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Obama Admits He Is A Muslim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY#)

Further truth;
http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm (http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm)

Knowing you Exile, I bet you don't approve.

Obama is a sick bastard, He can go straight to hell for what he has done to this country.

Quote from: Wings on 16-08-2010
Obama is a sick bastard, He can go straight to hell for what he has done to this country.

Wrong.

Obama, he has some pretty valid points. Americans blame all Muslims just because some psychos who are not good in the head decided to blow up their twin towers and kill them selves. There is also talk about Bush being involved in that and being guilty. Not to mention incindeary(don't have a clue how to spell it) grenades that were heard by the janitor. Look it up on youtube there was an investigation, If America decides to be a Muslim hating and killing nation then by all means they are as bad as the terrorists are. There will always be terrorists, no matter what religion. Those who are like I said not good in the head. Not to mention how media twists and turns the story and tries to make Obama guilty as much as possible. Everyone has a right to choose any religion they like and believe in whatever they want as it's in human nature to believe into something.

QuoteFreedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion. Freedom of religion is considered by many people and nations to be a fundamental human right. Thomas Jefferson said (1807) "among the inestimable of our blessings, also, is that ...of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable to His will; ..." In a country with a state religion, freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion, and does not persecute believers in other faiths.

Also Binladen, I don't know if you lot watch National Geographic but one of the soldiers who was assigned to a team to capture him was ordered from the top to stand down and not move into the complex in which Binladen was. Even when they requested an air strike to simply bury them in their tunnels , it was denied, giving Binladen enough time to escape.
Just watching this video made me lol at the media the way they put the story to blind all of America and to hate more and more innocent Muslims. Yes I said innocent Muslims. Because some people don't mean you harm no matter what.

And to be quiet honest, my family is, most of them, muslim. Which makes me one too. But you can't call me one, since I was never that religious.

You go Dug^

Yup. Told'ja he's a gurd-damned Muslim. I bet he's in on the 9-11 too! He gave the gurd-damned Muslims all the stuff to do it with I tells ya!
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I don't see the problem. I have a few friends who are Muslims, they're not Muslims because they want to be out of personal choice, they are indoctrinated into the religion. They're not really strong members of their faith, they don't try and force Islam upon others and such.

Quote from: Bielecki on 16-08-2010
Knowing you Exile, I bet you don't approve.

He lied about his religion to gain the trust of others and favors islam over christianity and America for the most part is a christian and now potentially athiest nation. Obama got in by lies and bullshit- "CHANGEEEEEE!".

By the way, obama does not write his speeches people write it for him he just reads it off the telepromter - he's been dubbed the telepromtor president for that. So his "valid" points are just some script by a script writer.

I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Quote from: HostelEffect on 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Exactly.

Also Exile I think in a country like that he had to do it. At least he admitted it.

Quote from: HostelEffect on 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Obviously but obama is infact a muslin; he was born to a muslim father and his mother married another muslim who put obama into muslim schools. It was only until he decided to go into politics that he "went christian" obviously for the benifit of playing the "good christian politician".

Quote from: Last.Exile on 17-08-2010

Quote from: HostelEffect on 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Obviously but obama is infact a muslin; he was born to a muslim father and his mother married another muslim who put obama into muslim schools. It was only until he decided to go into politics that he "went christian" obviously for the benifit of playing the "good christian politician".

That's politicians for ya. They always have to lie about something.

Quote from: Last.Exile on 17-08-2010

Quote from: HostelEffect on 17-08-2010
I sense quote mining in the video, they cut off things he is saying pretty quickly so you can just hear things that possible incriminate him. I'm sure if they were to properly show all of the footage, you would hear somewhat of a different story.

Obviously but obama is infact a muslin; he was born to a muslim father and his mother married another muslim who put obama into muslim schools. It was only until he decided to go into politics that he "went christian" obviously for the benifit of playing the "good christian politician".

Its not his fault that americans are arses and put such a heavy load on Muslims, claiming them all to be extremists.
Id do the same if i was in his position.

Quote from: Last.Exile on 16-08-2010


He lied about his religion to gain the trust of others and favors islam over christianity and America for the most part is a christian and now potentially athiest nation.

It was a necessary evil, since alot of Americans have such an extremist view over Muslims.

nerds and republicans up in this thread

Quote from: Dug on 16-08-2010

Quote from: Wings on 16-08-2010
Obama is a sick bastard, He can go straight to hell for what he has done to this country.

Wrong.

