So what's the situation?

Started by Gonztah, 24-10-2012

0 Members and 18 Guests are viewing this topic.

What map?

Redemption
1 (3.4%)
Garbage
13 (44.8%)
Sector42
4 (13.8%)
Chernobyl
6 (20.7%)
Some other (comment)
5 (17.2%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Tom

We need to divorce the idea that SRP needs to be EXACTLY like the games. Why would using a MP5 be harder than using a L85?
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

Knife_cz

Quote from: Tom on 27-10-2012
Why would using a MP5 be harder than using a L85?
Wait what


Tom

Quote from: INA7HAN on 27-10-2012
Ecologists used L85A1's etc in Shadow Of Chernobyl, never has a Ecologist been seen using an MP5 in any of the three games.

That post implies MP5s are weapons that unskilled fighter cannot use but that L85s are easier for unskilled fighters to use.
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

Gonztah

Quote from: Tom on 27-10-2012
Quote from: INA7HAN on 27-10-2012
Ecologists used L85A1's etc in Shadow Of Chernobyl, never has a Ecologist been seen using an MP5 in any of the three games.

That post implies MP5s are weapons that unskilled fighter cannot use but that L85s are easier for unskilled fighters to use.

He just said that they never used em in the games, nothing about how hard they're to use.

lolKieck

Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 27-10-2012
Also, duty tried killing all of freedom at once when they walked 2 stalkers with like 2023909 pounds of C4 on them into the S24 base. They also assaulted our base with RPGs...The list can go on.
Freedom employed mercenaries to blow up the Duty base, kept raping Duty when a squad was out patrolling, the list can go on Spartans.

Quote from: INA7HAN on 27-10-2012
Ecologists used L85A1's etc in Shadow Of Chernobyl, never has a Ecologist been seen using an MP5 in any of the three games.
These were Ecologist Mercs, not scientists.
░░░░░░░▐▄▀▒▒▀▀▀▀▄▄▄▀▒▒▒▒▒▐
░░░░░▄▄▀▒░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒█▒▒▄█▒▐
░░░▄▀▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒▀██▀▒▌
░░▐▒▒▒▄▄▒▒▒▒░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▀▄▒▒
░░▌░░▌█▀▒▒▒▒▒▄▀█▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒█▒
░▐░░░▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▌██▀▒▒░░░▒▒▒▀ ▌
░▌░▒▄██▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░░░░░░▒▒▒ ▌
▀▒▀▐▄█▄█▌▄░▀▒▒░░░░░░░░░░▒▒ ▐
▐▒▒▐▀▐▀▒░▄▄▒▄▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒▒ ▒▌
▐▒▒▒▀▀▄▄▒▒▒▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒ ▐
░▌▒▒▒▒▒▒▀▀▀▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒░▒▒ ▌
░▐▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒▒▄▒▒
░░▀▄▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒░▒░▒░▒▄▒▒▒▒

D33tly

#105
D33tly's Magnificent Two Cents.

| Make factions a minor-ish part of RP. Making them the major part of the RP gets pretty annoying for Average Joe Stalker |

| Don't fuck over stalkers just because they went out alone. When I went on the SRP server (back when I went on regularly) I would always get fucked by admins who thought "He is lonely, better add an event involving bloodsuckers. Yeah, bloodsuckers, when your alone, most of the time your supposed to play to loose since bloodsuckers are generally better then stalkers with makarovs / Vipers |

| Factions need to give out jobs more, aswell as traders. Give the faction leaders enough to do this per week. Small math equation that could work this out |
| Number of players on the server + 10 x 500 = y x 7 = Answer |
| Example: 15 + 10 x 500 = 12,500 x 7 = 87,500 |
| With this equation, that is 500 rubles for everyone who gets on in a day for a week |

| Less Suckers. More zombies, and dogs, and snorks (Oh my.) |

| During large events, try to allow GR / IRP I went into I think two server events, and I died both times. Each time I got no GR, and only for one of them could I IRP so I could stay in the RP for a bit longer. Allow GR, or at least allow IRP so people have a chance to survive or at least RP a bit more |

All I could come up with right now, inb4 "D33TLY U SO STUPID, Y U NO GO BACK 2 FRP, OH WAIT. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL."

Knife_cz

Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.


Lent23

#107
I said don't be an asshole.
~Tom

"Mommy, when is Daddy coming home?"
"Here, Alex.. Daddy sent us a package.. The soldier told us that it.. might be a while until Daddy's done with his service. Don't worry, you'll see him soon, Alex.."
"He's always gone! I never get to see him!"

