Well, Fire away people.
It was discussed many times, HGN doesn't do any adverts anywhere, people don't really have any way to see this server, unless they encounter it in game ( And seeing it 0/45 doesn't help anyhow)
Advertising never helps. People just flame us away because.
HGN
Quote from: Tom on 25-06-2013Advertising never helps. People just flame us away because. HGN
How did we even managed to get such a horrible reputation?
Quote from: knife_cz on 25-06-2013How did we even managed to get such a horrible reputation?
Because e-drama and lack of leadership.
Developing the script instead of STURR WURRSSS RP
Vote was biased as it did not include admins being inactive as the cause of srp's issues.
Proof: Rarr and reorp got on and other players got on yesterday.
Admins get off, players get off. See the correlation of that trend? Blaming the lack of "updates" to the script as a reason why you won't do your job is sheer lazyness. I am willing to work on the script if the admins stop moaning about "developing" the script as a excuse number one priority issue of srp and get active.
Quote from: SilverKnight on 25-06-2013
Vote was biased as it did not include admins being inactive as the cause of srp's issues.
Proof: Rarr and reorp got on and other players got on yesterday.
Admins get off, players get off. See the correlation of that trend? Blaming the lack of "updates" to the script as a reason why you won't do your job is sheer lazyness. I am willing to work on the script if the admins stop moaning about "developing" the script as a excuse number one priority issue of srp and get active.
When was the last time SRP got an update?
How about you follow some simple steps.
1) Develop the script further, no-ones gonna play with shit apart from Ethiopians. You want more players? Fix what you broke!
2) Advertise it more, how do you expect people to come and find out about your shit if you don't smear it across a couple of windows first?
3) Make it more accessible and less complicated. I'd have more ease of pick-up-and-play if I bricked a window, climbed through and fiddled with an infant whilst it slept.
4) Don't edit the polls because 'Oh, my public doesn't like it; I'll twist history'. Hitler did that, and you know what? He was a bad man. Fucking sort out your shit or go build a fucking Autobahn, Exile.
- My work here is done
Bates
Quote from: SilverKnight on 25-06-2013Vote was biased as it did not include admins being inactive as the cause of srp's issues. Proof: Rarr and reorp got on and other players got on yesterday. Admins get off, players get off. See the correlation of that trend? Blaming the lack of "updates" to the script as a reason why you won't do your job is sheer lazyness. I am willing to work on the script if the admins stop moaning about "developing" the script as a excuse number one priority issue of srp and get active.
I blame the not-so-appealing look of SRP.
Look at the top RP mods and shit, they have good looking menus, good maps, etc.
Look at SRP:
-Annoying SVN shit
-Welcome message from 2004
-The "raditation script" logo looks like it was put together from pieces of newspaper.
-current map's fucking shit, first thing you see after spawnarea is two fucking hills and a road.
-New people are treated like shit. I remember seeing non-geared peeps get kicked out from event because of circlejerk and gear huheuheu
-"Dont know anything about STALKER lore? Fuck you" - Server
-These forums
-No storyline
Hell, I currently enjoy Gmod cinema more than SRP, because it actually looks good.
Quote from: SilverKnight on 25-06-2013Vote was biased as it did not include admins being inactive as the cause of srp's issues. Proof: Rarr and reorp got on and other players got on yesterday. Admins get off, players get off. See the correlation of that trend? Blaming the lack of "updates" to the script as a reason why you won't do your job is sheer lazyness. I am willing to work on the script if the admins stop moaning about "developing" the script as a excuse number one priority issue of srp and get active.
Look at the maps and promised Star Wars roleplay, its raining from the sky!
Quote from: Bates on 25-06-2013How about you follow some simple steps. 1) Develop the script further, no-ones gonna play with shit apart from Ethiopians. You want more players? Fix what you broke! 2) Advertise it more, how do you expect people to come and find out about your shit if you don't smear it across a couple of windows first? 3) Make it more accessible and less complicated. I'd have more ease of pick-up-and-play if I bricked a window, climbed through and fiddled with an infant whilst it slept. 4) Don't edit the polls because 'Oh, my public doesn't like it; I'll twist history'. Hitler did that, and you know what? He was a bad man. Fucking sort out your shit or go build a fucking Autobahn, Exile. - My work here is done Bates
What makes you think the development i did on the script as a simple step? That's hours of blood, sweat and tears.
