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Title: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Pink! on 02-02-2011
I greatly miss the experience it offered, and I wish it could once more become active.

Is it possible?
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Duranblackraven on 02-02-2011
Because...it's pre-alpha...? And boreing. Those two things in one kinda makes it empty.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Ravanger on 02-02-2011
True as well rules and content still flying around like madness. Stuff changeing by the second etc.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Dug on 02-02-2011
Give it some time.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 02-02-2011
Because im currently busy in real life and don't have time to work on it.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: nKe on 03-02-2011
real life?
i dunno... wut is dat?
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Turkey on 03-02-2011
Quote from: Nik3 on 03-02-2011
real life?
i dunno... wut is dat?

Real is good graphics
A Life is something you will never have.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: darkzerxx on 03-02-2011
Quote from: Turkey on 03-02-2011
Quote from: Nik3 on 03-02-2011
real life?
i dunno... wut is dat?

Real is good graphics
A Life is something you will never have.
May I say pwned? And also From what I been hearing and seeing, this new Rp should be amazing when everything works out.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Pink! on 04-02-2011
One does not need authorizations and rules to savor the experience. Simply hop on and enjoy simple peasant roleplay, and you'll be surprised.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 04-02-2011
Quote from: Pink! on 04-02-2011
One does not need authorizations and rules to savor the experience. Simply hop on and enjoy simple peasant roleplay, and you'll be surprised.

Some people thought that acting as a peasant was not for them and wanted to be wizards, dragon warriors, kings and such. Which is why i stated "no" to idea's people were dragging out of their arse or ones that were posted a year ago. By all means go roleplay a peasant.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: OBrian on 04-02-2011
Quote from: Last.Exile on 04-02-2011
Quote from: Pink! on 04-02-2011
One does not need authorizations and rules to savor the experience. Simply hop on and enjoy simple peasant roleplay, and you'll be surprised.

Some people thought that acting as a peasant was not for them and wanted to be wizards, dragon warriors, kings and such. Which is why i stated "no" to idea's people were dragging out of their arse or ones that were posted a year ago. By all means go roleplay a peasant.

I'm getting rather annoyed that you keep bringing up "wizards" Silver. I made a group application that was accepted by the appropriate administration at the time.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Duranblackraven on 04-02-2011
Welcome to Crussaria. An RP to let your imagination go wild! Full of dark forces battleing good, knights fighting for your freedom! Now that you're roped in go ahead and forget that. You're only allowed to be a mindless drone. Hah, thought you'd actually be able to do something fun...ahahah...hah.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: darkzerxx on 04-02-2011
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 04-02-2011
Welcome to Crussaria. An RP to let your imagination go wild! Full of dark forces battleing good, knights fighting for your freedom! Now that you're roped in go ahead and forget that. You're allowed allowed to be a mindless drone. Hah, thought you'd actually be able to do something fun...ahahah...hah.
Sounds like every game that ends up being one of the worst games of the year.
Flashy pictures and videos don't mean anything if the game sucks in the end.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Ravanger on 04-02-2011
Anyways people like said before its in alpha or whatever. So dont expect the most perfect experience known to man of Gayevial roleplay.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Cutch on 04-02-2011
Quote from: darkzerxx on 04-02-2011
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 04-02-2011
Welcome to Crussaria. An RP to let your imagination go wild! Full of dark forces battleing good, knights fighting for your freedom! Now that you're roped in go ahead and forget that. You're allowed allowed to be a mindless drone. Hah, thought you'd actually be able to do something fun...ahahah...hah.
Sounds like every game that ends up being one of the worst games of the year.
Flashy pictures and videos don't mean anything if the game sucks in the end.
Who are you?
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Pink! on 05-02-2011
But... if everyone roleplayed powerful characters, where would the joy be?
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Turkey on 05-02-2011
Quote from: Pink! on 05-02-2011
But... if everyone roleplayed powerful characters, where would the joy be?

This.

