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5 things you wanted edited/changed/removed/added to srp

Started by Silver Knight, 13-10-2010

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Quote from: meetdadoom on 18-10-2010
Quote from: Tom on 18-10-2010
Not really, Its like adding a day and night system, its more of an anoyance then its worth.

(IE): *Tom raises his gun at the guy with the hostage
Terrorist: If you do. . . She gets it
Girl: Please dont!
*The Terrorist laughs maniacally
*Toms stomache grumbles
*Girls stomache grumbles
*Terrorists stomache grumbles
Tom: // Shit I need to eat
Girl: // Me too
Terrorist: // Damn hunger mod.

It would ruin epic RP and stuff since most hunger mods are a 'Starve to death' mod. and if it modifies stats whats the point? Stats count for shit anyway cause everyone is paper thin, weak, and can only jog for 5-8 seconds.

You and Alucard both have good points, how about this then, if you eat food you get a temporary buff, but its not like you can start staking buffs like eating 200 suasages and then being able to be stronger than an exo.
Or, you can stop being lazy, and actually RP.

Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.

It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.

Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?

Quote from: Bielecki on 18-10-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.

It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.

Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?
Stalker was a DM game, in case you didn't know.

Quote from: Bielecki on 18-10-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.

It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.

Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?

I do. At least in CS when item condidtions did't matter to the trader. In CoP this ended when traders realised they where buying utter shit from me. I still picked up every gun I could find, just only those that where in good condition. Assuming we make items easy-ish to get, a condition system could be put in place for wepons and maby armour. This would limit people hoarding every gun they could find, as any self respecting trader wouldn't buy an Abakan that cant fire more than one shot without jaming.
To loot, lulz and SCIENCE!

Quote from: Bielecki on 18-10-2010
Quote from: Khorn on 18-10-2010
If you make the items easy to get, people will attempt to hoard them.

It won't change the fact that a lot of players are greedy for items.

Your missing my point. If people had all that they need and want they wont go around hoarding items.
In the stalker games did you pick up every gun you came across?

Sorry, people don't work like that. Make everyone equal, they bitch for more. They will continue to beg for more items to have an advantage over others. Can't do anything to fix that issue. You ever heard of the tactic in that game were players would fill corpses with items and drag them to bases? People wish to become rich, and they all want advantages over others. There is nothing you can do to fix that. But giving everyone items, any items, will just make more issues.

@Tom, the hunger mod wouldn't be that stupid. So stop thinking like that. If anything it would make you run slower and make you weaker. I also suggested it follow the Server's Clock. That way you don't need to feed every 5 minutes, more like every 2 hours.

It would be more realistic, like it should. You don't need to eat, but you will slowly become weaker over the hours while you play. I don't even know if you read my idea, or even tried to. It sounds like most people read up to 'Also a Hunger mod-' And they all respond "OMG! Noooooooooooooooo! Hunger mod iz stoopidz!"

Cause people shouldn't require a script to RP for them, And I have seen more RP recently with me making items easy to aquire then I have with no one having anything at all. Making items fuck all hard to get will make new players get insanely bored fast and cause them to leavenot to mention it will make people want to clutch to weapons and hold onto them and bitch when they die.
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

Quote from: Tom on 18-10-2010
Cause people shouldn't require a script to RP for them, And I have seen more RP recently with me making items easy to aquire then I have with no one having anything at all. Making items fuck all hard to get will make new players get insanely bored fast and cause them to leavenot to mention it will make people want to clutch to weapons and hold onto them and bitch when they die.

Again, the hunger mod wouldn't force you to eat. Just grab a piece of bread or two, and it eat it. You're done for the day.

And if new players get bored because it takes more then an hour to get a gun, then its their issue they don't have patience. SRP is turning into a item whoring game. No one can play without having a guns given to them.

Everyone has an addiction to items, and we need to get them off. If someone gets killed while wondering alone, well too bad. Such is life in the Zone.

Zone is supposed to be harsh. There are no giving trees.


This is just getting annoying, what I hear from other people everyday. So many issues. Always revolving around items.

Why do people go offtopic? Do you have a need to discuss this? Seriously.

1. Stop
2. Going
3. Off
4. Freaking
5. Topic

Why the fuck do all of you need the RP force fed to you?

"Oh papa Alucard, I can't possibly RP eating unless their is a script requiring me to! I am just to inept, and lazy!"

If you want to RP eating, do so, you don't need a fucking script to go, "Warrior needs food - badly!", I mean for fucks sake, are you all really so lazy that you literally can't take ten seconds to type, "/me eats some bread"?

