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Server Population, mind of a newbie

Started by LimitedIllusion, 26-10-2012

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26-10-2012 Last Edit: 26-10-2012 by LimitedIllusion
I'm very new and even have yet to get into the game but I've read things on the forum , shoutbox and a few others that the population is really low. I've seen people looking to scout people and others asking how they might improve the population.

I'm curious if they have realized but its taken me the last 4-5days to get accepted alone(still no one on to give me a password of course). Then it hit me, I've thought of giving up during my application even just because of the long wait and rather unresponsive admins/mods, how many others just gave up? Or saw the length of a application they demand?

My course of action  to rectify the issue would be to first get more then 1 admin that I've seen at all doing things on the terraria forum section. I think its ridiculous their is only really one doing the work that actually is a major issue. My other solution would be to accept different types of applications, with a variety of choices people might actually do one! Some examples would be writing a character bio instead of those silly RP questions(which actually force you to godmod the other characters resulting in storytelling NOT RP!!). Or giving you choices in questions or less questions and more detailed answers expected, or even more questions but less detailed answers expected.
The fact you can check previous applications is a both good and bad, good because they can see examples of expectations, but also horribly bad in that older applications asked you to do less and still get accepted with only 15 words or so while currently they expect a page full (all in relation to RP questions of course, the rest of the application is rather redundant).

If anyone else would like to add anything I would be quite happy as I think this rather long, boring, frustrating application that is indeed needed but not done correctly.

p.s If I'm horribly wrong on the server population, then that's just my 2 cents.

About the 'long' applications.
Well it is a roleplaying server right? You will write ALOT in it, so I don't see what is the problem with that.
Besides, long application atleast scares off griefers (most of them) and people which actually would like to roleplay will give it a chance.


The 'long' application as Knife has already stated is to get rid of griefers and trolls, as they won't spend time on applications just to get banned shortly after unless they are really sad trolls who have nothing better to do. Admins have lives you know and can't go through all these long apps all the time as it's boring and time consuming, but I do agree that more than one person should be looking at the applications to help speed it up. I'll speak to James to see if he wants me to try and help him with the applications.



SRP: Nicolai 'Thunder' Lagunov - Loner - Alive

The server population, from what i've seen, is around 3 at a good time, maybe up to 5?
If you need help, I am there for you.

27-10-2012 #4 Last Edit: 02-11-2012 by James Almasy
Abby Stone is Wet

Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 27-10-2012
im a good roleplayer.
Debatable



SRP: Nicolai 'Thunder' Lagunov - Loner - Alive

27-10-2012 #6 Last Edit: 02-11-2012 by James Almasy
Abby Stone is Wet

Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 27-10-2012
I was a whorechemist, i sold potions and my body. When they had sex with me, I rped every single movement. Blowjobs, shouts, orgasms... that's why I got banned.


please leave
I am not what I think I am, and I am not what you think I am. I am what I think you think I am.

Quote from: darkshinyprincess2 on 27-10-2012
I was a whorechemist, i sold potions and my body. When they had sex with me, I rped every single movement. Blowjobs, shouts, orgasms... that's why I got banned.
That's not classed as roleplay on our server. Roleplay is stuff like eating, sleeping, roleplaying what you're doing etc not...how you're having sex



SRP: Nicolai 'Thunder' Lagunov - Loner - Alive

27-10-2012 #9 Last Edit: 02-11-2012 by James Almasy
Abby Stone is Wet

27-10-2012 #10 Last Edit: 27-10-2012 by LimitedIllusion
Back on topic...

I didn't just mention the length if you read it all. Something like giving people options like being able to writing your server characters bio would be much more productive then questions that make little sense RP wise when you have to godmod them. The key  point was options not length.

My other point now is THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER GUIDELINES ON THE QUESTIONS. Most of my wait time was because, one was too short(5 sentences is not enough etc), two HAS TO BE WRITTEN LIKE YOUR SERVER CHARACTER CHOICE(I had to rewrite mine because I did my rp questions from the view of a wandering idiot, not the docter that I labeled as my server character, also there is no mention of this ANYWHERE in the first post), Third is spelling/grammar something that might come as obvious to some but is not listed as a rule/guideline to it.

The fact I had to rewrite mine 4 times to conform to an UNwritten rule list and wait a day in between each response from an admin(as there is only 1) is what is setting this back a lot as well.

So I guess something that needs to happen is a better list of rules for the application.

