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Maxi96203

Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013
When you say "Admins Get Active", How active do you want admins, I sat on Srp for about two hours yesterday. The first hour, No one joined. I then Spoke to a few people, A few got on, and rp'd for around.. 30 Minutes before leaving. The funny thing was, It was Me, Darkscar, and Darkfox who are admins. That meant 3/6 People who were playing Admins, I mean you can't expect an Admin such as darkscar to sit on the server for 4-5 hours on his own, He did that at one point and still no one joined and I do believe some people have better things to do than sit on a server waiting for people to join because it is clear that no one wants to join for their own reasons.

I can't speak for the rest of HGN's community, but SRP has become something old to me. The setting offers nothing new to me, and has lost my attention.
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Vortigoat

SRP is gay, Crussaria woop.

Gonztah

Quote from: Vortigoat on 26-06-2013
SRP is gay, Crussaria woop.
Lol, Crussaria was a big ball of fail.

Vortigoat

Atleast it had updates.

Silver Knight

Quote from: Rarr on 26-06-2013When you say "Admins Get Active", How active do you want admins, I sat on Srp for about two hours yesterday. The first hour, No one joined. I then Spoke to a few people, A few got on, and rp'd for around.. 30 Minutes before leaving. The funny thing was, It was Me, Darkscar, and Darkfox who are admins. That meant 3/6 People who were playing Admins, I mean you can't expect an Admin such as darkscar to sit on the server for 4-5 hours on his own, He did that at one point and still no one joined and I do believe some people have better things to do than sit on a server waiting for people to join because it is clear that no one wants to join for their own reasons.

As i already stated, the server does not just get "active" instantly after some downtime due to garry's shit update and prolongued abandonment by admins in the first place. People stop looking to play, they don't check their server browser to see who is on and don't check the forums. It takes time to repair the damage. Also peak times are GMT 8pm+ That's when europeans and americans are on.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Joemoma

Oh man I just came here to see if it was officially dead or what. Seriously, I thought HGN SRP was given up on completely by everyone but you, Exile. Seems there's a few others holding on. Either way, the server had it's downs and ups when I played and honestly, I hold fond (though most are disturbing) memories of HGN.

Many people I speak to have given up on it for numerous reasons I'm not going to try to list here, but for me it was because I had become too "Normal" on the server and people had come to know me and have predetermined expectations, and many were not positive. It's been quite some time since I've played HGN but it still seems like the same old thing I used to play before it completely died when I would come back and visit for a few hours. 

New communities hold more interest, if I should put it so bluntly. Make change and maybe people will be interested to return. People will play, even with a shit-tier script, if the story and the players are good enough. On that note, that doesn't bring to mind HGN to be completely honest. I think of a stagnant storyline and decent players. Not enough to make me want to try to resurrect the server with voodoo powers.

So I ask, Exile.. Why do you still hold on to something that seems to be so lost?

lolKieck

Silver. Admins getting active? It'd be nice to appoint active players as administrators in the first place. Reinstating Royz (sorry mang for the example) won't help.
Besides, it'd be nice for CORE features of the script to actually work (eg. player needs). And ammo so that the gearkiddies won't have to spend so much money to have a steady supply of ammunition.
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Knife_cz

Quote from: lolKieck on 26-06-2013Silver. Admins getting active? It'd be nice to appoint active players as administrators in the first place. Reinstating Royz (sorry mang for the example) won't help. Besides, it'd be nice for CORE features of the script to actually work (eg. player needs). And ammo so that the gearkiddies won't have to spend so much money to have a steady supply of ammunition.
I dunno mang, I feel like we should give Blake another shot.
He was a pretty good admin and active and reasonably appointed in the first place ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


lolKieck

Quote from: knife_cz on 26-06-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 26-06-2013Silver. Admins getting active? It'd be nice to appoint active players as administrators in the first place. Reinstating Royz (sorry mang for the example) won't help. Besides, it'd be nice for CORE features of the script to actually work (eg. player needs). And ammo so that the gearkiddies won't have to spend so much money to have a steady supply of ammunition.
I dunno mang, I feel like we should give Blake another shot. He was a pretty good admin and active and reasonably appointed in the first place ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Nah. Dark Angel should be given STSV in my opinion.
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Khorn

Maybe you guys should drop the HGN name and Silver Knight/ Last Exile name.

I still hear about how people hate both, even before they ever visited here. HGN has been terrible reputation behind it, to a point where advertisement anywhere leads to peole flaming HGN.

Also, admins aren't really a problem, it's more of the players themselves. Players should be able to RP on their own with others without needing to cry to an admin or beg them for gear.
Admins shouldn't be the source of RP, the players should.

Events shouldn't be a constant thing each day. I recall when I played, people would ask constantly for an event, and sometimes they begged for good loot.
They also cried when I made the event too hard to get through.

I see the problem stemming from a shit playerbase and a bad reputation.

lolKieck

Sadly you can't improve the playerbase. GMod RPing playerbase is shit in general.
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Khorn

That's why we should drop GMod and try another game.

Why not make ARMA 3 SRP.

Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.

Maxi96203

Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
That's why we should drop GMod and try another game.

Why not make ARMA 3 SRP.

Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.

god no.
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Silver Knight

Quote from: lolKieck on 26-06-2013Sadly you can't improve the playerbase. GMod RPing playerbase is shit in general.

