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Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Knife_cz on 10-05-2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KtJKNgO_ys#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KtJKNgO_ys#ws) What exactly are you going to do about this? I mean Muslims yelling in streets, saying trash about your police..well.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 10-05-2013
Migrant Migraine? 'London will look like Islamabad in 50 years' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjvFhGH2eyo#ws)
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: nKe on 10-05-2013
What would Hitler think about all this?
Edit: IF he was still alive.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Vortigoat on 10-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 10-05-2013
What would Hitler think about all this?
Edit: IF he was still alive.

Hitler: ''Should've accepted that truce.''
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 10-05-2013
Quote from: Vortigoat on 10-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 10-05-2013What would Hitler think about all this? Edit: IF he was still alive.
Hitler: ''Should've accepted that truce.''
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 10-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 10-05-2013
Quote from: Vortigoat on 10-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 10-05-2013What would Hitler think about all this? Edit: IF he was still alive.
Hitler: ''Should've accepted that truce.''
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
God damn...  We really need to do somthing, this has gotten way out of hand now.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 14-05-2013
Related
Gruesome afghan Rape Marathon in Swedish refugee camp, Socialist:" It's racism to expel them" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSOOsmv7A_I#ws)
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: lolKieck on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 14-05-2013Related -video name-
basically the gypsy problem in eastern europe
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
So, we're aware of this of the situation, now how do we fix it?  Doubt the government will listen like they ever have done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXhPcnUQkfg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXhPcnUQkfg#)
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Madcombat on 14-05-2013now how do we fix it?

the damage is done. there isn't much else you can do unless something really catastrophic happens that would change everybody's mind on multiculturalism. starting a campaign against it would make you racist. good luck in londonistan, madcombat.

mandatory symbolism to prove everybody that diversity is strength (http://i.imgur.com/zvaPcy7.png)
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lucky Pig on 14-05-2013
Employ the skinheads. And are you implying that the people who are ready to try and change the situation care about being called racist anyways?
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 14-05-2013Employ the skinheads. And are you implying that the people who are ready to try and change the situation care about being called racist anyways?

no they don't care because the term racist means little nowadays. it's as good of a joke like the term 'fascist' which nowadays has been distorted so much that the ideology itself has little to do with its actual meaning.

what matters is that being labeled racist essentially means you can be imprisoned/fined and your attempts at reform will be either ignored or mocked.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Madcombat on 14-05-2013now how do we fix it?
the damage is done. there isn't much else you can do unless something really catastrophic happens that would change everybody's mind on multiculturalism. starting a campaign against it would make you racist. good luck in londonistan, madcombat. mandatory symbolism to prove everybody that diversity is strength (http://i.imgur.com/zvaPcy7.png)

Oh don't worry Jake, once England is Islamic more countries will follow.  Soon your children's children will be praying to Allah.   The only way truly around this is to fight a civil war and if one is to come, I hope we use logic that we have misplaced for so long to good use for once in our damn lives.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lucky Pig on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Madcombat on 14-05-2013now how do we fix it?
the damage is done. there isn't much else you can do unless something really catastrophic happens that would change everybody's mind on multiculturalism. starting a campaign against it would make you racist. good luck in londonistan, madcombat. mandatory symbolism to prove everybody that diversity is strength (http://i.imgur.com/zvaPcy7.png)

Oh don't worry Jake, once England is Islamic more countries will follow.  Soon your children's children will be praying to Allah.   The only way truly around this is to fight a civil war and if one is to come, I hope we use logic that we have misplaced for so long to good use for once in our damn lives.
The Nordic and Baltic countries will be the last ones to fall, if it comes to that. And as far as I know, Christians are growing at a faster pace than Muslims  Sad part is that it's spreading in third world countries damn it.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
Actually, a lot of Christians are converting.  Stupid bastards, we bitched about how Religion especially Christianity was god awful and now we need it more then ever.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Knife_cz on 14-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 14-05-2013Related -video name-
basically the gypsy problem in eastern europe
So true
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: lolKieck on 14-05-2013
Yeah, silly atheists. On a more serious note, Christianity is growing in Asia, not in Europe. Religion-wise I still don't understand why atheists bitched about Christianity anyway. Well, other than the bishop corruption subject. I condemn it too.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: nKe on 14-05-2013
Shit's gonna go down sooner or later. Until that, you just need to wait until muslims start attacking the only people who are protecting them from "racists" like us.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 14-05-2013Shit's gonna go down sooner or later. Until that, you just need to wait until muslims start attacking the only people who are protecting them from "racists" like us.

