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Title: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Locke on 28-08-2009
Please post all issues and suggestions regarding us in this thread, no bitching.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Plunger on 29-08-2009
In the equipment it seems that Private First Class can use a desert eagle, but not a Beretta?

You spelled Sergeant wrong on roster.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: KillSlim on 13-09-2009
Suggestion- Maybe Military-Mercenary roster?
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Radek on 13-09-2009
We dont have that many so it isent needed at the moment.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: KillSlim on 14-09-2009
Quote from: Radek on 13-09-2009
We dont have that many so it isent needed at the moment.

Why not just add a small section to the current roster in case you get more in the future?
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Wazer Wifle on 14-09-2009
Agreed.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Goose on 19-09-2009
ummm mabey you can stop breaking NLR
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Locke on 20-09-2009
Quote from: goose on 19-09-2009
ummm mabey you can stop breaking NLR

Says the guy I've kicked numerous times for breaking NLR.

Find proof of it, then tell us to stop doing it.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: UnnamedRevenge on 21-09-2009
We need to be involved more actively in the RP, most of the time we just go and recluse in our checkpoint. We should move base  to be more active in the RP.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Paintcheck on 21-09-2009
I don't know about you but I've had some amazing RP just with people in base. I do agree that maybe some more patrols would be nice, if for no other reason that it gives Freedom a chance to RP with us without being raped.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Rebel6609 on 21-09-2009
heh any time a military gets close to a freedomer they both draw there guns and slowly back up. then the freedomer would run and then later attack the mili while there guard is down. then lose cuz we rock so much :D
but Patrols would be nice. maybe sending out some Lower ranked soldiers like 2 privates and a corporal to patrol instead of a captian going out on patrol or sending out the damn Major on a simple patrol. Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Radek on 21-09-2009
Yea tat would be fine but we are most often only like 3 guys online at the same time.
If people start being more active then mabye..
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: asoldier290 on 21-09-2009
Ill apply for military once i get my post count up. I love doing passive rolepaly things, i dont have to be the center of attention like everyone else in most RP servers.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 26-09-2009
Erm Some NCO's are saying to me that i have to call them sir, salute etc.
Im not being funny, but you call an NCO by their rank as in "Hey Corporal"
They arent officers so whats with the salutes?
Just my opinion on it, regarding REAL millitary standards.

Thanks
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Wazer Wifle on 26-09-2009
^ You CAN salute Corporals, Sarges, its just plain respectful, but as far as I know, its not completely necessary. Anyone that is Lieutenant and up is a CO, and therefore you must kiss their feet =P
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 26-09-2009
In Real millitary terms an NCO would find a salute to them either stupid or Disrespectful.
This is just how i think it should be, considering my experience with the army IRL
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: asoldier290 on 28-09-2009
Suggestion:

Since we dont have a squad three yet i had an idea.

Squad 3:

Squad three is a team of 3-4 Soldiers (No captains or anything just Designated members) that perform recon mission out in the zone.

Their primary mission is to take Photographs (F5) and bring back any important information to the higher command chain. this intel Include Faction base details, Areas of interest, and anything that recon deems fit as necessary information. Recon can also provide information if there's a warparty coming to the checkpoint or if factions are fighting eachother etc. Recon would be a reactive group under the military, only acting if acted upon (WE get shot at we fire back) and intel is their only mission.

Why would this be a good idea:
1. A squad who just dosent run over and kill freedomers for fun, but rather to gather intel on them so OTHERS can go have some fun.
2. Fills up the empty squad position
3. Allows people who enjoy Passive RP do do things, besides just - Guard Checkpoint->SHoot Freedom->Raid->Repeat.
4. Gives more insight to the military, Military is basically ALL about intel collection before they go in and do anything.

Equipment:
Primary - Ak74-u, Ak74-m, Spaz-12 (A thought)
Secondary - Fort 12
Melee - Knife
(Flash grenades or smoke?)