1. The scripts in a playable state and like previous scripts it can always have more work done. But right now i am considering if i should waste my time developing when srp might be on it's way to "flop" out like Crussaria ergo- wasting time on developing something no one wants anymore.
2. If you think advertising is and easy feat, why not advertise on our behalf.
3. Agreed but you do not backup your statement with suggestions.
4. The poll was biased in that it did not list admins as a root\core problem, which indeed, it very much is. Comparing me to Hitler is rather far-fetched and rude, you won't ear brownie points for that Terry Spicer.
Quote from: SilverKnight on 25-06-2013
Quote from: Bates on 25-06-2013How about you follow some simple steps. 1) Develop the script further, no-ones gonna play with shit apart from Ethiopians. You want more players? Fix what you broke! 2) Advertise it more, how do you expect people to come and find out about your shit if you don't smear it across a couple of windows first? 3) Make it more accessible and less complicated. I'd have more ease of pick-up-and-play if I bricked a window, climbed through and fiddled with an infant whilst it slept. 4) Don't edit the polls because 'Oh, my public doesn't like it; I'll twist history'. Hitler did that, and you know what? He was a bad man. Fucking sort out your shit or go build a fucking Autobahn, Exile. - My work here is done Bates
What makes you think the development i did on the script as a simple step? That's hours of blood, sweat and tears.
1. The scripts in a playable state and like previous scripts it can always have more work done. But right now i am considering if i should waste my time developing when srp might be on it's way to "flop" out like Crussaria ergo- wasting time on developing something no one wants anymore.
2. If you think advertising is and easy feat, why not advertise on our behalf.
3. Agreed but you do not backup your statement with suggestions.
4. The poll was biased in that it did not list admins as a root\core problem, which indeed, it very much is. Comparing me to Hitler is rather far-fetched and rude, you won't ear brownie points for that Terry Spicer.
1. Saying it is in playable state is like saying that atleast this food doesn't kill you. You can do better, others can and are doing better, so why waste time with this shit. It's going to hell because it's just plain bad
2. This is your job, you own this shit and you better run it, or hire someone else to do it. Telling people to do your job for free wont work, it'll make you look like an ass.
3. Make it more like the old script
4. It isn't the admins fault when our script is horrible compared to any other RP, we're at the same level as fucking darkRP scriptwise. (Except shit in there works usually. In here we have broken food and drink system, energy drinks don't restore energy, ammo doesn't save, the inventory is an unintuitive PoS, playerlist looks bad and isn't categorized like it used to be with faction members and loners separated etc. there's just so much of this stuff, instead of fixing THESE you made shit like DONATOR WEAPOOOONSSSS)
Quote from: Gonztah on 25-06-2013
1. Saying it is in playable state is like saying that atleast this food doesn't kill you. You can do better, others can and are doing better, so why waste time with this shit. It's going to hell because it's just plain bad
2. This is your job, you own this shit and you better run it, or hire someone else to do it. Telling people to do your job for free wont work, it'll make you look like an ass.
3. Make it more like the old script
4. It isn't the admins fault when our script is horrible compared to any other RP, we're at the same level as fucking darkRP scriptwise. (Except shit in there works usually. In here we have broken food and drink system, energy drinks don't restore energy, ammo doesn't save, the inventory is an unintuitive PoS, playerlist looks bad and isn't categorized like it used to be with faction members and loners separated etc. there's just so much of this stuff, instead of fixing THESE you made shit like DONATOR WEAPOOOONSSSS)
Sadly this is the truth. If everything we've got in the server right now was fixed, I would be more than happy to play. We don't need new features or weapons. We already have almost everything we need (Faction flags would be nice), but these features are either buggy, or just look hideous.