Indeed, the main issue with this country however is that the British people are lazy.  No one gives a shit about the issues around them and we only bitch about it when its happening, the other issue is this.  No one likes to discuss or debate, the key thing to anything is just thrown away.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Paintcheck on 14-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 14-05-2013Yeah, silly atheists. On a more serious note, Christianity is growing in Asia, not in Europe. Religion-wise I still don't understand why atheists bitched about Christianity anyway. Well, other than the bishop corruption subject. I condemn it too.

Here in America people who bitch about Christianity aren't bitching because Christians have religion but rather because they are mixing religion and politics to fuck shit up. For example: gay marriage. There is no reason at all why that should be illegal other than the hardcore Christians thinking it's a sin against their religion. That's not how a country should be run. You should not take civil rights from someone because you disagree with his/her lifestyle.

No one cares about your religion until you start using it to oppress other people which in this day and age seems to be about the only thing organized religion is used for. I was raised "sort of" Catholic but I was fortunate to attend a church when I was young that was very liberal for a Catholic institution. They made sure at the end of every service to welcome the people who were attending who weren't Catholic and who weren't even Christian. I didn't realize how unusual that was until I went to church with my grandparents across the country. Their church is ultraconservative and they repeatedly complained about abortion and condemned non-Catholics during the service. 

Unfortunately most churches are more like the latter example, intolerant and backwards. I refuse to visit my grandparents on Saturdays (when they go to church) because I don't want to be apart of that.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
Quote from: Paintcheck on 14-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 14-05-2013Yeah, silly atheists. On a more serious note, Christianity is growing in Asia, not in Europe. Religion-wise I still don't understand why atheists bitched about Christianity anyway. Well, other than the bishop corruption subject. I condemn it too.
Here in America people who bitch about Christianity aren't bitching because Christians have religion but rather because they are mixing religion and politics to fuck shit up. For example: gay marriage. There is no reason at all why that should be illegal other than the hardcore Christians thinking it's a sin against their religion. That's not how a country should be run. You should not take civil rights from someone because you disagree with his/her lifestyle. No one cares about your religion until you start using it to oppress other people which in this day and age seems to be about the only thing organized religion is used for.

Which is exactly the issue here, I've no issue with any Muslim individual but the majority of them have a thing in common, lack of respect both for the country and the people.  They bring there ways over here and attempt to enforce them.   Then theirs the stupid women of this country who just cant wait to suck a diverse amount of cocks (Except white people) all due to the Media.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lucky Pig on 14-05-2013
We have something like 4% muslims here in Finland, or rather around 4% immigrants as far as I know. Too lazy to go to Wikipedia.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Vortigoat on 14-05-2013
It is my task to weed out the problem at it's source in the Netherlands
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Madcombat on 14-05-2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG0_0Ietq5Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG0_0Ietq5Q#ws)

Its pretty true.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 14-05-2013
Not all muslims are terrorists but alot are pedofiles.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-22438623 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-22438623)

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Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 14-05-2013
British Rapists and Pedophiles Converting to Islam in Prison

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/british-rapists-and-pedophiles-converting-to-islam-in-prison/ (http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/british-rapists-and-pedophiles-converting-to-islam-in-prison/)

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Welcome to Whitemoor Prison where the inmates are in charge (http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/publications/research-and-analysis/moj-research/staff-prisoner-relations-whitemoor.pdf), the guards are terrorized and paedophiles and rapists are flocking to Islam.
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Whitemoor no longer operated  with Vulnerable Prisoner  (VP) Units, so sex offenders were dispersed around the main  wings.  Being admitted to the Muslim community as the most influential religious group in the prison granted them the certainty of being backed up in precarious situations by a large number of 'brothers'
Finally there is a group in prison that welcomes rapists and paedophiles. By no coincidence, it's a religion whose prophet was both a rapist and a paedophile.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: nKe on 15-05-2013
Doesn't their bookthingies tell them to obey laws of the land?
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 15-05-2013Doesn't their bookthingies tell them to obey laws of the land?

No, it tells them pedophilia is okay cause Muhammad had a 6 year old girl as his sexual partner.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lucky Pig on 15-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 15-05-2013Doesn't their bookthingies tell them to obey laws of the land?

