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Title: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: mcjamesv on 10-10-2009
Lately I have found that when I approach someone to initiate an rp (have a chat, tap on shoulder) or something they will immediately ooc and ic just blow me off.

I have come to conclusion that its all about factions and suits...

I understand that I am not as well known a player as say a trader, duty, merc, or freedomer. But after some observation I found that the majority of players with suits or a faction title in there name will get a good rp session going only because of that reason alone.

It seems that if anyone sees you have a starter model you are immediately looked down upon as a complete minge who knows nothing about the stalker universe by the people that are part of one of the so called "factions".

A perfect example would be that in S2 I walked in to find a group of mercs and stalker with suits. They have set up a firing range and are taking shots.

I come in from behind and rp "leaning against wall" all at once I get a guy telling me to piss off and ooc "just go away"

another one would be when I offer protection for a bar for free, and I get a big N-O because they only hire people that have suits

just had to get this out there that people should be wanting to rp with people with starter models not avoiding them...
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Plunger on 10-10-2009
Quote from: mcjamesv on 10-10-2009
Lately I have found that when I approach someone to initiate an rp (have a chat, tap on shoulder) or something they will immediately ooc and ic just blow me off.

I have come to conclusion that its all about factions and suits...

I understand that I am not as well known a player as say a trader, duty, merc, or freedomer. But after some observation I found that the majority of players with suits or a faction title in there name will get a good rp session going only because of that reason alone.

It seems that if anyone sees you have a starter model you are immediately looked down upon as a complete minge who knows nothing about the stalker universe by the people that are part of one of the so called "factions".

A perfect example would be that in S2 I walked in to find a group of mercs and stalker with suits. They have set up a firing range and are taking shots.

I come in from behind and rp "leaning against wall" all at once I get a guy telling me to piss off and ooc "just go away"

another one would be when I offer protection for a bar for free, and I get a big N-O because they only hire people that have suits

just had to get this out there that people should be wanting to rp with people with starter models not avoiding them...
I suggest trying to do Bar Missions and getting a good reputation before trying to hang around the factions.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: mcjamesv on 10-10-2009
That is not my point however, bar missions rarely come and when they do you must admit the man serving the mission only gives it to the man with the biggest gun and best suit.

Another thing just 30 minutes ago I forgot to add did I experience an rp without any real RP.
guy: /me raises gun and shoots at his head

exactly how does this work? I mean I could understand raising the gun, but shooting it all in the same motion seems a bit pgming
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Plunger on 10-10-2009
Quote from: mcjamesv on 10-10-2009
That is not my point however, bar missions rarely come and when they do you must admit the man serving the mission only gives it to the man with the biggest gun and best suit.

Another thing just 30 minutes ago I forgot to add did I experience an rp without any real RP.
guy: /me raises gun and shoots at his head

exactly how does this work? I mean I could understand raising the gun, but shooting it all in the same motion seems a bit pgming
That is disappointing, There needs to be reaction time.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Goose on 10-10-2009
God i hated starting off cuz of this if you find some good people who will rp with anyone most of the people in freedom duty will mili just either shoots you or tells you to leave -_-
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Lucidius on 10-10-2009
Funny thing, i've only ever RP'd with loners, and a faction member or two.

Said loners where alot more fun to RP with the faction member's i've observed.

In short: Lighten up, kick back, and relax.

I may respond with more later, gotta get to bed though.

Also: Just because you don't gain rubles, or any actual gain (weapons, ammo, etc), doesn't mean you should stiff out on RP.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: keyfoot on 10-10-2009
i got lucky, first time i joined the server, a trader gave me a mission, that every barrel i bring him i get 300 rubles.

good way to start off.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Locke on 10-10-2009
Well sadly, some people have the idea that all noobs are idiots that can't roleplay.

Thats a stereotype that needs to be abolished.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Dug on 11-10-2009
Quote from: Locke on 10-10-2009
Well sadly, some people have the idea that all noobs are idiots that can't roleplay.

