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Poll
Question: Shall the map be changed?
Option 1: Yes, to: Redux :tick: votes: 9
Option 2: Yes, to: Chernobyl :tick: votes: 3
Option 3: Yes, to: Redemption :tick: votes: 11
Option 4: Yes, to: Apocalypse :tick: votes: 4
Option 5: No, don't change it. :cross: votes: 16
Title: New Map-Vote
Post by: Astarathia on 29-01-2011
Since people keep crashing on f*ckin S42, I'd say we do a vote, since exile wont start one, to show him that we want a mapchange, since S42 keeps crashing without any fucking reasons. I go into the server... 5 mins later, BLAM, HL2 exe crash! ... S42? Yes.
So how about we just change it...  :tick:
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: nKe on 29-01-2011
Cherno or Redemption
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Yorty on 29-01-2011
I really don't care as long as the map isn't Chernobyl. What's Apocalypse?
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Gokiller on 29-01-2011
I Think HGN Needs a New Map!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Astarathia on 29-01-2011
http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=109989 (http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=109989)

This is Apocalypse, we had it for a short time , I liked it and wuz stable.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
Lol I'm not voting to change the bloody map because people can't configure their settings.
Either you need to set your settings to low.
Either you need to apply a fix.
Either you need to set your router straight.

Server crashes only when people spam props. Like the military event today.
And Rp_apocalypse is a big fat no. That's a fallout map not stalker and it never will fit the stalker theme.

You people need to deal with it, the server is growing, more minor factions are popping up and that's why the server needs bigger maps. The future is in the big maps not small boxed in maps where everyone can see each other or maps with lack of areas.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Astarathia on 29-01-2011
Dug, S42 wants low ass craphics to run OK. Not good. Just OK.
One setting on high... BLAM, INSTACRASH OF ME...
So much for stable.
I want to test my new PC, but nooo...
And if the playerbase says yes, and just you say no and then it doesn't change... I am sorry but then you are a bad admin and not worth to be one.
Wich fixes, wich stuff in router...
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Turkey on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
Lol I'm not voting to change the bloody map because I am a elitist,people can't configure their settings.
Either you need to set your settings to low.
Either you need to apply a fix.
Either you need to set your router straight.
Either you buy a new computer, because I don't care about anyone but myself, I want this map, I don't care if everyone crashes.

Server crashes only when people can't be, 1337. Like duty.

Thats all I saw
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
Lol so I'm a bad admin because I disagree with you.
Alright I see the that's very logical.
Either way, there's the overflow fix and the engine error fix.
I'm sure someone around here has it , they just need to give it to you.
Other than that router needs to be port forwarded for 27015 and able to accept files.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: jaik on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Astarathia on 29-01-2011
I am sorry but then you are a bad admin and not worth to be one.


Idiot.
How does having an opinion with a rational explanation make you a bad admin?
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: lolKieck on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Turkey on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
Lol I'm not voting to change the bloody map because I am a elitist,people can't configure their settings.
Either you need to set your settings to low.
Either you need to apply a fix.
Either you need to set your router straight.
Either you buy a new computer, because I don't care about anyone but myself, I want this map, I don't care if everyone crashes.

Server crashes only when people can't be, 1337. Like duty.

Lol I can't even troll properly
Cool story bro.
And Astarathia, take it to SF if you have a personal grudge against Dug, also, GMod isn't the most stable and optimized game in the world.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Ace of Hearts on 29-01-2011
I'm... Gonna' have to go with Dug on this one. S42 has some instability issues, but it's nothing some alterations to your Gmod settings and/or console commands can't alleviate or reduce.

That being said, if we DO change the map, I can only forsee more bitching about it shortly after. Chernobyl is far too wide open, Redemption is much too small, Redux is just... Not getting into that. The only change I would even think of reccommending is to Apocalypse, but that doesn't fit the Stalker theme. In the end, what we need is a new, large, optimized map. I'd love to see Hostel or Bielecki complete their work on their current projects, as I believe the community would be significantly happier on either of them in comparison to our current map selection.

EDIT:

Quote from: lolKieck on 29-01-2011
Quote
Cool story bro.
And Astarathia, take it to SF if you have a personal grudge against Dug, also, GMod isn't the most stable and optimized game in the world.