D33tly

Quote from: knife_cz on 27-10-2012
Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.
Its not that they kill you, its they kill you ever. time. you. go. out.
You don't have a group of friends to play with? Sorry, please go find another server, we don't allow that kind of passive RP here.
Basically what happens if admins constantly assault lone stalkers with bloodsuckers.
New person joins -> Knows nobody -> Walks around zone -> Gets attaced + killed by bloodsucker -> Ragequits and never comes back -> Low player count for server.

HitMan5523

Quote from: SGT-Spartans on 27-10-2012
Whats with this Freedom bombing duty base?




I blew up like 3 walls in a building because one of your members failed to process me into your " prison ".




Also, duty tried killing all of freedom at once when they walked 2 stalkers with like 2023909 pounds of C4 on them into the S24 base. They also assaulted our base with RPGs...The list can go on.
Bulldog actually. But yea, same thing basically.
I'm hip! What are you talking about!

Gonztah

Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
| Don't fuck over stalkers just because they went out alone. When I went on the SRP server (back when I went on regularly) I would always get fucked by admins who thought "He is lonely, better add an event involving bloodsuckers. Yeah, bloodsuckers, when your alone, most of the time your supposed to play to loose since bloodsuckers are generally better then stalkers with makarovs / Vipers |

| During large events, try to allow GR / IRP I went into I think two server events, and I died both times. Each time I got no GR, and only for one of them could I IRP so I could stay in the RP for a bit longer. Allow GR, or at least allow IRP so people have a chance to survive or at least RP a bit more |

You usually spawn next to a place where you can find other stalkers, talk to them and ask if they want to walk around, most bloodsucker players would rather not attack groups and NPCs are easy to kill or outrun. Also watch your back though because he might be (And most likely is) a bandit.

This I agree with, it's frustrating if you get killed by an NPC because you were typing or some shit and you get no chance at IRP. Though most admins do usually let you back in. Also you really have to consider what NPC killed you as well, a zombie most likely wouldn't bludgeon you to death that fast (Seriously the damage they do on the server is incredible) but a pack of dogs tearing at you or a bloodsucker, well that's a different thing.

INA7HAN

Quote from: Gonztah on 28-10-2012
Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
| Don't fuck over stalkers just because they went out alone. When I went on the SRP server (back when I went on regularly) I would always get fucked by admins who thought "He is lonely, better add an event involving bloodsuckers. Yeah, bloodsuckers, when your alone, most of the time your supposed to play to loose since bloodsuckers are generally better then stalkers with makarovs / Vipers |

| During large events, try to allow GR / IRP I went into I think two server events, and I died both times. Each time I got no GR, and only for one of them could I IRP so I could stay in the RP for a bit longer. Allow GR, or at least allow IRP so people have a chance to survive or at least RP a bit more |

This I agree with, it's frustrating if you get killed by an NPC because you were typing or some shit and you get no chance at IRP.
I've been killed so many times in events for typing things like actions or telling someone something it's like the number one killer on all events.



SRP: Nicolai 'Thunder' Lagunov - Loner - Alive

nKe

Basically everyone knows what's wrong and have idea how to fix things but nothing gets done...
Wonder where the problem is...

Knife_cz

#113
Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 27-10-2012
Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.
Its not that they kill you, its they kill you ever. time. you. go. out.
You don't have a group of friends to play with? Sorry, please go find another server, we don't allow that kind of passive RP here.
Basically what happens if admins constantly assault lone stalkers with bloodsuckers.
New person joins -> Knows nobody -> Walks around zone -> Gets attaced + killed by bloodsucker -> Ragequits and never comes back -> Low player count for server.
That is such a bullshit, you are saying like that happens daily.
It doesn't.
How many times have you even played on srp? This is complete nonsense you are talking. It just doesn't heppen.


D33tly

Quote from: knife_cz on 28-10-2012
Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 27-10-2012
Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.
Its not that they kill you, its they kill you ever. time. you. go. out.
You don't have a group of friends to play with? Sorry, please go find another server, we don't allow that kind of passive RP here.
Basically what happens if admins constantly assault lone stalkers with bloodsuckers.
New person joins -> Knows nobody -> Walks around zone -> Gets attaced + killed by bloodsucker -> Ragequits and never comes back -> Low player count for server.
That is such a bullshit, you are saying like that happens daily.
It doesn't.
How many times have you even played on srp? This is complete nonsense you are talking. It just doesn't heppen.
*Looks through post*
Daily? Where? I see nothing of me saying this happened daily.
And this did happen... either when I got on, admins hated me, or I don't know. Because half the time I would go out of my Stalker if he wasnt well equipped, an admin was there to "help" by adding bloodsuckers.
And I played it for awhile, then began playing on/off, then I stopped.

