Capital Punishment

[Silver Knight]

What are your thoughts on capital punishment? I myself believe the death penalty is appropriate for murders and should be more severe than it is now. Too many are going with lethal injection rather than the electric chair. Shame we don't get it in the uk, our prisons are full...

[Deathcon]

I am glad my State(Florida) Has had Capital Punishment for awhile. Unfortunately lethal injection just doesn't get the point across like the electric chair.

[sniperhunter]

As long as a murderers are getting captital punishment I would care less.

[Silver Knight]

Yeah, it shows capital punishment works, if only we had it in the uk.

[Krieg]

I am glad my State(Florida) Has had Capital Punishment for awhile. Unfortunately lethal injection just doesn't get the point across like the electric chair.

The electric chair was a "modern" way of execution a long time ago, now this injection is the new execution way. Think of it as fashion.

[Cobra]

The state of Nevada still uses the Gas Chamber I believe..

[Alex]

The state of Nevada still uses the Gas Chamber I believe..

http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/gascham.html

I was bored so I googled and Nevada doesn't use the chamber anymore.

[Korazone]

I believe execution should only be used in certain instances, and only if a well developed system is in place to determine whether the candidate is deserving of it.

In the ideal situation, such a sentencing should only be delivered by the judiciary in specific cases where the candidate exhibits extreme anti-social traits as determined by a new independent institution: a judicial advisory committee staffed with a medical professionals such as neurologists, psychiatrists and, hopefully someday when the fields merge, neuropsychiatrists.

Using several methods, both medical and non, the committee would look to gauge two things before submitting their medical determination: the subjects' capacity for meaningful change (if they can be rehabilitated) and the subject's capacity for anxiety (whether they can even be deterred from recidivism.)

If the subject fails the first one, showing no capacity for rehabilitation, but not the second it would be up to the judges discretion what to make of this medical determination. But if the subjects fails to meet either criteria, then the judiciary wouldn't have much lee way in regard to sentencing. Upon the submission of the medical determination to the court the judge would be bound by law to sentence the guilty party to the statutory sentence: execution.

And something I want to emphasise about this new system before I go on: this independent medical committee is just that, it's independent. Independent of the judiciary, other than advising them. Independent of the bureaucracy (police, prosecution, other civil services). Independent of the legislature, other than its advisory role being enabled through legislation. And most important of all, independent of the executive; "the man", "the governments", the Department of corrections/Department of Justice/whatever. This is the group that always turns people off the idea of capital punishment. They're afraid it'll just become another tool in the government's arsenal for stamping out dissent. But in this ideal system, this medical advisory committee would have absolutely nothing to do with the executive. Political pressure wouldn't be a problem.

Anyway so back to the procedures of this new system. Firstly the methods of the committee:
They'd be two fold; non-medical first and then medical. The non-medical examination would be at the heart of the determination. Psychiatric histories, criminal records, etc. would be used to determine the subjects propensity for recidivism (repeat offending) and whether punishment, such as jailtime, has in anyway altered their behaviour (rehabilitated them). If not diagnostic tools like the MMPI and Robert O'Hares Psychopathy Checklist would be employed to determine the anxiety capacity of the candidates temperament. If the candidate is found to be lacking in said capacity they almost certainly would not be able to be deterred without great cost to the state. Medical examination through PET or fMRI scans would follow to determine brain function and if any hope lies in the medical realm for treatment of their personality defects.

The medical committee would then advise the judge with their medical determination.

If the subject was found to be able to be both rehabilitated and deterred he would be given a lenient jail sentence. Precise length would be up to judicial discretion.

If found to be unable to be rehabilitated but able to be deterred, a medium to full length jail sentence would be delivered as well as a system of checks and balances put in place upon release to minimise the chance of repeat offending by deterring the committal of a crime.

If the subject was found to be both unfit for rehabilitation or deterrence then the judge would be bound to deliver the statutory sentencing of execution.

The End.