This.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Gokiller on 29-01-2011
S42
Sexy  :tick:
Crashable  :tick: 6/10
Great Size  :tick:
Playerbase Groups  :tick:
Faction Happy  :tick:
Undergound  :tick: ( WAY TO BIG )
Events  :tick:
--------------------------------------------------
7/10
----------------------------------------------
Chernobal
Sexy  :tick:
Crashable  :tick: 3/10
Great Size   :cross: ( to big)
Playerbase Groups  : :tick:  :cross: (some places)
Faction Happy  :tick:
Undergound   Not sure
Events  :tick:

7 1/2/10
---------------------------------
Redemption
Sexy   :cross:
Crashable   :cross:
Great Size   :cross:
Playerbase Groups   :cross:
Faction Happy   :cross:
Undergound  :tick:
Events   :cross:
-------------------------------
2/10

Apocalypse

Sexy    :tick:
Crashable   N/A
Great Size    :tick:
Playerbase Groups    :tick:
Faction Happy   N/A
Undergound   :cross:
Events    :tick:

6/10

Redux

Sexy   :cross:
Crashable     :cross:
Great Size   :cross:
Playerbase Groups   :cross:
Faction Happy   :cross:
Undergound    :tick:
Events   :cross:

2/10



Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
And that sums it up why S42 is worth having. Just bug Exile to optimize it.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Astarathia on 29-01-2011
Quote from: SimplyStealth on 29-01-2011

I'd love to see Hostel or Bielecki complete their work on their current projects, as I believe the community would be significantly happier on either of them in comparison to our current map selection.


This. I agree there.
And I agree with Turkey, but that's personal.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Violet on 29-01-2011
In any case I love big maps cause I dont feel like im about to get shot when I enter a sector because the guy across the map can see. I say S42 to stay but it is a tad crashy...
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
Seen the new bandit group? Wonderful. What do you think is going to happen if we switch to redemption? Tunnel camping. Bandits profit, you lose. Sector 3 is completely closed off by military, only their military mercs can go there along with them.

That leaves you two boxes and an underground to play in. If you are all happy with that then go on and vote, it won't make a difference for me because I can find my way around. Chernobyl has ecologist bunker (occupied by ecos obviously), military base (hostile to loners), Defiance/Sanctioned base, Duty base, freedom base, abandoned tunnel, warehouse(bandits), red forest (mutants). And that's it, there's only the swamps and open terrain. People can't have a place to call their own nor to hide in if everyone else out there is chasing them.
Also, server 2 is currently on chernobyl.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: nKe on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
Seen the new bandit group? Wonderful. What do you think is going to happen if we switch to redemption? Tunnel camping. Bandits profit, you lose. Sector 3 is completely closed off by military, only their military mercs can go there along with them.

That leaves you two boxes and an underground to play in. If you are all happy with that then go on and vote, it won't make a difference for me because I can find my way around. Chernobyl has ecologist bunker (occupied by ecos obviously), military base (hostile to loners), Defiance/Sanctioned base, Duty base, freedom base, abandoned tunnel, warehouse(bandits), red forest (mutants). And that's it, there's only the swamps and open terrain. People can't have a place to call their own nor to hide in if everyone else out there is chasing them.
Also, server 2 is currently on chernobyl.

Its locked :C
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
App for it. Bug Exile to unlock it. I see no point in locking it , no one goes on it.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Astarathia on 29-01-2011
Can't find the "engine error fix" in search, link please.

Also, 27015 UDP or TCP?
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
Ask Rook, I guided him to it, but he did the rest on his own.
Kieck mentioned the engine fix, so I guess starting with him would be a good idea.

EDIT: Funny thing is I never crashed since I upgraded my PC to Windows 7 and put 6 GB of RAM in it.
I'd RSO if I'd alt tab , rarely, but that fixed it with windowed mode. And I don't have any of the fixes, go figure.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: nKe on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
App for it. Bug Exile to unlock it. I see no point in locking it , no one goes on it.
K...

Exile if u readin' this, unlock server2 pl0x...
U dont know me but yeah K unlock ty.