I dont want this thread to turn into "Bash Silverknight" thread, but the fact is that you deserve this. You abandoned the players, and started relying on admins.
Quote from: SilverKnight on 25-06-2013
Quote from: Bates on 25-06-2013How about you follow some simple steps. 1) Develop the script further, no-ones gonna play with shit apart from Ethiopians. You want more players? Fix what you broke! 2) Advertise it more, how do you expect people to come and find out about your shit if you don't smear it across a couple of windows first? 3) Make it more accessible and less complicated. I'd have more ease of pick-up-and-play if I bricked a window, climbed through and fiddled with an infant whilst it slept. 4) Don't edit the polls because 'Oh, my public doesn't like it; I'll twist history'. Hitler did that, and you know what? He was a bad man. Fucking sort out your shit or go build a fucking Autobahn, Exile. - My work here is done Bates
What makes you think the development i did on the script as a simple step? That's hours of blood, sweat and tears. 1. The scripts in a playable state and like previous scripts it can always have more work done. But right now i am considering if i should waste my time developing when srp might be on it's way to "flop" out like Crussaria ergo- wasting time on developing something no one wants anymore. 2. If you think advertising is and easy feat, why not advertise on our behalf. 3. Agreed but you do not backup your statement with suggestions. 4. The poll was biased in that it did not list admins as a root\core problem, which indeed, it very much is. Comparing me to Hitler is rather far-fetched and rude, you won't ear brownie points for that Terry Spicer.
good idea, shut down everything and focus only on minecraft/terraria, because that appears to be the only alive thing here
You aren't even trying to make yourself look that you /care/ about srp, do you?
Quote from: Nik3 on 25-06-2013Quote from: Gonztah on 25-06-20131. Saying it is in playable state is like saying that atleast this food doesn't kill you. You can do better, others can and are doing better, so why waste time with this shit. It's going to hell because it's just plain bad 2. This is your job, you own this shit and you better run it, or hire someone else to do it. Telling people to do your job for free wont work, it'll make you look like an ass. 3. Make it more like the old script 4. It isn't the admins fault when our script is horrible compared to any other RP, we're at the same level as fucking darkRP scriptwise. (Except shit in there works usually. In here we have broken food and drink system, energy drinks don't restore energy, ammo doesn't save, the inventory is an unintuitive PoS, playerlist looks bad and isn't categorized like it used to be with faction members and loners separated etc. there's just so much of this stuff, instead of fixing THESE you made shit like DONATOR WEAPOOOONSSSS)
Sadly this is the truth. If everything we've got in the server right now was fixed, I would be more than happy to play. We don't need new features or weapons. We already have almost everything we need (Faction flags would be nice), but these features are either buggy, or just look hideous. I dont want this thread to turn into "Bash Silverknight" thread, but the fact is that you deserve this. You abandoned the players, and started relying on admins.
It's not my job to admin, never has and never will be. The script is not at a darkrp level, theres many serious rp features that we did not have in radiationscript 1 - 3. Your comparing this script i managed to develop in 3-4 months to nexus aka kuromeku shit which he has developed over 3 years (kuroscript, nexus, openaura, blueprint, clockwork etc). Not sure if i should be offended or happy with the comparrison.
At this rate nothing will happen and SRP will STAY at 0/45
Quote from: SilverKnight on 25-06-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 25-06-2013
Quote from: Gonztah on 25-06-20131. Saying it is in playable state is like saying that atleast this food doesn't kill you. You can do better, others can and are doing better, so why waste time with this shit. It's going to hell because it's just plain bad 2. This is your job, you own this shit and you better run it, or hire someone else to do it. Telling people to do your job for free wont work, it'll make you look like an ass. 3. Make it more like the old script 4. It isn't the admins fault when our script is horrible compared to any other RP, we're at the same level as fucking darkRP scriptwise. (Except shit in there works usually. In here we have broken food and drink system, energy drinks don't restore energy, ammo doesn't save, the inventory is an unintuitive PoS, playerlist looks bad and isn't categorized like it used to be with faction members and loners separated etc. there's just so much of this stuff, instead of fixing THESE you made shit like DONATOR WEAPOOOONSSSS)
Sadly this is the truth. If everything we've got in the server right now was fixed, I would be more than happy to play. We don't need new features or weapons. We already have almost everything we need (Faction flags would be nice), but these features are either buggy, or just look hideous. I dont want this thread to turn into "Bash Silverknight" thread, but the fact is that you deserve this. You abandoned the players, and started relying on admins.