Uniform:
Hoodh3.mdl (Same model as basic Military but white winter)
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 28-09-2009
I like your idea, but i think it should be a 2-3 man specialist squad. and for recon what would the point be in white winter? maybe get a model of some sort of guilie suit?
That would be a lil better.
Coz white winter in a generally urban/woodland sort of setting.
I was also thinking about suggesting it.
One member of the squad should be designated a sniper rifle, as general recon units have.
It should be a squad run by a corporal.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Crimzon_Reaper on 28-09-2009
Nope.

NCOs are not officers. If they tell you to salute . . . Well. Remind them in a polite fashion that power-tripping will be reported to higher authorities.

Like Mister Fist, and his fiance, Mistress Boot.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: asoldier290 on 28-09-2009
Quote from: the jackal on 28-09-2009
I like your idea, but i think it should be a 2-3 man specialist squad. and for recon what would the point be in white winter? maybe get a model of some sort of guilie suit?
That would be a lil better.
Coz white winter in a generally urban/woodland sort of setting.
I was also thinking about suggesting it.
One member of the squad should be designated a sniper rifle, as general recon units have.
It should be a squad run by a corporal.

Monolith wears white, as for the three man squad sure. A designated marksman would be awesome. especially since some guys ahve SVD's and upgun the Military at times. As for the uniform, maybe Black or some type of guile would be nice.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Paintcheck on 28-09-2009
A recon team would want to be stealthy. Having them in white camo doesn't make much sense, plus it leads to much friendly fire in the event we have to shoot at monos while the recon team is in the area.

As for saluting, everyone should just be like me and generally be a disrespectful jerk to everyone regardless of rank.

That's probably a bad idea if you plan to actually get promoted and whatnot.

Enlarged the bottom text for you paintcheck :V
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 28-09-2009
I think it would help, i mean all of the raids into freedom and other places mean less loss's. coz we will already know whats going on, i for one would love to be part of the unit.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: asoldier290 on 28-09-2009
Same, and since im not in a Squad or unit yet it would be a fun transition
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 29-09-2009
Yer me neither.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: asoldier290 on 29-09-2009
Ahh so many lost rookies!  use them as paperweights! =P
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 29-09-2009
Hush! im now a private :P
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Locke on 29-09-2009
If Radek would just update the roster Q__Q
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 30-09-2009
He updated it the other day i think :S
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Rebel6609 on 15-10-2009
Quote from: asoldier290 on 28-09-2009
Suggestion:

Since we dont have a squad three yet i had an idea.

Squad 3:

Squad three is a team of 3-4 Soldiers (No captains or anything just Designated members) that perform recon mission out in the zone.

Their primary mission is to take Photographs (F5) and bring back any important information to the higher command chain. this intel Include Faction base details, Areas of interest, and anything that recon deems fit as necessary information. Recon can also provide information if there's a warparty coming to the checkpoint or if factions are fighting eachother etc. Recon would be a reactive group under the military, only acting if acted upon (WE get shot at we fire back) and intel is their only mission.

Why would this be a good idea:
1. A squad who just dosent run over and kill freedomers for fun, but rather to gather intel on them so OTHERS can go have some fun.
2. Fills up the empty squad position
3. Allows people who enjoy Passive RP do do things, besides just - Guard Checkpoint->SHoot Freedom->Raid->Repeat.
4. Gives more insight to the military, Military is basically ALL about intel collection before they go in and do anything.

Equipment:
Primary - Ak74-u, Ak74-m, Spaz-12 (A thought)
Secondary - Fort 12
Melee - Knife
(Flash grenades or smoke?)

Uniform:
Hoodh3.mdl (Same model as basic Military but white winter)
it'll look like a good idea, but we dont have another captian to run it. besides that we would need more players to be active in the server. it sounds alot like the special forces squad BEFORE the faction wipe.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Radek on 16-10-2009
Cant belive i missed that.. UIt's a good idea actually.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Smirnoff on 29-10-2009
Yeah, as others say, for a dquad three we need to be more active. Else it would be kind of pointless.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: swacko on 08-11-2009
Just one thing I want to put out there:

The other day I was setting up a mission in the Freedom base, and everything was going well...then for some reason a helicopter suddenly fly's near the base and start shooting us down...no RP or OOC mentioning of it whatsoever, just sudden STK of everyone in the Freedom base...if you can at least make an announcement the next time you want to STK with a helicopter and setting brick/concrete buildings on fire, I'd appreciate it.
This is my point of view on what happened... And I was the only Freedomer on, so really, you find it neccesary to bring in a helicopter?
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 08-11-2009
How are you sure it was Military...?