I am pretty sure if exile just made the script, left the cannon alone things would be fine. Player groups would handle magic, and you could just make a mage roster that requires to be apply'd and auth'd for. like female characters.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Ravanger on 05-02-2011
Well I mean what do you expect,its a young roleplay of course people are gonna try there limits away.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 05-02-2011
Quote from: Turkey on 05-02-2011
Quote from: Pink! on 05-02-2011
But... if everyone roleplayed powerful characters, where would the joy be?

This.

I am pretty sure if exile just made the script, left the cannon alone things would be fine. Player groups would handle magic, and you could just make a mage roster that requires to be apply'd and auth'd for. like female characters.

That's how it was and we were all happy and I don't think anyone had any problems with Cutch being the Baron dude or O'Brian and me having magic characters or Turkey being the anti-magic group.

The lack of a script or items is not what is holding it back.

At the risk of getting banned again (which would be very hypocritical since the like 8 posts after the one I posted that got me a 2 day ban said the same thing and none of those people got their posts deleted/banned) that was how it was going before the edict. Most of those "powerful" characters were from players like O'Brian and myself and we had our shit together and auth'd by the original Crussaria admin team A YEAR AGO. We didn't just asspull all this and decide "we're going to be unkillable badasses and all other players need to suck our dicks". Which is why we're upset. I know O'Brian spent hours getting his wizard shit in order and then to use it for a week and have fun with it and then be told "sorry you can't any more" shouldn't surprise anyone at all that it pissed him off. My character was the same way. The reason we're pissed is not because we have delusions of grandeur and want to power game, it's that we put the effort in, got told we could do this, and then after seemingly endless "Project canceled, project on hold, project not happening" it finally does come out and all our work is negated. And then it dies again and we're all back at square one. It isn't rocket science as to why we'd be pissed.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Turkey on 05-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 05-02-2011
Quote from: Turkey on 05-02-2011
Quote from: Pink! on 05-02-2011
But... if everyone roleplayed powerful characters, where would the joy be?

This.

I am pretty sure if exile just made the script, left the cannon alone things would be fine. Player groups would handle magic, and you could just make a mage roster that requires to be apply'd and auth'd for. like female characters.

That's how it was and we were all happy and I don't think anyone had any problems with Cutch being the Baron dude or O'Brian and me having magic characters or Turkey being the anti-magic group.

The lack of a script or items is not what is holding it back.

At the risk of getting banned again (which would be very hypocritical since the like 8 posts after the one I posted that got me a 2 day ban said the same thing and none of those people got their posts deleted/banned) that was how it was going before the edict. Most of those "powerful" characters were from players like O'Brian and myself and we had our shit together and auth'd by the original Crussaria admin team A YEAR AGO. We didn't just asspull all this and decide "we're going to be unkillable badasses and all other players need to suck our dicks". Which is why we're upset. I know O'Brian spent hours getting his wizard shit in order and then to use it for a week and have fun with it and then be told "sorry you can't any more" shouldn't surprise anyone at all that it pissed him off. My character was the same way. The reason we're pissed is not because we have delusions of grandeur and want to power game, it's that we put the effort in, got told we could do this, and then after seemingly endless "Project canceled, project on hold, project not happening" it finally does come out and all our work is negated. And then it dies again and we're all back at square one. It isn't rocket science as to why we'd be pissed.