Thats a stereotype that needs to be abolished.

True
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Nikolaz72 on 11-10-2009
Ya Always Welcome in aprogrom... Bloodsuckers have gotten a bit hungry on the lately taken their last foodbatch got irradiated.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Pawx on 11-10-2009
I never do this to New People, I actually get New People to join my RP, many times.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Dark Angel on 11-10-2009
Well i'm RPing with everyone as long as i see they are capable of RPing.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Megamaff on 11-10-2009
I have to admit it is difficult to start off when people only care about faction members or admins
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: swacko on 12-10-2009
RP'ing with newbies(I prefer that term instead of noobs) can always be fun, IF they are even capable of RP. I always volunteer to teach them the basics if needed. However, what I DO hate with new players, and this may add to the stereotype, if you try to explain something to them and they go "Can I have a weapon?" or "Where can I get weapons?" ooc as soon as they join...
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Crimzon_Reaper on 12-10-2009
Personally, I ley 'em RP so long as they can roleplay wiyh me to a good capacity.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Dark Angel on 12-10-2009
Quote from: swacko on 12-10-2009
RP'ing with newbies(I prefer that term instead of noobs) can always be fun, IF they are even capable of RP. I always volunteer to teach them the basics if needed. However, what I DO hate with new players, and this may add to the stereotype, if you try to explain something to them and they go "Can I have a weapon?" or "Where can I get weapons?" ooc as soon as they join...




Well yeah i hate it when first stuff that people ask about is "Where i can get a gun to shoot mutants."
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: mcjamesv on 12-10-2009
which is what most people (newbs) dont do! They obviously arn't that mingy if they took the time to register at the forums and install a new map and model's
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: lolKieck on 12-10-2009
i would RP with you, if SRP would be not so boring
i can teach some guys who didnt play stalker, and teach the basics of rp, but i dont like when someone comes up and starts to beg for a weapon, one time i had a makarov, i rped that i check it, and i got RDMed
that was a fault of a newbie with a gun, but i dont accept that stereotype
People, make more events, this server can even make the coffee sleep !
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: mcjamesv on 12-10-2009
well ill be heading on soon if youd like to rp
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: buck on 13-10-2009
This happened to me today. I walk up to a Duty and say hello trying to start a conversation.. All he does is say "What" and walks away.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Zarrick on 13-10-2009
I was talking on the radio, apparently some guy was in the arm all strutting his shit, anyway, we need like a *Radio* or somthing at the beginning of a sentence to avoid this
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Zero on 13-10-2009
I find that noobs roleplaying with a trader, by just chatting to a trader when he isn't busy tends to open him up to more activitys when people see it, or the Trader mentions that hes "A alright guy"
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Smirnoff on 26-10-2009
Hehe yeah i remember starting off, i coulden't really RP with anyone before i got into a faction.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Romolski on 26-10-2009
There are guides for newbies to brush up. Learning curve isn't that steep.

Although I will (and often do) roleplay with the newer peeps on the server, it is an irritating factor where they chatspeak out of their asses in IC and all it makes me want to do is cut their face off and wear it at their birthday party.

Roleplay is easy, put the effort into it, and people will respect you more. Simple as that.

Questions? Go read a guide.

Guide doesn't help? Ask an administrator (as a LAST resort, unless it is urgent) and let them brief you in.

That or your plain stupid and you're not taking the time to improve yourself...
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Nefertia on 27-10-2009
Very True..

People only want to RP with people of a certain faction... Its weird.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Zero on 27-10-2009
No, they want to roleplay with people known for good roleplaying.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: mcjamesv on 29-10-2009
Your not getting what I am saying here, my point is that people are to stuck up to even take the chance to RP with people outside of a faction or suit. They automatically assume we are 10 year olds on our mothers computer. So to counter-act this instead of giving us a chance they actually minge well toward us than the other way around just so we will go away.