No, it tells them pedophilia is okay cause Muhammad had a 6 year old girl as his sexual partner.
I wonder if you actually read it...
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 15-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 15-05-2013Doesn't their bookthingies tell them to obey laws of the land?
No, it tells them pedophilia is okay cause Muhammad had a 6 year old girl as his sexual partner.
I wonder if you actually read it...

the fact that a considerable percent of child molesters are of muslim faith and middle eastern origin must have something to do with the crimes.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: lolKieck on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 15-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 15-05-2013Doesn't their bookthingies tell them to obey laws of the land?
No, it tells them pedophilia is okay cause Muhammad had a 6 year old girl as his sexual partner.
I wonder if you actually read it...
the fact that a considerable percent of child molesters are of muslim faith and middle eastern origin must have something to do with the crimes.
It's not really the muslim faith. It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lucky Pig on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Lucky Pig on 15-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 15-05-2013Doesn't their bookthingies tell them to obey laws of the land?
No, it tells them pedophilia is okay cause Muhammad had a 6 year old girl as his sexual partner.
I wonder if you actually read it...
the fact that a considerable percent of child molesters are of muslim faith and middle eastern origin must have something to do with the crimes.
It's not really the muslim faith. It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
'Yall gotta get that pussy somewhere, right?
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.

Yes clearly poverty makes people want young girls in their beds.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lent23 on 15-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.

Yes clearly poverty makes people want young girls in their beds.
And clearly living in the United Kingdom makes you a bigoted asshole.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Maxi96203 on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Lent23 on 15-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.

Yes clearly poverty makes people want young girls in their beds.
And clearly living in the United Kingdom makes you a bigoted asshole.

muh muzlimz!
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Paintcheck on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 15-05-2013Doesn't their bookthingies tell them to obey laws of the land?

While I am unfamiliar with the Quaran (or however it's spelled) I have heard that in England a lot of the Muslim communities operate under Sharia (another spellcheck) law with members of the community pressured not to seek outside help but to rather solve problems through these "community courts." I would assume for things like murder they probably use the police for that but for civil matters like divorce I've heard more than one story about wives being pressured or shunned for trying to initiate a divorce and things like that.
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Post by: jaik on 16-05-2013
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Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Lent23 on 15-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 15-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.
Yes clearly poverty makes people want young girls in their beds.
And clearly living in the United Kingdom makes you a bigoted asshole.

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Jake: liberal is strong in this one
Jake: he called you a bigot but didn't even bother to refute anything we posted
SilverKnight: Either brandon supports pedophilia (Personal Experience perhaps?) to be legalized or he's still mad at being removed from military due to trying to turn it into mass effect.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: lolKieck on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.
It doesn't, but from all the violence they're surrounded with, probably also from parental figures, they are taught by the inefficiency of the law enforcement organizations that they won't have many bad consequences after a sexual assault or abuse.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 16-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.
It doesn't, but from all the violence they're surrounded with, probably also from parental figures, they are taught by the inefficiency of the law enforcement organizations that they won't have many bad consequences after a sexual assault or abuse.
Their pedophilia is purely cultural and religious. There's no direct connection between pedophilia and failure of parenting/poverty/violence.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia)

QuotePedophilia is permitted in the Quran, was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and his companions, and some Muslims today continue to commit the crime, following their prophet's example (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Sunnah).
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: lolKieck on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 16-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.
It doesn't, but from all the violence they're surrounded with, probably also from parental figures, they are taught by the inefficiency of the law enforcement organizations that they won't have many bad consequences after a sexual assault or abuse.
Their pedophilia is purely cultural and religious. There's no direct connection between pedophilia and failure of parenting/poverty/violence. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia)
QuotePedophilia is permitted in the Quran, was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and his companions, and some Muslims today continue to commit the crime, following their prophet's example (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Sunnah).
Ohh... I've got nothing on that then.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Knife_cz on 16-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 16-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Jake on 15-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 15-05-2013It's the poverty people in the Middle East live in.
yes you are right. poverty gives people an inclination to pedophilia. and also gives them the right to sexually abuse minors.
It doesn't, but from all the violence they're surrounded with, probably also from parental figures, they are taught by the inefficiency of the law enforcement organizations that they won't have many bad consequences after a sexual assault or abuse.
Their pedophilia is purely cultural and religious. There's no direct connection between pedophilia and failure of parenting/poverty/violence. http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia)
QuotePedophilia is permitted in the Quran, was practiced by Prophet Muhammad and his companions, and some Muslims today continue to commit the crime, following their prophet's example (http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Sunnah).
Ohh... I've got nothing on that then.
Do you 'like' little children? Follow the Islam today!