I feel it's both a feasible and necessary system for the future in the west. And It would only require just a bit of legislation. While it would need probably independent civilian oversight or something I still think it's a better idea than cramming more and more people into jails until they're so overcrowded criminals inevitably leak out onto the streets and reoffend. This system really is a necessity, especially now in a world of depleting resources, both monetary and physical, and the ever rising requisite standard of living for prisoners due to, among other things, rampant idealism on the EU's part (Every prisoner has a right to en-suite bathing facilities, LCD TVs and sky plus subscriptions!).

So let me know what you think of it. Some constructive criticism please so I can iron out the kinks.

[Impure Reality]

In my own beliefs I think if you killed someone with a intent then you should face a firing squad.   :2guns:   :Dying-Soldier:

But that's in my own opinion.

[Silver Knight]

An eye for a eye system eh Impure?

[Impure Reality]

Correct.

[Zakhar]

I think they should invent a new way of killing them like a..chamber and instead of gas it rains fire on them or a chamber and the walls close on them and crush them..no wait that last one is to bloody.

[Silver Knight]

How about a incinerator for the killers and rapists, that way, it prepares them for hell.

[kirillarmas]

I think a guilty person should only be admitted to the death sentence when the evidence against him is upon a reasonable doubt.

[Soviet Union]

In mother Russia, if you go bad, we line you up, put bullet in your head, thats how we do it.

[Alek Kenenday]

In mother Russia, if you go bad, we line you up, put bullet in your head, thats how we do it.

Amen to that Although it does waste bullets.... :sleeping:

[Cobra]

In mother Russia, if you go bad, we line you up, put bullet in your head, thats how we do it.

Amen to that Although it does waste bullets.... :sleeping:

Oh no no no! Unlike Poison and electricity there are plenty of bullets to go around :D.

[Laferio]

Fuck I wish we had nothing but capitall punishment in the U.S. You don't see other countries talking shit to Russia

[HockeyMaster195]

I disagree with Capital Punishment because I see it as the easy way out. People that DESERVE capital punishment deserve to sit in a cell for the rest of their lives. If they're desperate enough they'll find a way to put themselves out of their misery.

My ideas present a problem, however. There's no room for more people in our prisons. What shall we do about this problem?

Legalize marijuana. It'll fix a host of problems, including the overcrowded prison system. This leaves room for people who deserve to be there.

[Silver Knight]

I disagree with Capital Punishment because I see it as the easy way out. People that DESERVE capital punishment deserve to sit in a cell for the rest of their lives. If they're desperate enough they'll find a way to put themselves out of their misery.

My ideas present a problem, however. There's no room for more people in our prisons. What shall we do about this problem?

Legalize marijuana. It'll fix a host of problems, including the overcrowded prison system. This leaves room for people who deserve to be there.

So say a raging mad pedofile, who raped aload of kids, killed them, and there parents, and ground em up into bits, and fed it to customers at a local mac donalds, you would honnestly let this person life, in a cell? I sure as hell wouldn't if you think your prisons are crowded, ours in britian are so full its stupid... Thats all becuase they know the worst they will get is locked up.. free food.. free bed... they don't care.. A prison to most is just a hotel on a rainy day, where you cannot go outside... Your lucky you have the capital punishment system... i really wish we had it here.

[HockeyMaster195]

Yes. I would let them live. In a small cell. And never see anyone's face ever again. Only the hands of people that stick their food through a slot in the door. I would push the very limits of the constitution. Or tell everyone they are one place and then take to some random military base around the world where they can have a metal bed to sleep on and a styrofoam tray of measly food with a maximum of 1500 calories a day.

[Blake.H]

What are your thoughts on capital punishment? I myself believe the death penalty is appropriate for murders and should be more severe than it is now. Too many are going with lethal injection rather than the electric chair. Shame we don't get it in the uk, our prisons are full...

I totaly agree with you silver, our prisons are full, our fuck-job murderers are being let out of prison eirly for what? GOOD BEHAVIOR!?! If they were well 'Behaved' they wouldn't have been in prison in the first place.