Gonztah

Quote from: D33tly on 28-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 28-10-2012
Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 27-10-2012
Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.
Its not that they kill you, its they kill you ever. time. you. go. out.
You don't have a group of friends to play with? Sorry, please go find another server, we don't allow that kind of passive RP here.
Basically what happens if admins constantly assault lone stalkers with bloodsuckers.
New person joins -> Knows nobody -> Walks around zone -> Gets attaced + killed by bloodsucker -> Ragequits and never comes back -> Low player count for server.
That is such a bullshit, you are saying like that happens daily.
It doesn't.
How many times have you even played on srp? This is complete nonsense you are talking. It just doesn't heppen.
*Looks through post*
Daily? Where? I see nothing of me saying this happened daily.
And this did happen... either when I got on, admins hated me, or I don't know. Because half the time I would go out of my Stalker if he wasnt well equipped, an admin was there to "help" by adding bloodsuckers.
And I played it for awhile, then began playing on/off, then I stopped.

You said that it happened every single time you went out, and that you played often, most likely daily.

D33tly

Quote from: Gonztah on 28-10-2012
Quote from: D33tly on 28-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 28-10-2012
Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 27-10-2012
Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.
Its not that they kill you, its they kill you ever. time. you. go. out.
You don't have a group of friends to play with? Sorry, please go find another server, we don't allow that kind of passive RP here.
Basically what happens if admins constantly assault lone stalkers with bloodsuckers.
New person joins -> Knows nobody -> Walks around zone -> Gets attaced + killed by bloodsucker -> Ragequits and never comes back -> Low player count for server.
That is such a bullshit, you are saying like that happens daily.
It doesn't.
How many times have you even played on srp? This is complete nonsense you are talking. It just doesn't heppen.
*Looks through post*
Daily? Where? I see nothing of me saying this happened daily.
And this did happen... either when I got on, admins hated me, or I don't know. Because half the time I would go out of my Stalker if he wasnt well equipped, an admin was there to "help" by adding bloodsuckers.
And I played it for awhile, then began playing on/off, then I stopped.

You said that it happened every single time you went out, and that you played often, most likely daily.
Ok, well I didn't mean for it to sound like that.
All I meant was that if an admin sees  lone stalker, you dont have to bring in a bloodsucker for it.
All I meant to say was, don't fuck over new players because their alone. It happened to me when I was new, i've seen new people complain about it. (No, it wasn't daily, I just saw it every once and awhile.) And I thought that if it was gonna be a full re-haul of SRP, might as well see if this could be fixed so its a little more "New player friendly".

Gonztah

I'd like to know if ANY of these ideas are being noted at all by the people who have the power to decide.

INA7HAN

Quote from: Gonztah on 28-10-2012
I'd like to know if ANY of these ideas are being noted at all by the people who have the power to decide.
Same otherwise this whole thread is just a massive waste waste of our time.



SRP: Nicolai 'Thunder' Lagunov - Loner - Alive

KingArthur

pretty much unless it comes from silver knight its all suggestions

ThY

#120
Quote from: Gonztah on 28-10-2012
I'd like to know if ANY of these ideas are being noted at all by the people who have the power to decide.
I said earlier in the thread that those who bring ideas to me, will have their thoughts taken into consideration. I don't even dare look through all the pages and shit here.


S'cuse me whilst I just edit somebody else's post for the sake of space...

I'm checking what people are saying on the thread, yes, and I am scribbling down whatever I find to be noteworthy.

Though, ThY does have a point. It would probably be better if concerned individuals just brought their thoughts to somebody able to bring them up with Silver, or make the changes themselves.

~ Ace


Ace I think you've turned modify - hungry. Or maybe forgot how to post.
I have a large list already with ideas, and throwing them here and discussing  isn't doing anything. Talk to someone, like me. (or ace) and we will get shit sorted

Corocan

#121
Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 27-10-2012
Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.
Its not that they kill you, its they kill you ever. time. you. go. out.
You don't have a group of friends to play with? Sorry, please go find another server, we don't allow that kind of passive RP here.
Basically what happens if admins constantly assault lone stalkers with bloodsuckers.
New person joins -> Knows nobody -> Walks around zone -> Gets attaced + killed by bloodsucker -> Ragequits and never comes back -> Low player count for server.

I don't think Bloodsuckers should be used for "teaching noobs a lesson" and certainly aren't meant for that either. Rather, they should be used as they were meant to be used, enhancing the roleplay.

