Debate: Monolith's Heli and Factional Vehicles

[MattyK]

Equipment

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Vehicles

*(Helix) An Outfitted Mi-17 with Rappel Lines, Massless External Armoring, an Artifact Dampening System(Basic Bullet Protection) and a ESP Location Grid within 100 Metres.
(Unarmed, Considered to be a Mobile Command Vehicle)

(Yes, it's a fucking MCV, now deploy and build me that Power Plant!)
So tell me, should Monolith be allowed constant use of the best Heli in the Zone(Server)?
(In other words, based off Lefario's Concept, I made the most usable Chopper on the server. So as Creator, and leader of a Major Faction, shouldn't I be allowed too?)
It is unarmed, fairly Durable yet easy to take out with a missle, and used as their mobile command fortress.
And yes, I usually build a raidable Depot with it. And do Indepth Roleplays in Repairing it.

Apparently Military are the only ones allowed to use Vehicles, let alone Helis.
And this version is Private, as only I should be allowed to "call" for it.

Why? You say? Why have I been using a large Transport Heli for my Base? Because currently, we are the most farmed faction ingame, and only being propkilled by physminges and watching them get banned for it gives me a level of satisfaction in this "buildwar". (And the few instances of epicness.)

Also, should Freedom and Duty be allowed "Factional" vehicles? (APC/Jeep for DUTY, Jeep/Truck for Freedom. No Tank, except maybe in RP Repair/Disable scenarios)
As it is inside the Canon. (Ofcourse with Moderation, like only one vehicle allowed, and if using an epic doomfort, no vehicles at all. Plus they should not be invincible, and should have instances where you have to repair em. Destructable wheels etc.)
And maybe give "dedicated" Loner Clans a small unique vehicle, like Gembock's Ashite buissness.


I am constantly refining the post. So keep an eye on it hourly.
And if you'll excuse my bitching a moment, skip the lines below and go to the first post.

Only Military are allowed vehicles, only Military are allowed mortars, only military are allowed turrets, only military are allowed blahblahblah-*BOOM*
Sorry, kinda pissed due to the fact Military are currently a line of Abusing, Powergaming, Faggots, who are cut into their own "sub-factions" who like to wage war on everybody they deem fit. And only kissing Judas's ass and then bitching about it gets them off your back for 10 mins.
Seriously Judas, control your fucking Goons before I PK you.

[Dom]

I do think all factions should have atleast one special vehicle..

[Deathcon]

Yes Monolith is the most attacked faction them having a mobile Command Base that has a supply depot that can be raided is Great RP and I think they should be allowed AT LEAST that. Also I think Duty Should be allowed an APC and a Jeep while Freedom get a Truck and a Jeep. This would keep the balance of power pretty even when it comes to vehicles. The two Most powerful factions control the air while the 2 most hostile(to each other) can keep as mobile as the other.

Military and Monolith are notorious for having anomaly's and mines guarding there "Doom Fortresses." With the ground vehicles I just mentioned they would be able to survive the mines or anomaly's.

[sniperhunter]

Also I think Duty Should be allowed an APC and a Jeep while Freedom get a Truck and a Jeep. This would keep the balance of power pretty even when it comes to vehicles. The two Most powerful factions control the air while the 2 most hostile(to each other) can keep as mobile as the other.

That sounds like a great idea.

[Wiggles]

The usage of vehicles really should be restricted to very Epic Rp's basically. If there is only two mono's or millitary on and they are cruising around in a chopper, its a bit sus. I just think that vehicles should only be brought out in very special circumstances and not be used in the everyday events of the factions.

[Locke]

BRING OUT THE FREEDOM WEED PARTY JEEP!

FUCK YEAH!

[Silver Knight]

Monolith shouldn't use helicoptors...

[Cobra]

Having helicopters for monolith is not even reasonable if plausible one bit. My point is the Ukraine military would blow your ass out of the air the moment they see you on radar as a unidentified aircraft then scramble jet fights and blow your ass up. Like it or not that is how it would go. Air vehicles should really be Military only and used in moderation. Other factions such as Monolith, Freedom, Duty. Should stay with ground vehicles. Period.