Fuck, I also thought it would be badass to have anti magic groups fighting mages. Already had some great RP fun on the server.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Tom on 05-02-2011
Exile got pissed when people got pissed about Fallout being canceled. I understand why O'Brain, and the people who where looking forward to FO coming out are angry, cause Crussaria is Just like Fallout in the sense that apparently its another one of those projects that has been "Coming out soon in two weeks" for three or more years. I've said it once and Ill say it again, he needs to understand that promising a product release date on a specific date, Like FO "Being out by Christmas" and then eventually falling through on it, not only pisses off the consumer but tarnishes your reputation and your reliability. Not to mention that FO/Crussaria has been promised on various dates and eventually "Delayed" due to any amount of reasons on multiple occasions. You may be thinking "Why is he discussing the Cancellation of FORP?". Good question. I am discussing it cause it appears as though the same thing has happened to crussaria in a different way. In this case people thought they would be allowed to RP the Mage characters/Mage hunter characters that they where waiting to RP for a while, Think of it as a promised game feature for a game. But later on the Head of the Community decided that, this was not good, and that a ton of people "Asspulling shit to be Knights and mages was stupid as fuck" So he implemented a ton of shit, and said "No more" the people who where RPing the chars that they had been wanting to RP for a year or two, suddenly had their characters Voided cause of the lack of normal folks, to be hounest their where lots of normal folks, but they where not doing peasant jobs. There where 4-5 mages total, and only 1-3 Mage hunters (Though I wish the mage hunters where more discrete about their dealings), Needless to say, even with the mages and witch hunters it was fun. It became a situation afterward, where the only "Fun" was in the Tavern, or in the few and far between Events. This was the problem.

So the "Lack of content" argument does not work in the sense that, we had 20+ people on the crussaria when there was NO content.

Though I will admit O'Brain over-reacted slightly, and that it was said that Mages would be allowed back in a couple weeks after the Edict was made. Then again his exact words where "When the Beta comes out" Which may not come out for months if we are lucky.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 06-02-2011
After this week i am free for awhile to work on projects before i move onto my programming course and my new career job. Crussaria is still my main focus point but when i think about Fallout it's pretty much all there apart from a lack of playermodels which "blake" still has not given me. Crussaria needs alot of work to set the parameters to stop said "lol knights" "lol mages" and "lol kings" appearing. The current main flaw with Crussaria atm though is the map. Ive spent countless hours already looking for maps but to no such luck. Ralazo is working on a map at the momment and ill probably do some work on part of a map soon.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: mikeywrenn on 06-02-2011
Could somebody give me the IP address? I feel stupid because I can't find it..
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Mrtasker on 06-02-2011
What wrong with the current map? I think its great.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 06-02-2011
It's "too small" apparently. And I think there might be some logic in that since when the server is actually up Exile wants 4 Houses going. But for now it's fine.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Nargotah on 06-02-2011
Quote from: Last.Exile on 06-02-2011
After this week i am free for awhile to work on projects before i move onto my programming course and my new career job. Crussaria is still my main focus point but when i think about Fallout it's pretty much all there apart from a lack of playermodels which "blake" still has not given me. Crussaria needs alot of work to set the parameters to stop said "lol knights" "lol mages" and "lol kings" appearing. The current main flaw with Crussaria atm though is the map. Ive spent countless hours already looking for maps but to no such luck. Ralazo is working on a map at the momment and ill probably do some work on part of a map soon.

So um, do you like, read the posts? You know, that people are asking about? The multiple paragraphs asking you why people can't use their characters from a year ago?
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: mikeywrenn on 06-02-2011
What's the IP?
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Duranblackraven on 06-02-2011
You don't get to join it unless you're a veteran donator, or Last.Exile gives you permission. So stop spamming that.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: mikeywrenn on 06-02-2011
Oh right, that pretty much explains why the server's active then..
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 06-02-2011
Quote from: mikeywrenn on 06-02-2011
Oh right, that pretty much explains why the server's active then..

It actually was when people could use their characters, it was far more active than SRP was for a good 2 weeks with just donators on. So uh...if you don't know the story you probably shouldn't post.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: OBrian on 06-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 06-02-2011
Quote from: mikeywrenn on 06-02-2011
Oh right, that pretty much explains why the server's active then..

It actually was when people could use their characters, it was far more active than SRP was for a good 2 weeks with just donators on. So uh...if you don't know the story you probably shouldn't post.

That.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 06-02-2011
Quote from: Mrtasker on 06-02-2011
What wrong with the current map? I think its great.

You think of Crussaria as some small tiny project. One server, one map and nothing really going on besides some people roleplaying.

