Anonymity on the internet

Started by Smirnoff, 08-08-2011

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Maxi96203

#25
Anonymity on the internet is good, to a degree.


But if you support child porn, animated, drawn, or real, I don't see how you could have any self respect for yourself if you're attracted to 9-12 year olds. But that's just my opinion. As for sticking to your opinions, if you wouldn't say it in real life, don't say it on the fucking internet. It's really stupid to back down from it in real life.


Legalizing things will lead it to doing something worse, because lets be honest, if we legalized marijuana it wouldn't be so popular because it's legal. All of the "cool kids" would be doing the next illegal thing.


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Nobody protects fictional child porn because child porn is generally morally wrong, you know you'd be shunned anywhere, thus you don't protect it in REAL LIFE. And yes, 51 pictures is a lot of fucking child porn. 


You've basically said " I support child porn as long as it's not real. "
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Smirnoff

Sorry to say this, but I deceived you.
It was an experiment from my side to see whether or not I instantly would be flagged as a person with zero morale, or as the above said, with zero self respect if I would appear to be "protecting" it.
And the results, well its pretty much as I expected to be honest, someone tried to talk with me reasonably and with good arguments, which is a good thing, while most of the others had this very aggressive and obvious why-are-people-like-you-even-allowed-to-live tone to their posts.

I think the only way is to talk with these people, and insultibg them trying to make then feel bad about themselves is only making it worse.
Paint mentioned something interesting though.
"do what normal CP enthusiasts do and keep it to yourself"

So there is normal kind of CP enthusiast, as well as other non-normal ones?
What is your definition of a "normal" CP enthusiast?

PS: I didn't create this topic with the intention of making an experiment out of it, its something i decided on later, which also means that my opinion on the matter from my first post still stands.
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Kassendraw

Well normal has no set definition if we're going to get into terminology. In this case of the debate though I'd suspect normal would be classified as societies set universal "conduct" and "morals" that apply mostly entirely around the world.

Solving the case of the definition of normal in this debate, I believe that it is not feminism to use a example that was simply easy to compare and example with. Setting that aside, the real case is anonymity on the internet and not whether wanting to touch yourself to loli hentai is wrong or not. Anonymity on the internet works both ways, but in a sense it's a moral support. It's true most people act themselves online, as in difference in real life where they won't. The internet is the voice of the people, the true voice. I support anonymity on the internet because it has opened society to new ideas, interests, technologies, etc...

Can we really bash that all away just because of a few cases where somebody did something bad? Well, I'm sure that case could apply to anything else, I don't see a problem with this case either.

Tom

Bad thread, Its about anonimity not porn. But I guess you people like discussing your weird fetishes instead.

Unlocked, Just stop talking about fetishes.
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Cutch

#30
Sorry, this thread is stupider than the "World War III" thread. For two reasons, which have been pointed out 10000 times before but you all ignore them.
Quote from: Smirnoff on 26-08-2011
Sorry to say this, but I deceived you.
It was an experiment from my side to see whether or not I instantly would be flagged as a person with zero morale, or as the above said, with zero self respect if I would appear to be "protecting" it.
And the results, well its pretty much as I expected to be honest, someone tried to talk with me reasonably and with good arguments, which is a good thing, while most of the others had this very aggressive and obvious why-are-people-like-you-even-allowed-to-live tone to their posts.

I think the only way is to talk with these people, and insultibg them trying to make then feel bad about themselves is only making it worse.
Paint mentioned something interesting though.
"do what normal CP enthusiasts do and keep it to yourself"

So there is normal kind of CP enthusiast, as well as other non-normal ones?
What is your definition of a "normal" CP enthusiast?

PS: I didn't create this topic with the intention of making an experiment out of it, its something i decided on later, which also means that my opinion on the matter from my first post still stands.
Nobody could honestly care that much whether you watch child porn, even if you did. The fact you made it an experiment just makes you a fucking twat.
Quote from: Kassendraw on 26-08-2011
Well normal has no set definition if we're going to get into terminology. In this case of the debate though I'd suspect normal would be classified as societies set universal "conduct" and "morals" that apply mostly entirely around the world.

Solving the case of the definition of normal in this debate, I believe that it is not feminism to use a example that was simply easy to compare and example with. Setting that aside, the real case is anonymity on the internet and not whether wanting to touch yourself to loli hentai is wrong or not. Anonymity on the internet works both ways, but in a sense it's a moral support. It's true most people act themselves online, as in difference in real life where they won't. The internet is the voice of the people, the true voice. I support anonymity on the internet because it has opened society to new ideas, interests, technologies, etc...

Can we really bash that all away just because of a few cases where somebody did something bad? Well, I'm sure that case could apply to anything else, I don't see a problem with this case either.

1) Holy shit, there is a set definition for normal. "conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural." In short, it means "average". The norm in society(at least in the US) is that it is immoral to have a sexual relation with a child.
2) The internet is not a "moral support". Morals are principles that guide you as to what is right and wrong. The internet, by giving people a sense of anonymity, does not reprimand people for being immoral as it does in normal society. This encourages people, especially impressionable youth, to be douchebags to other people. Often times this behavior bleeds over to how they act in real life. Believe it or not, nice people are not born nice and are permanently nice. I was an extremely nice kid when I first started to play online video games, and now I'm often perceived as an asshole. This might be because of the dicks who use the fact they are "anonymous" to except them from the social expectations applied to normal human beings, making me extremely critical.

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Kassendraw

Quote from: Cutch on 27-08-2011
1) Holy shit, there is a set definition for normal. "conforming to the standard or the common type; usual; not abnormal; regular; natural." In short, it means "average". The norm in society(at least in the US) is that it is immoral to have a sexual relation with a child.
2) The internet is not a "moral support". Morals are principles that guide you as to what is right and wrong. The internet, by giving people a sense of anonymity, does not reprimand people for being immoral as it does in normal society. This encourages people, especially impressionable youth, to be douchebags to other people. Often times this behavior bleeds over to how they act in real life. Believe it or not, nice people are not born nice and are permanently nice. I was an extremely nice kid when I first started to play online video games, and now I'm often perceived as an asshole. This might be because of the dicks who use the fact they are "anonymous" to except them from the social expectations applied to normal human beings, making me extremely critical.

1) I later added in that that was the set definition of normal in this debate. If you have ever been on debate team in a school or working area (Not saying you have to, just saying I am) you would know the the definition of normal is terribly generalist and usually calls for a setting of a more precise knowledge of what normal is to be understood as inside the debate.

2) The internet is in fact a moral support, if you haven't noticed, not just in the videogame world in which most people are generalizing towards on this thread. The internet has thousands and thousands of sites dedicated to helping others, giving counseling, help, etc... to anomalous people on the internet who just can't ask or say these things in real life for X or Y reason. It is a mutual agreement that anonymity on the internet is also a haven for people who do not care or understand the concept that there is another person on the other side of the screen, however, aren't those the people who usually leave quickly or/are banned from whatever community they were in?

Crispy

#32
What is this...I don't understand it, some sort of...porn discussion, of it's legality? I'm missing out on something...aren't I? Porn...is...'erm...alright, it's ok...to watch I guess you can say, it's your privacy. But...child pornagraphy, even...pic's...I'd rather stay out of that discussion.