Obama, he has some pretty valid points. Americans blame all Muslims just because some psychos who are not good in the head decided to blow up their twin towers and kill them selves. There is also talk about Bush being involved in that and being guilty. Not to mention incindeary(don't have a clue how to spell it) grenades that were heard by the janitor. Look it up on youtube there was an investigation, If America decides to be a Muslim hating and
killing nation then by all means they are as bad as the terrorists are. There will always be terrorists, no matter what religion. Those who are like I said not good in the head. Not to mention how media twists and turns the story and tries to make Obama guilty as much as possible. Everyone has a right to choose any religion they like and believe in whatever they want as it's in human nature to believe into something.

QuoteFreedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion. Freedom of religion is considered by many people and nations to be a fundamental human right. Thomas Jefferson said (1807) "among the inestimable of our blessings, also, is that ...of liberty to worship our Creator in the way we think most agreeable to His will; ..." In a country with a state religion, freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion, and does not persecute believers in other faiths.

Also Binladen, I don't know if you lot watch National Geographic but one of the soldiers who was assigned to a team to capture him was ordered from the top to stand down and not move into the complex in which Binladen was. Even when they requested an air strike to simply bury them in their tunnels , it was denied, giving Binladen enough time to escape.
Just watching this video made me lol at the media the way they put the story to blind all of America and to hate more and more innocent Muslims. Yes I said innocent Muslims. Because some people don't mean you harm no matter what.

And to be quiet honest, my family is, most of them, muslim. Which makes me one too. But you can't call me one, since I was never that religious.

I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\

Quote from: Wings on 16-08-2010

I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\

Oh look, an american said that.

Notice how your troops do the same? I mean americans getting blown up by a small ammount of explosive compared to you idiots droping 2000Lbs JDAMS on civilian populated areas, no wonder they hate you.

I have a friend in the British Army, and he witnessed a group of US Marines that thought it would be funny to fire a bunch of M203's through a school window full of children in afghanistan, kids died, a teacher lost her arm, and you say muslims are bad, perhaps you should also look into the dozens of other horrific things American soldiers have done before you critizise the entire muslim populace of being extremist.

Quote from: Steel on 18-08-2010

Quote from: Wings on 16-08-2010

I used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\

Oh look, an american said that.

Notice how your troops do the same? I mean americans getting blown up by a small ammount of explosive compared to you idiots droping 2000Lbs JDAMS on civilian populated areas, no wonder they hate you.

I have a friend in the British Army, and he witnessed a group of US Marines that thought it would be funny to fire a bunch of M203's through a school window full of children in afghanistan, kids died, a teacher lost her arm, and you say muslims are bad, perhaps you should also look into the dozens of other horrific things American soldiers have done before you critizise the entire muslim populace of being extremist.

Every single nation in Afghanistan has some retards in the army who try to amuse themself by killing/wounding/raping others.
Poland - fired mortar rounds onto a village, which was possibly clear of terrorists.

Wings, if you think ALL muslims are extremist fucks, try to see Bosnia & Herzegovina. Majority of them are muslims (right Dug ?).
Are they fighting christians or doing any bad to us ? No. They live peacefully with christian minority.

You too are extremist, thinking ALL of the Islam is bad. Ironic, isn't it ? Hating Islam, and muslims hating christians.

Muslims aren't just in middle east. They are everywhere, worldwide. Just like Christians. Take Turkey for example , they are all mostly Muslim a well developed country and haven't done anything to the US so far.

Muslim =/= Extremist


Most of the Muslim population doesn't do shit and live like any other man, woman and child. Middle east is cursed, there was always war in it, one way or an other.

Also what do you expect of a nation to do when they get invaded?
There are a lot of cover ups behind the whole war. As we know the usual US crap, "National Security".

QuoteEvery single nation in Afghanistan has some retards in the army who try to amuse themself by killing/wounding/raping others.
Poland - fired mortar rounds onto a village, which was possibly clear of terrorists.

Wings, if you think ALL muslims are extremist fucks, try to see Bosnia & Herzegovina. Majority of them are muslims (right Dug ?).
Are they fighting christians or doing any bad to us ? No. They live peacefully with christian minority.

You too are extremist, thinking ALL of the Islam is bad. Ironic, isn't it ? Hating Islam, and muslims hating christians.

Most of us are Muslim. But we have everything over here, Jews, Christians, everything. And people get along so well. You have Mosques, Cathedrals, Churches , Sinagoge(dunno how to spell) seperated by a few meters, and people never fight/complain/argue, it's all good, everyone gets along and passes trough there every single day, letting everyone do their thing. We even have atheists and no one is even touching them.