It's not my job to admin, never has and never will be. The script is not at a darkrp level, theres many serious rp features that we did not have in radiationscript 1 - 3. Your comparing this script i managed to develop in 3-4 months to nexus aka kuromeku shit which he has developed over 3 years (kuroscript, nexus, openaura, blueprint, clockwork etc). Not sure if i should be offended or happy with the comparrison.
Never said it was your job to admin, you have people to do that, I said that you shouldn't tell people who have legit complaints to do it themselves, you're the one running this community basically. And like I said this script IS darkRP level, there may be serious RP features we didn't have before but it's a shame they're buggy or hideous like Nke said, even the basic stuff. And it baffles me why they remained like that while you were off creating donator weapons or starting a new project. You need to focus on improving SRPs script, don't bother with blaming/supervising the admins or monitoring the forums, there are people doing this already. Just fix the script up and keep working on it.
Quote from: Tom on 25-06-2013At this rate nothing will happen and SRP will STAY at 0/45
^^ Nothing more to it.
Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Tom on 25-06-2013At this rate nothing will happen and SRP will STAY at 0/45
^^ Nothing more to it.
you're really helpin' spin the ol' cogs, aren't you
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Tom on 25-06-2013At this rate nothing will happen and SRP will STAY at 0/45
^^ Nothing more to it.
you're really helpin' spin the ol' cogs, aren't you
Several people talked to sharrock and now think i should develop script without server being active due to no admins getting on to get it active. Just like Crussaria!
Also i like how someone removed the poll from the thread because "Admins getting active" was winning.
Quote from: SilverKnight on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Tom on 25-06-2013At this rate nothing will happen and SRP will STAY at 0/45
^^ Nothing more to it.
you're really helpin' spin the ol' cogs, aren't you
Several people talked to sharrock and now think i should develop script without server being active due to no admins getting on to get it active. Just like Crussaria!
Also i like how someone removed the poll from the thread because "Admins getting active" was winning.
It shows that you modified it last......
Also for fucks sake Silver there are admins on the server, like most of the people ON THE SERVER ARE ADMINS. It's just that we don't have any regular players for the admins to help and SRP with 5 players isn't really that fun. Just keep working on the script so maybe people would join once it's not shite.
When i removed the poll it was pretty much tied. i removed it cause polls are fuckin gay no matter what it is about
Quote from: SilverKnight on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Tom on 25-06-2013At this rate nothing will happen and SRP will STAY at 0/45
^^ Nothing more to it.
you're really helpin' spin the ol' cogs, aren't you
Several people talked to sharrock and now think i should develop script without server being active due to no admins getting on to get it active. Just like Crussaria!
Also i like how someone removed the poll from the thread because "Admins getting active" was winning.
appoint active members as admins
demote inactive admins
???
great success or humiliating failure
When you say "Admins Get Active", How active do you want admins, I sat on Srp for about two hours yesterday. The first hour, No one joined. I then Spoke to a few people, A few got on, and rp'd for around.. 30 Minutes before leaving. The funny thing was, It was Me, Darkscar, and Darkfox who are admins. That meant 3/6 People who were playing Admins, I mean you can't expect an Admin such as darkscar to sit on the server for 4-5 hours on his own, He did that at one point and still no one joined and I do believe some people have better things to do than sit on a server waiting for people to join because it is clear that no one wants to join for their own reasons.
Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013
When you say "Admins Get Active", How active do you want admins, I sat on Srp for about two hours yesterday. The first hour, No one joined. I then Spoke to a few people, A few got on, and rp'd for around.. 30 Minutes before leaving. The funny thing was, It was Me, Darkscar, and Darkfox who are admins. That meant 3/6 People who were playing Admins, I mean you can't expect an Admin such as darkscar to sit on the server for 4-5 hours on his own, He did that at one point and still no one joined and I do believe some people have better things to do than sit on a server waiting for people to join because it is clear that no one wants to join for their own reasons.
I can't speak for the rest of HGN's community, but SRP has become something old to me. The setting offers nothing new to me, and has lost my attention.
SRP is gay, Crussaria woop.
Quote from: Vortigoat on 26-06-2013
SRP is gay, Crussaria woop.
Lol, Crussaria was a big ball of fail.
Atleast it had updates.
Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013When you say "Admins Get Active", How active do you want admins, I sat on Srp for about two hours yesterday. The first hour, No one joined. I then Spoke to a few people, A few got on, and rp'd for around.. 30 Minutes before leaving. The funny thing was, It was Me, Darkscar, and Darkfox who are admins. That meant 3/6 People who were playing Admins, I mean you can't expect an Admin such as darkscar to sit on the server for 4-5 hours on his own, He did that at one point and still no one joined and I do believe some people have better things to do than sit on a server waiting for people to join because it is clear that no one wants to join for their own reasons.
As i already stated, the server does not just get "active" instantly after some downtime due to garry's shit update and prolongued abandonment by admins in the first place. People stop looking to play, they don't check their server browser to see who is on and don't check the forums. It takes time to repair the damage. Also peak times are GMT 8pm+ That's when europeans and americans are on.
Oh man I just came here to see if it was officially dead or what. Seriously, I thought HGN SRP was given up on completely by everyone but you, Exile. Seems there's a few others holding on. Either way, the server had it's downs and ups when I played and honestly, I hold fond (though most are disturbing) memories of HGN.
Many people I speak to have given up on it for numerous reasons I'm not going to try to list here, but for me it was because I had become too "Normal" on the server and people had come to know me and have predetermined expectations, and many were not positive. It's been quite some time since I've played HGN but it still seems like the same old thing I used to play before it completely died when I would come back and visit for a few hours.
New communities hold more interest, if I should put it so bluntly. Make change and maybe people will be interested to return. People will play, even with a shit-tier script, if the story and the players are good enough. On that note, that doesn't bring to mind HGN to be completely honest. I think of a stagnant storyline and decent players. Not enough to make me want to try to resurrect the server with voodoo powers.
So I ask, Exile.. Why do you still hold on to something that seems to be so lost?
Silver. Admins getting active? It'd be nice to appoint active players as administrators in the first place. Reinstating Royz (sorry mang for the example) won't help.
Besides, it'd be nice for CORE features of the script to actually work (eg. player needs). And ammo so that the gearkiddies won't have to spend so much money to have a steady supply of ammunition.
Quote from: lolKieck on 26-06-2013Silver. Admins getting active? It'd be nice to appoint active players as administrators in the first place. Reinstating Royz (sorry mang for the example) won't help. Besides, it'd be nice for CORE features of the script to actually work (eg. player needs). And ammo so that the gearkiddies won't have to spend so much money to have a steady supply of ammunition.
I dunno mang, I feel like we should give Blake another shot.
He was a pretty good admin and active and reasonably appointed in the first place
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Quote from: knife_cz on 26-06-2013Quote from: lolKieck on 26-06-2013Silver. Admins getting active? It'd be nice to appoint active players as administrators in the first place. Reinstating Royz (sorry mang for the example) won't help. Besides, it'd be nice for CORE features of the script to actually work (eg. player needs). And ammo so that the gearkiddies won't have to spend so much money to have a steady supply of ammunition.
I dunno mang, I feel like we should give Blake another shot. He was a pretty good admin and active and reasonably appointed in the first place ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Nah. Dark Angel should be given STSV in my opinion.
Maybe you guys should drop the HGN name and Silver Knight/ Last Exile name.