Great motto to recruit some new guise into their religion.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-05-2013
To play devil's advocate here:

The Bible condones slavery and hate crimes against homosexuals. Saying "All Muslims are pedophiles because their ancient holy book (written in a time when such things were not considered repulsive) includes references to it" is rather close-minded, that'd be like saying all Christians hate all gays and still think they should be allowed to own slaves, neither of which is true. Overgeneralized blanket statements do not further your cause. I have several Muslim friends who are not child rapist murdering terrorists.
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Post by: Silver Knight on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-05-2013To play devil's advocate here: The Bible condones slavery and hate crimes against homosexuals. Saying "All Muslims are pedophiles because their ancient holy book (written in a time when such things were not considered repulsive) includes references to it" is rather close-minded, that'd be like saying all Christians hate all gays and still think they should be allowed to own slaves, neither of which is true. Overgeneralized blanket statements do not further your cause. I have several Muslim friends who are not child rapist murdering terrorists.

The Quran also condones slavery and hate crimes against homosexuals. Besides this thread is about Islam, not Christianity.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Paintcheck on 16-05-2013
For you to say "All Muslims are bad because the Quaran has some passages in it about bad things" is bigoted as Lent said for the reason I just described above.

I bet if you looked hard enough in the Bible (and maybe the Torah, I'm not very familiar with Judaism) you'd find similar passages about young wives. That's a very stupid thing to complain about. Muslim communities harassing and intimidating people? Yes that's a problem. Being angry because a several thousand year old book has a passage in it about sleeping with underaged women and therefore all people of that faith are somehow subhuman? That's a stretch, to put it lightly.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-05-2013For you to say "All Muslims are bad because the Quaran has some passages in it about bad things" is bigoted as Lent said for the reason I just described above. I bet if you looked hard enough in the Bible (and maybe the Torah, I'm not very familiar with Judaism) you'd find similar passages about young wives. That's a very stupid thing to complain about. Muslim communities harassing and intimidating people? Yes that's a problem. Being angry because a several thousand year old book has a passage in it about sleeping with underaged women and therefore all people of that faith are somehow subhuman? That's a stretch, to put it lightly.

I never said all Muslims are bad. Islam is bad, the religion\theory. People are individual at the end of the day, but following such corrupt doctrine and believing it to be the word of god is the issue here. In the cases supplied above, abused to condone pedophilia.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lucky Pig on 16-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 16-05-2013
Quote from: Paintcheck on 16-05-2013For you to say "All Muslims are bad because the Quaran has some passages in it about bad things" is bigoted as Lent said for the reason I just described above. I bet if you looked hard enough in the Bible (and maybe the Torah, I'm not very familiar with Judaism) you'd find similar passages about young wives. That's a very stupid thing to complain about. Muslim communities harassing and intimidating people? Yes that's a problem. Being angry because a several thousand year old book has a passage in it about sleeping with underaged women and therefore all people of that faith are somehow subhuman? That's a stretch, to put it lightly.
I never said all Muslims are bad. Islam is bad, the religion\theory. People are individual at the end of the day, but following such corrupt doctrine and believing it to be the word of god is the issue here. In the cases supplied above, abused to condone pedophilia.

I disagree. If you believed the bible to the letter, as Paintcheck said, you would probably be just as bad. You can't blame the religion for idiotic cultists/believers. It's basically like gun violence has been recently, and I'll employ the argument you all have probably heard: "Religions don't rape people, people rape people". 

Alas my time is running out and I have to fly.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Vortigoat on 17-05-2013
What's so bad against slavery and hate crimes against homosexuals?
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Knife_cz on 17-05-2013
Quote from: Vortigoat on 17-05-2013What's so bad against slavery and hate crimes against homosexuals?
You also belive that Holocaust never happend, why would anybody actually bother with you?
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: deluxulous on 17-05-2013
The problem is that their home countries are shit. I think the only way (which is extremely hard to carry out and execute) is to turn their home countries into some sort of stable, habitual place without crazy dictators trying to make nukes. Of course that has been tried before and it hasn't really succeeded except in the case of Iraq.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Otto on 17-05-2013
Quote from: Vortigoat on 17-05-2013
What's so bad against slavery and hate crimes against homosexuals?