Just because we´re the only ones who /should/ have helicopters doesn´t mean someone broke the rules or stole our chopper to go shoot you down. Just saying.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: swacko on 08-11-2009
Maybe because Radek said he was in a helicopter?
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 08-11-2009
You could´ve stated that. Also, we´ll need Radek to say something because right now we´re on stand-by for this.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Radek on 08-11-2009
OH you mean when you were Bitching at me in ooc then suddely i was attacked? YEa i attacked and killed you ooc couse you started shooting at me. I mean Sure i dident see you take the first shot but The chopper took dmg just as i flew overyour base when i was heading back, So i turned around and opend fire once (This was also after Royz tried to kill with me with a bunch of anomilies so the chopper was really Dmged already) I dident try to kill you at first just to scare you away then i was going to fly away but you guys dident stop shooting so i finished the deed so to speak.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: swacko on 09-11-2009
Sorry if I bitched at you ooc, that was not my intention, was just really tired...
Anyway, I was only Freedomer on atm as far as I could see, and I was busy setting up a mission, so I had no intention of attacking whatsoever, so I dont think it was Freedomers that attacked you. But if a helicopter attacks, of course I will try to defend myself. Though I just tried to find cover...
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: bto on 09-11-2009
I hate that we cant have a fight with Military without being OWNED!

Also, i have not had a fight with military that was Stm, or Strp. They declare it STk always. I mean always.

You even attack us when its 5vs3. That has stopped so "Thank You!"
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Doomburger on 10-11-2009
1.If you want to stop losing,do something about it.We won't just let you win.

2.We STK because in STM or STRP you always pull "LOL UNREALISTIC" or similar things.

3.You also attack us when you have alot more soldiers than us,so don't whine.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Radek on 10-11-2009
OK Let's get off that topic now..
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: killdead 660 on 28-11-2009
Ghillie suit would rock my socks. Would be great to pick off bandits from 300 yards away unnoticed. I would make a good sniper/scout.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: KillSlim on 12-12-2009
Quote from: killdead 660 on 28-11-2009
Ghillie suit would rock my socks. Would be great to pick off bandits from 300 yards away unnoticed. I would make a good sniper/scout.

People used to make Ghillie suits with the hat stool, but, there were just so many of them.
I highly doubt we will ever add a suitable Ghillie suit model.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 12-12-2009
The lack of a prone position practically makes it useless anyways enless it makes you perfectly look like a bush with a long, silver, spike sticking out. But to make it complete we'd need ghillie weapons too.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: commanthe2 on 07-01-2010
Get a 50. CAL Sniper Rifle with ghillie on it. But yea no prone=You running around and everyone calling you bush man/woman like they did back when there was PAC. Just maybe use something like /lay would work so you can turn but not move. Cause I don't think anyone has even made a prone animation where they crawl on the ground.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Fluffy on 07-01-2010
Close to a thread necro.

And we don't got a ghillie model yet.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 08-01-2010
It's a stickied topic.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Radek on 15-01-2010
What sounds good... They dident decide on anything just saying the thread is stickyd..
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 15-01-2010
Fixed.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Lokter on 16-01-2010
I was told that Millitary would help out newcomers and wounded players.. so i headed over there.. I got there.. was asked what i wanted.. then the gates were closed and next second there are bullets spraying everywhere and some guy claiming there were intruders. I dont know what was happening but it didnt seem all too good to find them only RP'ing amongst themselves and killing or shooting at anyone who got near.