That's not what Crussaria is. Eventually i plan to have multiple servers rigged up on large scale maps. It's more so rpg than roleplay because the script will handle most things. This is not a duplicate of olden or something that has been done before.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Tom on 06-02-2011
Then if its an RPG I want nothing to do with it. Ill just play WoW or any of the other dozens of RPGs out there
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Mrtasker on 06-02-2011
Quote from: Tom on 06-02-2011
Then if its an RPG I want nothing to do with it. Ill just play WoW or any of the other dozens of RPGs out there

This, I don't want to play an RPG. I come to HGN for roleplay, I can play an RPG fantasy game anywhere.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: OBrian on 06-02-2011
Quote from: Mrtasker on 06-02-2011
Quote from: Tom on 06-02-2011
Then if its an RPG I want nothing to do with it. Ill just play WoW or any of the other dozens of RPGs out there

This, I don't want to play an RPG. I come to HGN for roleplay, I can play an RPG fantasy game anywhere.

This.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 06-02-2011
Quote from: Tom on 06-02-2011
Then if its an RPG I want nothing to do with it. Ill just play WoW or any of the other dozens of RPGs out there

As ive stated many times before it's not going to be like wow or any crappy mmorpg which require no skill. Crussaria will not have a leveling  up system. But nor will it be a small map on one server with just roleplay as it's core element. It will have these rpg features to enhance the world and provide management and features and help outline what the player can and cannot do.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Mrtasker on 06-02-2011
Thats all well and good but, the essense of quality roleplay is freedom. With all these RPG'ish limitations the quality of the roleplay will drop because things that could be easliy roleplayed would be replaced by these "features".

When the alpha first started up, we had around 15 peope most days I think. Bare bones script and a lot of Freedom, the RP in that was really good. I don't mean to sound like i'm bitching, but the more roleplay elements you suppliment with fancy scripts or whatever, the less people will feel that RP is a necessity.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Pink! on 06-02-2011
Actually, I disagree. If I understand correctly, the script and restrictions will force people to work, significantly, in acquiring the powers and armor they need to become a skilled character.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 06-02-2011
No one wants to grind for 50+ hours to develop the "skills" they need to play their character. Or at least everyone I know doesn't. Plus stats inherently lead to powergaming which is never fun since people go "My HP is 500001305010013050130531050130130 so I can shrug off getting stabbed in the back and then whirl around and kill you". Which makes RP really, really stupid. It's bad enough that on STALKER back in the day people who had certain armors were acting like bullets suddenly didn't hurt, I don't want MORE legitimacy given to people who want to powergame balantly. Freedom is why we RP, there a bunch of professionally coded games that would give us number crunching far more satisfactorily than anything Gmod could do.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Tom on 07-02-2011
I don't mind working for swords and armor. But The way Magic is currently set up where you are born with it and you are trained from a young age. (O'Brians group) I don't think they'd have difficulty casting simple spells. Also, to "Work" for magic what would one do? Surely you don't plan on making it a buyable attribute, or a stat that you can farm by doing some action 101491240912 times. In short some things are okay to work for, other things should be left to be done freely. then again, I do have to say I enjoyed the 100% freedom that one had in the very begining that only a small few disliked.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: OBrian on 07-02-2011
Quote from: Tom on 07-02-2011
I don't mind working for swords and armor. But The way Magic is currently set up where you are born with it and you are trained from a young age. (O'Brians group) I don't think they'd have difficulty casting simple spells. Also, to "Work" for magic what would one do? Surely you don't plan on making it a buyable attribute, or a stat that you can farm by doing some action 101491240912 times. In short some things are okay to work for, other things should be left to be done freely. then again, I do have to say I enjoyed the 100% freedom that one had in the very begining that only a small few disliked.

