minerals, but that only fixes one problem. All of them could be solved at once by taking one (albeit drastic) measure: Resetting the map and starting from scratch.
I am sure this idea isn't popular to a lot of veterans of Caphori, namely the people who actually put time into creating some of the more amazing builds. I'm one of them. I put a hell of a lot of time into creating Gemcross and the castle in Mideel's Creek. I do realize, however, that they can be rebuilt. As for the smaller homes: It's just sad. A lot of them are really beautiful, but having a server full of beautiful, empty building just makes it feel...sad. Even a little abandoned.
At any rate, I'll hold off on the rest of my blathering for now. I'm putting up a poll. Vote and let me know what you think about this idea.
Edit: Please try to actually COMMENT and let me know what you think, even if it's short. Poll's don't tell the whole story.
I'm all for it. If anything it will allow for newer people to create their houses without worry. We are also in need of factions so if you feel like gathering up people in a steam conversation of even here on the forums and have around three people then feel free to make a thread.
The reason why I voted yes is because I've seen the state the map is in and it looks nothing like how it did when it was first created.
I'm gonna say Yes. While some buildings do look nice, the state of Caphori is less than ideal, and it's even messy. I believe starting from scratch would be beneficial.
Although, I'd wait for Kamimala's view on the matter. I know she kinda reserved 1/8th of the map for her little castle thing.
I don't know.... maybe.... I'll think about my decision later, because maybe is for half-asses.
Quote from: Crow793 on 05-10-2011
I'm gonna say Yes. While some buildings do look nice, the state of Caphori is less than ideal, and it's even messy. I believe starting from scratch would be beneficial.
Although, I'd wait for Kamimala's view on the matter. I know she kinda reserved 1/8th of the map for her little castle thing.
Kami isn't the only person losing a huge build by resetting the server. If the majority of players agree that the server does in fact need to be reset, then that's what needs to happen whether she wants to lose the Reach or not. Same thing goes for the Shark Fin Pirates AND for me.
huh. my only question is could we bring whatever we had from the old server to the new server?
A lot of people have been discussing an event happening, mainly a demon invasion, destroying the 'Old' Caphori and we rebuild the 'New' Caphori in the terrible aftermath. I am not 100% sure though.
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-10-2011
huh. my only question is could we bring whatever we had from the old server to the new server?
Definitely. If the server is reset, you can bring anything you got while on the old server, or the wilderness server, to the new one.
Quote from: Velspera on 05-10-2011
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-10-2011
huh. my only question is could we bring whatever we had from the old server to the new server?
Definitely. If the server is reset, you can bring anything you got while on the old server, or the wilderness server, to the new one.
I mean would it be alright to hold said items on my own server. This also may be a problem itself.
I.e. people trying to sneak things in, which may be temporarily doused by having a wilderness server.
Quote from: James Almasy on 07-10-2011
Quote from: Velspera on 05-10-2011
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-10-2011
huh. my only question is could we bring whatever we had from the old server to the new server?
Definitely. If the server is reset, you can bring anything you got while on the old server, or the wilderness server, to the new one.
I mean would it be alright to hold said items on my own server. This also may be a problem itself.
I.e. people trying to sneak things in, which may be temporarily doused by having a wilderness server.
The items we are the most concerned about being snuck onto the server are all accounted for and resetting the server won't really change anything about that. They still have to validly prove that they were able to make, or trade for, high tier items before they are allowed to use them and they still need permission to use shadow keys before they can open chests to get the rarer items.
If someone is sneaking on building materials or one or two crystal hearts, that's really not something we can do anything about in the first place since they are far more common than things like the dark lance, sunfury, etc. We already know who owns those items so sneaking something like that on would only result in getting a strike against them.
When it comes to items you currently have stored on the Caphori server: I would suggest everyone take all of their things onto an SP world and hold them there until the map is reset and the server is officially up again. Otherwise, it will just be wiped along with everything else on the old map.
If you're not able to actually go retrieve your items before the map is wiped, I'd suggest asking someone trustworthy to get them for you and hold them until you are able to come back.
Quote from: Velspera on 07-10-2011
Quote from: James Almasy on 07-10-2011
Quote from: Velspera on 05-10-2011
Quote from: James Almasy on 05-10-2011
huh. my only question is could we bring whatever we had from the old server to the new server?
Definitely. If the server is reset, you can bring anything you got while on the old server, or the wilderness server, to the new one.
I mean would it be alright to hold said items on my own server. This also may be a problem itself.
I.e. people trying to sneak things in, which may be temporarily doused by having a wilderness server.
