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Title: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
If you've ever played STALKER: Clear Sky, you know about the bandit group Renegades. At the Wiki it said after Mercenary Scar wiped their forces out in the swamps, their numbers were reduced to 25. They also had a hold in Limansk/Red Forest where they are more highly equipped.

Case down the Renegades are still alive, just they don't have a current leader.

They still have a chance of living, and i'm curious about them in the SRP.

Maybe we could have a small group of them, they are to minimal to be a major faction but they could take part somewhere in the minor factions. In the game they are equipped with low-grade gear, but after the loss of the Swamps.. the NEW leader, could change stuff. As in they could get more strict and the (bandits) would become more powerful in equipment.

The only thing that Renegade had going with them were their numbers, after the huge loss they would have to result in better gear. But i'm just thinking, are we able to create the Renegades again? I'd think it'd be pretty awesome to have them on this server again as it reflects on the actual STALKER storyline.

I could make a background story for them after what happened in the Swamps and Limansk, as in they retreated and etc. I would most likely want the forces from them retreated from Red Forest, and them being wiped out in the swamps.

Im just thinking of this idea, and if anyone has TRIED to do this before, can you tell me below?
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: jaik on 29-05-2011
We tried this twice, died eventually. It was some great RP with Nails.

You shouldn't try it again and you have some canon mistakes.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Turkey on 29-05-2011
Quote from: Jake on 29-05-2011
We tried this twice, died eventually. It was some great RP with Nails.

You shouldn't try it again and you have some canon mistakes.

I think its worth a shot.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
Alright well please inform me on the canon mistakes, this is based off of my knowledge.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Nova on 29-05-2011
First of all, Yoga is the leader of the Bandits (I think, correct me if I'm wrong), not the Renegades. The Renegades do not have any established leadership.

Second of all, the Renegades in Red Forest and Limansk are not directly affiliated with the ones in the Swamps.

Third of all, even if the Renegades survived the events of Clear Sky, they're numbers would be VERY limited. All the way down to maybe only 5-10 members.

But I'd say +support although it should be very limited how many could be in the faction at the same time.






And while we're at it (talking about factions) maybe we should even consider "reviving" Clear Sky in some way or another. Yes, I know it's been tried many times before and failed, but I just think it would be kinda cool.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
Quote from: Nova on 29-05-2011
First of all, Yoga is the leader of the Bandits (I think, correct me if I'm wrong), not the Renegades. The Renegades do not have any established leadership.

Second of all, the Renegades in Red Forest and Limansk are not directly affiliated with the ones in the Swamps.

Third of all, even if the Renegades survived the events of Clear Sky, they're numbers would be VERY limited. All the way down to maybe only 5-10 members.

But I'd say +support although it should be very limited how many could be in the faction at the same time.






And while we're at it (talking about factions) maybe we should even consider "reviving" Clear Sky in some way or another. Yes, I know it's been tried many times before and failed, but I just think it would be kinda cool.

Yeah of course, that's why I posted this in the small faction groups. The limit of mine would be.. 8. I think that sounds about right. And yeah sorry about  that Yoga is the leader of the Bandits, and also they are not really connected with the ones near the Red Forest but they are still apart of the same faction.

And reviving Clear Sky would most likely be pointless. We have an active Ecologist standing and that's all the eggheads we would need for now.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Nova on 29-05-2011
Ecologist+Freedom(Duty?)=Clear Sky

'Nuff said.

Point is, Clear Sky are so much more (and so much better) than just a bunch of nerdy scientist.

Back on topic, the limit for the Renegades should be 6-7. Not much of a difference (apparently), but anything above that and it can be compared to a semi-active major faction.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
Quote from: Nova on 29-05-2011
Ecologist+Freedom(Duty?)=Clear Sky

'Nuff said.

Point is, Clear Sky are so much more (and so much better) than just a bunch of nerdy scientist.

Back on topic, the limit for the Renegades should be 6-7. Not much of a difference (apparently), but anything above that and it can be compared to a semi-active major faction.

Yeah your right but I doubt all 8 people will be active, if I actually do try to create this i'd like to have at least like 3 people on at once for some decent roleplay. OH and one more thing, you all know the bandit merc suit? (Its the brown mercenary suit) do we have those on here that you can buy from a trader?
*NOTE*  PLEASE give me some feedback.

Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Duranblackraven on 29-05-2011
If I remember correctly there's a rule against making PBG's based off game factions. At the LEAST you may need auth from LE or Nitro to even attempt something like this. I've seen people banned for trying to start up 'Clear Sky' and other factions from the game as PBG's.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 29-05-2011
If I remember correctly there's a rule against making PBG's based off game factions. At the LEAST you may been auth from LE or Nitro to even attempt something like this. I've seen people banned for trying to start up 'Clear Sky' and other factions from the game as PBG's.

Exactly why I made this thread before just going and making it.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Nova on 29-05-2011
Honest opinion: +support

It would be so great to see these guys on the server, however you really need to think through how you lead them and how they should act.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
Quote from: Nova on 29-05-2011
Honest opinion: +support

It would be so great to see these guys on the server, however you really need to think through how you lead them and how they should act.

I already have alot of thought into this, and I definately have that figured out. But Duranblackraven is right, I do need to get an auth from SOMEONE. If I get enough support for this that could convince someone to authenticate this group so I can get it started. I already have 10k, and I will get the equipment.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Nova on 29-05-2011
Just don't equip everyone with Groza's and RPG's. You're a worthless, small and weak band of bandits. At first, you would canocly be limited to only pistols, and maybe a few TOZ's, and maybe ONE MP5.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
Quote from: Nova on 29-05-2011
Just don't equip everyone with Groza's and RPG's. You're a worthless, small and weak band of bandits. At first, you would canocly be limited to only pistols, and maybe a few TOZ's, and maybe ONE MP5.

Yeah that's what i'm thinking. As they progress, their capabilities of weapons increase. I'm thinking of having myself equipped with a brown trenchcoat and a AKM. Other members can either decide between a trenchcoat (if they deserve it) or mail bandit jacket. (Weapons will be pistols and other cheap weapons)
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: cgge on 29-05-2011
If this gets done i would be one of them +support
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 29-05-2011
OK I need to get this straight, who exactly will I need authentication to TRY to do this. SK? Commisar Nitro? thank you.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Maxi96203 on 29-05-2011
I don't exactly think this is a good idea, if you can find a REASON for them being in our sector, than I'd support it, but for now, I don't see a reason why there should be a Renegades anyways.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 30-05-2011
Quote from: Maxi96203 on 29-05-2011
I don't exactly think this is a good idea, if you can find a REASON for them being in our sector, than I'd support it, but for now, I don't see a reason why there should be a Renegades anyways.

I barely see ANY bandit groups on at all, (If Decay is bandit idk), all I see is a shit ton of MERCENARY groups. We need some kind of active group that screws with factions and etc. since whenever I go to Freedom most of the time they are just passiving. The most I see is Freedom firing down the tunnel at the Monolith/DUTY on some occasions, it doesn't have to be strict Monolith/DUTY. And also this is a small bandit group, like there should be, I see some groups and they have all this nice shit and etc. How about something smaller that's a threat to rookies but not to major factions?

I've seen some major factions crushed by overpowering PBG's, I don't want that. We need something simple in SRP, not everyone has to have an exo and a fn2000 to be powerful.

Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Duranblackraven on 30-05-2011
If you 'just want a bandit group' then make 'just a bandit group'. How you're going it doesn't NEED to be the Renegades, you just want the cool name.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 30-05-2011
Quote from: Duranblackraven on 30-05-2011
If you 'just want a bandit group' then make 'just a bandit group'. How you're going it doesn't NEED to be the Renegades, you just want the cool name.

The fact is making the Renegades would.. just be more cool. It fits the roleplay better as in people actually know of the group. And besides, why not? just making 'another bandit group' that will most likely die in a matter of seconds after getting raided/hunted. I want to fit the storyline of the Renegades (even if they don't have much). Besides, what is wrong with creating the Renegades?
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: jaik on 30-05-2011
I don't understand why are you making a whole thread about it.
Are you expecting some sort of admin support?
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 30-05-2011
Quote from: Jake on 30-05-2011
I don't understand why are you making a whole thread about it.
Are you expecting some sort of admin support?

Well as said above I do need auth to make it, and I wanted to see what people think about it.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: Agera on 30-05-2011
Why not make your own Bandit Group?
I'm sure you can come up with a better storyline, name, leader, etc.
Title: Re: Renegades?
Post by: GeneralGold on 31-05-2011
Quote from: Agera on 30-05-2011
Why not make your own Bandit Group?
I'm sure you can come up with a better storyline, name, leader, etc.

Alright I suppose that can work, I guess making the Renegades would be to much of a hassle with authentication and etc. anyway. I'l start developing ideas for it. Post anything below to add, if I don't see anything added i'l just go ahead and lock.