Most Americans are just misinformed by their media and this whole war is full of cover ups and crap like that. Terrorists would be Terrorists, they appear sooner or later.

Turkey is mostly muslim because they mass slaughted christians there.

/case closed

This debate is not about the people, it's about the intolerant backwards- hateful religion of "peace" that we call islam. The quran is the will of a war-mongering pedofile who used it to take over the middle east and beyond. Muhummad was no hero and he played on the minds of innocent people and still does to this day.

The reason some people who know muslim kids and think they are all "right" is because they actually see that islam's true message is wrong.

Also to refer to what i said before they call it the "religion of peace" for two reasons; one being that the orgininal first messages\verses that were "wrote" through mohammad by god (lol?) were peaceful before mohammad took it a step further to increase his war propoganda (Who's going to go against the word of god right?) and 2nd in the quran it states when all other nations\people are either dead\enslaved\converted\islamic there will be peace.

and potentially one of the most influental man in the world atm is muslim and is siding with islam on many fields- including that super mosque which is being build near where 9/11 happened. That's right one of the biggest mosques in america is being built right where 9/11 happened, a wise man once said, be intolerant to the tolerantless people.

/thread

To be honest, this isnt something that should be discussed here.

Anyways, Obama is not a Muslim and anyone who thinks he is must be a diehard Republican or racist. Then again, those go hand in hand.

EDIT:
oh wait I forgot 'misinformed eurofag' is also an option

Quote from: Dutch on 18-08-2010
Anyways, Obama is not a Muslim and anyone who thinks he is must be a diehard Republican or racist. Then again, those go hand in hand.

EDIT:
oh wait I forgot 'misinformed eurofag' is also an option

All you are spewing is typical politically correct bullshit, just shit that sounds pretty and open-minded. I will agree with your Republican portrayal, minus the racist part. I personally hate islamiphobist, mostly because they are just being phobic of them for no good reason and I can't find many except people like Pat Condell who actually have something to bitch about.

Here is where I stand on the issue. It's not impossible that Obama may be from Muslim origin, despite what he might say now since it is politically expedient to be a Christian when you are seeking political office in the United States, Obama might have joined the United Church of Christ to help purge any notion that he was a Muslim.  I mean, Tiger Woods is a Buddhist! Whodathunkit?

Here are some facts. There is an Islamic justice system laid out in the Qaran called Sharia Law, which does strip women of many of what should be their natural rights and allows people to be stoned for the smallest of crimes, some of which may not even crimes in America such as adultery. Sharia Law is already institutionalized in the UK and serves as a double standard in laws there. Sharia Law has been proposed by Islamic politicians in places such as Germany, Sweden, among many other countries. The second fact is Taqiyya, which allows Muslims to purposely deceive non-Muslims if helps Islam.

You decide for yourself. In my opinion, I would reject a Muslim that is following the Qaran text accurately. On the other hand, there are Muslims (particularly US citizens) who cherry pick and follow parts of the Qaran that they only like, in which case there is no need to an Islamic religion, they might as well be following their own hearts like they already are rather than deceive themselves.

Quote from: Wellington on 17-08-2010

QuoteI used to not be as racist against the Muslims, but when you watch videos of US soldiers getting their head blown off, and dying on the streets. I have no excuse but to hate them all. Call me what you want, But sorry the Quran says destroy the infidels, and all Muslims read the Quran. The way I see it, They want to kill us. SO I want to kill them.  :-\

Um, not true, what are you a xenophobic, 12 year old who's isolated from the mainstream in a security blanket, perhaps somewhere in the deep south? I'm going to rebuke your claim in one simple step. I have Muslim friends, they do not want to kill anyone. Once again, distinction between two different sects: Moderate (regular, overwhelming majority) VS. Minority, terrorist, extremists.