The items we are the most concerned about being snuck onto the server are all accounted for and resetting the server won't really change anything about that. They still have to validly prove that they were able to make, or trade for, high tier items before they are allowed to use them and they still need permission to use shadow keys before they can open chests to get the rarer items.
If someone is sneaking on building materials or one or two crystal hearts, that's really not something we can do anything about in the first place since they are far more common than things like the dark lance, sunfury, etc. We already know who owns those items so sneaking something like that on would only result in getting a strike against them.
When it comes to items you currently have stored on the Caphori server: I would suggest everyone take all of their things onto an SP world and hold them there until the map is reset and the server is officially up again. Otherwise, it will just be wiped along with everything else on the old map.
If you're not able to actually go retrieve your items before the map is wiped, I'd suggest asking someone trustworthy to get them for you and hold them until you are able to come back.
Since it looks like its going to win.... I want everyone who has a rare item ( Rank 3 or above ) To post it here. ( If you don't know what item ranks in terraria are, go look it up. )
Ivy whip.
Feral claws.
Rocket boots.
And i think that's it
Quote from: Lord_Blair on 07-10-2011
Since it looks like its going to win.... I want everyone who has a rare item ( Rank 3 or above ) To post it here. ( If you don't know what item ranks in terraria are, go look it up. )
On Gustavis: Feral Claws, Rocket Boots, Demon Scythe
On Stanton Dowd: Rocket Boots
I've never seen the map and probably won't for a while, but from what I've seen in many posts it sounds like its been mined down to a few ores here and there. Also the building situation sounds insane to.... probably only space left underground to what I've read. I voted yes on this, but only because after all the information I've collected it seems that I might not want to see this constructed land.
So if anyone complains that I voted even though I have not been accepted onto the server yet, [Probably due to issues with my character]. Then please know I put time into this before I voted. Also I'm either expecting most of you to either be like "O.O Ok...... [Don't really care....]" or "Hey you voted! We should scrap this vote! Its not fair now a nooooob voted! [Is an ass]"
Quote from: Dungeon_Lord on 08-10-2011
I've never seen the map and probably won't for a while, but from what I've seen in many posts it sounds like its been mined down to a few ores here and there. Also the building situation sounds insane to.... probably only space left underground to what I've read. I voted yes on this, but only because after all the information I've collected it seems that I might not want to see this constructed land.
So if anyone complains that I voted even though I have not been accepted onto the server yet, [Probably due to issues with my character]. Then please know I put time into this before I voted. Also I'm either expecting most of you to either be like "O.O Ok...... [Don't really care....]" or "Hey you voted! We should scrap this vote! Its not fair now a nooooob voted! [Is an ass]"
Just because you haven't been accepted yet doesn't mean your vote doesn't count.
Ok, thats nice to know. Because I was on this one server which never accepted me because there list was full so they never counted my vote in voting matters. It was a bit frustrating.
Quote from: James Almasy on 07-10-2011
Ivy whip.
Feral claws.
Rocket boots.
And i think that's it
Adding something. Found Feral claws the other day.
Tier 3 items:
Jungle Set, Nature's Gift, Anklet of Wind and Feral Claws.
Light's bane
Shadow armour
And i think that's it.
Also i think that there should not be a town like mideel's creek made straight away. But for players to make houses at spawn which they have made not that others have. This will make it so there are no un owned buildings lying around and maybe after the village becomes more established a castle or fort can be made. This will give the feel of actually finding a land to settle in not joining and going. "Oh look a huge castle and city" You can't make up a ic reason you just appeared in this city because everyone just can't spawn in town and not know anything about it. Problems with letting people building there own homes can lead to problems also like "No ones here so im going to make myself a huge mansion" The houses will have to be reasonably sized not huge mansions. To avoid this people could mine the area around them to create the town e.g you find a forest you chop it down make a small hut. It will be annoying to join server for first time to find someone has already ass pulled lots of stone and has made huge castle like house. Thats just my opinoin though and lots of people have other ones. But i am voting for yes as it should be reset due to know ores and has to many abandoned buildings.
Quote from: INA7HAN on 09-10-2011
Light's bane
Shadow armour
And i think that's it.
Tier 3 are items with orange names. Light's Bane and Shadow Armor have Blue names, so they're Tier 1.
http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Rarity (http://terraria.wikia.com/wiki/Rarity)
Rocket boots.
I think that a lot of the buildings in the current world are great and beautiful...., but almost all of Caphori is statues and pretty buildings, which is unrealistic to this time period and rpg realm. So I think there should be more small houses and not just like a billion random ones made by one person. But like make a small house, then over time to be more realistic add onto it and don't make random statues and pretty things everywhere. Also a town is usually made out of a bunch of small housing and should be made by a group of people that decide to have a society. I also noticed that mideel's creek is mostly buildings like churches and so on, which in my opinion there should be more houses and less large buildings that don't get used.