yeah fuck human rights

any opinion you give for the rest of your life will have zero credibility
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: lolKieck on 17-05-2013
Quote from: PistolKid on 17-05-2013The problem is that their home countries are shit. I think the only way (which is extremely hard to carry out and execute) is to turn their home countries into some sort of stable, habitual place without crazy dictators trying to make nukes. Of course that has been tried before and it hasn't really succeeded except in the case of Iraq.
Iraq being stable? Pssh, hahahahahaha.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 17-05-2013
Quote from: Vortigoat on 17-05-2013What's so bad against slavery and hate crimes against homosexuals?
slavery is just economically inefficient.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Otto on 17-05-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 17-05-2013
Quote from: PistolKid on 17-05-2013The problem is that their home countries are shit. I think the only way (which is extremely hard to carry out and execute) is to turn their home countries into some sort of stable, habitual place without crazy dictators trying to make nukes. Of course that has been tried before and it hasn't really succeeded except in the case of Iraq.
Iraq being stable? Pssh, hahahahahaha.

still better than afghanistan
and syria
and a shitload of other countries

we actually did a decent job with that 2007 surge in iraq but it's more convenient for people to ignore that
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 17-05-2013
Execution 10 Assadi by Jabhat Al-Nusra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTWFk4wa9HA#)

Quote(Reuters) - A video published on Thursday showed fighters of the al Qaeda-linked Nusra Front in Syria executing 11 men they accused of taking part in massacres by President Bashar al-Assad's forces.

The film is believed to be from eastern Deir al-Zor province and dates from some time in 2012, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an opposition monitoring group.

The Observatory's head, Rami Abdelrahman, said the Nusra Front has recently been releasing several videos of their past operations. He said the man seen executing the prisoners in the video - a Nusra commander - had been killed in March 2013 in battles with local tribes in the province.

The footage shows the commander, his face covered in a black balaclava, shooting each prisoner in the back of the head as they kneeled, blindfolded and lined up in a row in the sand.

"The sharia court for the eastern region in Deir al-Zor has sentenced to death these apostate soldiers that committed massacres against our brothers and families in Syria," the executioner said on the video.

Islamist militants with black flags shouted "God is great" as each man was shot. The executioner returned to some victims, firing more bullets into them to make sure they were dead.

Videos of executions and torture have become increasingly common in Syria, where more than 94,000 people have been killed in a conflict now in its third year, according to the British-based Observatory, which has a network of activists in Syria.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...m_hp_ref=world (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/16/syria-execution-video-jabhat-al-nusra-jihadists-kill-regime-supporters_n_3284806.html?utm_hp_ref=world)
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Otto on 17-05-2013
and that's where m16s are going to end up
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: INA7HAN on 18-05-2013
Quote from: Otto on 17-05-2013
and that's where m16s are going to end up
And most likely L85A2's
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: nKe on 18-05-2013
Quote from: INA7HAN on 18-05-2013
Quote from: Otto on 17-05-2013and that's where m16s are going to end up
And most likely L85A2's
Gear?
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 23-05-2013
Quote"Police are currently attending a major incident in Woolwich, south east London, after being called to reports of an "assault".Further details of the incident on John Wilson St, Greenwich are unknown, but some reports suggest a shooting has taken place.
Other reports suggested a person had been beheaded, but no details have been confirmed.

A man working nearby told News Shopper: "All I heard was a couple of people had been shot.
"It was about an hour or so ago. I heard they were trying to behead someone and were shot by police."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/470116/20130522/shooting-woolwich-police-beheading-john-wilson-street.htm (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/470116/20130522/shooting-woolwich-police-beheading-john-wilson-street.htm)

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Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 23-05-2013
Quote from: SilverKnight on 23-05-2013
Quotethey were trying to behead someone and were shot by police
another white man(in this case a soldier even) was lost to black muslims.