Oh wow, fallacies abound in that video, *coughs* QUOTE MINING*. *puts on Southern accent* I KNEW OBAMA WAS GOD DAMNED MAWSLIM! LIBERAL, SOCIALIST, MAOIST, MAWSLIM! Seriously? Might as well through some NWO, and Alex Jones in this thread to top off the stupidity. You know what? Even if he was a Muslim so what? It's better than a raving, fundamentalist, pentecostal who thinks the world is 6000 years old. Also what is wrong with Obama praising MODERATE Muslims, yes I used that word. I don't care if you say that the WHOLE of Islam says you have to be an extremist, the fact is there ARE moderates, and these are good people just as most atheists, Chrisians, Hindus, etc. are, so what, you'd rather have them believe what you say there religion truly says, and have there be 1.5 million Jihaadists in the world?! Okay, have it your way. Good for Obama saying that America isn't a Christian nation, it isn't, it's a nation of many faiths, beliefs and lack thereof. And to be honest I think it's a lot, lot more likely that Obama is a closet atheist than a Muslim. I'd say he's just a liberal Christian, I'm not one to delve into conspiracy BS, or start spewing Islamophobia. :V

No, I'm not a Redneck nor' do I live in the South. I live in the deep North, Don't assume things that you don't know. Like I said, Muslims read the Quran, It says to destroy the Infidels. They think that America is the Infidels or in other words, they want to destroy the USA. Well, They can suck my cock. How dare those smelly towelhead's build a Mosque at Ground Zero. Also, There is no need to say that I am a redneck, Or that I have never been out onto the Mainstream. You can bet your ass that I have traveled to more places around the world than you have buddy. Quit saying that Muslims are good people, I suppose 9/11 was a kind gesture? If Obama is a actually a Muslim, Then I think he needs to be kicked out of office. I believe that he is going to try and force Muslim ideas on people of the USA. That is very wrong, since the USA was founded by Christians ans their Christian ideas.


@Steel-You have no idea if this story was true, Where is the proof? What if you buddy was lying. I know what your going to say, "Well my buddy is a good guy, HEHEHE." Sorry, No proof, You don't even live in the USA, Don't stick your British nose in our Affairs please.
Even if that account was true, Payback is a BITCH. Don't blow up our buildings, We won't blow up your schools. Even the Children's minds are poisoned, They use them as meat shields, or to make bombs. They are just as bad as their Jihad mothers and fathers.
Also, you said "Notice how your troops do the same? I mean americans getting blown up by a small ammount of explosive compared to you idiots droping 2000Lbs JDAMS on civilian populated areas, no wonder they hate you." Well, this is a false statement. The Quran states to hate the infidels, and It was written thousands of years ago before the war. They have always hated us, your argument is invalid. Look up "The Christian Crusades" They hated us then too.

@lolkieck- Did Bosnia & Herzegovina blow up the twin towers? I didn't think so.
The reason that Bosnia & Herzegovina are not fighting us, is because they are too busy fighting other people. Yes, I am an Extremist, Too fucking bad for the muslims. They hated us billions of years ago, I am just returning the favor.

@Dug- I realize that not every muslims does these things, But EVERY  muslim reads the Quran. You know what it says, So they are either not following the Quran, or they are blowing someone else up.
"Also what do you expect of a nation to do when they get invaded?" They Hijacked an airplane and flew it into our building, We WERE over there to fight Al Queda, and then we realized that all Muslims want to kill us. Fuck it, kill them all.
The only reason that Muslims, and Christians get along so well in the US, is either that they are  blowing something up, Or they are going to blow something up.

@dutch- Yes, You are right, and Everyone else is wrong. -_-

Quote from: Steel on 18-08-2010
To be honest, this isnt something that should be discussed here.

I agree, I mean no hard feeling to anyone. I just want to get my point across.

Quote from: Wings on 18-08-2010

Quote from: Steel on 18-08-2010
To be honest, this isnt something that should be discussed here.

I agree, I mean no hard feeling to anyone. I just want to get my point across.

I'm suppose to be a Muslim, I never read Quran.

The thread can be summed up in the following sentence.

If you're a Democrat you love Obama, if you're a Republican you hate Obama.

Quote"Muslim American that condones the acts of Al Qaeda on September 11th, 2001 by-the-way. When you do, come back here and tell me about it."

Terrorist Training Camps in the US (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv1npwOZ0lk#)
Muslim Terrorist Training Camps in America - Feb 16, 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8FexoNO1M&feature=related#ws)
The Third Jihad: US Homegrown Terror Threat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-prkvbMG3gM&feature=related#)

DE-FUCKING-LIVERED

Any more Requests darling?

Quote from: Alucard on 18-08-2010
The thread can be summed up in the following sentence.

If you're a Democrat you love Obama, if you're a Republican you hate Obama.

I literally hate politicians, I am Republican Nor Democrat. every single Politician is corrupt now day, You CANNOT trust any politician.