Quote from: Dungeon_Lord on 09-10-2011
I think that a lot of the buildings in the current world are great and beautiful...., but almost all of Caphori is statues and pretty buildings, which is unrealistic to this time period and rpg realm. So I think there should be more small houses and not just like a billion random ones made by one person. But like make a small house, then over time to be more realistic add onto it and don't make random statues and pretty things everywhere. Also a town is usually made out of a bunch of small housing and should be made by a group of people that decide to have a society. I also noticed that mideel's creek is mostly buildings like churches and so on, which in my opinion there should be more houses and less large buildings that don't get used.
Did you read my post because you have just pretty much mentioned what i said? lol
Basically. Just said it my own way. XD
Quote from: INA7HAN on 09-10-2011
Light's bane
Shadow armour
And i think that's it.
Also i think that there should not be a town like mideel's creek made straight away. But for players to make houses at spawn which they have made not that others have. This will make it so there are no un owned buildings lying around and maybe after the village becomes more established a castle or fort can be made. This will give the feel of actually finding a land to settle in not joining and going. "Oh look a huge castle and city" You can't make up a ic reason you just appeared in this city because everyone just can't spawn in town and not know anything about it. Problems with letting people building there own homes can lead to problems also like "No ones here so im going to make myself a huge mansion" The houses will have to be reasonably sized not huge mansions. To avoid this people could mine the area around them to create the town e.g you find a forest you chop it down make a small hut. It will be annoying to join server for first time to find someone has already ass pulled lots of stone and has made huge castle like house. Thats just my opinoin though and lots of people have other ones. But i am voting for yes as it should be reset due to know ores and has to many abandoned buildings.
Though I do like pretty things and have a habit of getting carried away with building them, I'd have to agree with this. :3 Maybe we can bring in some community spirit this wayl.
I've used a little of my resources to try to fix up caphori. go take a look, and see if it looks slightly better.
Quote from: James Almasy on 12-10-2011
I've used a little of my resources to try to fix up caphori. go take a look, and see if it looks slightly better.
Dude, you did an amazing job, and the entire server looks great.. but that's not the whole issue. The real issue is it's become a giant clusterfudge of random buildings, most of which are abandoned by players who logged in, built them, and then never logged on again.
Quote from: RoyRoger05 on 12-10-2011
Quote from: James Almasy on 12-10-2011
I've used a little of my resources to try to fix up caphori. go take a look, and see if it looks slightly better.
Dude, you did an amazing job, and the entire server looks great.. but that's not the whole issue. The real issue is it's become a giant clusterfudge of random buildings, most of which are abandoned by players who logged in, built them, and then never logged on again.
Tell me the names of some buildings you want me to tear down. Two i've seen that i could tear down. Elias's house, and the dwelling of khalakal, or however it's spelled. I just wanna know if the people who own these still play.
Also, there's Isaki's Place... I really hope she comes back, because i really don't want to tear that down.
Can't fix everything bro, you could try I guess, but we still have other issues to deal with:
1. Fudged up terrain, holes everywhere.
2. The dungeon is a giant hole in the ground
3. Stupid things built to simulate bridges that are just platforms that somebody slapped down to cross a gap.
4. The grefier coming back, there is one on the loose ATM, and we don't know who he is so Vels or Blair can't ban him/her
Quote from: RoyRoger05 on 13-10-2011
Can't fix everything bro, you could try I guess, but we still have other issues to deal with:
1. Fudged up terrain, holes everywhere.
2. The dungeon is a giant hole in the ground
3. Stupid things built to simulate bridges that are just platforms that somebody slapped down to cross a gap.
4. The grefier coming back, there is one on the loose ATM, and we don't know who he is so Vels or Blair can't ban him/her
Suggestion of changing the password... Again?
I think they're doing that when they reset the server.
Quote from: Velspera on 10-10-2011
Quote from: INA7HAN on 09-10-2011
Light's bane
Shadow armour
And i think that's it.
Also i think that there should not be a town like mideel's creek made straight away. But for players to make houses at spawn which they have made not that others have. This will make it so there are no un owned buildings lying around and maybe after the village becomes more established a castle or fort can be made. This will give the feel of actually finding a land to settle in not joining and going. "Oh look a huge castle and city" You can't make up a ic reason you just appeared in this city because everyone just can't spawn in town and not know anything about it. Problems with letting people building there own homes can lead to problems also like "No ones here so im going to make myself a huge mansion" The houses will have to be reasonably sized not huge mansions. To avoid this people could mine the area around them to create the town e.g you find a forest you chop it down make a small hut. It will be annoying to join server for first time to find someone has already ass pulled lots of stone and has made huge castle like house. Thats just my opinoin though and lots of people have other ones. But i am voting for yes as it should be reset due to know ores and has to many abandoned buildings.