Traders need higher paychecks, the higher their paycheck the more they get to send people on missions, the more missions they do, the higher rank as a trader they get, the higher rank as a trader, the more stuff they can sell. I.E. the traders will have a bigger incentive to give out missions to stalkers, and stimulate the economy.

Bring advance dupe back, because aren't RP'ing because there is nothing on the map, if you remove advance dupe, then why make an empty map? Factions don't make bases because they have to be set by an admin, or they'll have to do it all over again, i.e. no RP from them.

Redo the admin roster, shitty admins are active, and in high positions, good admins are inactive, and in high/low positions, with exceptions of course.

People need scripts to RP cause most of the players are too lazy.

Also, depending on the person, paychecks can help. Or do nothing at all.

Wait Wait Wait, So you are admiting you are too lazy to RP?
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

Quote from: Khorn on 24-10-2010
People need scripts to RP cause most of the players are too lazy.

Also, depending on the person, paychecks can help. Or do nothing at all.
Thank you for completely skimming my suggestion post, and then posting a completely uninformed opinion. You're a big help.

Also, forcing people to RP things that they shouldn't even be required to do in the first place, is a completely dumb, and fucked up thing.

Quote from: Tom on 24-10-2010
Wait Wait Wait, So you are admitting you are too lazy to RP?
Wait, let me rephrase what I said. People are too lazy to read anything.

Really, where did I say everyone, including myself, are too lazy?


Also, Alucard, what I was saying is that most people don't bother with the RP as much as they used to. Some do, most don't. Whenever I was in a bar, there were like 10 people inside. Only the trader and maybe 3 people said and did anything. And the so called 'Force Script' wouldn't cause anyone to be forced to do anything. They won't need to eat at all if they don't want to. But they can if they like to have somewhat better strength or speed. The script wouldn't kill you. It won't even say you are hungry if you don't want it. Have like a no notification check box.

As for the paychecks, as I said, it all depends on who is gonna use it. We had some traders hog all their cash and use it on themselves.

As for the advance dupe. It would be nice, but it caused issues. And with the current spawn a prop, lose a ruble. People will still not want to use it much. People don't build cause it has a buggy cost system. Even though its only a single ruble per item.

And as for the admin roster, I don't really know.

Quote from: Khorn on 24-10-2010
Quote from: Tom on 24-10-2010
Wait Wait Wait, So you are admitting you are too lazy to RP?
Wait, let me rephrase what I said. People are too lazy to read anything.

Really, where did I say everyone, including myself, are too lazy?


Also, Alucard, what I was saying is that most people don't bother with the RP as much as they used to. Some do, most don't. Whenever I was in a bar, there were like 10 people inside. Only the trader and maybe 3 people said and did anything. And the so called 'Force Script' wouldn't cause anyone to be forced to do anything. They won't need to eat at all if they don't want to. But they can if they like to have somewhat better strength or speed. The script wouldn't kill you. It won't even say you are hungry if you don't want it. Have like a no notification check box.

As for the paychecks, as I said, it all depends on who is gonna use it. We had some traders hog all their cash and use it on themselves.

As for the advance dupe. It would be nice, but it caused issues. And with the current spawn a prop, lose a ruble. People will still not want to use it much. People don't build cause it has a buggy cost system. Even though its only a single ruble per item.

And as for the admin roster, I don't really know.

Do you know how much we can all buy with that 4 rubles we will be saving off of advanced dupes!?!?!?!

[flash=500,30]http://www.youtube.com/v/9UousVNJaIM[/flash]

Actually it would be like how much one could buy with the 100+ rubles most of the advanced dupes would have cost in the doomfort era.

1. Make the sunrise suit cheaper then the mercenary suits.
2. We all know the sunrise is more common then the rookie one, Its way to expensive, Hardly anyone has it.
3. Make all the detector's item's, So people will have to buy one in order to have one icly.
4. Make the guitar play a sound when used. Like rp_voice sorta.
5. Anomolies, Do not destroy guns.

Quote from: Turkey on 24-10-2010
1. Make the sunrise suit cheaper then the mercenary suits.
2. We all know the sunrise is more common then the rookie one, Its way to expensive, Hardly anyone has it.
3. Make all the detector's item's, So people will have to buy one in order to have one icly.
4. Make the guitar play a sound when used. Like rp_voice sorta.
5. Anomolies, Do not destroy guns.
In stalker the sunrise suit is better then the mercenary suit.