I still hear about how people hate both, even before they ever visited here. HGN has been terrible reputation behind it, to a point where advertisement anywhere leads to peole flaming HGN.
Also, admins aren't really a problem, it's more of the players themselves. Players should be able to RP on their own with others without needing to cry to an admin or beg them for gear.
Admins shouldn't be the source of RP, the players should.
Events shouldn't be a constant thing each day. I recall when I played, people would ask constantly for an event, and sometimes they begged for good loot.
They also cried when I made the event too hard to get through.
I see the problem stemming from a shit playerbase and a bad reputation.
Sadly you can't improve the playerbase. GMod RPing playerbase is shit in general.
That's why we should drop GMod and try another game.
Why not make ARMA 3 SRP.
Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
That's why we should drop GMod and try another game.
Why not make ARMA 3 SRP.
Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Quote from: lolKieck on 26-06-2013Sadly you can't improve the playerbase. GMod RPing playerbase is shit in general.
Pretty much. Lots of ignorant little children and so many communities sabotaging each other for profit.
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.
haha
you're joking right?
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.
Gmod is more moddable than any arma 3 game which is the only reason gmod is a "success". Arma is more of a semi-casual game that people play. I don't think the arma community is that great either but i have no doubt it's better than gmods community.
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.
haha you're joking right?
No, Gmod is still shit. Maybe if I was still 14 I'd like it. But for any RP purpose, no.
And I only suggest ARMA since they already have a Stalker pack. So it'd be easy to put together. If I gave a shit, I could do it it.
Quote from: Khorn on 27-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.
haha you're joking right?
No, Gmod is still shit. Maybe if I was still 14 I'd like it. But for any RP purpose, no.
And I only suggest ARMA since they already have a Stalker pack. So it'd be easy to put together. If I gave a shit, I could do it it.
yeah, have fun with the post-CoD kids and the teens who play ARMA 3 because they "relly wnt 2 jon th miltry" and simply love the "enhansd relsum"
Ignoring both games playerbases, I'd say that Gmod is more fitting for RP, I remember trying ArmaRP the engine just doesn't fit.
Maxi, you ever play Arma? Cause CoD rejects don't play Arma becuase it's not as fast paced as CoD.
Arma 3 may have improved gun play, but sperging cod kids hate it. And whats this about teens wanting to join the military? If you want to go that way, Gmod caters towards the dumb shit kids that are CoD, CSS and Arma rejects.
And the RP servers may as well be replaced with Gear Servers. I don't suggest Arma as a serious Rp for Stalker, but at least it can sustain itself. They got enough scripts and shit to have mission be created constantly. And if you die, it won't take weeks of sucking admin dick to get gear. Just respawn, shoot a player, take his shit/money, move. And best of all, you don't hear bitching about RDMing or other stupid shit.
yes because making days(talker) in arma will enhance rp, I suppose hgn still wants to be an rp community?
and arma community isnt what it used to be after dayz
Well, the funny thing is, if HGN stays with Gmod, it will never improve. And as for RP, you can find other games.
Or, HGN can finally become what it was described as. I forget where, maybe the steam group page, but HGN was described as more than a clan, but a community where peole lay games together and shit.
Instead Silver rather waste more time on Gmod and trying to make SWRP. If you want to stick to GMod you will probably need to wipe your player base, names, and anything else that connects you to the poor reputation of this place and it's members. At this point, HGN is filled with the worse of the RP communities. Even Hotpocket managed to get a server going with more layers daily than HGN, even if it lasted only a month.
Quote from: Khorn on 28-06-2013
If you want to stick to GMod you will probably need to wipe your player base, names, and anything else that connects you to the poor reputation of this place and it's members. At this point, HGN is filled with the worse of the RP communities.
Cleansing of HGN! Light the fires! Bring the captives! Burn the heretics! Let the galaxy BURRRRN
Quote from: Joemoma on 26-06-2013Make change and maybe people will be interested to return. People will play, even with a shit-tier script, if the story and the players are good enough.
I could go back to my post history and find myself saying that same thing for the past 2+ years. The players are the biggest reason HGN is dead.