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Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: INA7HAN on 23-05-2013
The man was killed and it took 20 minutes for Armed Response Unit to get there when they got there the killers charged the police immediately and were shot. All this was in the name of Allah.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a7cmijwvpD4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a7cmijwvpD4)
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Maxi96203 on 23-05-2013
i guess the poles won't be saving yurop this time.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Lucky Pig on 23-05-2013
Quote from: INA7HAN on 23-05-2013
The man was killed and it took 20 minutes for Armed Response Unit to get there when they got there the killers charged the police immediately and were shot. All this was in the name of Allah.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a7cmijwvpD4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a7cmijwvpD4)
At first I thought that man in the video was some sandnigger. You guys really like to twist the language.
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Otto on 23-05-2013
animals

seeing a guy killed this way (and in his own goddamn country) is just fucking tragic. I really hope there's some kind of hell waiting for these people
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Knife_cz on 24-05-2013
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-video-watch-shocking-1907772 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woolwich-attack-video-watch-shocking-1907772)
Title: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Tom on 28-05-2013
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Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Silver Knight on 28-08-2013
Muslim Demographics: The Truth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mINChFxRXQs#ws)

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3770/the_islamic_future_of_britain (http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3770/the_islamic_future_of_britain)
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: lolKieck on 28-08-2013
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I'm sorry, I just had to share it.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 28-08-2013
Quote from: lolKieck on 28-08-2013
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I'm sorry, I just had to share it.
clearly our only solution
/debate
/thread
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Recreas on 28-08-2013
It's not just happening in Britain but also in the rest of (Western)Europe, for example here in the Netherlands no-one dares to go up against islamic people in public anymore, a lot of those that have done so before in the past say 20 years have been simply shot or stabbed to death. Those extremists are simply eliminating all the good politicians here so their Islamisation of the country can go on it's merry way without too much struggle. And now in France for example, still nowadays, two years after they banned the burka they still get heavy riots that end up in fire-fights. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me, is it that hard to understand that with your full body covered you look like you are about to commit a crime?

I have nothing against other cultures, but let the Brits be Anglo-Saxon, The Germans be German, The Chinese be Chinese and the Iranese be Iranese.
We're not invading them with terrorists are we?
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Recreas on 28-08-2013
I have nothing against other cultures, but let the Brits be Anglo-Saxon, The Germans be German, The Chinese be Chinese and the Iranese be Iranese.
We're not invading them with terrorists are we?

hey watch your language, you're being racist. it's our duty to flood our countries with the people whose territory we colonized, despite the fact that we've already invested thousands of lives and trillions of dollars into third world after decolonization. also only white countries are for everyone.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Plunger on 28-08-2013
The problem is that people perceive Muslims as being a danger, or burden on society when the truth is that this image is only perpetuated when extremists make the news. We never hear the stories about the good Muslims who act just like everyone else, we hear about the bad ones that do something over the line because it's an attention grabber. The issue is other cultures have the same occurrence, they just aren't reported on as much. Take for example the myriad of crazy other religions, the Pentecostals, a sect of Christianity, who tell people to stop taking their HIV medicines and not to get treatment for their diseases. There's the West Boro baptist church who protest funerals of soldiers and just ask for people to beat them so they can sue, there are the cults like the Peoples Temple who did a mass suicide because of sheer craziness. There are a lot of people who give their religions bad names, but that doesn't mean everyone that's a part of it is inherently bad.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
The problem is that people perceive Muslims as being a danger, or burden on society when the truth is that this image is only perpetuated when extremists make the news. We never hear the stories about the good Muslims who act just like everyone else, we hear about the bad ones that do something over the line because it's an attention grabber. The issue is other cultures have the same occurrence, they just aren't reported on as much.
don't put anti-islam sentiment into the majority or even close to it. you're also closing your eyes on a lot of problems that were already pointed out here by saying 'oh the media just likes to point out the bad apples', which is also wrong. crimes committed by minorities are in fact under reported and down played, most don't even reach mainstream media in any way and maybe get some attention in local media. however if we take native crimes against foreigners, then it reaches the headlines of every media outlet. take zimmerman's case for example, all he essentially did was shoot a potential black thug in his neighborhood. this of course was overblown by the media as white discrimination against blacks, despite zimmerman not even being white.

saying that these people are exceptional/extremists would be a blind understatement
Muslim criminal gangs destroying Sweden and Scandinavia as a whole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrgahHegIc#ws)

Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
Take for example the myriad of crazy other religions, the Pentecostals, a sect of Christianity, who tell people to stop taking their HIV medicines and not to get treatment for their diseases. There's the West Boro baptist church who protest funerals of soldiers and just ask for people to beat them so they can sue, there are the cults like the Peoples Temple who did a mass suicide because of sheer craziness. There are a lot of people who give their religions bad names, but that doesn't mean everyone that's a part of it is inherently bad.