Quote from: Khorn on 24-10-2010
Quote from: Tom on 24-10-2010
Wait Wait Wait, So you are admitting you are too lazy to RP?
Wait, let me rephrase what I said. People are too lazy to read anything.

Really, where did I say everyone, including myself, are too lazy?


Also, Alucard, what I was saying is that most people don't bother with the RP as much as they used to. Some do, most don't. Whenever I was in a bar, there were like 10 people inside. Only the trader and maybe 3 people said and did anything. And the so called 'Force Script' wouldn't cause anyone to be forced to do anything. They won't need to eat at all if they don't want to. But they can if they like to have somewhat better strength or speed. The script wouldn't kill you. It won't even say you are hungry if you don't want it. Have like a no notification check box.

As for the paychecks, as I said, it all depends on who is gonna use it. We had some traders hog all their cash and use it on themselves.

As for the advance dupe. It would be nice, but it caused issues. And with the current spawn a prop, lose a ruble. People will still not want to use it much. People don't build cause it has a buggy cost system. Even though its only a single ruble per item.

And as for the admin roster, I don't really know.

1.) If you think its a good idea to give players an advantage for having more money then you tthen you clearly don't understand what rp even is.

2.) Did you even read what I posted, because it clearly states that they can only advance tiers by giving missions, meaning the traders who horde will only get to sell beer, and food, such fun.

3.) Why that is even part of the script is beyond me.

If you mean an advantage because they actually ate some food, well then good for them. I'm not sure how much food cost currently in SRP, since I play Mono mostly, and haven't been on as much due to college. Maybe its expensive right now, but I'm just basing it off my last idea for the server economy, where food was relatively cheap to get, as in scavenge a pile of trash, and you get enough to buy a day's meal.

As for the trader thing, I can only hope the players are giving out missions. Again, I play mono, so I don't go visit any bars.

And the dupe being removed had a mix of good and bad. Doom forts, crashes, and general spam was removed. Easy reconstruction, always the same build, and something else. Same for the pay per prop thing. It makes sense, but is just really annoying.

Quote from: Khorn on 25-10-2010
If you mean an advantage because they actually ate some food, well then good for them. I'm not sure how much food cost currently in SRP, since I play Mono mostly, and haven't been on as much due to college. Maybe its expensive right now, but I'm just basing it off my last idea for the server economy, where food was relatively cheap to get, as in scavenge a pile of trash, and you get enough to buy a day's meal.

As for the trader thing, I can only hope the players are giving out missions. Again, I play mono, so I don't go visit any bars.

And the dupe being removed had a mix of good and bad. Doom forts, crashes, and general spam was removed. Easy reconstruction, always the same build, and something else. Same for the pay per prop thing. It makes sense, but is just really annoying.
So basically you've been making an opinion based on something you've not yet experienced? Very reassuring.

I have experienced, just not recently. I haven't been able to get any jobs with my stalker. As for food, it was usually handed out for free at the bars(when I was with Freedom), so eating was never an issue for me. I'd do it once a day if I was on for more then a couple of hours.

I RP eating at least 1 meal whenever I am on, and as far as other people doing it I don't give a flying fuck what they do, As long as they arn't minging/being unserious I am fine. Adding an eating script won't fix peoples RP its not the root of all evil at all, it would also run rookies and new players into the ground with the current cost. SO in conclusion it should be relatively EASY for little johnny the newby RPer to start up and get training from his fellow RPers.

Why do we not see any decent RPers? Cause everytime a new guy gets on no one bothers to teach them and I am ussally busy with other shit on the server. Don't like the fact people don't RP eating? Simply teach them how.
Quote from: TheAndyShandy on 05-12-2013
Oh boy.
Strap yourselves in, it's time for the great 'obligatory' SRP resurrection of 2013/14/15/16/22

Plunger stop trolling. Originally you were actually making points and now you are just looking for something to argue about.

And to answer your question Khorn food is more expensive than ammo currently. A lot more expensive than ammo. And ammo actually is needed. That is why people don't buy food.

1. Bandits,need more of em.cause when somebody donates,-he is merc.
2. Ammo in shipment,wtf,and lower price for it.
3. Sector42 or hgn_chernobyl is better than redemption..well..
4. Remove junk and paycheck,why should stalker-rookie get some paycheck?who is paying them?
5. Moar ppl on server :(


Jesus fuck you guys this "Stop paying paychecks" argument is retarded. It is a GAMEPLAY mechanic to allow new players to make some money. Without it things go to shit quicker than they usually do because ammo is too expensive.