Quote from: Dug on 18-08-2010

Quote from: Wings on 18-08-2010

Quote from: Steel on 18-08-2010
To be honest, this isnt something that should be discussed here.

I agree, I mean no hard feeling to anyone. I just want to get my point across.

I'm suppose to be a Muslim, I never read Quran.

That makes you a athiest dug! You should be proud.

Quote from: Wellington on 18-08-2010

Quote from: Wings on 18-08-2010

Quote"Muslim American that condones the acts of Al Qaeda on September 11th, 2001 by-the-way. When you do, come back here and tell me about it."

Terrorist Training Camps in the US (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv1npwOZ0lk#)
Muslim Terrorist Training Camps in America - Feb 16, 2009 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr8FexoNO1M&feature=related#ws)
The Third Jihad: US Homegrown Terror Threat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-prkvbMG3gM&feature=related#)

DE-FUCKING-LIVERED

Any more Requests darling?

Quote from: Alucard on 18-08-2010
The thread can be summed up in the following sentence.

If you're a Democrat you love Obama, if you're a Republican you hate Obama.

I literally hate politicians, I am Republican Nor Democrat. every single Politician is corrupt now day, You CANNOT trust any politician.

Okay Wings of course I agree with you about the radicals in America and I would say "fuck them" aswell, but you must realize this is still a small minority of Muslims. Not all American Muslims are like this. But yes this is a problem and I understand your feelings, but please don't judge the whole of the people. Judge the religion, fair enough, but realize that not all Muslims are evil people.

My point exactly.

omg ddnt u now mslims cusd 9/11

Quote from: Alucard on 18-08-2010
omg ddnt u now mslims cusd 9/11

I think I am crying.

OH MY GOD WHO FUCKING CARES IF OBAMA IS A MUSLIM OR A BUDDHIST OR A CHRISTIAN OR A SCIENTOLOGIST OR A MONKEYIST OR ANY BLOODY RELIGION ON EARTH

AAAAAAAAAAAH

/rant

(I removed your disrespectful image hostel, and as a warning, do not flame or there will be consequences. Express your opinion without directly insulting others please.)

Holy shit, some people are really intolerant.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Wings, you have no idea what it is like to try and live a normal life, and then to have your life changed through war. Because a small group of people attacked the twin towers, which was tragic and sad, you think that it is justified for soldiers to kill children in schools? What the fuck is wrong with you.

Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 18-08-2010
(I removed your disrespectful image hostel, and as a warning, do not flame or there will be consequences. Express your opinion without directly insulting others please.)

Holy shit, some people are really intolerant.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Wings, you have no idea what it is like to try and live a normal life, and then to have your life changed through war. Because a small group of people attacked the twin towers, which was tragic and sad, you think that it is justified for soldiers to kill children in schools? What the fuck is wrong with you.

When I saw that, I smiled, because it wasn't a plane.

Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 18-08-2010
(I removed your disrespectful image hostel, and as a warning, do not flame or there will be consequences. Express your opinion without directly insulting others please.)

Holy shit, some people are really intolerant.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Wings, you have no idea what it is like to try and live a normal life, and then to have your life changed through war. Because a small group of people attacked the twin towers, which was tragic and sad, you think that it is justified for soldiers to kill children in schools? What the fuck is wrong with you.

It's true though, the image was a metaphor for, "Planes are big dicks.".

Well, I'm just saying if you read the Quran...
I'm not saying that ALL Muslims are bad, But they need to me treated differently. When I go to the airport, I usually have Muslims on planes with me, I guess it makes me kind of paranoid. After 9/11, I think that we should have more restrictions on Muslims. Do you guys agree in putting a Mosque at Ground Zero? I think it's kind of disrespectful.

Quote from: Snurf on 18-08-2010
OH MY GOD WHO FUCKING CARES IF OBAMA IS A MUSLIM OR A BUDDHIST OR A CHRISTIAN OR A SCIENTOLOGIST OR A MONKEYIST OR ANY BLOODY RELIGION ON EARTH

AAAAAAAAAAAH

/rant

You must be young, Thats okay I hated politics until I got into College.

Quote from: Alucard on 18-08-2010
omg ddnt u now mslims cusd 9/11

omg did ya kno yo iz a dummay :P

Yes, I understan that I am intolerant, But's I'm kinda paranoid when shit blows up.