=
Profit
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Khorn on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Nik3 on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
App for it. Bug Exile to unlock it. I see no point in locking it , no one goes on it.
K...

Exile if u readin' this, unlock server2 pl0x...
U dont know me but yeah K unlock ty.



=
Profit


That was a terrible attempt to get his attention.


Also, you guys could try out Darkonila, or whatever it was.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Tom on 29-01-2011
Im saying no on the principle of the fact that a few weeks ago you all where like "YEAH YEAH YEAH S42 YEAH YEAH YEAH!" Pro tip: Pick a map, Stick with it for a few weeks
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
Got a link for that?
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: nKe on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Khorn on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Nik3 on 29-01-2011
Quote from: Dug on 29-01-2011
App for it. Bug Exile to unlock it. I see no point in locking it , no one goes on it.
K...

Exile if u readin' this, unlock server2 pl0x...
U dont know me but yeah K unlock ty.



=
Profit

That was a terrible attempt to get his attention.


That was the meaning of my post dude...
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Nova on 29-01-2011
No... just no.
It wouldn't make sense to change the map now, since we just changed it like a little more than a week ago or so. And S42 is by far the best Stalker themed map we have.

Redemption: Too blocky, kills RP and STK fights (In my opinion).

Chernobyl: Good map, but there's too few buildings and it's too open. Kills RP.

Redux: Crappy map. I have nothing else to say.

Apocalypse: It's a Fallout themed map, which has nothing to do with Stalker, in any way. Shouldn't happen, will never happen.

In my opinion, we should just stay on S42 for now and wait and see what it will do to the playerbase. If the playerbase drops, we can change. Until then, no.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: nKe on 29-01-2011
Stick to the client-crashing map and playerbase WILL drop.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Dug on 29-01-2011
We had thirty players just an hour ago. Somehow I doubt that what you say.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Rook on 29-01-2011
I did it for TPD and UPD.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: nKe on 29-01-2011
Would been enjoyable without all the crashes... Was unplayable for me.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Paintcheck on 29-01-2011
Apocalypse is shit and I can run S42 on my laptop without crashing. Turn your settings down and also turn your draw distance down (ESPECIALLY THAT) from the Q --> Options menu. And it will work. Gmod isn't well optimized and having a huge draw distance is asking to have crashes.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: deluxulous on 29-01-2011
Seriously. Turning down your graphics from High --> Medium isn't that big of a difference visually, but with performance, it helps a ton. Turning off anti-aliasing will also help you tremendously.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Khorn on 29-01-2011
I was on for a few minutes before I had to get of quickly.

But I was playing on full settings just fine, during the 30ish players on server.

By full settings, I mean highest as possible.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Legit|Brandon on 29-01-2011
I don't crash on high settings,

What about that Dark Dalonia map some TnB person made and submitted it here?
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Khorn on 29-01-2011
It has issues like Redemption, with the tunnels.


And in my opinion, its not well made for SRP. The size and connections between sectors would kill RP to an extent.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: meetdadoom on 30-01-2011
Redux lol really? That map is a big fat NO!
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Zstan on 30-01-2011
I don't think Exile will change the map because little babby's computer can't handle the Source engine.

Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Steven :D on 30-01-2011
Haven't done redux in a long time, I want to return to redux.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Knife_cz on 30-01-2011
Right,redux..never roleplayed there :/
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Aresty on 31-01-2011
Redux.. Huh sucked a bit.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Chrono on 31-01-2011
I dont crash in it...i also have everything on the highest settings so lets stay on S42
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Silver Knight on 31-01-2011
I am considering using one of paradox's old maps because they are long dead now. Or Raviools map.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Turkey on 31-01-2011
Quote from: Last.Exile on 31-01-2011
I am considering using one of paradox's old maps because they are long dead now. Or Raviools map.

Raviools map.

It's preetty damn good.

Plus we could use something new.
Title: Re: New Map-Vote
Post by: Astarathia on 01-02-2011
Quote from: Zstan on 30-01-2011
I don't think Exile will change the map because little babby's computer can't handle the Source engine.


I smell a second Dark Angel here. Nuff said who knows HIM.