In all honesty.. I have ben on the server for 3 days.. and after looking at the factions.. I wanted to join Millitary. I dont mind joining being put into the recon squad if it helps get things going again but I kinda want to experience RP with the factions before I make my choice and aply.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 16-01-2010
Huh? Military is supposed to shoot everyone on sight, but they're greedy and accept money for different things, they're also lazy so they don't care much about doing their job. We don't help loner's, at all, that's like helping a wanted felon, which it technically is.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Lokter on 16-01-2010
Fair enough.. I might apply then.. or should I wait a while?
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: KingArthur on 16-01-2010
Technically you need a certain number of posts, I don't know post around some more.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 16-01-2010
You can always post, if I like your application enough I'll accept it.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Tom on 26-01-2010
It looked rather silly when you guys had like 10-15 men, a normal helicopter, and a "Hind" to raid Freedom base which at the time only had 4-6 men in it. Overkill if you ask me. By the way please dont spawn your "Hind" it caused me to lag out/crash on the server several times.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 26-01-2010
Quote from: Tom on 26-01-2010
It looked rather silly when you guys had like 10-15 men, a normal helicopter, and a "Hind" to raid Freedom base which at the time only had 4-6 men in it. Overkill if you ask me. By the way please dont spawn your "Hind" it caused me to lag out/crash on the server several times.

You know in military terms your supposed to engage an enemy on a 3 to 1 basis? It ensures your losses are minimum and that you will provail.
So i dont really think it was stupid.
Altho i got pissed because i was killed by military in that bit of combat, and one of the skanky recruit bastards looted me.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Tom on 26-01-2010
I know that much but a chopper and a "lolhind" is a bit much, and anouther thing that made me go "Lul wut?" is when i walked up and asked Icly "what happened" and one mili guy said go away and began stming with a makarov, that was OK since it was STM with a weak gun. But what made me go 'lul wut" was the fact that after that one guy shot warning shots with a makarov like 5-6 recruits started to STK me with AK's and i wasnt even armed. Luckly Violet got to my corpse first and i was able to get my gun that was in my inventory. (I suppose having it in my inventory counts as not being armed, but im not sure.)
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 26-01-2010
You cant really make a complaint about that.
Its military, you should stay away from them fullstop.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Tom on 26-01-2010
True... But being chased down was kind of funny to me.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Lokter on 26-01-2010
were you the one with the mossberg who like.. walked 3 paces.. then stopped.. then waited for us to fire more warnings..then walked 3 paces.. then stopped again?

Cuase thats not the recruits fault.. they were told to kill you if you didnt run away. :P
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 26-01-2010
OLOL, that was you? You were facing us, walking backwards, waiting, dodging bullets, walking back... then we started to actually shoot you. If you still don't move we keep shooting you bit by bit till you die.

EDIT: Walther, by the way, not a Makarov. Don't use Failkarovs.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Punisher270 on 09-02-2010
We need  more people  to play Yes we are getting new recuirts and everything But, we need to do some more events  fridays is not enough alot of  people do stuff on fridays i suggest make  at least 2 more events so we can  maybe make people  want to be in military.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Assassinator on 09-02-2010
I didn't want to invade everyone's "lives" but apparently you all have none so I'll work you guys like dogs.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 10-02-2010
Quote from: Punisher270 on 09-02-2010
We need  more people  to play Yes we are getting new recuirts and everything But, we need to do some more events  fridays is not enough alot of  people do stuff on fridays i suggest make  at least 2 more events so we can  maybe make people  want to be in military.

Passive Events: No problem!
Anything else such as attacks etc is hard, because you need to rely on the COMMUNITYYYY to be on.
Not just us.
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: irondeity on 02-03-2010
I was thinking, we should add to the roster or another thread in here, each soldier's specialty. IE: Close Quarters, Medical, Sniping, Scouting, Mapping, Intelligence (Guess Intelligence would be Scouting and Mapping as one thing), Demolitions, ect. Anyone like this idea?
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: Steel on 02-03-2010
Just bracket it next to their name, that would be the better thing to do, or maybe promote them to a "Specialist" which is in theory a senior soldier?
Title: Re: Military Suggestions and Complaints
Post by: irondeity on 02-03-2010
Yea. putting the players IC area of expertise/specialty next to them on the roster works