QuoteTake These Applications Seriously - We will not accept applications which are Shit\Short\Empty
Keep an eye on your application.  Once it is processed, a note explaining whether you were approved or denied will be added to the end of your post.

If you are approved, PM an active mod to be given the password. 

If you are denied pending changes that need to be made to your application, these changes must be made and you must PM the mod that originally processed your application to have it re-evaluated.  If the changes are sufficient, the mod should PM you the password to the server.  If they are not, you will be denied again for good.

If you purposefully post your application in a new thread outside of this application thread, you will not be approved at all. Also, do not butcher the application by adding unnecessary colors/glow/fonts.

FOLLOW THE FORMAT.

This is the current rule list, there is a slight mention of "short" mashed between shit and empty, making you assume they mean something like a 2 word answer. If they could list a set of rules in a better bullet format I think it might help. I took mine seriously and have spent a great deal of time checking several times a day for an online mod just to attempt to get answers, not to mention rewriting.

I think by now they should be able to guess I'm not trying to get on to grief/troll, after starting a topic, sending in excess of 8 PM's to mods, pretty much doing the application 3 times or more. But guess what, I have still yet to been able to get on to a small Terraria server of 3-5people.

Yet again if I could get some feedback as to why I might be wrong while I wait some more, please do so.

P.S. KEEP ON TOPIC PLEASE </3




28-10-2012 #11 Last Edit: 28-10-2012 by max0596
Man, I love it when newbies input to the big things going on in Caphori.
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You thought I was going to say "but..." right? Well yeah, I am.
But they really should...you know...be a bit more...direct? It seems like there's a lot of beating around the bush going on.

So here you go, in jot notes, what's wrong with Caphori right now.

-Long Apps
-Not enough Forum Mods/Admins
-App is structured and "one size fits all", Applicants should have a choice for some options
-Rules aren't all shown

Okay, so my feedback;

-Long Apps(or expectations of you making one)
This seems to be a new problem to me. The apps when I joined were quick, concise, but required actual thought and skill to complete WELL. And that's how we weeded out griefers. There were, however, griefers. Many, many times. But now, we don't have griefers(Not any I've heard of, anyway), but then again, we don't have much of anyone.

-Not enough Forum Admins/Mods
I've been talking to others on the server about this. We defiantly need a few more mods and admins.

-App is structured and "one size fits all", Applicants should have a choice for some options.
I think this is a great idea, personally. If I had the choice to do a character bio when I first joined, I would have jumped on that bandwagon. People have different way of showing that they're competent RPers, and we should have an application that reflects that.

-Rules aren't all shown
Well this is BS. I think they're all shown. They might not be as clear and to-the-point as they should, and they might be obscure as ****, but they're there. Like your point of saying "short" is a two-word answer. I'm sorry, but if I got an app that, for the RP part, said "Fuck. No." I wouldn't accept it. But on the other hand, if I got five sentences, I wouldn't think of it as much either. Also, spelling and grammar is clearly listed, as "Shit". Because an app would be shit without it.

And wait, you did the application 3 times or more?
Wait a second...

"If you are denied pending changes that need to be made to your application, these changes must be made and you must PM the mod that originally processed your application to have it re-evaluated.  If the changes are sufficient, the mod should PM you the password to the server.  If they are not, you will be denied again for good."

"If they are not, you will be denied again for good."

Well if you did do it three times over, I know the reason you're not getting any responses.

So, to summarize,
Points: Moot
OP: " denied again for good." if what he says is true
Problems: Still need fixing
Griefers: Non-existent
Abby Stone: A huge whore and a slut to boot. Also, banned. Also, permanently.

I think we all learned something today;
Abby sucks.
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Spoiler'd for big ass text wall.

28-10-2012 #12 Last Edit: 02-11-2012 by James Almasy
Abby Stone is Wet

Honestly though, number 1 thing that should be done is at least put rules if your going to be so picky with apps, simple and should eliminate so much hair pulling on the admins side of us sending them PM after PM.

Thats still just how I feel about it.

The part about being denied I remember seeing, I figured I'd give it a shot though and they didn't seem to care about that rule. Although my issue was too short then "not in  x character" Show me that rule that you say is shown or at least hinted too. (because I did the questions  not from my character I was making for terraria)

btw I did get accepted now anyway.(no one was accepting my group approval I guess was the issue)

Maybe I'm just trying to solve problems that don't need fixing, but its not like I was able to play ha ha.

Alright, i'm going to make this very clear.

You can either enjoy this server, or leave.
Your choice.

Locking thread.


I'm just waiting to mess up your day. Honest.