Pretty much. Lots of ignorant little children and so many communities sabotaging each other for profit.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Khorn

Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.


Better than GMOD shit.

Maxi96203

Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.


Better than GMOD shit.

haha
you're joking right?
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Silver Knight

Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.

Gmod is more moddable than any arma 3 game which is the only reason gmod is a "success". Arma is more of a semi-casual game that people play. I don't think the arma community is that great either but i have no doubt it's better than gmods community.

Quotebreslau: if i cant cheat i dont wanna play
breslau: period

Khorn

Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.
haha you're joking right?

No, Gmod is still shit. Maybe if I was still 14 I'd like it. But for any RP purpose, no.

And I only suggest ARMA since they already have a Stalker pack. So it'd be easy to put together. If I gave a shit, I could do it it.

Maxi96203

Quote from: Khorn on 27-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013
Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013That's why we should drop GMod and try another game. Why not make ARMA 3 SRP. Or a mix of SRP and Wasteland. I'm sure a lot of people would love the shit out of that.
god no.
Better than GMOD shit.
haha you're joking right?

No, Gmod is still shit. Maybe if I was still 14 I'd like it. But for any RP purpose, no.

And I only suggest ARMA since they already have a Stalker pack. So it'd be easy to put together. If I gave a shit, I could do it it.

yeah, have fun with the post-CoD kids and the teens who play ARMA 3 because they "relly wnt 2 jon th miltry" and simply love the "enhansd relsum"
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Gonztah

Ignoring both games playerbases, I'd say that Gmod is more fitting for RP, I remember trying ArmaRP the engine just doesn't fit.

Khorn

Maxi, you ever play Arma? Cause CoD rejects don't play Arma becuase it's not as fast paced as CoD.

Arma 3 may have improved gun play, but sperging cod kids hate it. And whats this about teens wanting to join the military? If you want to go that way, Gmod caters towards the dumb shit kids that are CoD, CSS and Arma rejects.

And the RP servers may as well be replaced with Gear Servers. I don't suggest Arma as a serious Rp for Stalker, but at least it can sustain itself. They got enough scripts and shit to have mission be created constantly. And if you die, it won't take weeks of sucking admin dick to get gear. Just respawn, shoot a player, take his shit/money, move. And best of all, you don't hear bitching about RDMing or other stupid shit.

lolKieck

yes because making days(talker) in arma will enhance rp, I suppose hgn still wants to be an rp community?
and arma community isnt what it used to be after dayz
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Khorn

Well, the funny thing is, if HGN stays with Gmod, it will never improve. And as for RP, you can find other games.

Or, HGN can finally become what it was described as. I forget where, maybe the steam group page, but HGN was described as more than a clan, but a community where peole lay games together and shit.

Instead Silver rather waste more time on Gmod and trying to make SWRP. If you want to stick to GMod you will probably need to wipe your player base, names, and anything else that connects you to the poor reputation of this place and it's members. At this point, HGN is filled with the worse of the RP communities. Even Hotpocket managed to get a server going with more layers daily than HGN, even if it lasted only a month.

Gonztah

Quote from: Khorn on 28-06-2013
If you want to stick to GMod you will probably need to wipe your player base, names, and anything else that connects you to the poor reputation of this place and it's members. At this point, HGN is filled with the worse of the RP communities.
Cleansing of HGN! Light the fires! Bring the captives! Burn the heretics! Let the galaxy BURRRRN

Paintcheck

#49
Quote from: Joemoma on 26-06-2013Make change and maybe people will be interested to return. People will play, even with a shit-tier script, if the story and the players are good enough.  

I could go back to my post history and find myself saying that same thing for the past 2+ years. The players are the biggest reason HGN is dead.

Quote from: Khorn on 26-06-2013. Admins shouldn't be the source of RP, the players should.  

That to an extent but Events help a lot and they were very, very scarce. A huge part of that was because the players were cunts who would just speed rush through any event set up for gear instead of actually RPing through it and then whine and complain when they got killed or when the reward wasn't what they thought was "Good enough".  To be fair to the players I am sure I've made some bad events but the constant whining isn't an incentive to get better. It's an incentive to stop trying.

This discourages the admins from making events because when the only thing you hear is whining and complaining after Every. Single. Event. You. Make you aren't going to want to keep making them. Whether it was STALKER, Crussaria, or Fallout I can count the number of "thanks for the events" I received on 1 hand (possibly with fingers left over) and would run out of digits trying to quantify the complaints before I even made it through my SRP admining. I know Tom and Khorn have had the exact same problem and I'd bet Spades and some of the other admins probably have, too. If everyone seems to hate your events then the admins aren't going to do them because what's the point of slaving away for 20-30 minutes setting something up just to be bitched at in the end? The players then have no events and get bored and leave. It's not rocket science, it's just very hard to fix. I'd argue it's impossible to fix because it's been a problem in HGN (and probably most other Gmod servers) for a really long time.

I've gone back to text RP for the most part. Steam friends works rather well for that (except they removed /me from it because 12 year olds were getting phished).

Quote from: Maxi96203 on 26-06-2013yeah, have fun with the post-CoD kids and the teens who play ARMA 3 because they "relly wnt 2 jon th miltry" and simply love the "enhansd relsum"

Have you ever actually played ARMA? Yeah if you just go pub up on a random server it's going to be shit. If you actually get with people who are playing it seriously you don't have to deal with that.