As the old saying goes "Dont judge a book by it's cover?"
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Dark Angel on 29-10-2009
Dude... if you bunny-hop run out with gun/phys/gravgun rised then OFC we will ignore you.

If you are doing stuff like a normal stalker then you will get RP.

And i suggest you buy suit first then buy the weapon.

Because rookies with Lr300 is automatically deemed minge-grabbers.

Because how a fucking person with no protection runs around with Lr300 or something els?
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Assassinator on 29-10-2009
Quote from: Dark Angel on 29-10-2009
Dude... if you bunny-hop run out with gun/phys/gravgun rised then OFC we will ignore you.

If you are doing stuff like a normal stalker then you will get RP.

And i suggest you buy suit first then buy the weapon.

Because rookies with Lr300 is automatically deemed minge-grabbers.

Because how a fucking person with no protection runs around with Lr300 or something els?

Looty-loot from the damaged suit?
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Zero on 02-11-2009
I don't really care about new people with LR-300s as long as I'm not being shot at / they can roleplay fine
And its, Buy weapon, buy suit, buy better weapon.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: dr.steve on 03-11-2009
Had similiar experiences. like i was walking by freedom's base ina STALKER model and i got SHOT ON SIGHTED. Like wtf? do you hate me that much? Its like becuase i dont have a good suit they shoot at me. I have a good reputation with duty and there sometimes like OH I DONT CARE PISS OFF. That is the BIG wtf.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Goose on 03-11-2009
That wasnt us that shot your or if it was we had an order to kill everyone but freedom on sight you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time sinnce we had some very big fire fights today
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Ravanger on 03-11-2009
Well to be honest factions never really like loners. Only if they know they can trust you and that they want you or something. But I rped mainly as a loner the frist while when I was on stalker.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Nikolaz72 on 04-11-2009
Freedom? Ordered to kill everyone? What is this world comming to =O
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Sabbat on 04-11-2009
They didn't kill everyone, or if they did - it was for a good reason. As long as you weren't carrying your gun out in Agropom at the time, they just told you to leave until the shooting died down. Otherwise, if you weren't Freedom, you were shot.

I wasn't shot for instance, a Freedom guy just told me to sod off.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Goose on 04-11-2009
Quote from: Nikolaz72 on 04-11-2009
Freedom? Ordered to kill everyone? What is this world comming to =O

this order came straight from our coleader we warned people to leave and then killed anyone left we took agraprom and then let them back but any one in the area was considered a threat at the time
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Dark Angel on 04-11-2009
Remmember newbies! Major factions like Duty , Freedom and Mono are fail to RP with

RP with Mili , Loners , Mercs , Bandits <----- There are normal people the rest are fail!


And belive me soon you will proove that you are good RPer!

Also don't go like "LOL may i join factionz?!" , "Lol i know ya leader well may i join nowz for gunz?"
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Assassinator on 04-11-2009
Uhm... waaat. I relatively agree as the newer people normally go towards DUTY or Freedom but RP with whoever and if they don't roleplay properly then you can stop, but don't just start avoiding Freedom, DUTY, and Monolith (Well, don't go to Monolith) just because someone says so.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Goose on 04-11-2009
When i was a stalker i tried to RP with mili on redemtion they always ALWAYS killed me :P and i actually helped them a few times then i said Fck it
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Outline on 04-01-2010
Hmm, I am in fact about to join the server for the first time. Hoping to have a good start towards a what I have come to expect after examining many forum posts.... A good server for a great idea. I have played on many other rp stories and have been complimented many times for my role-playing ability. Not to sound a bit... Lets say stuck up but I am hoping to actually avoid the issue that is this topic so I may in fact come to enjoy the server and further progress in it. We will see.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: KingArthur on 04-01-2010
Nice to see a new face- Great time to join in on the fun too, Script JUST got upgraded/fixed by Exile AKA Silver Knight. Hope to see you on.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Outline on 08-01-2010
Heh Strange... I got into the peacekeepers in the first three hours of gameplay. Though it is indeed quite fun.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Dark Angel on 08-01-2010
Uhhhh Peacekeeper? It's not borderlands -.-'
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Sickness on 08-01-2010
It doesn't get more realistic than this..
In real life you cant be popular right away, you need to work your way up, same here. It just takes time.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: deluxulous on 08-01-2010
Indeed.