just like any organized religion, cults are about earning money. the examples you've brought aren't related to the topic.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Plunger on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Jake on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
The problem is that people perceive Muslims as being a danger, or burden on society when the truth is that this image is only perpetuated when extremists make the news. We never hear the stories about the good Muslims who act just like everyone else, we hear about the bad ones that do something over the line because it's an attention grabber. The issue is other cultures have the same occurrence, they just aren't reported on as much.
don't put anti-islam sentiment into the majority or even close to it. you're also closing your eyes on a lot of problems that were already pointed out here by saying 'oh the media just likes to point out the bad apples', which is also wrong. crimes committed by minorities are in fact under reported and down played, most don't even reach mainstream media in any way and maybe get some attention in local media. however if we take native crimes against foreigners, then it reaches the headlines of every media outlet. take zimmerman's case for example, all he essentially did was shoot a potential black thug in his neighborhood. this of course was overblown by the media as white discrimination against blacks, despite zimmerman not even being white.

saying that these people are exceptional/extremists would be a blind understatement
Muslim criminal gangs destroying Sweden and Scandinavia as a whole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrgahHegIc#ws)

Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
Take for example the myriad of crazy other religions, the Pentecostals, a sect of Christianity, who tell people to stop taking their HIV medicines and not to get treatment for their diseases. There's the West Boro baptist church who protest funerals of soldiers and just ask for people to beat them so they can sue, there are the cults like the Peoples Temple who did a mass suicide because of sheer craziness. There are a lot of people who give their religions bad names, but that doesn't mean everyone that's a part of it is inherently bad.

just like any organized religion, cults are about earning money. the examples you've brought aren't related to the topic.
And yet issues such as the 'ground zero mosque', are blown wildly out of proportion, and events like the Boston Marathon Bombing show the media and internet both  pointing out anyone with brown skin colours and bags claiming them to be the bombers. There is clearly some form of bias against Muslims present in the media.

And in dealing with crime I can break down the statistics.

48,000,000 people are over the age of 10.

88% of those people are Caucasian.

1.6% of those people are in the Other category, which includes Muslims.

Now there were 1,400,000 arrests two years ago.

79.6% of those arrests were Caucasian.

1.5% of them were Other.

That means 1,114,400 arrests of Caucasians, and only 21,000 arrests of Other (Which includes both Muslims, and eastern Chinese).

Which in total means that 2.73% of all Caucasians will be arrested, and 2.63% of all Other's will be arrested.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Recreas on 29-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Jake on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
The problem is that people perceive Muslims as being a danger, or burden on society when the truth is that this image is only perpetuated when extremists make the news. We never hear the stories about the good Muslims who act just like everyone else, we hear about the bad ones that do something over the line because it's an attention grabber. The issue is other cultures have the same occurrence, they just aren't reported on as much.
don't put anti-islam sentiment into the majority or even close to it. you're also closing your eyes on a lot of problems that were already pointed out here by saying 'oh the media just likes to point out the bad apples', which is also wrong. crimes committed by minorities are in fact under reported and down played, most don't even reach mainstream media in any way and maybe get some attention in local media. however if we take native crimes against foreigners, then it reaches the headlines of every media outlet. take zimmerman's case for example, all he essentially did was shoot a potential black thug in his neighborhood. this of course was overblown by the media as white discrimination against blacks, despite zimmerman not even being white.

saying that these people are exceptional/extremists would be a blind understatement
Muslim criminal gangs destroying Sweden and Scandinavia as a whole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrgahHegIc#ws)

Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
Take for example the myriad of crazy other religions, the Pentecostals, a sect of Christianity, who tell people to stop taking their HIV medicines and not to get treatment for their diseases. There's the West Boro baptist church who protest funerals of soldiers and just ask for people to beat them so they can sue, there are the cults like the Peoples Temple who did a mass suicide because of sheer craziness. There are a lot of people who give their religions bad names, but that doesn't mean everyone that's a part of it is inherently bad.

just like any organized religion, cults are about earning money. the examples you've brought aren't related to the topic.
And yet issues such as the 'ground zero mosque', are blown wildly out of proportion, and events like the Boston Marathon Bombing show the media and internet both  pointing out anyone with brown skin colours and bags claiming them to be the bombers. There is clearly some form of bias against Muslims present in the media.

And in dealing with crime I can break down the statistics.

48,000,000 people are over the age of 10.

88% of those people are Caucasian.

1.6% of those people are in the Other category, which includes Muslims.

Now there were 1,400,000 arrests two years ago.

79.6% of those arrests were Caucasian.