EXCLUDING the "good" Muslims, This is what war is really like. *Graphic*

http://www.thatsphucked.com/PhuckedImages/Nasty%20Accidents/Horrors%20Of%20War.jpg (http://www.thatsphucked.com/PhuckedImages/Nasty%20Accidents/Horrors%20Of%20War.jpg)

http://www.thatsphucked.com/images/DeathOnTheStreet/Sniper_Bullet_To_The_Head.jpg (http://www.thatsphucked.com/images/DeathOnTheStreet/Sniper_Bullet_To_The_Head.jpg)

http://www.thatsphucked.com/images/apache_shot_down.jpg (http://www.thatsphucked.com/images/apache_shot_down.jpg)

I like how you ignored when I called you out wings.

Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 18-08-2010
I like how you ignored when I called you out wings.

I also love how people say "I'm just saying" as if it excuses what they are about to say.

"Your mother is a fat dirty Nig***, i'm just sayin'"

This thread is made of people who don't know how to take in information from others to give them insite from another point of view so they can form a reasonable view on a topic.

A debate doesn't require people to respond to others points and arguments, but if you can manage to answer someone else's argument directly, it helps.

Wings, you know B&H isn't fighting ?
The civil war ended in like 1995.
And I agree with Locke, killing children in schools as a payback of 9/11 ?
Dude, you have to be sick, it's worse than grannies defending the Cross near the Presidents Palace.

Quote from: lolKieck on 19-08-2010
Wings, you know B&H isn't fighting ?
The civil war ended in like 1995.
And I agree with Locke, killing children in schools as a payback of 9/11 ?
Dude, you have to be sick, it's worse than grannies defending the Cross near the Presidents Palace.

Wasn't really a civil war, more like genocide. Serbs actually attacked us because they dreamed of Great Serbia, then we won and now Serbia is fairly smaller than B&H.

Also, nice one Locke.

Can we lock this thread ? It's useless talking about it. We can go on forever and nothing we will change, so better lock it now before some more flaming.

Quote from: Aresty on 19-08-2010
Can we lock this thread ? It's useless talking about it.

There's little you can do for this instance maybe, but talking about it, educating others on the topic so they can make informed decisions, that IS doing something, and it's more then you think.

If you told everyone you knew about this, about why people re-act a certain way and you try and get them to understand, then they will tell their friends, etc etc.

Your under-estimating the power you have as an individual, to affect your peers.

Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 18-08-2010
(I removed your disrespectful image hostel, and as a warning, do not flame or there will be consequences. Express your opinion without directly insulting others please.)

Holy shit, some people are really intolerant.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Wings, you have no idea what it is like to try and live a normal life, and then to have your life changed through war. Because a small group of people attacked the twin towers, which was tragic and sad, you think that it is justified for soldiers to kill children in schools? What the fuck is wrong with you.

Quote"Wings, you have no idea what it is like to try and live a normal life, and then to have your life changed through war."

How do you know that I do not know how to live a normal life? Do you know me in person? Have you ever been to war? Do you have any relatives that have? I do.

QuoteBecause a small group of people attacked the twin towers, which was tragic and sad, you think that it is justified for soldiers to kill children in schools? What the fuck is wrong with you.

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also, cocks.

Quote from: Steven :D on 19-08-2010
also, cocks.

+1 post count?

Quote from: Wings on 19-08-2010

Quote from: ㅎㅎLocke on 18-08-2010
(I removed your disrespectful image hostel, and as a warning, do not flame or there will be consequences. Express your opinion without directly insulting others please.)

Holy shit, some people are really intolerant.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Wings, you have no idea what it is like to try and live a normal life, and then to have your life changed through war. Because a small group of people attacked the twin towers, which was tragic and sad, you think that it is justified for soldiers to kill children in schools? What the fuck is wrong with you.

Quote"Wings, you have no idea what it is like to try and live a normal life, and then to have your life changed through war."

How do you know that I do not know how to live a normal life? Do you know me in person? Have you ever been to war? Do you have any relatives that have? I do.

QuoteBecause a small group of people attacked the twin towers, which was tragic and sad, you think that it is justified for soldiers to kill children in schools? What the fuck is wrong with you.

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also, cocks.

Quote from: Steven :D on 19-08-2010
also, cocks.

+1 post count?

All of your posts make you out to be a family of war lovers, you don't go to war to do good, but rather to kill as many people as possible, and I have no doubt your relatives will be dishonorably discharged.