Exactly. Some things I understand need to be grinded as Silver wants, like swordsmanship and craftsmanship but some things need to be left alone, for example, magic, werewolves and vampires. I don't want to seem like a self-promoting bastard but if we simply stick to my group and a few others whom apply for magic-users with an inordinate number of administrator reccomendations (Perhaps require an Community Supervisor recco or Cutch/Silvers?) then that will effectively solve the magic issue and lay Silvers fear of "Lolmages" to rest.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Tom on 08-02-2011
Indeed. Making Mage a Farm able attribute (Horrible idea) would do one of two things. Waste YOUR time coding cause no one will use it but that one guy who has way too much time to devote to farming, and he will become very powerful OOCly/ICly even though he is a fucking peasant. Or B you will have 381983098 "Mages" running around cause they are all powerful and have "Worked" for their skill (AKA Fired magic missiles at a rock for 1414 Hours)
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 08-02-2011
People cannot do magic. You have to unlock it first and it takes years of training to get it to a good level. You will have to choose a dominate spell set. There are two traits that will effect your spells. These will be set by admins.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Tom on 08-02-2011
Thats basically what we do now. Minus the Stats. We have people who hunt the hated mages. And mages unlocked their abilities a while ago. Essentially what O'Brian has going right now. The only thing is we need Admin monitoring, and if you'd like SWEPS that can be given to Mages then do so.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Steven :D on 08-02-2011
Quote from: Tom on 08-02-2011
Thats basically what we do now. Minus the Stats. We have people who hunt the hated mages. And mages unlocked their abilities a while ago. Essentially what O'Brian has going right now. The only thing is we need Admin monitoring, and if you'd like SWEPS that can be given to Mages then do so.
The inquisitors strike again!
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: OBrian on 09-02-2011
Quote from: Tom on 08-02-2011
Thats basically what we do now. Minus the Stats. We have people who hunt the hated mages. And mages unlocked their abilities a while ago. Essentially what O'Brian has going right now. The only thing is we need Admin monitoring, and if you'd like SWEPS that can be given to Mages then do so.

Works out great for everyone :)
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 09-02-2011
Quote from: Tom on 08-02-2011
Thats basically what we do now. Minus the Stats. We have people who hunt the hated mages. And mages unlocked their abilities a while ago. Essentially what O'Brian has going right now. The only thing is we need Admin monitoring, and if you'd like SWEPS that can be given to Mages then do so.
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When I talked abbout traits. Its just stats. Actually gaining and using magic will be done via script. Besides magic is not a high priority to crussarias development. Meaning it wont be part of it for ages to come after it goes public.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 15-02-2011
Maybe it's inactive because people have to pay 20 dorrah just to get in? Just a theory.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 15-02-2011
It's a bad theory because the server had 20+ people on it every day for two weeks when it first came out and it has always been donator access only.

And your use of the word "jew" isn't called for. I would edit your post before Tom or Cutch or someone smacks you for racism.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Turkey on 15-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 15-02-2011
It's a bad theory because the server had 20+ people on it every day for two weeks when it first came out and it has always been donator access only.

And your use of the word "jew" isn't called for. I would edit your post before Tom or Cutch or someone smacks you for racism.

Jew is not a racist word. My parents are jewish and they don't mind using the name Jew, unless he said something like "DIRTY FUCKING JEWS"
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 15-02-2011
True but when you use it to mean "pay" that is offensive.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Pink! on 15-02-2011
We should run a traditional peasant-only event. Like... a festival. Maybe a lord shows up for a few moments to make a speech, but for the most part, everyone has to play commoners and passive and it'll be fun.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 15-02-2011
It's a bad theory because the server had 20+ people on it every day for two weeks when it first came out and it has always been donator access only.

It is not a bad theory because no theories can be bad; I digress.

If one were to increase usage of a service, one would decrease the price of said service in order for a broader audience to use it. You can't disagree with this logic because it's absolutely true, hence my point.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
Theories can be bad easily. If I said "I theorize that the Sun revolves around the Earth" you would probably tell me I was wrong because it flies in the face of scientific knowledge.

Since the server USED TO BE VERY POPULATED even at the current price point (and most people didn't donate FOR access to it, they already had donator status and got to play it) it would be safe to call your theory incorrect as we have already seen proof of numerous qualified (by qualified I mean people who donated) players that wanted to play before. And now they don't for some reason. There were 10ish on last week when the character ban was first lifted but since then it's been empty. The reason for it being empty now is probably not because of it being closed alpha.