If we want to hook new players, we need to instill a sense of immersion. Give them some stories to share around campfires so they can meet other players. For instance, I saw a poor rookie (Sounds weird using the word rookie after all this time.) with only a makarov and 500 rubles, getting mugged by a highly armed, well equipped, bandit. Instead of just wiping out the bandit (and just throwing away a good roleplay playthrough), logically a Bloodsucker would attack the Rookie, since he's less-equip than the armed bandit, right?

So I do my Bloodsucker roar and jump around on a rooftop, basically making a lot of agitated noises. The bandit FearRPs and bolts, leaving the Rookie to walk a maze of large buildings, of which any I could be on. I let him know I am stalking him through /its and /mes, and I give chase.

So I get a little ahead of him and drop a Hunting Shotgun and some ammo in a building, as well as some other supplies I secured from killing actually well armed people, and chasing him into it. He finds the shotgun pretty much no problem and aims at at the door. I notice this through /mes and /its and I give him the chance to fire, letting him know by /it'ing "bends in the light" and he fires.

I get injured and he escapes through a window, to which I no longer engage him through. I quickly switch off to my main character, find him, and escort him to the Neutral Bar and introduce him to the trader for missions/gear and the likes. Everyone wins in that scenario: Bandit escapes alive, Rookie gets new gear and roleplay experience, and I die losing nothing.

jaik

Quote from: Corocan on 28-10-2012
Quote from: D33tly on 27-10-2012
Quote from: knife_cz on 27-10-2012
Mad because bloodsuckers are killing you when you go alone?
Well too bad, this is Zone. You are not supposed to go alone in such a god damn dangerous place. I always went in a group or atleast with someone. Really rarely alone.

And dayum stop with these stupid two cents, its annoying.
Its not that they kill you, its they kill you ever. time. you. go. out.
You don't have a group of friends to play with? Sorry, please go find another server, we don't allow that kind of passive RP here.
Basically what happens if admins constantly assault lone stalkers with bloodsuckers.
New person joins -> Knows nobody -> Walks around zone -> Gets attaced + killed by bloodsucker -> Ragequits and never comes back -> Low player count for server.

I don't think Bloodsuckers should be used for "teaching noobs a lesson" and certainly aren't meant for that either. Rather, they should be used as they were meant to be used, enhancing the roleplay.

If we want to hook new players, we need to instill a sense of immersion. Give them some stories to share around campfires so they can meet other players. For instance, I saw a poor rookie (Sounds weird using the word rookie after all this time.) with only a makarov and 500 rubles, getting mugged by a highly armed, well equipped, bandit. Instead of just wiping out the bandit (and just throwing away a good roleplay playthrough), logically a Bloodsucker would attack the Rookie, since he's less-equip than the armed bandit, right?

So I do my Bloodsucker roar and jump around on a rooftop, basically making a lot of agitated noises. The bandit FearRPs and bolts, leaving the Rookie to walk a maze of large buildings, of which any I could be on. I let him know I am stalking him through /its and /mes, and I give chase.

So I get a little ahead of him and drop a Hunting Shotgun and some ammo in a building, as well as some other supplies I secured from killing actually well armed people, and chasing him into it. He finds the shotgun pretty much no problem and aims at at the door. I notice this through /mes and /its and I give him the chance to fire, letting him know by /it'ing "bends in the light" and he fires.

I get injured and he escapes through a window, to which I no longer engage him through. I quickly switch off to my main character, find him, and escort him to the Neutral Bar and introduce him to the trader for missions/gear and the likes. Everyone wins in that scenario: Bandit escapes alive, Rookie gets new gear and roleplay experience, and I die losing nothing.

That's the entire reason why mutants should be present in our SRP -- to play to lose and create roleplay, and doing only that should rank you up on the bloodsucker roster.
Blake.H: And im also working on whipping him into shape
Blake.H: He's nice
Blake.H: He doesn't moan
Blake.H: The sheer obedience is enough to fuel my erection anyway

Khorn

#123
Quote from: Jake on 28-10-2012

That's the entire reason why mutants should be present in our SRP -- to play to lose and create roleplay, and doing only that should rank you up on the bloodsucker roster.


Are you suggesting, by 'play to lose' that mutants should more often die by the hands of stalkers?

If so, then players would begin to feel like bad asses. Mutants should do what they are meant to do. Hunt loners and feast on other creatures in the zone. They have their RP, and the stalkers have their own. At times the collide.

Gonztah

I usually kill the players but wont touch their gear (espescially if they're poor rookies), or if I take some of their gear I'll go and make stashes with it.