Though I do like pretty things and have a habit of getting carried away with building them, I'd have to agree with this. :3 Maybe we can bring in some community spirit this wayl.
Thank you for agreeing :)
So, now we wait...
...
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While i'm waiting, i shall take a delightful stroll through Caphori.
Hmmmm.... If I was at my dad's house I'd do the same.
While I poured much time and energy into Minarra's Reach, I do recognize that it is only a game and that the effort used to make it can be expended again. It also would be unfair for me to vote against, when I am currently unable to access Steam at all.
I'm not gone- just AWOL- but Minarra's Reach can always go the way of The Bionic Man.
Quote from: Kamimaia on 30-10-2011
While I poured much time and energy into Minarra's Reach, I do recognize that it is only a game and that the effort used to make it can be expended again. It also would be unfair for me to vote against, when I am currently unable to access Steam at all.
I'm not gone- just AWOL- but Minarra's Reach can always go the way of The Bionic Man.
Definitely agreed. It's an AMAZING build, but you can build another place, probably 10x better than the reach is right now (if that's even possible).
Also: http://www.terrariaonline.com/threads/terraria-texturepacks.39026/ (http://www.terrariaonline.com/threads/terraria-texturepacks.39026/)
You can use the Terraria Texture Pack application to run Terraria and bypass using Steam. You don't have to actually install any texture packs to actually use the program, either. Just follow the directions (which is as simple as putting the actual application into the terraria folder and running it). This is essentially what I've been doing for months since Steam can be a real whore, especially when you don't have an internet connection.
I figure it'll be a short while till the next update comes out- I'm just going to try it then, and once that's done it'll save me a lot of issues and headaches.
Plus, I can build much faster than before- considering I /technically/ don't have to mine my own materials. The new location can be out-of-the-way and twice as glorious.
Did we ever find that sonuvabitch griefer?
It would be kool to make something kooler, but it would be good if you could maybe make it like over a long period of time so it would be more rpable. Like slowly build it up or make scallfolding then add stuff slowly. Just stuff to make it seem more realistic.
IT IS CURRENTLY BEING RESET! Make up your ideas on how you escaped from the apocalypse of Old Caphori and/or make new characters.
Quote from: Lord_Blair on 05-11-2011
IT IS CURRENTLY BEING RESET! Make up your ideas on how you escaped from the apocalypse of Old Caphori and/or make new characters.
Really 0.o
Reset, new world, new lives. Enjoy.
Here is the basics of the map, for your enjoyment.
Dungeon: To the left, currently guarded by skeletron
Jungle: To the right, it has a corruption almost right in the middle.
Corruption: There are 3-4 biomes, 2 to the right, 1-2 to the left ( I have really bad memory. )
Sky Islands: Unknown for the time being.
Shadow Chests: Unknown for the time being.
tiny tim living in the sunlight lyrics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF4RCOcz9ow#)
Lol on video and I don't think my character has really been implemented into the Caphori world yet, so I'd probably just be fine as a wanderer who stumbled on New Caphori.
Please be advised that there is currently a problem with placing and removing items on the new server. For instance, you can place items like chests, beds, tables, etc, but when you go to pick them up by using your hammer they will simply BREAK rather than dropping for you to retrieve back into your inventory. This goes for all PLACED items, including crystal hearts, AND for vases as well as they will not drop items when you break them.
You can explore the server, but keep this in mind when you are running about because there is a chance that if you put something down you will NOT get it back again and, as I am warning you, I don't plan on creating replacements for people.
Also, until this problem is resolved, DO NOT GO IN THE DUNGEON. DO NOT FIGHT SKELETRON. DO NOT EVEN -SPEAK- TO THE OLD MAN. I don't want anyone going inside and screwing something up with the treasure inside, so the dungeon is currently off limits. If ANYONE goes into the dungeon and I find out, you WILL get a strike.
Eliventor said he killed Skeletorn with Trist last night.
I witnessed this statement as well.
What? Was this AFTER I said not to?
Why is killing Skeletron the first thing people fucking do?
EDIT: Until the new server is fixed, go to the Wilds if you want to search for Crystal Hearts or run through the dungeon. I'll make sure the server is up and running a little more often than before. Once the new server IS fixed, however, there will be no more wilds as there won't be a need for it. And no, I will not reset the Wilds if the dungeon has been ransacked to hell.