Of course, I was popular as soon as I joined... I was an RDA of the first HL2RP ;v
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: IceFire on 09-01-2010
When we were on old map... redemption, i think. The second I spawned, I saw Duty. I walked up to them and started talking to me, they took me to the bar and asked how I got to the zone. I said i wanted to join Duty, and they accepted me, simple as. With the right attitude towards roleplay, you can get anything, even if you aint experienced.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Aznpunk77 on 09-01-2010
Quote from: IceFire on 09-01-2010
When we were on old map... redemption, i think. The second I spawned, I saw Duty. I walked up to them and started talking to me, they took me to the bar and asked how I got to the zone. I said i wanted to join Duty, and they accepted me, simple as. With the right attitude towards roleplay, you can get anything, even if you aint experienced.
^ Man speaks the truth, first day I was on. I got enslaved at the junkyard, DUTY bailed me out and all was happy.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Aresty on 06-02-2010
I RP with everybody, I never avoided a noob. I most likely abuse them, to get cash for ICly lies.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Outline on 06-02-2010
I actually find that the term "noob" on the server isen't said to often as the community is nice. :)
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: InfamousXII on 11-02-2010
^ agreed there hasn't been one person who said "noob" on the first 3 days I've been playing and everyone is nice.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Zombiedance on 13-02-2010
Back when the server had just started i joined and dam that was bad for noobs you couldn't do anything i got a weapon and a guy had his gun pointed at my head and he wanted my money so i ran backwards and shot him then got kicked for being violent. :[ That was a sad time.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: kisftw on 14-02-2010
Well, some stalker meta-gamed and rp_avoided and got one of my story arcs rdm'd. So... I don't hang out with stalkers anymore unless I know them. Sorry, some shitty players ruin it for other people.

EDIT: He just got perma'd. I lol'd. So. Unbelievably. Hard.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: Aftershocks on 17-04-2010
meh when i was a noob a friend of mine was with me and some nice people taught me along with some admins... ive never actually done a quest with a trader or anyone though. Im military and i remember the good old days of anomally chasing (someone told me you can find stuff on the floor around them. Once i found like a meat fruit or something weird. XD All i can say about being a noob though when it comes to other factions is "sucker meat" lul.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: JihadiAllah on 18-04-2010
Heck when i first started i just walked around and explored make a name of yourself as a loner type for a bit then make friends later so you dont have so many problems hang around freedom and just chill pop in random comments in a conversation i made 12k in rubles by just walking around the map finding shit ,artifacts, weapons, to day i made 2k in missions just gotta be in at the right time and place.. ive only been playing 3 weeks now and in DUTY with a sig 550
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: lolKieck on 19-04-2010
Quote from: JihadiAllah on 18-04-2010
Heck when i first started i just walked around and explored make a name of yourself as a loner type for a bit then make friends later so you dont have so many problems hang around freedom and just chill pop in random comments in a conversation i made 12k in rubles by just walking around the map finding shit ,artifacts, weapons, to day i made 2k in missions just gotta be in at the right time and place.. ive only been playing 3 weeks now and in DUTY with a sig 550

Jeez, Duty uses Warsaw Pact weapons... Stay canon, maybe for a bit.
Title: Re: People not wanting to RP with "noobs"
Post by: JihadiAllah on 20-04-2010
You guys apparently dont understand they use warsaw pact weapons because there cheap and easy to replace..If you join already having a better weapon why would you down grade? If you lose it its your problem we will give you a ak. Plus.. i use it because the ammo it uses is 5.45 th Ak and Abakan ammo so all i haft to do is ask a fellow DUTYer for ammo.