Quote from: Wings on 18-08-2010
@Steel-You have no idea if this story was true, Where is the proof? What if you buddy was lying. I know what your going to say, "Well my buddy is a good guy, HEHEHE." Sorry, No proof, You don't even live in the USA, Don't stick your British nose in our Affairs please.
Even if that account was true, Payback is a BITCH. Don't blow up our buildings, We won't blow up your schools. Even the Children's minds are poisoned, They use them as meat shields, or to make bombs. They are just as bad as their Jihad mothers and fathers.
Also, you said "Notice how your troops do the same? I mean americans getting blown up by a small ammount of explosive compared to you idiots droping 2000Lbs JDAMS on civilian populated areas, no wonder they hate you." Well, this is a false statement. The Quran states to hate the infidels, and It was written thousands of years ago before the war. They have always hated us, your argument is invalid. Look up "The Christian Crusades" They hated us then too.

"British nose in our affairs."  You're hatred of any one who even looks like a Muslim is most certainly not on the National Agenda.  Also if his friend told him the story, then how is he sticking his nose around?  I honestly doubt he's going out of his way to see what the US is doing, he's just hearing stories of war crimes.

"Don't blow up our buildings we don't blow up your schools."  I do hope you realize those soldiers are just as bad as the terrorists who hijacked the planes?  Random attacks against civilians are by no means justified.  Honestly I'd be surprised if those soldiers are still in the army.  Not to mention an eye for an eye is a very flawed system.  The Babylonian laws ran on an eye for an eye and the city was eventually destroyed to quell anarchy.

"The Christian Crusades"  What you mean when every Christian Empire decided to reclaim the "Holy Land" from the people that were living there at the time?  So the people there decided to fight back?

Quote from: Wings on 18-08-2010
@lolkieck- Did Bosnia & Herzegovina blow up the twin towers? I didn't think so.
The reason that Bosnia & Herzegovina are not fighting us, is because they are too busy fighting other people. Yes, I am an Extremist, Too fucking bad for the muslims. They hated us billions of years ago, I am just returning the favor.

So if Bosnia & Herzegovina weren't fighting anyone else they'd be attacking us right?  Well I hate to be the one to point this out to you but they've been at peace for about 15 years.  So I'd say they've had ample time to start rallying out to kill you.  I've already stated that an eye for an eye is not smart, oh and you're not returning the favor, you're ranting on the internet.

Quote from: Wings on 18-08-2010
@Dug- I realize that not every muslims does these things, But EVERY  muslim reads the Quran. You know what it says, So they are either not following the Quran, or they are blowing someone else up.
"Also what do you expect of a nation to do when they get invaded?" They Hijacked an airplane and flew it into our building, We WERE over there to fight Al Queda, and then we realized that all Muslims want to kill us. Fuck it, kill them all.
The only reason that Muslims, and Christians get along so well in the US, is either that they are  blowing something up, Or they are going to blow something up.

So judging from this statement Muslims are meant to blow stuff up...
   
   1. The shahadah, which is the basic creed of Islam that must be recited under oath with the specific statement: "'ašhadu 'al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu wa 'ašhadu 'anna muħammadan rasūlu-llāh", or "I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God."
   2. Salah, or ritual prayer, which must be performed five times a day.
   3. Sawm, or fasting during the month of Ramadan. Muslims must not eat or drink (among other things) from dawn to dusk during this month, and must be mindful of other sins.
   4. Zakat, or alms-giving, which is giving a fixed portion of accumulated wealth by those who can afford it to help the poor or needy, and also to assist the spread of Islam. It is considered a religious obligation (as opposed to voluntary charity) that the well-off owe to the needy because their wealth is seen as a "trust from God's bounty". The Qur'an and the hadith also suggest a Muslim give even more as an act of voluntary alms-giving (sadaqah).
   5. The Hajj, which is the pilgrimage during the Islamic month of Dhu al-Hijjah in the city of Mecca. Every able-bodied Muslim who can afford it must make the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in his or her lifetime.

The Five Pillars of Islam don't mention blowing stuff up.

Quote from: Wings on 18-08-2010

You must be young, Thats okay I hated politics until I got into College.

Quote from: Wings on 19-08-2010

How do you know that I do not know how to live a normal life? Do you know me in person? Have you ever been to war? Do you have any relatives that have? I do.

There will be a day when you look at these posts and a massive wave of regret will flow into your body.

Let's all pass a motion that declares Wing as a bluntheaded intolerant guy. Who's with me?

Fueling the flame war is a great occupation

Wings, I have no doubt you have lived a normal life, but I do doubt that during the course of your life you have had a soldier shoot a 40mm grenade into your school to get even with someone who simply shares a similar religion with you.