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013. Admins shouldn't be the source of RP, the players should.
That to an extent but Events help a lot and they were very, very scarce. A huge part of that was because the players were cunts who would just speed rush through any event set up for gear instead of actually RPing through it and then whine and complain when they got killed or when the reward wasn't what they thought was "Good enough". To be fair to the players I am sure I've made some bad events but the
constant whining isn't an incentive to get better. It's an incentive to stop trying.
This discourages the admins from making events because when the only thing you hear is whining and complaining after Every. Single. Event. You. Make you aren't going to want to keep making them. Whether it was STALKER, Crussaria, or Fallout I can count the number of "thanks for the events" I received on 1 hand (possibly with fingers left over) and would run out of digits trying to quantify the complaints before I even made it through my SRP admining. I know Tom and Khorn have had the exact same problem and I'd bet Spades and some of the other admins probably have, too. If everyone seems to hate your events then the admins aren't going to do them because what's the point of slaving away for 20-30 minutes setting something up just to be bitched at in the end? The players then have no events and get bored and leave. It's not rocket science, it's just very hard to fix. I'd argue it's impossible to fix because it's been a problem in HGN (and probably most other Gmod servers) for a really long time.
I've gone back to text RP for the most part. Steam friends works rather well for that (except they removed /me from it because 12 year olds were getting phished).
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013yeah, have fun with the post-CoD kids and the teens who play ARMA 3 because they "relly wnt 2 jon th miltry" and simply love the "enhansd relsum"
Have you ever actually played ARMA? Yeah if you just go pub up on a random server it's going to be shit. If you actually get with people who are playing it seriously you don't have to deal with that.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 28-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013yeah, have fun with the post-CoD kids and the teens who play ARMA 3 because they "relly wnt 2 jon th miltry" and simply love the "enhansd relsum"
Have you ever actually played ARMA? Yeah if you just go pub up on a random server it's going to be shit. If you actually get with people who are playing it seriously you don't have to deal with that.
yeah i played arma
its a shitty menu fest with plenty of funny glitches and terrible gunplay, slippery controls, and abhorrent gameplay mechanics in the name of "realsum"
So...you wanted COD, you got ARMA, and are complaining it's not COD. OK then.
Quote from: Paintcheck on 28-06-2013
So...you wanted COD, you got ARMA, and are complaining it's not COD. OK then.
assuming things doesn't help your argument
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 28-06-2013Quote from: Paintcheck on 28-06-2013So...you wanted COD, you got ARMA, and are complaining it's not COD. OK then.
assuming things doesn't help your argument
Saying "ARMA IS BAD GUIS ARMA IS BAD GUIS ARMA IS BAD GUIS" over and over and over again doesn't help your arguement sorta like Exile saying "ITS ALL THE ADMINS FAULTS ITS ALL THE ADMINS FAULTS ITS ENTIRLEY THE ADMINS FAULT" doesn't help throw the blame off him or anyone else
Quote from: Tom on 28-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 28-06-2013
Quote from: Paintcheck on 28-06-2013So...you wanted COD, you got ARMA, and are complaining it's not COD. OK then.
assuming things doesn't help your argument
Saying "ARMA IS BAD GUIS ARMA IS BAD GUIS ARMA IS BAD GUIS" over and over and over again doesn't help your arguement sorta like Exile saying "ITS ALL THE ADMINS FAULTS ITS ALL THE ADMINS FAULTS ITS ENTIRLEY THE ADMINS FAULT" doesn't help throw the blame off him or anyone else
the problem with your reasoning tom, is that you fail to acknowledge the points that i made about ARMA.
also, there's a bit of a problem when your realism isn't realistic.
Who the hell in this thread said ARMA was realistic?
Maxi, seriously shut the fuck up. I mentioned ARMA, that's all. Get over your bitch fit about it already.
Quote from: Khorn on 29-06-2013
Maxi, seriously shut the fuck up. I mentioned ARMA, that's all. Get over your bitch fit about it already.
10/10 excellent ad hominem