Pink's probably on the right track with the lack of events.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
Theories can be bad easily. If I said "I theorize that the Sun revolves around the Earth" you would probably tell me I was wrong because it flies in the face of scientific knowledge.

A theory cannot be "bad" per se. It can be wrong, but not bad.

Anyway, maybe people aren't playing because medieval roleplay is boring as fuck and has been done all the time???
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
I would say that wrong = bad but if that is not how you see it then whatever.

If that's your view on medieval RP than why do you care why it's empty in the first place?

Name another Gmod Medieval RP server (that isn't full of furries ala Aria/Olden). I don't know where your "done all the time" statement comes from, and find it ironic that you say "It's boring because it's done all the time" when you play SRP (arguably as boring) which has had no fewer than 6 other servers (3 of which are still running right now) running it in the past/present (Minedog, The Zone RP.net, Paradox, TnB, the people who used to do it at TnB and stole TnB's script and founded their new community,  Anomaly RP, HGN (duh) etc).
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
why do you care why it's empty in the first place?

I don't. I just inserted a red herring to win the argument that I created for the sole purpose of winning.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: jaik on 16-02-2011
Anomaly RP is dead for a while now.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
It isn't convincing when Socrates did it and it's not convincing now.

And Jake that isn't a list of servers that are still up. Minedog and the ZoneRP have been dead for like 3 years now. We all know that. Which I said in my post "which has had no fewer than 6 other servers (3 of which are still running right now)" implying that only 3 of the listed ones are still going. lrn2read.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
Socrates

I discredit Socrates a lot. He's so dumb.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
It's more Plato I have the problem with (finished the Republic recently, wanted to murder him) but Socrates invented that method of argument so yeah.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011but Socrates invented that method of argument so yeah.

Which I was doing long before I learned of it.

He invented it like Columbus invented America.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
Yet it is not referred to as "Eroticduckic argument" it is "Socratic Argument". Not knowing of something doesn't suddenly mean when you discover it you're the original inventor. Socrates was known for being a master arguer and therefore people associate that type of argument with him. Which is to say he popularized it. Which is probably about as close to inventing a method of speech as one can get short of actually inventing speech or argument.

The reason we say "Columbus discovered America" was not that he was the first but because he made Europe want to go there. Which led to the United States and all that shit. Whereas the Vikings didn't do uch other than get there first. Which is an accomplishment in itself but knowledge is only useful if people who can make use of said knowledge know of it.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 16-02-2011
Exactly my point.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
Really? It seemed like your point earlier was how Socrates offered nothing to ancient society because you used his methods before you knew of him. Which would make you either extremely ignorant or extremely arrogant. Good that we are more or less on the same page.

Now someone get Crussaria populated.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Nargotah on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
Really? It seemed like your point earlier was how Socrates offered nothing to ancient society because you used his methods before you knew of him. Which would make you either extremely ignorant or extremely arrogant. Good that we are more or less on the same page.

Now someone get Crussaria populated.


Okay, Eroticduck is a fucking terrible troll. And you just fell for it. Come on, man.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: eroticduck on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Nargotah on 16-02-2011
Okay, Eroticduck is a fucking terrible troll.

shut up :(
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Silver Knight on 16-02-2011
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
It isn't convincing when Socrates did it and it's not convincing now.

And Jake that isn't a list of servers that are still up. Minedog and the ZoneRP have been dead for like 3 years now. We all know that. Which I said in my post "which has had no fewer than 6 other servers (3 of which are still running right now)" implying that only 3 of the listed ones are still going. lrn2read.

...And our srp server has been alive for longer than 3 years. That makes us better than any competition that comes up. But please stay on track. This is Crussaria not Stalker.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-02-2011
...And that has absolutely nothing to do with the content of that post at all.
Title: Re: Why is Crussaria Inactive?
Post by: Cutch on 16-02-2011
Locking the thread. No more knowledge can be obtained from this thread, therefor it is now useless.