I could debate you all day, And your Ego would be too large to win over. I will Cease...
I FUCKING LOVE MUSLIMS.

Quote from: Wings on 20-08-2010
I could debate you all day, And your Ego would be too large to win over. I will Cease...
I FUCKING LOVE MUSLIMS.

"I could debate with you all day, but your ego would be too large to defeat. I will cease.

I fucking love Muslims."

Protip: To even be qualified to win a debate, you need to at least try to use grammar.

Yes, The grammar that I used in all of my posts EXCEPT that one? O_o

Quote from: Wings on 20-08-2010
Yes, the grammar that I used in all of my posts except that one?

Fixed that for you.

War is a waste, we lost 2000 American on September 11th, so we decided to send thousands more to die in a war for revenge. Revenge just creates a cycle, if you get revenge on someone, they will surely come back to get revenge on you, and the cycle repeats. If we learn how to forgive or at the very least "ignore", you can at least stop typical hatred.

Who cares if Obama is a Muslim or not ?

Hes a good President.

Quote from: HostelEffect on 21-08-2010
War is a waste, we lost 2000 American on September 11th, so we decided to send thousands more to die in a war for revenge. Revenge just creates a cycle, if you get revenge on someone, they will surely come back to get revenge on you, and the cycle repeats. If we learn how to forgive or at the very least "ignore", you can at least stop typical hatred.

War = Answer to population problem

Population problem = Reason for war

Oh god.

OBAMA SINGS KICK ASS SONG?!?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yghFBt-fXmw#ws)

Quote from: Bl★ck Star on 21-08-2010
Who cares if Obama is a Muslim or not ?

Hes a good President.

:O

Quote from: HostelEffect on 21-08-2010If we learn how to forgive or at the very least "ignore", you can at least stop typical hatred.

Uuuggghhhhhh

The same fucking cycle applies with racism (i'm part black).

My parent's don't hate all white people, but they hate white people for what they did and will say shit like "Fucking honkies, they're all evil assholes" and shit.

I know it's terrible what they did to the africans for I've learned of it, and I know it'de be hard for their generation (what with living with said racism, i can understand that they have a grudge but god damned, keeping it going on to the next generation doesn't help alliviate it) to just learn to forgive or atleast stiffle it, but continuing to hate back only causes the cycle to continue.

On that same point, Why is it that people can say "It's because I'm black" and then have a huge fucking, super infalted political ordeal, making their sentences less so then they'de be for anyone else?

Don't they see that, PREJUDICE is what caused the cycle in the first place? How does being prejudice against prejudice doesn't do anything?

I love it when my mom says "Two wrong's don't make a right" and then goes around and tells me not to trust my white friends (which are most of my friends becasue all of the black kids i've grown up with/know are fucking jiggerwiggerniggers, roundabouts and retarded [even if some of them have a kind heart]).

I guess this conflict on top of personal issues is what caused me to be so anti-label/anti-stereotype People should be judged as their person, not slapped with a label. Sure some one may like rock music and other rock-ish stuff but that doesn't mean that they have the same personality, OTHER interests and mindset/behaviorisms as the other million who do.

/derail /rant /thread

Indeed /thread, well spoken Lucidius.

Honestly if I was a moderator I would just lock the thread because of Lucidius' post.

Sure, I agree. /Thread

Until Obama actually comes out on public television, and says he is a Muslim, he will be christian like he's said he is.

Thread is over.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/is_obama_trying_to_indoctrinate_your_children_with.php?ref=fpb (http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/is_obama_trying_to_indoctrinate_your_children_with.php?ref=fpb)

I was just watching some news today. Someone asked him, on live television, why he was a Christian.

To sum it up, he said he was Christian by choice. His mother and father were always very spiritual people, but didn't take him to church on Sunday much. He said he chose Christianity because he believed the teachings of Jesus Christ and the virtues he lived by were something he wanted to live by as well.

Also Exile, talking points memo is pretty awful, the title is even trying to grab readers at a personal level by saying "YOUR children". Indoctrination is a pretty easy word to through around these days, it seems like saying something positive means you are indoctrinating them into your ideas or viewpoints, which might be true, but it can also be an attempt to have them tolerate your viewpoint.

Don't get me wrong though, there is some huge bullshit that goes on in the Middle East still, whether it stems from the religion or the type of government or religious government they have is debatable.

Perhaps more productive threads would be a better use of your time..

Locked and Random gets a day forum ban for necroposting almost exclusively.