1.5% of them were Other.

That means 1,114,400 arrests of Caucasians, and only 21,000 arrests of Other (Which includes both Muslims, and eastern Chinese).

Which in total means that 2.73% of all Caucasians will be arrested, and 2.63% of all Other's will be arrested.

Kind of wondering what your source is, I also assume that you aren't talking about the whole world, because a lot of crimes aren't even reported and taken into account when statistics like those are formed.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Plunger on 29-08-2013
Quote from: Recreas on 29-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Jake on 28-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
The problem is that people perceive Muslims as being a danger, or burden on society when the truth is that this image is only perpetuated when extremists make the news. We never hear the stories about the good Muslims who act just like everyone else, we hear about the bad ones that do something over the line because it's an attention grabber. The issue is other cultures have the same occurrence, they just aren't reported on as much.
don't put anti-islam sentiment into the majority or even close to it. you're also closing your eyes on a lot of problems that were already pointed out here by saying 'oh the media just likes to point out the bad apples', which is also wrong. crimes committed by minorities are in fact under reported and down played, most don't even reach mainstream media in any way and maybe get some attention in local media. however if we take native crimes against foreigners, then it reaches the headlines of every media outlet. take zimmerman's case for example, all he essentially did was shoot a potential black thug in his neighborhood. this of course was overblown by the media as white discrimination against blacks, despite zimmerman not even being white.

saying that these people are exceptional/extremists would be a blind understatement
Muslim criminal gangs destroying Sweden and Scandinavia as a whole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMrgahHegIc#ws)

Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
Take for example the myriad of crazy other religions, the Pentecostals, a sect of Christianity, who tell people to stop taking their HIV medicines and not to get treatment for their diseases. There's the West Boro baptist church who protest funerals of soldiers and just ask for people to beat them so they can sue, there are the cults like the Peoples Temple who did a mass suicide because of sheer craziness. There are a lot of people who give their religions bad names, but that doesn't mean everyone that's a part of it is inherently bad.

just like any organized religion, cults are about earning money. the examples you've brought aren't related to the topic.
And yet issues such as the 'ground zero mosque', are blown wildly out of proportion, and events like the Boston Marathon Bombing show the media and internet both  pointing out anyone with brown skin colours and bags claiming them to be the bombers. There is clearly some form of bias against Muslims present in the media.

And in dealing with crime I can break down the statistics.

48,000,000 people are over the age of 10.

88% of those people are Caucasian.

1.6% of those people are in the Other category, which includes Muslims.

Now there were 1,400,000 arrests two years ago.

79.6% of those arrests were Caucasian.

1.5% of them were Other.

That means 1,114,400 arrests of Caucasians, and only 21,000 arrests of Other (Which includes both Muslims, and eastern Chinese).

Which in total means that 2.73% of all Caucasians will be arrested, and 2.63% of all Other's will be arrested.

Kind of wondering what your source is, I also assume that you aren't talking about the whole world, because a lot of crimes aren't even reported and taken into account when statistics like those are formed.
I'm only talking about the United Kingdom, and I'm using documents published by the Ministry of Justice.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: nKe on 29-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
48,000,000 people are over the age of 10.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think you can get arrested (Kid arrests are rarely counted in the statistics because they serve their sentence after they've hit 18.) if you're under 17?
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Plunger on 29-08-2013
Quote from: Nik3 on 29-08-2013
Quote from: Plunger on 28-08-2013
48,000,000 people are over the age of 10.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think you can get arrested (Kid arrests are rarely counted in the statistics because they serve their sentence after they've hit 18.) if you're under 17?
Arrests are different then charges and convictions. Minors can be arrested but whether their charged with a crime or convicted is a different matter.
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: jaik on 17-09-2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-24130079 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-24130079)

lmao jailed for 1 year because bacon
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: INA7HAN on 18-09-2013
Quote from: Jake on 17-09-2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-24130079 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-24130079)

lmao jailed for 1 year because bacon
I'm planning on dressing like a pig and going into a mosque....
Title: Re: UK n' Muslims.
Post by: Plunger on 22-09-2013
Quote from: INA7HAN on 18-09-2013
Quote from: Jake on 17-09-2013
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-24130079 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-24130079)

lmao jailed for 1 year because bacon
I'm planning on dressing like a pig and going into a mosque....
What a dick thing to do. They don't care if you're dressed as a sheep, they only care about eating it, and touching it because it's perceived as unclean.