[Bagelz]

This makes absolutely NO sense. In real life or in the Stalker games, if the factions had the money for them, they could easily have them imported. The Chernobyl Checkpoint full of Military in real life have vehicles taken out and delivered there all the time. What is to stop the other factions from doing the same. The same goes for barkeeps. They have a fucking BANK full of Roubles. They themselves could import vehicles, but they don't. All I'm saying is you shouldn't be able to tell factions that they can't have vehicles simply because they are that faction. I mean Monolith are totally fucking insane, how can they possibly pilot a helicopter?

[MediaBot]

Monolith are super mutants, not super hitec combine military faggots...

[Nines]

I say the factions have to make deals with traders, do get imported vehicles, but it costs a shitload.

[Carnage]

Military arent allowed Mortars or Turrets :/ GG

[Nines]

My recommendation:

DUTY: APC and a jeep
Freedom: Truck and a jeep (cool idea btw)
Monolith: Recon vehicle, jeep
Military: APC, APC, helicopter, jeep, jeep, jeep
Bandit Factions: Steal a vehicle, duh.

If you want more vehicles, heli's, ask a trader, they might be able to import one for you, but only for a damn goldmine of money.

[MattyK]

Having helicopters for monolith is not even reasonable if plausible one bit. My point is the Ukraine military would blow your ass out of the air the moment they see you on radar as a unidentified aircraft then scramble jet fights and blow your ass up. Like it or not that is how it would go. Air vehicles should really be Military only and used in moderation. Other factions such as Monolith, Freedom, Duty. Should stay with ground vehicles. Period.

And then comes in the entire "I'M WITH JUDAS! BIATCH." Rant.
I have to admit Mil-Mono Heli RP is epic, and almost non-abusable. Except in the case of Physminging, where in most cases; Ban.

"How does a group of Zealots pilot a choppa?"

C-Consciousness reporgramming.

[Dom]

My recommendation:

DUTY: APC and a jeep
Freedom: Truck and a jeep (cool idea btw)
Monolith: Recon vehicle, jeep
Military: APC, APC, helicopter, jeep, jeep, jeep
Bandit Factions: Steal a vehicle, duh.

If you want more vehicles, heli's, ask a trader, they might be able to import one for you, but only for a damn goldmine of money.

What about Ecos! We need some sort of Anti-Rad jeepy thing..

[Bagelz]

I'd suggest Ecologist use special rovers are such that are extremely manageable and maneuverable. Small, but lightweight and can do all the jobs they require. A rover that can protect against radiation, anomalies, and also light-weight bullet proofing.

[SnakeTheFox]

I personally think Ecos should get an unmanned vehicle, something like the IED Disposal Vehicles they have in Iraq right now, but for exploring extremely anomalous areas where no human could go.

[Dom]

I personally think Ecos should get an unmanned vehicle, something like the IED Disposal Vehicles they have in Iraq right now, but for exploring extremely anomalous areas where no human could go.

Good idea, i'll construct it next time im on the server.

[Judas]

Personal thoughts: I can see no reason why any faction could not procure a land vehicle to use. I personaly think that Mono,duty, and freedom should get a limited amount of vehicles such as trucks and jeeps, and be able ot purchase more effective vehices suchas APCs and shit from EXPIRIANCED TRADERs. However, i am personally of the opinion that any air based vehicle would be promptly blown from the sky by urainian military, as almost every country in the world would blow another countries attack shopper out of the air if it was on teir turf, and it goes double in this situation as we are talking about the extremly volatile and valuable zone.

I dislike when people in military spawn choppers for there personal fun. Hence my limitations as to who can use one, and when they can use it. If you see osmeone in the military abusing that priveledge, make a post in my forums complete with evidence.

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PS. Matty, i do not appriaciate the fact that you are flaming me for my Charecters behavior "Only kissing Judas's ass... " This is a realistic representaion of the way a corrupt military official would act. If you have a problem with my charecter talk to me about it and we can create a more agreeable roleplay atmosphere, or avoid eachother in game. I dislike people making pointless flames that detract from te purpose of a thread. And military does not use mortars and turrets. Mortars were disconiued because they were really ineffective, and turrets are barred by server rules. Please research my actionsmore fully before making pointles flames, as the only thing more worthless than a flame is a incorrect flame.

[Judas]

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